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(The Hill)   You mean to tell me that a group that calls themselves the Partnership for America's Health Care Future doesn't actually care about America or its future and only cares about corporate profits   ( thehill.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Health care, Health Care Future, Medicare, Health insurance, Barack Obama, Health economics, President of the United States, Bernie Sanders  
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2018-08-10 02:43:12 PM  
Maybe you have been wondering about healthcare in Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthc​a​re_in_Russia
 
2018-08-10 03:25:34 PM  
From TFA:

The Partnership for America's Health Care Future, which was formed in June, includes a wide range of major players in health care: America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), the American Medical Association and the Federation of American Hospitals.

Those last two are the big ones, because they're where all the money is (and is going) in American healthcare.  You want a healthcare system that costs as much as other countries?  That's who you've got to fight to do it.
 
2018-08-10 04:12:53 PM  
Next thing you'll tell me the Freedom Caucus really just wants a corporate theocracy
 
2018-08-10 04:33:47 PM  
They should have went with The Corporation for Public Fraudcasting.
 
2018-08-10 05:07:05 PM  
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2018-08-10 05:07:19 PM  
I see the mistake: it's supposed to be "Partnership for America's Health Care INDUSTRY Future"
 
2018-08-10 05:07:30 PM  
*PEARL CLUTCHING COMMENCES*
 
2018-08-10 05:07:33 PM  
Wait till you hear about the Southern Poverty Law Center.
 
2018-08-10 05:14:00 PM  

snocone: Maybe you have been wondering about healthcare in Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthca​re_in_Russia


Quit be baby tsoravich, rub beet on it and walk off pain.
 
2018-08-10 05:14:51 PM  
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"We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace - business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering. They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs.

We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me - and I welcome their hatred."
 
2018-08-10 05:16:53 PM  
Unmitigated greed is a kind of future.
 
2018-08-10 05:20:07 PM  
This is the most important takeaway I got from the article:

The formation of the Partnership for America's Health Care Future is a sign of the health-care industry's alarm ... Health insurance and drug companies, who are often at odds on policy issues, banded together to form the group

Doctors and patients are apparently not included in the health-care industry.
 
2018-08-10 05:20:24 PM  
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2018-08-10 05:20:52 PM  
Vladimir Putin benefits when Americans are sick and weak.
 
2018-08-10 05:25:00 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Wait till you hear about the Southern Poverty Law Center.


What about it
 
2018-08-10 05:32:03 PM  
"Their worry is about 2020 and it's becoming the litmus test for Democrats," said one insurance industry source familiar with the plan to create the new partnership.

Hrm, a corporate shill complaining about a purity test. Where have I seen this before...
 
2018-08-10 05:32:38 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Wait till you hear about the Southern Poverty Law Center.


Those bastards gunned down my family one time.
 
2018-08-10 05:34:23 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Wait till you hear about the Southern Poverty Law Center.


Why, did you end on on one of the idiot lists, aka hate  group membership roll ?
 
2018-08-10 05:59:53 PM  

snocone: Maybe you have been wondering about healthcare in Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthca​re_in_Russia


Putin's raising the retirement age there too.
 
2018-08-10 06:03:57 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Wait till you hear about the Southern Poverty Law Center.


We just did - from you.
And you apparently lack anything of note to say on the subject.
 
2018-08-10 06:04:29 PM  
Given the way conservatives in America have a tendency to give evil things happy-sounding names like "Christianity".... I am seriously going to give rhis Satanism thing a look.
 
2018-08-10 06:26:41 PM  
The Clean Air Act
The Patriot Act...
 
2018-08-10 06:29:00 PM  

Karac: This is the most important takeaway I got from the article:

The formation of the Partnership for America's Health Care Future is a sign of the health-care industry's alarm ... Health insurance and drug companies, who are often at odds on policy issues, banded together to form the group

Doctors and patients are apparently not included in the health-care industry.


the AMA Is just doctors and they are part of it.PHARMS is in as well so pharmacists included.

Federation of American Hospitals is hospital execs and the hospitals board, which typically is made up of doctors.

It's a farking cartel

I've seen one doc on this forum who is all about medicare for all, but I think he is younger and drowning in student debt.

Have loan forgiveness for an NHS like system but bring pay down to under 200k. Still cheaper than what we have now, docs don't feel the need to form conglomerates and corporations.

Any asshole who wants to go completely private can go concierge, but they aren't going to use their pull to get preferential treatment at nonprofit status hospitals that take medicare.
 
2018-08-10 06:40:06 PM  

thehobbes: Karac: This is the most important takeaway I got from the article:

The formation of the Partnership for America's Health Care Future is a sign of the health-care industry's alarm ... Health insurance and drug companies, who are often at odds on policy issues, banded together to form the group

Doctors and patients are apparently not included in the health-care industry.

the AMA Is just doctors and they are part of it.PHARMS is in as well so pharmacists included.

Federation of American Hospitals is hospital execs and the hospitals board, which typically is made up of doctors.

It's a farking cartel

I've seen one doc on this forum who is all about medicare for all, but I think he is younger and drowning in student debt.

Have loan forgiveness for an NHS like system but bring pay down to under 200k. Still cheaper than what we have now, docs don't feel the need to form conglomerates and corporations.

Any asshole who wants to go completely private can go concierge, but they aren't going to use their pull to get preferential treatment at nonprofit status hospitals that take medicare.


You will also have to do something about liability. Hospitals are able to do miraculous things for so many people, but they're spending a shiatload of money making sure their asses are covered for the last few percent that slip through the cracks, for whatever reason.
 
2018-08-10 07:01:51 PM  

Charlie Freak: thehobbes: Karac: This is the most important takeaway I got from the article:

The formation of the Partnership for America's Health Care Future is a sign of the health-care industry's alarm ... Health insurance and drug companies, who are often at odds on policy issues, banded together to form the group

Doctors and patients are apparently not included in the health-care industry.

the AMA Is just doctors and they are part of it.PHARMS is in as well so pharmacists included.

Federation of American Hospitals is hospital execs and the hospitals board, which typically is made up of doctors.

It's a farking cartel

I've seen one doc on this forum who is all about medicare for all, but I think he is younger and drowning in student debt.

Have loan forgiveness for an NHS like system but bring pay down to under 200k. Still cheaper than what we have now, docs don't feel the need to form conglomerates and corporations.

Any asshole who wants to go completely private can go concierge, but they aren't going to use their pull to get preferential treatment at nonprofit status hospitals that take medicare.

You will also have to do something about liability. Hospitals are able to do miraculous things for so many people, but they're spending a shiatload of money making sure their asses are covered for the last few percent that slip through the cracks, for whatever reason.


Not at all.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltz​i​k/la-fi-mh-another-study-shows-why-tor​t-reform--20140919-column.html

Tort reform doesn't reduce  costs. Thathe is a myth the hospitals and doctors concocted.

They just pocket the savings.
 
2018-08-10 07:07:07 PM  

thehobbes: Charlie Freak: thehobbes: Karac: This is the most important takeaway I got from the article:

The formation of the Partnership for America's Health Care Future is a sign of the health-care industry's alarm ... Health insurance and drug companies, who are often at odds on policy issues, banded together to form the group

Doctors and patients are apparently not included in the health-care industry.

the AMA Is just doctors and they are part of it.PHARMS is in as well so pharmacists included.

Federation of American Hospitals is hospital execs and the hospitals board, which typically is made up of doctors.

It's a farking cartel

I've seen one doc on this forum who is all about medicare for all, but I think he is younger and drowning in student debt.

Have loan forgiveness for an NHS like system but bring pay down to under 200k. Still cheaper than what we have now, docs don't feel the need to form conglomerates and corporations.

Any asshole who wants to go completely private can go concierge, but they aren't going to use their pull to get preferential treatment at nonprofit status hospitals that take medicare.

You will also have to do something about liability. Hospitals are able to do miraculous things for so many people, but they're spending a shiatload of money making sure their asses are covered for the last few percent that slip through the cracks, for whatever reason.

Not at all.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzi​k/la-fi-mh-another-study-shows-why-tor​t-reform--20140919-column.html

Tort reform doesn't reduce  costs. Thathe is a myth the hospitals and doctors concocted.

They just pocket the savings.


That article is geared primarily toward doctors. Hospitals spent a lot of money on compliance so they are not the ones left holding the bag of things go pear-shaped. It is questionable whether a sizable chunk of that affects patient outcomes either way.
 
2018-08-10 07:08:55 PM  
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2018-08-10 07:44:15 PM  

laxspanker13: Kangaroo_Ralph: Wait till you hear about the Southern Poverty Law Center.

What about it


Marsupial-Barf is upset they've put all his friends on their shiatlist.
 
2018-08-11 12:42:28 AM  
I will never, never forget that during Obama's first campaign for the Presidency, he stumbled over his words a little and made a reference to "America's health scare system."

My thoughts on that was, and still are...

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