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(Chronicle Herald)   Man convicted of murder argues he got PTSD from strangling the woman, so he should be eligible for parole earlier   ( thechronicleherald.ca) divider line
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2018-08-10 07:49:34 AM  
What a choad.
 
2018-08-10 08:51:12 AM  
"Yes, I strangled my mother and father, but the court should take into account that I'm an orphan..."
 
2018-08-10 09:04:04 AM  
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2018-08-10 09:30:21 AM  
Lemme guess, white guy
*Clicks link*

Yep, white guy
 
2018-08-10 09:34:16 AM  
Ahh yes the old "I'm only a criminal because I committed so many crimes" defense
 
2018-08-10 09:35:19 AM  
No.

Next case....
 
2018-08-10 09:35:20 AM  
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, you dumbf*ck.
 
2018-08-10 09:35:29 AM  
That's like the classic legal definition of "chutzpah":  A man who kills his parents asking for mercy from the court because he's an orphan.
 
2018-08-10 09:35:47 AM  
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2018-08-10 09:36:34 AM  
Lemme guess, Canadian guy
*Clicks link*

Yep, Canadian
 
2018-08-10 09:37:52 AM  
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/Farking balls on that guy
 
2018-08-10 09:38:36 AM  
Could have been worse.
Could have been Niagra Falls.
 
2018-08-10 09:38:50 AM  
They should send his ass to Afghanistan so he can find out what real PTSD is like.
 
2018-08-10 09:44:16 AM  

maddan: They should send his ass to Afghanistan so he can find out what real PTSD is like.


You're not helping. Non combat PTSD can be just as awful and you're perpetuating that it isn't "real".

I get it  this guy is a tool for trying to get leniency  but it's like you're trying to be a hipster about mental illness. "You don't have organic, artisnal free range PTSD"
 
2018-08-10 09:46:31 AM  
his mental illness - brought on by the murder - should be a mitigating factor in deciding his parole eligibility.

My client is a mentally ill murderer. You should let him out!
 
2018-08-10 09:47:35 AM  
Pummel
That
shiatbag
Daily
 
2018-08-10 09:49:54 AM  
That's a bold strategy, Cotton.  Let's see how this plays out

/subby
 
2018-08-10 09:51:04 AM  
If he's that mentally ill...shouldn't they be keeping an eye on him longer, not shorter? For his own good....
 
2018-08-10 09:52:54 AM  

JTtheCajun: maddan: They should send his ass to Afghanistan so he can find out what real PTSD is like.

You're not helping. Non combat PTSD can be just as awful and you're perpetuating that it isn't "real".

I get it  this guy is a tool for trying to get leniency  but it's like you're trying to be a hipster about mental illness. "You don't have organic, artisnal free range PTSD"


Military PTSD accounts for only a fraction of PTSD diagnosis.  But this is the internet, more specifically Fark so you aren't likely to hear any real facts or information about any subject.
 
2018-08-10 10:00:03 AM  
That's ridiculous!  Insert obligatory statements of outrage here!

(Reads article)

Okay, so his ACTUAL CLAIM is that he killed her accidentally during rough consensual sex and that caused his PTSD.  Then, because of his PTSD, he hid her body.  He's asking for leniency on the charge of hiding the body with his PTSD as a mitigating factor.

That at least is something coherent to consider, not just a frivolous argument.
 
2018-08-10 10:04:11 AM  
I was totally sane until I starting killing hobos with a mallet, but now that I've killed a few dozen of them, I'm totally off my nut, so the court really should show some leniency.

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2018-08-10 10:07:36 AM  

Por que tan serioso: JTtheCajun: maddan: They should send his ass to Afghanistan so he can find out what real PTSD is like.

You're not helping. Non combat PTSD can be just as awful and you're perpetuating that it isn't "real".

I get it  this guy is a tool for trying to get leniency  but it's like you're trying to be a hipster about mental illness. "You don't have organic, artisnal free range PTSD"

Military PTSD accounts for only a fraction of PTSD diagnosis.  But this is the internet, more specifically Fark so you aren't likely to hear any real facts or information about any subject.


Ha, this isn't my first rodeo. I find standing by just doesn't do it for me any more. Even if it doesn't change his mind, it might make someone else think.

Also, nothing says "I'm getting old" like looking at your Fark number and seeing 15+ years.
 
2018-08-10 10:12:44 AM  
The rare situation where I hear about a mental trauma and give no farks.

lock this guy up and play scream tracks at him in the night.
 
2018-08-10 10:19:29 AM  

booger42: That's a bold strategy, Cotton.  Let's see how this plays out

/subby


Well, he didn't have anything to lose, and he definitely had something to gain, so why not try it?

It's like walking up to the Roulette wheel and being allowed to place a bet without having to put money down:  If you lose, you haven't lost any money, but if you win, you get money.  Why not take the chance?

In reading TFA, he should get life without the possibility of parole.  But I don't blame him for trying.
 
2018-08-10 10:33:29 AM  
fark this guy. What a piece of shiat.
 
2018-08-10 10:40:03 AM  
If it really was rough sex that killed the woman, why not make sure this guy can never have sex again?
 
2018-08-10 10:45:17 AM  

hubiestubert: "Yes, I strangled my mother and father, but the court should take into account that I'm an orphan..."


Fully supports this defense:

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2018-08-10 10:49:26 AM  

MattyBlast: If it really was rough sex that killed the woman, why not make sure this guy can never have sex again?


Remove his hands?
 
2018-08-10 10:53:58 AM  

IDisposable: That's ridiculous!  Insert obligatory statements of outrage here!

(Reads article)

Okay, so his ACTUAL CLAIM is that he killed her accidentally during rough consensual sex and that caused his PTSD.  Then, because of his PTSD, he hid her body.  He's asking for leniency on the charge of hiding the body with his PTSD as a mitigating factor.

That at least is something coherent to consider, not just a frivolous argument.


He is also asking for leniency for killing her, minimum sentence with eligibility for parole.
 
2018-08-10 10:58:10 AM  

JTtheCajun: Por que tan serioso: JTtheCajun: maddan: They should send his ass to Afghanistan so he can find out what real PTSD is like.

You're not helping. Non combat PTSD can be just as awful and you're perpetuating that it isn't "real".

I get it  this guy is a tool for trying to get leniency  but it's like you're trying to be a hipster about mental illness. "You don't have organic, artisnal free range PTSD"

Military PTSD accounts for only a fraction of PTSD diagnosis.  But this is the internet, more specifically Fark so you aren't likely to hear any real facts or information about any subject.

Ha, this isn't my first rodeo. I find standing by just doesn't do it for me any more. Even if it doesn't change his mind, it might make someone else think.

Also, nothing says "I'm getting old" like looking at your Fark number and seeing 15+ years.


You guys do know this is Fark?  Right?
Yes, yes...if he actually suffers from a mental disability, prior to or caused by the murder, he needs treatment.  Yes PTSD isn't caused JUST by service in the military.  It can be caused by things that might not even seem traumatic to most of us...it depends on the individual.
Everybody has their cause, where they feel they have to "stand up and be counted".  If PTSD or mental health is yours...rock on, good for you.  I came here to snark about something I find dubiously convenient, if not for this individual, then for the next, or the one after that some defense lawyer coaches to "have PTSD" because it's a possible defense.
I also don't feel the need to list every caveat or exemption to what I say, like a hair dryer with a tag that says don't use in the shower.  Sometimes in life, you just have to figure it out.  So have a good day kids, and if the soapbox I provided gave you some satisfaction, your welcome, and if not, sorry for arousing your ire.
 
2018-08-10 11:08:27 AM  
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2018-08-10 11:09:44 AM  

maddan: JTtheCajun: Por que tan serioso: JTtheCajun: maddan: They should send his ass to Afghanistan so he can find out what real PTSD is like.

You're not helping. Non combat PTSD can be just as awful and you're perpetuating that it isn't "real".

I get it  this guy is a tool for trying to get leniency  but it's like you're trying to be a hipster about mental illness. "You don't have organic, artisnal free range PTSD"

Military PTSD accounts for only a fraction of PTSD diagnosis.  But this is the internet, more specifically Fark so you aren't likely to hear any real facts or information about any subject.

Ha, this isn't my first rodeo. I find standing by just doesn't do it for me any more. Even if it doesn't change his mind, it might make someone else think.

Also, nothing says "I'm getting old" like looking at your Fark number and seeing 15+ years.

You guys do know this is Fark?  Right?
Yes, yes...if he actually suffers from a mental disability, prior to or caused by the murder, he needs treatment.  Yes PTSD isn't caused JUST by service in the military.  It can be caused by things that might not even seem traumatic to most of us...it depends on the individual.
Everybody has their cause, where they feel they have to "stand up and be counted".  If PTSD or mental health is yours...rock on, good for you.  I came here to snark about something I find dubiously convenient, if not for this individual, then for the next, or the one after that some defense lawyer coaches to "have PTSD" because it's a possible defense.
I also don't feel the need to list every caveat or exemption to what I say, like a hair dryer with a tag that says don't use in the shower.  Sometimes in life, you just have to figure it out.  So have a good day kids, and if the soapbox I provided gave you some satisfaction, your welcome, and if not, sorry for arousing your ire.


"You're"
 
2018-08-10 11:23:35 AM  
Fark this guy.

Lock him away for life.
 
2018-08-10 11:29:17 AM  
For this asshole to make such a claim is bad enough. For his lawyer to help him is f*cking unforgivable. How do lawyers like this even sleep at night?
 
2018-08-10 11:46:54 AM  

CommonName2: maddan: JTtheCajun: Por que tan serioso: JTtheCajun: maddan: They should send his ass to Afghanistan so he can find out what real PTSD is like.

You're not helping. Non combat PTSD can be just as awful and you're perpetuating that it isn't "real".

I get it  this guy is a tool for trying to get leniency  but it's like you're trying to be a hipster about mental illness. "You don't have organic, artisnal free range PTSD"

Military PTSD accounts for only a fraction of PTSD diagnosis.  But this is the internet, more specifically Fark so you aren't likely to hear any real facts or information about any subject.

Ha, this isn't my first rodeo. I find standing by just doesn't do it for me any more. Even if it doesn't change his mind, it might make someone else think.

Also, nothing says "I'm getting old" like looking at your Fark number and seeing 15+ years.

You guys do know this is Fark?  Right?
Yes, yes...if he actually suffers from a mental disability, prior to or caused by the murder, he needs treatment.  Yes PTSD isn't caused JUST by service in the military.  It can be caused by things that might not even seem traumatic to most of us...it depends on the individual.
Everybody has their cause, where they feel they have to "stand up and be counted".  If PTSD or mental health is yours...rock on, good for you.  I came here to snark about something I find dubiously convenient, if not for this individual, then for the next, or the one after that some defense lawyer coaches to "have PTSD" because it's a possible defense.
I also don't feel the need to list every caveat or exemption to what I say, like a hair dryer with a tag that says don't use in the shower.  Sometimes in life, you just have to figure it out.  So have a good day kids, and if the soapbox I provided gave you some satisfaction, your welcome, and if not, sorry for arousing your ire.

"You're"


haha...no yore...referencing my ancient history as my new friend kindly pointed out. Second time today, actually.  I suspect the local coffee was contaminated with decaf, as it seems not to be performing as usual.
 
2018-08-10 02:45:25 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: For this asshole to make such a claim is bad enough. For his lawyer to help him is f*cking unforgivable. How do lawyers like this even sleep at night?


On pillows stuffed with hundred dollar bills.

Or in a cozy coffin lined with their own grave-dirt because they're freaking bloodsuckers.

Flip a coin.
 
2018-08-10 03:06:34 PM  
To be fair, strangling a woman is stressful. Or so I've heard.
 
2018-08-10 03:45:51 PM  
Nothing about this line of reasoning says "rehabilitated".
 
2018-08-10 04:29:22 PM  
Tell you what Snowflake, we're not entirely without mercy. We'll make your death quick.
 
2018-08-11 03:36:04 AM  

maddan: Yes PTSD isn't caused JUST by service in the military. It can be caused by things that might not even seem traumatic to most of us...it depends on the individual.


It's only psychology. No real evidence base, driven largely by money. Psychological "diagnoses" are for the most part about as useful as "engrams" and "subluxations". And yes, people diagnosed as having problems with engrams and subluxations can be in genuine distress too.
 
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