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(Modesto Bee)   Some employees at the California State Lottery like their jobs. Really, really like their jobs, as in head-in-woman's-blouse-at-bar liking   ( modbee.com) divider line
    More: Amusing, Gov. Jerry Brown, United States, Lottery, state lottery, Lottery employees, California, Pleading, Lottery sales representative  
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4 days ago  
"...was sent to Gov. Jerry Brown's office last week in an appeal from an anonymous employee..."

Snitches really piss me off.  Sounds like one employee was pissed that he/she wasn't invited to the bar after work with the rest of the gang, so they snitched.
 
4 days ago  

MattyBlast: "...was sent to Gov. Jerry Brown's office last week in an appeal from an anonymous employee..."

Snitches really piss me off.  Sounds like one employee was pissed that he/she wasn't invited to the bar after work with the rest of the gang, so they snitched.


Right? How does this matter in their professional lives in any way?
I'm hoping Jerry just responds with a big fat "WGAF?"
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  
Heavens to Betsy!  We can't allow people to have fun!  Besides, did you see the look of anguish and surprise on that woman's face?!?!?!
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  
So?
 
4 days ago  
Off-duty, private behavior with an adult woman who appears to be consenting? Oh no, what to do, what to do
 
4 days ago  
Did either of the active participants in the "head under blouse" situation complain?

No?

Then STFU and GBTW you jealous POS.
 
4 days ago  
A package of bawdy photos allegedly showing senior state Lottery leaders carrying on at a Southern California piano bar, with one image showing an official putting his head up a woman's shirt, was sent to Gov. Jerry Brown's office last week in an appeal from an anonymous employee urging the administration to investigate the department.


Why?

/wgaf?
 
4 days ago  
I bet they're fun at parties.
 
4 days ago  
Boo to you subby, and boo to to mod who greenlighted this farce.  This is just a single employee who's mad for some reason trying to get back at his/her coworkers.  This is not news.
 
4 days ago  

MattyBlast: "...was sent to Gov. Jerry Brown's office last week in an appeal from an anonymous employee..."

Snitches really piss me off.  Sounds like one employee was pissed that he/she wasn't invited to the bar after work with the rest of the gang, so they snitched.


Since they have a picture I'm guessing they were at the bar.

As I know all too well from my horrid years of having to investigate employees, all it takes is someone to be offended by something and BAM, it goes to HR and often Legal, regardless if it was outside of the office and especially regardless if the snitch was involved in "the incident."  Most companies have something in their policies that say "If you do something in public and get bad attention for it we can fire you" and the policy is deliberately vague.

I can also tell you that a lot of things go on that are 'common knowledge to everyone but management' and all it takes is one person pissing off another and BAM, off the HR and the unemployment line.  We had three guys who built their own front end to a company product and were selling our services themselves, utterly and completely ignoring a shiatload of privacy laws.  It was well known amongst the developers and others and all it took was one of them pissing off the "wrong" person.  I have to admit canning those three was about the only time I enjoyed watching people lose their jobs.
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  
Guess I'll just continue to not play the California lottery or any other lottery.
 
4 days ago  
Did the blouse consent?
 
4 days ago  
"Dear Governor Brown, please see to it that these employees curb their personal vices so that we can get back to the business of organized gambling."
 
4 days ago  
When asked for comment, Helen Lovejoy shrieked, "Won't somebody think of the children?"
 
4 days ago  
Did the whistleblower take the picture?
 
4 days ago  
The Lottery recently has recorded soaring revenue gains

IN THEIR PANTS!
 
4 days ago  

NateAsbestos: MattyBlast: "...was sent to Gov. Jerry Brown's office last week in an appeal from an anonymous employee..."

Snitches really piss me off.  Sounds like one employee was pissed that he/she wasn't invited to the bar after work with the rest of the gang, so they snitched.

Right? How does this matter in their professional lives in any way?
I'm hoping Jerry just responds with a big fat "WGAF?"


This. They were not at work who gives a fark if they were having fun in a bar?
 
4 days ago  
Dude was setting down. I'm guessing she pulled her blouse over his head.

If they weren't on the clock, and it wasn't an official function, and she didn't feel pressured or taken advantage of, I think this could still be a teachable moment, but I'm not certain it rises to abuse of power.
 
4 days ago  

Throbelisk: Boo to you subby, and boo to to mod who greenlighted this farce.  This is just a single employee who's mad for some reason trying to get back at his/her coworkers.  This is not news.


But it is modern-day fark
 
4 days ago  
Call the midwife.
 
4 days ago  
The three-page letter includes a number of instances in which the author contends senior Lottery leaders disparaged subordinates and used inappropriate language. The author argues that senior leaders are showing favoritism in their hiring and promotions, too.

Two longtime Lottery employees said they were familiar with the letter's allegations, although they were not at the piano bar. They said the anonymous complaints reflect low morale in the department.


No no, I'm sure it's just some pathetic loser who's upset they weren't invited to the party.
 
4 days ago  
The article also states that employee's are getting preferential treatment based on personal relationships as opposed to skill. On the other hand, this is the sales office and sales of lottery tickets are up so maybe that's bullshiat. On the third hand, if you're on a work trip, which this was, you have to act somewhat professional even after hours. On the fourth hand, sticking your head up some woman's shirt at a work function. Ewww.
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  
Oh what's the big goddamn deal? I have it on good authority that the gentleman in question is a licensed member of the FBI (Federal Breast Inspectors). At least that's what his t-shirt said.
 
4 days ago  
I hope the Gov says "who the fark cares"
 
4 days ago  
That poor victimized woman.  Who is sitting on that dude's lap.  Completely of her own accord.  And laughing.
 
4 days ago  
Here's the inappropriate part:
The three-page letter includes a number of instances in which the author contends senior Lottery leaders disparaged subordinates and used inappropriate language. The author argues that senior leaders are showing favoritism in their hiring and promotions, too.

The photo appears to show a woman happily putting someone's head inside her shirt, not the other way around.
 
4 days ago  
I love the outrage on this thread. Oh the killjoys. Just a few co-workers goofing around at the bar!

The article clearly implies there are allegations of repeated improprieties by senior management.  So much so, the union rep stated there was problems with this agency or department.  And even if it is just one disgruntled employee who has an axe to grind, the higher ups still have to investigate.   There are potential civil and in the most extreme situations - possible criminal liabilities.

Bottom line, office parties?  Going out with drinks with someone clearly lower or higher than you on the food chain ?  All that stuff shouldn't really involve anything remotely sexual.   Does that make everything as boring as a Sunday church social?  Fark yeah, but that's the state of affairs we're in.
 
4 days ago  
But you know what?  I'm glad there are people like you guys that say, "who farking cares?"

We have an employment law department at our firm that is always busy when the shiat inevitably hits the fan at other companies.
 
4 days ago  

Throbelisk: Boo to you subby, and boo to to mod who greenlighted this farce.  This is just a single employee who's mad for some reason trying to get back at his/her coworkers.  This is not news.


Holy shiat; I know you're new to Fark but this is EXACTLY the kind of bullshiat that was made for this site.
Live & learn, I guess.
 
4 days ago  

SirEattonHogg: But you know what?  I'm glad there are people like you guys that say, "who farking cares?"

We have an employment law department at our firm that is always busy when the shiat inevitably hits the fan at other companies.


You are really getting a kick out of these replies!
 
4 days ago  

busy chillin': SirEattonHogg: But you know what?  I'm glad there are people like you guys that say, "who farking cares?"

We have an employment law department at our firm that is always busy when the shiat inevitably hits the fan at other companies.

You are really getting a kick out of these replies!


An oldie but goody.
 
4 days ago  
That's nothing. They should show the pictures of the guy wearing the "Free Mustache Ride" shirt.
 
4 days ago  
It's not news its Fark.com
 
4 days ago  
Many respectable physicists said that they weren't going to stand for this -- partly because it was a debasement of science, but mostly because they didn't get invited to those sort of parties.
 
4 days ago  

snarkherder: because they didn't get invited to those sort of parties.


neither do I and I'm neither a scientist nor a state lottery worker but you don't hear me complaining!
 
4 days ago  
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The winning numbers are 44
 
4 days ago  
What was the inappropriate part? That she kept her shirt on for the motorboat, or that the guy neglected to make the boat noises?
 
4 days ago  

SirEattonHogg: I love the outrage on this thread. Oh the killjoys. Just a few co-workers goofing around at the bar!

The article clearly implies there are allegations of repeated improprieties by senior management.  So much so, the union rep stated there was problems with this agency or department.  And even if it is just one disgruntled employee who has an axe to grind, the higher ups still have to investigate.   There are potential civil and in the most extreme situations - possible criminal liabilities.

Bottom line, office parties?  Going out with drinks with someone clearly lower or higher than you on the food chain ?  All that stuff shouldn't really involve anything remotely sexual.   Does that make everything as boring as a Sunday church social?  Fark yeah, but that's the state of affairs we're in.


What outrage? The only outrage until your post was the shiat you created out of thin air.
 
4 days ago  
Public employees should return to their cloisters when their work is done.  They can have fun when they're dead.
 
4 days ago  

SirEattonHogg: I love the outrage on this thread. Oh the killjoys. Just a few co-workers goofing around at the bar!

The article clearly implies there are allegations of repeated improprieties by senior management.  So much so, the union rep stated there was problems with this agency or department.  And even if it is just one disgruntled employee who has an axe to grind, the higher ups still have to investigate.   There are potential civil and in the most extreme situations - possible criminal liabilities.

Bottom line, office parties?  Going out with drinks with someone clearly lower or higher than you on the food chain ?  All that stuff shouldn't really involve anything remotely sexual.   Does that make everything as boring as a Sunday church social?  Fark yeah, but that's the state of affairs we're in.


Absolutely agree.  You wanna go motorboating on your own dime, your own time, that's your damn business. But not with people you work with.
In charge of an operation that handles a lot of money for the state?  Hold yourself to some kind of professional standards, dammit.  that guy should be fired.  And then Im going to hang out with him after work.  he wont have anything better to do.
 
4 days ago  
We need clear, concise, and blanket rules for all public employees.  If it is OK to fire a teacher for being pictured doing the same consentual thing at a bar, then it MUST be applied to lottery employees.  Or, the better solution would be to not fire the teacher for doing the same thing.

Have the rules apply to everyone no matter age, race, height, weight, or social status.

Problem solved.
 
4 days ago  
Nudge nudge
 
4 days ago  

AmbassadorBooze: We need clear, concise, and blanket rules for all public employees.  If it is OK to fire a teacher for being pictured doing the same consentual thing at a bar, then it MUST be applied to lottery employees.  Or, the better solution would be to not fire the teacher for doing the same thing.

Have the rules apply to everyone no matter age, race, height, weight, or social status.

Problem solved.


The problem is is that there isn't just "The government".  There are different divisions run by different people.  In many cases, they have different standards.
 
4 days ago  
So the next winning lottery numbers are 24 - 26 - 30 - 32 - 34 - 44
 
4 days ago  

Geotpf: AmbassadorBooze: We need clear, concise, and blanket rules for all public employees.  If it is OK to fire a teacher for being pictured doing the same consentual thing at a bar, then it MUST be applied to lottery employees.  Or, the better solution would be to not fire the teacher for doing the same thing.

Have the rules apply to everyone no matter age, race, height, weight, or social status.

Problem solved.

The problem is is that there isn't just "The government".  There are different divisions run by different people.  In many cases, they have different standards.


Syncronize the standards.  Get rid of all the departments and employees coming up with all the different standards and have one department in the "government" that says here is the one standard to rule them all.  Please to be giving us feedback on this and maybe we can change the rules for everybody.  Like maybe the first draft will say, no being photographed with your head up a shirt at a bar.  Then everybody says "our free time is ours! even us teachers!"  and the new standards department will go "that makes sense, heads up shirts for everybody!"  Or they will say "Sorry lottery employees, but rules must be applied equally and without bias, and we cant have teachers sticking thier heads up shirts, so.... No heads up shirts for everybody.  We suggest pettitioning the voters to pass a law or elect polititians that will explicitly state that teachers cannot be fired for being pictured with their head up a shirt."
 
4 days ago  
Years ago my job used to have these mandatory BS team building happy hours and the last few they had seemed to just get people fired for stuff they did there. I missed them because I really didn't want to see a lot of these people, never felt comfortable drinking with the higher ups. I would usually offer to cover for other people that wanted to go to them.
I don't mind grabbing drinks with coworkers, just did it last week, but I really hate the official work ones they always seem like BS and a way to get out of giving a raise to people that deserve it.
 
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