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(ESPN)   The King's reign is over   ( espn.com) divider line
    More: Sad, Cy Young Award, Hernandez, Felix Hernandez, latest terrible start, nickname King Felix, American League Cy, Young Award winner, manager Scott Servais  
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2018-08-10 03:16:52 PM  
That recent game against the Rangers was an absolute shiat show.
 
2018-08-10 05:10:58 PM  
When the mind is willing, but the body is saying "fark you, I'm too old for this shiat", maybe it is time to listen to what your body is trying to tell you (and Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature to be able to throw as hard as he did for as long as he did as effectively as he did).
 
2018-08-10 05:17:08 PM  
He's only 32, but he's been pitching in the majors since 19.
 
2018-08-10 05:32:06 PM  
I thought this headline was gonna be about Jerry Lawler.
 
2018-08-10 05:33:11 PM  
He put up amazing seasons when the Mariners were otherwise a snuff film. It weirdly would be poetic justice if he unwisely fought and demanded a start every fifth day when clearly no longer capable and ended up being the reason this season's halfway decent squad fell short of the playoffs.
 
2018-08-10 05:41:51 PM  
HoF chances? Discuss.
 
2018-08-10 05:53:25 PM  
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Inconsolable.
 
2018-08-10 05:58:08 PM  

SkylineRecords: HoF chances? Discuss.


According to his BBR page, his numbers seem to fall short.  What really looks odd to me is that between 2009 and 2015, he made the All-Star team 6 of 7 years.  The one year he didn't was the year he won the Cy Young (with a 13-12 record).
 
2018-08-10 05:58:22 PM  
Man, lay off a little. His kid just died in jail.
 
2018-08-10 06:04:33 PM  

ClavellBCMI: When the mind is willing, but the body is saying "fark you, I'm too old for this shiat", maybe it is time to listen to what your body is trying to tell you (and Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature to be able to throw as hard as he did for as long as he did as effectively as he did).


Nolan had at the time an unprecedented workout regimen, in addition to not being a partier. When all of his teammates would be out partying he would sit in the hotel room when he was on the road reading cattle magazines. He also credits Tom House for extending his career by at least 5 years through the different types of workouts and exercises he would have him do. The whole throwing a football thing really worked
 
2018-08-10 06:48:07 PM  

buckeyebrain: I thought this headline was gonna be about Jerry Lawler.


I thought Richard Petty had left us.
 
2018-08-10 07:36:12 PM  
He's young still, I hope he can reinvent himself in the bullpen.
 
2018-08-10 08:40:21 PM  
He just needs to go to the Astros.
 
2018-08-10 08:59:28 PM  

Dafatone: He just needs to go to the Astros.


BACK to the astros... I think the mariners got him in the Randy Johnson trade if I recall.
I always thought he cut or scuffed the ball. He has crazy movement when he's on, and doesn't have that anymore on his fastball.
 
2018-08-10 09:11:12 PM  

detonator: Dafatone: He just needs to go to the Astros.

BACK to the astros... I think the mariners got him in the Randy Johnson trade if I recall.
I always thought he cut or scuffed the ball. He has crazy movement when he's on, and doesn't have that anymore on his fastball.


Felix has only ever been in the Mariners system. You're thinking of Freddy Garcia, maybe?
 
2018-08-10 09:13:52 PM  

The Bestest: detonator: Dafatone: He just needs to go to the Astros.

BACK to the astros... I think the mariners got him in the Randy Johnson trade if I recall.
I always thought he cut or scuffed the ball. He has crazy movement when he's on, and doesn't have that anymore on his fastball.

Felix has only ever been in the Mariners system. You're thinking of Freddy Garcia, maybe?


I stand corrected, sir.
 
2018-08-10 09:32:19 PM  

Dafatone: He just needs to go to the Astros.


Speaking as a Mariners fan, I believe that our curse is sooooooo strong....that he would become a dynamo on the mound again if that happened
 
2018-08-10 09:38:26 PM  

ClavellBCMI: When the mind is willing, but the body is saying "fark you, I'm too old for this shiat", maybe it is time to listen to what your body is trying to tell you (and Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature to be able to throw as hard as he did for as long as he did as effectively as he did).


Felix has been trying to still be the fireballing ace but his stuff has deserted him. He tops out in the low '90s these days and keeps trying to blow it by hitters. Until he figures out how to pitch offspeed-dominant, he needs to stay in the 'pen.
 
2018-08-10 10:28:04 PM  

WrongTrousers: ClavellBCMI: When the mind is willing, but the body is saying "fark you, I'm too old for this shiat", maybe it is time to listen to what your body is trying to tell you (and Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature to be able to throw as hard as he did for as long as he did as effectively as he did).

Felix has been trying to still be the fireballing ace but his stuff has deserted him. He tops out in the low '90s these days and keeps trying to blow it by hitters. Until he figures out how to pitch offspeed-dominant, he needs to stay in the 'pen.


CC Sabathia is still an effective starter precisely -because- he figured out he couldn't overpower hitters anymore.
 
2018-08-10 10:34:25 PM  

ClavellBCMI: When the mind is willing, but the body is saying "fark you, I'm too old for this shiat", maybe it is time to listen to what your body is trying to tell you (and Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature to be able to throw as hard as he did for as long as he did as effectively as he did).


BTW, look at Verlander.  Finally figured out his issues when his velocity was down, made an adjustment and now he's throwing mid-upper 90s again.

Felix could take some pointers from Justin.
 
2018-08-10 10:39:38 PM  

WrongTrousers: ClavellBCMI: When the mind is willing, but the body is saying "fark you, I'm too old for this shiat", maybe it is time to listen to what your body is trying to tell you (and Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature to be able to throw as hard as he did for as long as he did as effectively as he did).

Felix has been trying to still be the fireballing ace but his stuff has deserted him. He tops out in the low '90s these days and keeps trying to blow it by hitters. Until he figures out how to pitch offspeed-dominant, he needs to stay in the 'pen.


Isn't it always the case with guys who started in the majors as flame-throwers, they get to a certain age and you find out that while he was blowing them away throwing 98 on the gun, he's now throwing 93 and they're tattooing him.

The Bestest: CC Sabathia is still an effective starter precisely -because- he figured out he couldn't overpower hitters anymore.


I talked about Verlander earlier and CC's another example; finally came to the realization he couldn't throw 97-98 anymore so decided to change speeds and arm angles to make up for the diminished velocity.
 
2018-08-10 11:59:40 PM  

SkylineRecords: HoF chances? Discuss.


Nope. Not unless he somehow pulls off a solid second career, which appears highly unlikely at this point.

/big fan of the M's and Felix
 
2018-08-11 12:02:37 AM  

Rwa2play: WrongTrousers: ClavellBCMI: When the mind is willing, but the body is saying "fark you, I'm too old for this shiat", maybe it is time to listen to what your body is trying to tell you (and Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature to be able to throw as hard as he did for as long as he did as effectively as he did).

Felix has been trying to still be the fireballing ace but his stuff has deserted him. He tops out in the low '90s these days and keeps trying to blow it by hitters. Until he figures out how to pitch offspeed-dominant, he needs to stay in the 'pen.

Isn't it always the case with guys who started in the majors as flame-throwers, they get to a certain age and you find out that while he was blowing them away throwing 98 on the gun, he's now throwing 93 and they're tattooing him.

The Bestest: CC Sabathia is still an effective starter precisely -because- he figured out he couldn't overpower hitters anymore.

I talked about Verlander earlier and CC's another example; finally came to the realization he couldn't throw 97-98 anymore so decided to change speeds and arm angles to make up for the diminished velocity.


To be fair, Felix lost his high-90s stuff pretty early in his career and was sitting 93-95 at best for many years, including his Cy Young season. He adapted by developing the best changeup in the game. His velocity this year is about what it was three years ago, but he's clearly working harder for it, and his command is suffering.
 
2018-08-11 03:48:07 AM  

detonator: The Bestest: detonator: Dafatone: He just needs to go to the Astros.

BACK to the astros... I think the mariners got him in the Randy Johnson trade if I recall.
I always thought he cut or scuffed the ball. He has crazy movement when he's on, and doesn't have that anymore on his fastball.

Felix has only ever been in the Mariners system. You're thinking of Freddy Garcia, maybe?

I stand corrected, sir.


Incidentally, Freddy Garcia was the main reason Felix wanted to sign with the Mariners in the first place.
 
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