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(Yahoo)   Wake Forest assistant basketball coach turns himself in after punching a FL tourist in NYC who banged on his car, mistaking it for his Uber. Fark: The tourist died from his injuries. That's...that's one hell of a right hook you got there, pal   ( yahoo.com) divider line
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4 days ago  
So it's basically road rage?
 
4 days ago  

edmo: So it's basically road rage?


There's a ptoential self defense argument ..weirdo starts pounding on you hood at night you get scared, etc....but with the other guy being dead cops are going to examine that scene VERY carefully, and even if he beats the criminal rap there's a wrongful death suit coming
 
4 days ago  
They don't call 'em *demon* deacons for no reason
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  
Always punch a drunk in the gut. And take a step back before they empty their beer out. It's the responsible way to beat a moron's ass.
 
4 days ago  
There's always that risk when you deck someone that they're going to hit the ground the wrong way and turn into a murder charge. Real bad luck for Wake Forest guy here.
 
4 days ago  

Magorn: edmo: So it's basically road rage?

There's a ptoential self defense argument ..weirdo starts pounding on you hood at night you get scared, etc....but with the other guy being dead cops are going to examine that scene VERY carefully, and even if he beats the criminal rap there's a wrongful death suit coming


In addition to banging on cars, Szabo punched a local resident when they came out to see who was making the racket.  I'm sure Jones' lawyers will argue he was acting in defense of a third party (which I have been told is a justifiable cause for assault in New York.

He's still going to have to answer for fleeing the scene, though.

/Wakeylicks?
 
4 days ago  
It was a Florida tourist, so we can do a George Zimmerman "stand your ground" defense, right?
 
4 days ago  

edmo: So it's basically road rage?


He's a college coach, so more likely 'roid rage.
 
4 days ago  

Cagey B: There's always that risk when you deck someone that they're going to hit the ground the wrong way and turn into a murder charge. Real bad luck for Wake Forest guy here.


He'll beat this. 1:30am and some drunk guy is banging on your car. You hit him once (no extra punches or kicks etc etc etc) and then drive away... You obviously didn't know his head hit the pavement as bad as it did and out of fear you didn't stick around (who knew if he had friends close by or was in a gang).

A terrible accident.
 
4 days ago  

Magorn: edmo: So it's basically road rage?

There's a ptoential self defense argument ..weirdo starts pounding on you hood at night you get scared, etc....but with the other guy being dead cops are going to examine that scene VERY carefully, and even if he beats the criminal rap there's a wrongful death suit coming


Yeah, except this version of the story has been spun quite a bit.

Previous stories stated Szabo was knocking on windows, not "banging on cars."

So fine, let's say he was banging on the hood.  Does that justify getting out of your vehicle, clocking a guy so hard his head hits the pavement and knocks him out cold, then driving away while the unconscious dude is bleeding?

""Me and the man, we picked him up and leaned him against a car so he would stop choking on his blood until the ambulance came," the teen said.

F*ck this guy.
 
4 days ago  
Just happy he "surrounded" himself to the police, as per TFA.
 
4 days ago  

edmo: So it's basically road rage?


Stand Your Ground
 
4 days ago  

Cagey B: There's always that risk when you deck someone that they're going to hit the ground the wrong way and turn into a murder charge. Real bad luck for Wake Forest guy here.


Worse luck for the guy that died and his family.
 
4 days ago  

Cagey B: There's always that risk when you deck someone that they're going to hit the ground the wrong way and turn into a murder charge. Real bad luck for Wake Forest guy here.


But when any force is considered to be deadly force...
 
4 days ago  

Special Guest: Just happy he "surrounded" himself to the police, as per TFA.


Came here to say it: Jones, who surrounded to police Thursday, was notified Friday about the school's decision.
Good god people.
 
4 days ago  

WelldeadLink: Cagey B: There's always that risk when you deck someone that they're going to hit the ground the wrong way and turn into a murder charge. Real bad luck for Wake Forest guy here.

But when any force is considered to be deadly force...


Space Force?
 
4 days ago  

Special Guest: Just happy he "surrounded" himself to the police, as per TFA.


Cops don't like you coming up and hugging them.
 
4 days ago  

Mr.Hawk: 1:30am and some drunk guy is banging on your car. You hit him once (no extra punches or kicks etc etc etc) and then drive away


saywhat? You just drive away. No punching needed.
 
4 days ago  
Drunk guy banging on cars in NYC is not going to live long. I doubt Jones shortened Szabo's life by much.
 
4 days ago  

sunderland56: Mr.Hawk: 1:30am and some drunk guy is banging on your car. You hit him once (no extra punches or kicks etc etc etc) and then drive away

saywhat? You just drive away. No punching needed.


I'm saying that this will be his defense in court. As the beginning of my quote says. Which you cut off when you quoted me.
 
4 days ago  
It's OK, everyone, he surrounded to police.

Nice proofreading, Yahoo!
 
4 days ago  
Racially motivated attack?
 
4 days ago  

HempHead: edmo: So it's basically road rage?

Stand Your Ground


Except he got out of his car, decked the guy, then got back in and drove off?  Seems more like assault than anything else.
 
4 days ago  

She comes in colors everywhere: It was a Florida tourist, so we can do a George Zimmerman "stand your ground" defense, right?


That defense is not meant for use by attractive and successful people.
 
4 days ago  

Magorn: edmo: So it's basically road rage?

There's a ptoential self defense argument ..weirdo starts pounding on you hood at night you get scared, etc...


A tough one, though, since you're in a big SUV and he's outside. Prosecution would argue that the coach decided to get out and go after him for revenge for touching his car, and that that's even sufficient time for premeditation, if they're trying for a murder charge. Not a slam dunk, of course, but there are potential arguments on both sides.
 
4 days ago  

Special Guest: Just happy he "surrounded" himself to the police, as per TFA.


Well, he's black, so if he let them surround him, he'd probably end up shot.
 
4 days ago  
I guess he'll have lots of contenders in prison after his training match on the street.
 
4 days ago  
If he was white and shot the guy banging on his car with a gun he would have been merely standing his ground, but he has the unfortunate condition of being black.
 
4 days ago  

goatleggedfellow: Drunk guy banging on cars in NYC is not going to live long. I doubt Jones shortened Szabo's life by much.


Oh please.  Spare me the whole tough guy New Yahhk bit.
 
4 days ago  

All2morrowsparTs: If he was white and shot the guy banging on his car with a gun he would have been merely standing his ground, but he has the unfortunate condition of being black.


"Standing your ground" only applies to terrified white guys, silly.
 
4 days ago  
The victim's Facebook page is getting filled with "I knew him he was a racist" comments from people who don't even live in the country, let alone Florida.  Yeah, sure they knew him.  Lots of #FreeJamille posts as well.

Man do people just suck.
 
4 days ago  

NotThatGuyAgain: The victim's Facebook page is getting filled with "I knew him he was a racist" comments from people who don't even live in the country, let alone Florida.  Yeah, sure they knew him.  Lots of #FreeJamille posts as well.

Man do people just suck.


Yeeeup. Coordinated trolling by all the gross reddits trying to pretend to be some caricature of "the left." Luckily people with half a brain can see through it.
 
4 days ago  
I mean... Giant athletic man punches drunken slob for touching a car.

That's a paddlin'
 
4 days ago  

HempHead: Cagey B: There's always that risk when you deck someone that they're going to hit the ground the wrong way and turn into a murder charge. Real bad luck for Wake Forest guy here.

Worse luck for the guy that died and his family.


Dude had apparently just punched someone else in the face himself when he was confronted about being a drunk asshole. I'm going to hazard a guess that this a more heated situation than a light tapping on the coach's window followed by entreating him for a small amount of Grey Poupon. Bad luck is something that, amazingly, seems to follow when people decide to start shiat.
 
4 days ago  

All2morrowsparTs: If he was white and shot the guy banging on his car with a gun he would have been merely standing his ground, but he has the unfortunate condition of being black.


Derp
 
4 days ago  

Alcaste: NotThatGuyAgain: The victim's Facebook page is getting filled with "I knew him he was a racist" comments from people who don't even live in the country, let alone Florida.  Yeah, sure they knew him.  Lots of #FreeJamille posts as well.

Man do people just suck.

Yeeeup. Coordinated trolling by all the gross reddits trying to pretend to be some caricature of "the left." Luckily people with half a brain can see through it.


Suuurrreeeee
 
4 days ago  

happydude45: Alcaste: NotThatGuyAgain: The victim's Facebook page is getting filled with "I knew him he was a racist" comments from people who don't even live in the country, let alone Florida.  Yeah, sure they knew him.  Lots of #FreeJamille posts as well.

Man do people just suck.

Yeeeup. Coordinated trolling by all the gross reddits trying to pretend to be some caricature of "the left." Luckily people with half a brain can see through it.

Suuurrreeeee


Glad to hear that you agree, because your say means so much.
 
4 days ago  

happydude45: All2morrowsparTs: If he was white and shot the guy banging on his car with a gun he would have been merely standing his ground, but he has the unfortunate condition of being black.

Derp Word


FTFY
 
4 days ago  

Alcaste: happydude45: Alcaste: NotThatGuyAgain: The victim's Facebook page is getting filled with "I knew him he was a racist" comments from people who don't even live in the country, let alone Florida.  Yeah, sure they knew him.  Lots of #FreeJamille posts as well.

Man do people just suck.

Yeeeup. Coordinated trolling by all the gross reddits trying to pretend to be some caricature of "the left." Luckily people with half a brain can see through it.

Suuurrreeeee

Glad to hear that you agree, because your say means so much.


Ha, keep imagining things. It's all you can do
 
4 days ago  

happydude45: Alcaste: happydude45: Alcaste: NotThatGuyAgain: The victim's Facebook page is getting filled with "I knew him he was a racist" comments from people who don't even live in the country, let alone Florida.  Yeah, sure they knew him.  Lots of #FreeJamille posts as well.

Man do people just suck.

Yeeeup. Coordinated trolling by all the gross reddits trying to pretend to be some caricature of "the left." Luckily people with half a brain can see through it.

Suuurrreeeee

Glad to hear that you agree, because your say means so much.

Ha, keep imagining things. It's all you can do


Ah good call. I was just imagining your importance. It's not actually all that much. Thanks for correcting me.
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  

Magorn: edmo: So it's basically road rage?

There's a ptoential self defense argument ..weirdo starts pounding on you hood at night you get scared, etc....but with the other guy being dead cops are going to examine that scene VERY carefully, and even if he beats the criminal rap there's a wrongful death suit coming


Back in the 1980s when Peoples Court had Judge Wapner, they had a case like this.  A guy walking across the street taps on some dude's Jaguar.  The Jaguar driver gets out and beats the pedestrian up.  The pedestrian Sue's the guy only for medical expenses ($5,000). Judge Wapner said if the guy sued him in civil court for $500,000, he'd have given him every penny.
 
4 days ago  

FlyingJ: [img.fark.net image 250x350]


Great reference, I  woder how many will get it?
 
4 days ago  
From the news reports I've read, it sounds like decedent walked away upon realizing it wasn't his uber and the coach followed him and then punched him.  After punching him got into the car and sped away.

Not self defense.
 
4 days ago  

stir22: FlyingJ: [img.fark.net image 250x350]

Great reference, I  woder how many will get it?


Kermit didn't actually kill a guy.  Actually, from everything I've read, the aftermath was worse for him in many ways than it was for Tomjanovich
 
4 days ago  
Is the coach white or black? That will answer whether it is self defense or redrum....redrum...
 
4 days ago  

Magorn: edmo: So it's basically road rage?

There's a ptoential self defense argument ..weirdo starts pounding on you hood at night you get scared, etc....but with the other guy being dead cops are going to examine that scene VERY carefully, and even if he beats the criminal rap there's a wrongful death suit coming


I understand that this could be the argument but nobody who has ever truly feared for their life in this situation has ever got out of the car and engaged the person who was making them fear for their life in hand to hand combat.

If you truly fear for your life you stay in the vehicle and drive away.

If you want to be a farking asshole to someone who is banging on your car then you get out and kick their ass.

The rest of us just check that our doors are locked and keep driving.

Dude may go to jail for YEARS because he got mad someone was banging on his car. What a farking child.
 
4 days ago  
Once again: If it's not worth killing or dying over, don't start a street fight. You're not on a school playground anymore. Potential consequences are far worse than a week of suspension.
 
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