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2018-08-10 10:42:43 AM  
Couldn't they just allow gun to ghost direct?
 
2018-08-10 10:53:00 AM  
Apologize, compensate and reinstate.
 
2018-08-10 10:54:18 AM  

alechemist: Couldn't they just allow gun to ghost direct?


His brother is going to be the body actor, then they'll fill him in with James Gunn via CGI.
 
2018-08-10 10:57:51 AM  

alechemist: Couldn't they just allow gun to ghost direct?


DGA would have a large problem with that.
 
2018-08-10 10:58:07 AM  
What a madcap adventure
 
2018-08-10 10:58:59 AM  
This whole thing has been a shiatshow from beginning to end.  Is anyone going to look good coming out of this, regardless of what happens?
 
2018-08-10 10:59:15 AM  
Can't they just add him in later with CGI?
 
2018-08-10 11:01:20 AM  
So the mouse CAN be reasoned with?
 
2018-08-10 11:01:41 AM  
One of those rare occasions in which Disney has everything to lose. Gunn doesn't owe them squat, he has other studios lining up to hire him, the viable script for the film is also his plus a cast that is loyal.
 
2018-08-10 11:09:14 AM  
Disney knows that there are multiple Brinks trucks waiting to dump piles of cash from DC to make/develop movies for them.
 
2018-08-10 11:09:15 AM  
Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?
 
2018-08-10 11:10:00 AM  
He didn't deserve to get fired...But good god, don't compare yourself to a pedophile.  That's not even close to funny or edgy.
 
2018-08-10 11:10:44 AM  
What about that Alan Smithee fellow?  I hear he's always looking for work.
 
2018-08-10 11:11:45 AM  
Oh The Drama.
 
2018-08-10 11:12:31 AM  

Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?


Old pedo and rape jokes on twitter.
 
2018-08-10 11:12:50 AM  

Bslim: One of those rare occasions in which Disney has everything to lose. Gunn doesn't owe them squat, he has other studios lining up to hire him, the viable script for the film is also his plus a cast that is loyal.


Didn't Disney already buy his script? And aren't all the actors under contract? I'd say they're holding a few cards.
 
2018-08-10 11:13:52 AM  

Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?


He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.
 
2018-08-10 11:15:35 AM  

Bslim: One of those rare occasions in which Disney has everything to lose. Gunn doesn't owe them squat, he has other studios lining up to hire him, the viable script for the film is also his plus a cast that is loyal.


Name exactly 1 thing they have to lose?   I'm confident they can find someone else for part 3 and make a billion dollars again.
 
2018-08-10 11:16:05 AM  

This text is now purple: alechemist: Couldn't they just allow gun to ghost direct?

DGA would have a large problem with that.


http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/di​r​ectors/244186/11-movies-that-might-hav​e-been-directed-by-someone-else

Wouldn't be the first time.
 
2018-08-10 11:16:12 AM  

Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?


No.  He used to tweet edgelord jokes back when he still made films for Troma (before Disney hired him).  An alt-right rapist recently started digging up those old twiter jokes, altered some of them to falsely make it appear Gunn did things like share actual child porn when he didn't, and started spamming them to Disney.

Disney panicked and fired Gunn about 12 hours later, and now are realizing they kinda got played.
 
2018-08-10 11:17:24 AM  
Hand out tiki torches and maga hats to everyone on set.
 
2018-08-10 11:17:38 AM  

alechemist: Couldn't they just allow gun to ghost direct?


Do you think he brings that much creative vision to the table that they would pursue that?  The ONLY reason to get him back is to please the fans (and cast) who support him.    Him ghost directing wouldn't have an effect on those things.
 
2018-08-10 11:18:30 AM  

Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?


RWNJ hit job. Slimy Trumpers with an agenda.
Hope he gets his job back, and publicly mocks them.
 
2018-08-10 11:18:37 AM  

cgraves67: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.


Yeah, the left hates it when their standard is used against them.
 
2018-08-10 11:18:45 AM  

T.rex: Bslim: One of those rare occasions in which Disney has everything to lose. Gunn doesn't owe them squat, he has other studios lining up to hire him, the viable script for the film is also his plus a cast that is loyal.

Name exactly 1 thing they have to lose?   I'm confident they can find someone else for part 3 and make a billion dollars again.


I'm not that confident.
 
2018-08-10 11:19:30 AM  

cgraves67: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.


Remember, it's not a fireable offense if you're supported by liberals.
- George Costanza, 1993
 
2018-08-10 11:21:12 AM  

A'isha P.: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

No.  He used to tweet edgelord jokes back when he still made films for Troma (before Disney hired him).  An alt-right rapist recently started digging up those old twiter jokes, altered some of them to falsely make it appear Gunn did things like share actual child porn when he didn't, and started spamming them to Disney.

Disney panicked and fired Gunn about 12 hours later, and now are realizing they kinda got played.


Thanks.

But my god, edgy jokes on twitter? How is this man not hanging by the neck from a lamp post?!?!
/s
 
2018-08-10 11:21:27 AM  

mrsleep: Yeah, the left hates it when their standard is used against them.


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2018-08-10 11:22:06 AM  

Mugato: Bslim: One of those rare occasions in which Disney has everything to lose. Gunn doesn't owe them squat, he has other studios lining up to hire him, the viable script for the film is also his plus a cast that is loyal.

Didn't Disney already buy his script? And aren't all the actors under contract? I'd say they're holding a few cards.


Nobody seems to be clear on that. The mess comes from Disney firing him for reasons that aren't him breaching his contract. Did the deal include him and his script? What about rewrites on his script?
 
2018-08-10 11:22:10 AM  
It may have occurred to Disney that the audience of the future isn't 60-something trump humpers.
Now they have to scurry around and try not to lose face, while basically admittyng they got played by alt-right slime.
 
2018-08-10 11:22:54 AM  

Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?


Some Nazi pointed out that Gunn was a douchetastic edgelord with a penchant for anti-Semitic and child rape jokes, and Disney thought that those 6-year-old jokes (pun regretfully intended) might have been over the line for an adult human being to make.

And now the internet wants us to excuse it just because a Nazi pointed it out 6 years after the fact (and supposedly, the fact that Disney knew way back when means no one else is allowed to care).

// hire Nicole Perlman for GotG3
 
2018-08-10 11:23:09 AM  

mrsleep: cgraves67: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.

Yeah, the left hates it when their standard is used against them.


You keep saying that over and over and over again, as if it's true.

There's a difference between things that happened years ago (directed at no one or no incident in particular) and things occurring with regularity right now, aimed at specific individuals and incidents, demonstrating what you think while working for your employer.

But keep it up.  Maybe Rosanne Barr with sleep with you.
 
2018-08-10 11:25:42 AM  

mrsleep: Yeah, the left hates it when their standard is used against them.


If you're referring to Roseanne getting fired because of what she said, she wasn't. She was fired because they were hemorrhaging sponsors because of it.
 
2018-08-10 11:26:12 AM  

Khellendros: You keep saying that over and over and over again, as if it's true.


He really wants it to be true.
He needs top p[retend to himself that childish jokes and a belief that other human beings are inferior to you because of their ethnic background are the same thing.
Racism is what defines the Right in America today, so the so-called "conservatives" have to try to normalize and mainstream racism as "just another opinion".
 
2018-08-10 11:26:52 AM  

T.rex: Bslim: One of those rare occasions in which Disney has everything to lose. Gunn doesn't owe them squat, he has other studios lining up to hire him, the viable script for the film is also his plus a cast that is loyal.

Name exactly 1 thing they have to lose?   I'm confident they can find someone else for part 3 and make a billion dollars again.


Fans. People who won't watch a movie because the company that flaunts how they're the good guy and are geeks like them now lost their trust.
 
2018-08-10 11:28:09 AM  
Right-wingers sure are salty that they aren't allowed to keep making racist attacks on individuals while keeping their jobs, so they're reduced to lying about ten year old tweets made by a guy who has been saying mean things about the policies of their Orange Fuhrer.
 
2018-08-10 11:29:30 AM  
At some point, somebody's going to have to admit who actually did the farking firing. If it was Bob Iger himself, so be it. If it was Kevin Feige, so be it; he's fired people before, and it (mostly) worked. But if it's not those two guys, the Mouse needs to pull the choke leash. That's some Warner Bros level meddling shiat.
 
2018-08-10 11:31:25 AM  

Trik: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

Old pedo and rape jokes on twitter.


cgraves67: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.


Funny how everyone thinks the comments he made were no big deal, and yet no one is willng to directly quote what they were. I think it matters what he said. I know he has said he has "evolved" since then and has a lot of friends to support him. Great. Now has he ever once said how he now realizes how hurtful it is to survivors of child molestation and rape to have someone joke about doing the same to children? Or is it enough to just make a general "I'm sorry you didn't get the joke and I've grown up now" ? I don't think so. I think if I could see one word he has written or one word he has said SPECIFICALLY about how raping children is not a matter to joke about and how it is hurtful to raped children to joke about it, I might feel differently. But the way I feel as a survivor myself of being raped as a child, I don't think he is sorry for what he has done to hurt people like me one bit. I think he is just sorry he had to have any consequences for hurting people, and he is lucky to have friends that count more where informations comes from than what the information is.

I just think that the message matters more than the crappy messenger here. I don't care that it was some asshole that dug it up. He never should have said it, and he should have apologized to the raped kids, and he still hasn't done that, so in my book, he's not sorry at all still.
 
2018-08-10 11:32:25 AM  
If we can't BSAB every issue then we might have to reflect on where OUR side is saying or doing awful stuff.  Can't have that.
 
2018-08-10 11:33:15 AM  

alice_600: Fans. People who won't watch a movie because the company that flaunts how they're the good guy and are geeks like them now lost their trust.


A movie doesn't make a billion dollars just from people who even notice who the director is much less the drama behind it.

"Little Timmy, want to see GotG3?"
"No, Disney farked the director, screw that shiat, let's se the Melissa Mcarthy flick."
 
2018-08-10 11:37:47 AM  

Kirablue42: Trik: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

Old pedo and rape jokes on twitter.

cgraves67: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.

Funny how everyone thinks the comments he made were no big deal, and yet no one is willng to directly quote what they were. I think it matters what he said.


I agree. I want to see these tweets and judge for myself. There's a fine line between the humorous and the disgusting.
 
2018-08-10 11:38:31 AM  
Gunn stands to make 7-10 million as part of his exit deal with the Mouse. Negotiations still ongoing though.

They really need to start teaching internet accountability in early grades and use situations like this to show how your life can be derailed by a few off color jokes.
 
2018-08-10 11:38:43 AM  

Mugato: alice_600: Fans. People who won't watch a movie because the company that flaunts how they're the good guy and are geeks like them now lost their trust.

A movie doesn't make a billion dollars just from people who even notice who the director is much less the drama behind it.

"Little Timmy, want to see GotG3?"
"No, Disney farked the director, screw that shiat, let's se the Melissa Mcarthy flick."


Little Timmy sounds ...confused.
 
2018-08-10 11:51:50 AM  

mrsleep: cgraves67: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.

Yeah, the left hates it when their standard is used against them.


I think in these cases it's important to remember that nobody likes conservatives.
 
2018-08-10 11:51:58 AM  

wearetheworld: cgraves67: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.

Remember, it's not a fireable offense if you're supported by liberals.
- George Costanza, 1993


Yeah and if we did enough digging we would find some garbage in your dirty laundry. I know I have done and written things in my past I am not happy about. I look at my diaries and read my thoughts as a teen.Emo...oh the Emo... But when you don't learn from them and not grow as a human is when you're a failure at life. To say one side is better than the other cause both sides can be just as bad it's just right now the Right is so full of small crying spoiled children it's made a centrist like me make a hard left because of the issues are no longer in the center it's now in the left and the right has yet to even be man enough to admit their faults and say yes I am doing this for a wealthy corperation who needs the money to buy more things. Wealth is like an addiction once you got it you want more and more and that is the problem with today we want more than we can handle.

We shouldn't see people for their political leanings only what they do in that time. There have been some republican law makers I respected. Some I wouldn't mind talking to about some stuff over a cup of coffee and some pie. Mostly because they are willing to reach out across the isle. The Right isn't doing that anymore and even the moderates are being pushed out by the one who are the most conservative. 

James Gunn grew up. He changed we do that as we get older. Maybe my dear friend you're not ready for change. To see and accept the truth because you're scared. You're not ready to grow. That's okay but remember George Costanza was a man who lived with his parents and had a horrible life but he wasn't real. He was made up by Jerry Seinfeld. Someone who is real embraced change and made a better life for himself.
 
2018-08-10 11:54:13 AM  

Kirablue42: Trik: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

Old pedo and rape jokes on twitter.

cgraves67: Subtonic: Forgive me, I haven't been following this and there are too many stories to parse. Why was Gunn fired? #MeToo stuff?

He has a history of provocative social media use; joking about incest, rape, pedophilia etc. Some right-winger with a bone to pick dug them up and revealed them to the media and Disney went apeshiat.

Funny how everyone thinks the comments he made were no big deal, and yet no one is willng to directly quote what they were. I think it matters what he said. I know he has said he has "evolved" since then and has a lot of friends to support him. Great. Now has he ever once said how he now realizes how hurtful it is to survivors of child molestation and rape to have someone joke about doing the same to children? Or is it enough to just make a general "I'm sorry you didn't get the joke and I've grown up now" ? I don't think so. I think if I could see one word he has written or one word he has said SPECIFICALLY about how raping children is not a matter to joke about and how it is hurtful to raped children to joke about it, I might feel differently. But the way I feel as a survivor myself of being raped as a child, I don't think he is sorry for what he has done to hurt people like me one bit. I think he is just sorry he had to have any consequences for hurting people, and he is lucky to have friends that count more where informations comes from than what the information is.

I just think that the message matters more than the crappy messenger here. I don't care that it was some asshole that dug it up. He never should have said it, and he should have apologized to the raped kids, and he still hasn't done that, so in my book, he's not sorry at all still.


I think the only people who really care about the jokes from ten years ago are white knighters who forget that ten years ago we were doing pedo jokes on Venture Brothers.
 
2018-08-10 11:55:28 AM  

Kirablue42: Now has he ever once said how he now realizes how hurtful it is to survivors of child molestation and rape to have someone joke about doing the same to children?


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That's not one of Gunn's "jokes".  He knows all too well the harm actual child molestation (as opposed to stupid edgy Twitter jokes) can do, and he's talking about this:

The catalyst for that behavior, according to Gunn, was his school's monsignor, Russell J. Obmann. At the time, Gunn said he knew Obmann was giving young boys in his class alcohol and pornography - it was only much later that he understood the full magnitude of Obmann's behavior. "I didn't realize that the priest was molesting these kids, and that created this incredible society of farked-up-ed-ness in my class," Gunn said as he began restlessly swiveling in his chair with discomfort. "It even became a thing where, like, these notes were found by the teachers in my school of people passing notes, talking about drugs and sex. This was in fifth grade."

[...]

"I love my parents very much," Gunn said. "They're very embarrassed by it today, but I would say, 'Hey, mom and dad, Father Obmann is taking the kids over to the rectory and he's showing them porn movies and giving them beer,'" he recalled. "And they're like, 'Aw, Jimmy.' You know, this was back in the '80s, before people were sensitive to that stuff. They just thought we were making up something about the monsignor at our school."
 
2018-08-10 11:56:49 AM  

Mugato: Bslim: One of those rare occasions in which Disney has everything to lose. Gunn doesn't owe them squat, he has other studios lining up to hire him, the viable script for the film is also his plus a cast that is loyal.

Didn't Disney already buy his script? And aren't all the actors under contract? I'd say they're holding a few cards.


Because it always goes so well when someone with a screenwriter extensively uses humorous dialog, and and an unconnected director completely fails to understand it...

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2018-08-10 12:02:19 PM  

A'isha P.: Kirablue42: Now has he ever once said how he now realizes how hurtful it is to survivors of child molestation and rape to have someone joke about doing the same to children?

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That's not one of Gunn's "jokes".  He knows all too well the harm actual child molestation (as opposed to stupid edgy Twitter jokes) can do, and he's talking about this:

The catalyst for that behavior, according to Gunn, was his school's monsignor, Russell J. Obmann. At the time, Gunn said he knew Obmann was giving young boys in his class alcohol and pornography - it was only much later that he understood the full magnitude of Obmann's behavior. "I didn't realize that the priest was molesting these kids, and that created this incredible society of farked-up-ed-ness in my class," Gunn said as he began restlessly swiveling in his chair with discomfort. "It even became a thing where, like, these notes were found by the teachers in my school of people passing notes, talking about drugs and sex. This was in fifth grade."

[...]

"I love my parents very much," Gunn said. "They're very embarrassed by it today, but I would say, 'Hey, mom and dad, Father Obmann is taking the kids over to the rectory and he's showing them porn movies and giving them beer,'" he recalled. "And they're like, 'Aw, Jimmy.' You know, this was back in the '80s, before people were sensitive to that stuff. They just thought we were making up something about the monsignor at our school."


I will say this. I have been abused as a child, and still never found it necessary at any point in my life, no matter what other mistakes I have made, to joke about doing the same to another child myself. And that was what his jokes were. I wish someone would post what those comments on twitter were. I don't feel like going here anymore. I will just leave this here. If he is serious about being remorseful and wanting to help others, he should maybe offer to do some work for this organization.
https://www.d2l.org/
 
2018-08-10 12:08:43 PM  

Kirablue42: I will say this. I have been abused as a child, and still never found it necessary at any point in my life, no matter what other mistakes I have made, to joke about doing the same to another child myself.


Different people deal with trauma in different ways.
 
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