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2018-08-10 03:54:56 PM  
This is not a repeat from 1993.
 
2018-08-10 04:09:32 PM  
She has been transitioning into a corpse for about a decade now.
 
2018-08-10 04:09:57 PM  
Coming from someone who indulged in the creation of disposable, catchy music in the prime era of disposable pop culture?

Someone is looking to sweep the irony awards.
 
2018-08-10 04:13:46 PM  
She's being generous calling it music.
 
2018-08-10 04:14:23 PM  
She may be old, but she's not wrong.
 
2018-08-10 04:14:27 PM  
I don't know what she is talking about. I mostly listen to classic rock or classic country, but my wife forces me to listen to her "pop" station when she drives. The one saving grace is that the songs are varied. There seems to be a lot of different influences going on. There is the kind of 70's Vegas show song style (best description I can come up with) like "Exes and Ohs" or "Feel it still". Then there is a bunch of funk stuff like Bruno Mars. I am not saying all of it is good, but there seems to be a lot more variety now than there was in the recent past.
 
2018-08-10 04:16:38 PM  
Chalk me up as old too then but I think there is a reason why it all sounds the same and not because it isn't the music from my impression years.

You autotune or digitally smooth out voices so they all get a little bit closer to sounding the same.
A song will repeat 1 lyric 3-4 times to the same repeated beat. That seems to be the style.
Remix, Dance Remix, Dance MegaRemix, DJ So-and-So Dance MegaRemix with guest singer X.... will further digitally edit the voices and repeated background music to the repeated lyrics.

I'm not saying its bad or not music or that it doesn't take talent to create this music (because it does). If people like it great but it does lend to music in a genre sounding similar.
 
2018-08-10 04:17:33 PM  
What new music?
 
2018-08-10 04:17:56 PM  
WELCOME TO THE HERD

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2018-08-10 04:19:04 PM  
Granny don't preach.
 
2018-08-10 04:21:49 PM  

AlanMooresBeard: Chalk me up as old too then but I think there is a reason why it all sounds the same and not because it isn't the music from my impression years.

You autotune or digitally smooth out voices so they all get a little bit closer to sounding the same.
A song will repeat 1 lyric 3-4 times to the same repeated beat. That seems to be the style.
Remix, Dance Remix, Dance MegaRemix, DJ So-and-So Dance MegaRemix with guest singer X.... will further digitally edit the voices and repeated background music to the repeated lyrics.

I'm not saying its bad or not music or that it doesn't take talent to create this music (because it does). If people like it great but it does lend to music in a genre sounding similar.


Never heard a song with the same lines?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hgz-​q​76KtQ
 
2018-08-10 04:24:00 PM  
But seriously
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2018-08-10 04:26:50 PM  
It's not (just) the songs that sound awful; it's the production.

To my ears, modern pop music production sucks.

Personally, I blame Cher.

Or at least the producers of her song "Believe."
 
2018-08-10 04:31:10 PM  
Not old until you start hearing the songs in Walmart.
 
2018-08-10 04:31:48 PM  
First of all, she's objectively wrong. There are loads of great artists turning out some fantastic music. If she's talking about top 40 radio hits, then whatever. Pop hasn't changed that drastically since she was churning out forgettable singles. Maybe a bit more production, but pop music has always followed a pretty basic formula and her shiat was no different.
 
2018-08-10 04:35:37 PM  
1. MDNA
2. ???
3. MStuffGA
 
2018-08-10 04:35:57 PM  

Pandora's Litterbox: It's not (just) the songs that sound awful; it's the production.

To my ears, modern pop music production sucks.

Personally, I blame Cher.

Or at least the producers of her song "Believe."


"Believe" wasn't good, but it wasn't the worst thing ever. The worst was "Die Another Day", by whichever pop washout crapped that autotuned abomination out.
 
2018-08-10 04:36:42 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: Pop hasn't changed that drastically since she was churning out forgettable singles. Maybe a bit more production, but pop music has always followed a pretty basic formula and her shiat was no different


Pop music has always sucked. That's its function. That's why unlike rock, people stop and pretend to never have listened to the pop music they listened to when they were younger.
 
2018-08-10 04:37:09 PM  
If she thinks all music sounds the same, it probably means she hasn't been listening to very much music.

She should go back to what she does best: Patrol the gay underground, find out what's trendy, and then sell a superficial pop version of it to the mainstream. That's been her MO for 30 years.
 
2018-08-10 04:38:11 PM  

Mugato: Pop music has always sucked. That's its function. That's why unlike rock, people stop and pretend to never have listened to the pop music they listened to when they were younger.


Rock IS pop.
 
2018-08-10 04:39:32 PM  

EdgeRunner: "Believe" wasn't good, but it wasn't the worst thing ever. The worst was "Die Another Day", by whichever pop washout crapped that autotuned abomination out.


"Believe" used to make me physically ill when they used to play it at work but "Die Another Day" was worse because it was in front of a Bond movie.
 
2018-08-10 04:42:21 PM  
You could say she has been for a while...
 
2018-08-10 04:46:17 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: First of all, she's objectively wrong. There are loads of great artists turning out some fantastic music. If she's talking about top 40 radio hits, then whatever. Pop hasn't changed that drastically since she was churning out forgettable singles. Maybe a bit more production, but pop music has always followed a pretty basic formula and her shiat was no different.


Oh but for the halcyon days of Debbie Gibson and Phil Collins.
 
2018-08-10 04:46:27 PM  

Pandora's Litterbox: It's not (just) the songs that sound awful; it's the production.

To my ears, modern pop music production sucks.

Personally, I blame Cher.

Or at least the producers of her song "Believe."


[*Adjusts onion belt*]

Back in my day, people actually cared about production quality because they played music on audio equipment that actually produced quality sound. Whether the source material was a CD, a tape, or vinyl, if played at home it was played on a dedicated audio system with with an amplifier of some kind and large speakers; if played in a car, it was played on a car audio system with a dedicated amplifier and specialized car audio speakers; even if played on a "mobile device" it was played using the original, uncompressed digital or analog source material (i.e., CD or tape) with a player (i.e., "Walkman" or "Discman") and decent-quality headphones.

But nowadays, people play a highly-compressed digital audio file downloaded over some streaming content service, with the sound coming through the 0.05 watt "amplifier" and itty-bitty speaker on their iPhone (or, at best, through their crappy earbuds) and the audio quality is complete shiat in comparison to a full-range, dedicated audio system. So for most listeners, the appreciable difference in sound between shiatty production values and high-quality production values is minimal at best, and there's no incentive to invest time or effort in better production values.
 
2018-08-10 04:50:15 PM  
Cyberluddite: Pandora's Litterbox: It's not (just) the songs that sound awful; it's the production.

To my ears, modern pop music production sucks.

Personally, I blame Cher.

Or at least the producers of her song "Believe."

[*Adjusts onion belt*]

Back in my day, people actually cared about production quality because they played music on audio equipment that actually produced quality sound. Whether the source material was a CD, a tape, or vinyl, if played at home it was played on a dedicated audio system with with an amplifier of some kind and large speakers; if played in a car, it was played on a car audio system with a dedicated amplifier and specialized car audio speakers; even if played on a "mobile device" it was played using the original, uncompressed digital or analog source material (i.e., CD or tape) with a player (i.e., "Walkman" or "Discman") and decent-quality headphones.

But nowadays, people play a highly-compressed digital audio file downloaded over some streaming content service, with the sound coming through the 0.05 watt "amplifier" and itty-bitty speaker on their iPhone (or, at best, through their crappy earbuds) and the audio quality is complete shiat in comparison to a full-range, dedicated audio system. So for most listeners, the appreciable difference in sound between shiatty production values and high-quality production values is minimal at best, and there's no incentive to invest time or effort in better production values.

______________________________________​___

Where do you get your onion belts? My regular supplier passed on and I'm in the market for a new one (of both.)
 
2018-08-10 04:52:00 PM  
EdgeRunner: "Believe" wasn't good, but it wasn't the worst thing ever.

________________________

however, it did get that particular ball rolling ('twas my point.)
 
2018-08-10 04:56:28 PM  
Crooning is worse than auto-tune
 
2018-08-10 04:59:04 PM  
And synthesizers too. They should be banned
 
2018-08-10 05:00:54 PM  
Mugato: Pop music has always sucked.

______________________________________​___

Do you ever tire of posting wholly incorrect sh*t here?
 
2018-08-10 05:05:04 PM  
Music is boring because it isn't really changing. Any pop song that came out 15 years ago wouldn't sound out of place if it came out today.  I can't even think of any new genres of music that have come out in the 21st century.  Maybe dubstep and mumble rap?  And those weren't all that popular.
 
2018-08-10 05:06:56 PM  

Pandora's Litterbox: Mugato: Pop music has always sucked.

______________________________________​___

Do you ever tire of posting wholly incorrect sh*t here?


Who the hell are you?

And learn to use the Quote button.
 
2018-08-10 05:07:11 PM  
Pop music of today must:
1) be minimal, as in 8-bit
2) sample existing tracks
3) include rap
4) have more than one people in it
5) swear swear swear

/get off my lawn
 
2018-08-10 05:17:38 PM  
I've always wondered - what actually is cool right now?  I was never cool myself, but I always understood that anything the media told you was the trend was actually at the receding side of the wave (sort of like slang that your parents have heard of).

I haven't seen anything actually edgy and new in my boring part of the world in decades - I wonder if the cool people are keeping it to themselves lest it become mainstream.
 
2018-08-10 05:17:49 PM  
I've attempted to stop listening to inane pop music many many times, but every time I try, the hook brings me back.
 
2018-08-10 05:19:00 PM  
"...everything's so formulaic, and every song has 20 guest artists on it, and everyone sounds the same."

Yes, she's turning 60 next week, but she's pretty much correct.

GameSprocket: I don't know what she is talking about. I mostly listen to classic rock or classic country, but my wife forces me to listen to her "pop" station when she drives. The one saving grace is that the songs are varied. There seems to be a lot of different influences going on. There is the kind of 70's Vegas show song style (best description I can come up with) like "Exes and Ohs" or "Feel it still". Then there is a bunch of funk stuff like Bruno Mars. I am not saying all of it is good, but there seems to be a lot more variety now than there was in the recent past.


I like Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga. Much of Mars' stuff is a throwback to old R&B and funk, which is why I like it. Just about everything else I've heard on the radio is auto-tuned crap.

My biggest pet peeve with most of today's singers: they can't sing the word "I." It ALWAYS comes out as "Ahh."

/also old
 
2018-08-10 05:19:46 PM  
Ishkur: She should go back to what she does best: Patrol the gay underground, find out what's trendy, and then sell a superficial pop version of it to the mainstream. That's been her MO for 30 years

^^^ This. Yes, she was pro-gay before it became cool (if it ever has) but she depended on gay producers and songwriters in her early days. Then she just hired people to write and produce the music she'd use for her insipid lyrics (see: Nile Rogers, William Orbit).

Fine, she was hands on with that process (wording?), but it also made me roll my eyes that she was portrayed as this great feminist breaking down barriers for women in the music business when she was no different from The Supremes and dozens of other manufactured pop groups created by men.
 
2018-08-10 05:22:32 PM  

SavageWombat: I've always wondered - what actually is cool right now?


Whining about striplings, their music and haircuts
 
2018-08-10 05:24:48 PM  
Well yeah, she debut album was in 1983.

She was playing in NYC bands in 1978.
 
2018-08-10 05:24:58 PM  

Henry Holland: Ishkur: She should go back to what she does best: Patrol the gay underground, find out what's trendy, and then sell a superficial pop version of it to the mainstream. That's been her MO for 30 years

^^^ This. Yes, she was pro-gay before it became cool (if it ever has) but she depended on gay producers and songwriters in her early days. Then she just hired people to write and produce the music she'd use for her insipid lyrics (see: Nile Rogers, William Orbit).

Fine, she was hands on with that process (wording?), but it also made me roll my eyes that she was portrayed as this great feminist breaking down barriers for women in the music business when she was no different from The Supremes and dozens of other manufactured pop groups created by men.


She ruined everything by don't doing anything. Thanks, Odonna
 
2018-08-10 05:25:30 PM  
2000+ years old it's, damn old
 
2018-08-10 05:31:25 PM  
If you think it all sounds the same you need to stop listening to the radio. We have this thing called the internet now with every genre you can imagine at your fingertips.
 
2018-08-10 05:32:38 PM  
Mugato: Who the hell are you?

And learn to use the Quote button.

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Me? I'm the one NOT writing stupid sh*t like "Pop music has always sucked" where people can comment on it.

And I'm posting as I'm allowed to post. You've a problem with it? Take it up with the higher-ups at Fark HQ.
 
2018-08-10 05:46:01 PM  
I know she's in the business, so it's different for her. However, invest in Amazon Music.  You'll never listen to other people's bad music. You'll just listen to your own bad music.
 
2018-08-10 05:46:12 PM  
Go watch your stories and STFU, grandma.
 
2018-08-10 05:50:26 PM  
We have a Fark HQ?
 
2018-08-10 05:50:39 PM  
Madonna doesn't have a good singing voice, but she got by on hooks, looks and MTV.
 
2018-08-10 05:54:41 PM  

Khellendros: Coming from someone who indulged in the creation of disposable, catchy music in the prime era of disposable pop culture?

Someone is looking to sweep the irony awards.


Let's be fair here. When her stuff first came out there was noting like it out there. She's what we call a pioneer.
 
2018-08-10 06:13:06 PM  
Like a GILF, touched for the very last time.

Like a G...I...I...I....ILF, let your pacemaker, next to mine.
 
2018-08-10 06:13:59 PM  

edmo: Khellendros: Coming from someone who indulged in the creation of disposable, catchy music in the prime era of disposable pop culture?

Someone is looking to sweep the irony awards.

Let's be fair here. When her stuff first came out there was noting like it out there. She's what we call a pioneer.


Pioneer of what?  Attention whoring?
 
2018-08-10 06:16:26 PM  
What's her Fark handle?
 
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