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vpb [TotalFark]
2018-08-09 01:48:19 PM  
Much of the interrogation focused on a demonic voice Cruz claims he has heard inside his head for years that urges him to commit violent acts.

That's just Wayne LaPierre.
 
2018-08-09 02:19:10 PM  
Crazy? I knew it. Nothing we could have done.

Thoughts and prayers.
More laws aren't the answer.
You can't do much about evil in the world.
Enforce the laws we have.
If only YouTube had made everyone carry a gun.
The press has no idea what an AR-15 looks like.
Gun free zones don't work.
There's no need to politicize this event.
Obama's coming for your guns.
God works in mysterious ways.
Guns don't kill people.
This is what happens when you don't let kids pray in school.
YouTube should just make all their walls clear plastic.
This proves those Parkland kids can't get anything done.

/How am I doing Wayne?
 
2018-08-09 02:55:23 PM  
There's crazy, and then there's MAGA crazy.
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2018-08-09 05:08:54 PM  
The gun is sane though.
 
2018-08-09 05:10:33 PM  
Cruz at one point early on, while alone in the interrogation room, says to himself "kill me" and "I want to die."

If only some psychotic, callous prick with a legally acquired AR-15 were around...
 
2018-08-09 05:10:53 PM  

edmo: Crazy? I knew it. Nothing we could have done.

Thoughts and prayers.
More laws aren't the answer.
You can't do much about evil in the world.
Enforce the laws we have.
If only YouTube had made everyone carry a gun.
The press has no idea what an AR-15 looks like.
Gun free zones don't work.
There's no need to politicize this event.
Obama's coming for your guns.
God works in mysterious ways.
Guns don't kill people.
This is what happens when you don't let kids pray in school.
YouTube should just make all their walls clear plastic.
This proves those Parkland kids can't get anything done.

/How am I doing Wayne?


Don't forget "if only people had been nicer to him!"
 
2018-08-09 05:14:26 PM  
That's fine but what are they doing about the real enemy - the Parkland kids and their March for Our Lives movement.

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2018-08-09 05:15:23 PM  

edmo: Crazy? I knew it. Nothing we could have done.

Thoughts and prayers.
More laws aren't the answer.
You can't do much about evil in the world.
Enforce the laws we have.
If only YouTube had made everyone carry a gun.
The press has no idea what an AR-15 looks like.
Gun free zones don't work.
There's no need to politicize this event.
Obama's coming for your guns.
God works in mysterious ways.
Guns don't kill people.
This is what happens when you don't let kids pray in school.
YouTube should just make all their walls clear plastic.
This proves those Parkland kids can't get anything done.

/How am I doing Wayne?


Also, no one has personal responsibility for their actions.
 
2018-08-09 05:17:55 PM  
Damn, my money was riding on a mentally stable, well-adjusted, financially-secure person. Oh, well. I'm sure it'll come up one of these days.
 
2018-08-09 05:19:05 PM  

vpb: Much of the interrogation focused on a demonic voice Cruz claims he has heard inside his head for years that urges him to commit violent acts.

That's just Wayne LaPierre.


I hear voices in my head, too.  But ignore them and just keep killing, instead.
 
2018-08-09 05:19:33 PM  
"he has long heard a voice or a demon in his head and that that voice told him to burn, kill and destroy"

Well, me too!  But I've always known that voice was mine and I just tell myself to shut up and everything's been fine so far.
 
2018-08-09 05:20:47 PM  
anustart:

TWENTY-EIGHT SECONDS, you murderous bastard!
 
2018-08-09 05:24:26 PM  
This was already posted and greenlighted earlier, but ill reiterate my statement there.

The more I see and hear of this kid, the less I hate on him for committing an unspeakable act and instead more and more see a fundamentally malfunctioning person failed by multiple systems and left with access to tools he should not have had access to.

Watching the video, the dude is clearly not well upstairs, he's young with little life experience, his father died when he was 5 or 6 and his mom died just after he turned 19, and didnt manage a high school diploma. That's a recipe for a person who does not have the ability to effectively manage their emotions and actions. This sounds like someone who needed direct guidance, discipline, oversight and structure to function like a normal person, and just didnt really get it in a meaningful way, with tragic results. I'm not sure there is a great answer, not everything or everyone can be fixed, not everything is in societies power to fix and often the attempts amount to little more than dressed up "out of sight out of mind" actions, but it's clear that something did not work here and directing hate at someone who doesn't have the ability to manage their thoughts seems...pointless.

Cruz did not lead a happy life and will never live a happy life. Neither will the 17 people he murdered. Hopefully it will illustrate that we need to pay more attention and employ a wider variety of tools when dealing with people with mental health issues, for everyone's sake.

My GF works with foster kids and sees kids like this all the time, and all too often its "keep them out of our hair until they're 18 when its no longer our job, then the penal system will inevitably take over at some point and we wont have to worry about it." Unfortunately in some cases they dont have the means to do anything else, in many others they don't have the will. Hopefully that changes.
 
2018-08-09 05:29:13 PM  

edmo: Crazy? I knew it. Nothing we could have done.

Thoughts and prayers.
More laws aren't the answer.
You can't do much about evil in the world.
Enforce the laws we have.
If only YouTube had made everyone carry a gun.
The press has no idea what an AR-15 looks like.
Gun free zones don't work.
There's no need to politicize this event.
Obama's coming for your guns.
God works in mysterious ways.
Guns don't kill people.
This is what happens when you don't let kids pray in school.
YouTube should just make all their walls clear plastic.
This proves those Parkland kids can't get anything done.

/How am I doing Wayne?


5/10. Needs more about Big Pharma and the Deep State.

For full marks, work in something about liberals closing the lunatic asylums and how the father could not be reached for comment.
 
2018-08-09 05:39:54 PM  
 
2018-08-09 06:00:52 PM  
He's faking it. Hang him. Even if a person is crazy, doesn't make his crimes any less serious. And why would the media give out information about this case? So the guy can't get a "fair" trial and then charges dropped?
 
2018-08-09 06:10:43 PM  
Well, at least we cut down on the school-to-prison pipeline.
 
2018-08-09 06:32:48 PM  
I like what Bith said.

Truth speaks over all bullshait
 
2018-08-09 06:48:58 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: "We know that the stigma of people who suffer from mental illness as scary, dangerous potential murderers hurts people every single day -- it costs people relationships and jobs, it scares people away from seeking help who need it, it brings shame and fear down on the heads of people who already have it bad enough.

But the media insists on trotting out 'mental illness' and blaring out that phrase nonstop in the wake of any mass killing. I had to grit my teeth every time I personally debated someone defaulting to the mindless mantra of 'The real issue is mental illness' over the Isla Vista shootings.

'The real issue is mental illness' is a goddamn cop-out. I almost never hear it from actual mental health professionals, or advocates working in the mental health sphere, or anyone who actually has any kind of informed opinion on mental health or serious policy proposals for how to improve our treatment of the mentally ill in this country."


This is all important and quite true.

But it is also true that there are very few safeguards in place to prevent the truly dangerous crazy people from acquiring the means to harm themselves or others.

No, we can't just blame mental illness for gun violence.  Yes, we can give health professionals the tools to help keep firearms away from dangerously deranged individuals.
 
2018-08-09 06:49:42 PM  
Pazuzu want MIIIIILK SHAAAAKE.
 
2018-08-09 06:50:54 PM  

vpb: Much of the interrogation focused on a demonic voice Cruz claims he has heard inside his head for years that urges him to commit violent acts.

That's just Wayne LaPierre.


Might be Lyndon LaRouche.
 
2018-08-09 07:00:55 PM  

anustart: This is all important and quite true.

But it is also true that there are very few safeguards in place to prevent the truly dangerous crazy people from acquiring the means to harm themselves or others.

No, we can't just blame mental illness for gun violence. Yes, we can give health professionals the tools to help keep firearms away from dangerously deranged individuals.


They have them.  Those tools are meaningless if the police don't actually follow through.  If the cops and FBI had done their jobs, and listened to the deafening cry of multiple people ringing alarm bells about him, this kid would have been prohibited from buying anything.  He'd probably have been involuntarily committed.  When people say "the existing laws would have prevented this if they were followed", in this case they are actually right.
 
2018-08-09 07:09:43 PM  
If the voice in his head could only have given him winning lottery numbers.
My imaginary friend says money won't make me happy...the jerk!!
 
2018-08-09 07:25:37 PM  

jaytkay: That's fine but what are they doing about the real enemy - the Parkland kids and their March for Our Lives movement.

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Attempting to tear them down at every opportunity after attempting to ignore them.

Oh you mean the ones that got propped up? I thought you were asking about what the left basically tried to do to the ones that didn't do what they wanted.
 
2018-08-09 07:28:46 PM  

edmo: Crazy? I knew it. Nothing we could have done.

Thoughts and prayers.
More laws aren't the answer.
You can't do much about evil in the world.
Enforce the laws we have.
If only YouTube had made everyone carry a gun.
The press has no idea what an AR-15 looks like.
Gun free zones don't work.
There's no need to politicize this event.
Obama's coming for your guns.
God works in mysterious ways.
Guns don't kill people.
This is what happens when you don't let kids pray in school.
YouTube should just make all their walls clear plastic.
This proves those Parkland kids can't get anything done.

/How am I doing Wayne?


Or, how about actually address the issue of the crazy kid instead of kicking the can down the road for the 15th, 16th, 17th time somebody reports him for being dangerous.

But no, let's ban the AR15 and make felons out of everyone who owns one, because that's a whole lot easier than actually having to figure out what to do about crazy people.
 
2018-08-09 07:34:01 PM  

zbtop: This was already posted and greenlighted earlier, but ill reiterate my statement there.

The more I see and hear of this kid, the less I hate on him for committing an unspeakable act and instead more and more see a fundamentally malfunctioning person failed by multiple systems and left with access to tools he should not have had access to.

Watching the video, the dude is clearly not well upstairs, he's young with little life experience, his father died when he was 5 or 6 and his mom died just after he turned 19, and didnt manage a high school diploma. That's a recipe for a person who does not have the ability to effectively manage their emotions and actions. This sounds like someone who needed direct guidance, discipline, oversight and structure to function like a normal person, and just didnt really get it in a meaningful way, with tragic results. I'm not sure there is a great answer, not everything or everyone can be fixed, not everything is in societies power to fix and often the attempts amount to little more than dressed up "out of sight out of mind" actions, but it's clear that something did not work here and directing hate at someone who doesn't have the ability to manage their thoughts seems...pointless.

Cruz did not lead a happy life and will never live a happy life. Neither will the 17 people he murdered. Hopefully it will illustrate that we need to pay more attention and employ a wider variety of tools when dealing with people with mental health issues, for everyone's sake.

My GF works with foster kids and sees kids like this all the time, and all too often its "keep them out of our hair until they're 18 when its no longer our job, then the penal system will inevitably take over at some point and we wont have to worry about it." Unfortunately in some cases they dont have the means to do anything else, in many others they don't have the will. Hopefully that changes.


You don't need to look at foster kids. Just look at your local high school. Same thing. You don't suspend, you don't expel, you don't arrest, because your Superintendent will be upset at you for ruining his %. You just grit your teeth and tell everyone else to do the same, maybe shuffle him around in classes a bit, until you can OT (Opportunity Transfer) him to another school or Age-Out his enrollment at 18.

I've been an educator for 20 years, and it's only gotten worse each her. More tests, less accountability.
 
2018-08-09 07:34:56 PM  

Deep Contact: The gun is sane though.


The US is near the top of the list of firearm-related death rates. The only countries worse than the US are anarchic shiatholes.The next worse first-world country, Finland, has 1/4 the death rate as the US. The UK, where handguns have been tightly controlled for the past 20 years, has one of the lowest firearm death rates in the world. So no, the US's obsession with firearms intended for killing people does not seem particularly sane.
 
2018-08-09 07:52:45 PM  

zbtop: This was already posted and greenlighted earlier, but ill reiterate my statement there.

The more I see and hear of this kid, the less I hate on him for committing an unspeakable act and instead more and more see a fundamentally malfunctioning person failed by multiple systems and left with access to tools he should not have had access to.

Watching the video, the dude is clearly not well upstairs, he's young with little life experience, his father died when he was 5 or 6 and his mom died just after he turned 19, and didnt manage a high school diploma. That's a recipe for a person who does not have the ability to effectively manage their emotions and actions. This sounds like someone who needed direct guidance, discipline, oversight and structure to function like a normal person, and just didnt really get it in a meaningful way, with tragic results. I'm not sure there is a great answer, not everything or everyone can be fixed, not everything is in societies power to fix and often the attempts amount to little more than dressed up "out of sight out of mind" actions, but it's clear that something did not work here and directing hate at someone who doesn't have the ability to manage their thoughts seems...pointless.

Cruz did not lead a happy life and will never live a happy life. Neither will the 17 people he murdered. Hopefully it will illustrate that we need to pay more attention and employ a wider variety of tools when dealing with people with mental health issues, for everyone's sake.

My GF works with foster kids and sees kids like this all the time, and all too often its "keep them out of our hair until they're 18 when its no longer our job, then the penal system will inevitably take over at some point and we wont have to worry about it." Unfortunately in some cases they dont have the means to do anything else, in many others they don't have the will. Hopefully that changes.


You said it, my friend.
 
2018-08-09 08:07:45 PM  

nytmare: Deep Contact: The gun is sane though.

The US is near the top of the list of firearm-related death rates. The only countries worse than the US are anarchic shiatholes.The next worse first-world country, Finland, has 1/4 the death rate as the US. The UK, where handguns have been tightly controlled for the past 20 years, has one of the lowest firearm death rates in the world. So no, the US's obsession with firearms intended for killing people does not seem particularly sane.


ignoring suicides, Finland doesn't have the sizable population of people living in abject poverty, receiving few social benefits, with a major lack of education, etc.  in fact, between 60 and 70% of our non-suicide gun-related violence, and violence in general, come from those very same areas, also plagued with significant rates of illegal drug sales, gang participation, and so on.  Studies and heat maps showing the data repeatedly confirm this.

Further, studies and results from violence intervention programs show that social programs intended to provide education, social support, and social education in these same areas, teaching people how to handle things nonviolently and getting them counciling and help have dramatic effects, seeing easily 40% drops in violent crime.

If we're going to have an honest conversation, then while we do need to do more to control guns, we cannot just assume that guns are the own problem, or really the precipitating factors. The facts are clear: we invest in the lives of the people most at risk, we invest in our communities, and we fight to rehabilitate instead of punish, we'll drop our own gun crime rates and violence numbers down much muh closer to those of Finland or other gun-friendly .eu countries.
 
2018-08-09 09:00:51 PM  
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2018-08-09 10:32:25 PM  

Weatherkiss: Damn, my money was riding on a mentally stable, well-adjusted, financially-secure person. Oh, well. I'm sure it'll come up one of these days.


Well, the Vegas gunman was well-off and showed no signs of mental disturbance prior..
 
2018-08-09 10:39:27 PM  

The Bestest: Weatherkiss: Damn, my money was riding on a mentally stable, well-adjusted, financially-secure person. Oh, well. I'm sure it'll come up one of these days.

Well, the Vegas gunman was well-off and showed no signs of mental disturbance prior..


speaking of which, we haven't heard much about the aftermath of that guy. It seems like a shiat ton of questions and no follow up.
 
2018-08-09 10:49:08 PM  

HumanSVD: The Bestest: Weatherkiss: Damn, my money was riding on a mentally stable, well-adjusted, financially-secure person. Oh, well. I'm sure it'll come up one of these days.

Well, the Vegas gunman was well-off and showed no signs of mental disturbance prior..

speaking of which, we haven't heard much about the aftermath of that guy. It seems like a shiat ton of questions and no follow up.


Last story I heard about that was the MGM Grand trying to countersue the victims.
 
2018-08-09 11:06:08 PM  
He said the voices are inside his head. That's the way to tell  he's faking it.

Real schizophrenics who hear audible hallucinations will say that the voice is coming from outside - over their shoulder, behind them, somewhere out of sight but within earshot.

If someone says they hear voices "inside" their head, they're either lying or they're talking about their own thoughts.
 
2018-08-09 11:47:41 PM  

The Bestest: Weatherkiss: Damn, my money was riding on a mentally stable, well-adjusted, financially-secure person. Oh, well. I'm sure it'll come up one of these days.

Well, the Vegas gunman was well-off and showed no signs of mental disturbance prior..


Didn't he end up being some kind of gambling addict that lost everything?
 
2018-08-10 07:17:04 AM  

HumanSVD: The Bestest: Weatherkiss: Damn, my money was riding on a mentally stable, well-adjusted, financially-secure person. Oh, well. I'm sure it'll come up one of these days.

Well, the Vegas gunman was well-off and showed no signs of mental disturbance prior..

speaking of which, we haven't heard much about the aftermath of that guy. It seems like a shiat ton of questions and no follow up.


From what I've read, the Vegas cops basically just dropped/closed out the investigation with a shrug and a "We have no idea why he did it."

There are bits and pieces that suggest something odd/weird, like stories of him rambling paranoid, ultra-right-wing crap prior to it and such, which might suggest they don't want to touch on the idea of ultra-right-wing radical Conservative Teahadis.  On the other hand, there're a lot of other very weird tidbits that were released/known about him that never got really followed up on, such as sending the girlfriend away, the large amount of cash he transferred into her account, and so on.

I think, unfortunately, the Vegas shooter is going to go down in the annals of history with a cloud over his head in the same vein as Lee Harvey Oswald/The Shooter on the Grassy Knoll, where there's an obvious, simple explanation (he was a psychopath/batshiat crazy), then there's just enough extraneous data to make it not 100% conclusive, and no satisfactory or really conclusive finding by the investigation to ward off conspiracy theories gaining some air of legitimacy.
 
2018-08-10 07:49:09 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: "We know that the stigma of people who suffer from mental illness as scary, dangerous potential murderers hurts people every single day -- it costs people relationships and jobs, it scares people away from seeking help who need it, it brings shame and fear down on the heads of people who already have it bad enough.

But the media insists on trotting out 'mental illness' and blaring out that phrase nonstop in the wake of any mass killing. I had to grit my teeth every time I personally debated someone defaulting to the mindless mantra of 'The real issue is mental illness' over the Isla Vista shootings.

'The real issue is mental illness' is a goddamn cop-out. I almost never hear it from actual mental health professionals, or advocates working in the mental health sphere, or anyone who actually has any kind of informed opinion on mental health or serious policy proposals for how to improve our treatment of the mentally ill in this country."


Por que no los dos?

Seriously, i think the issue is a correlation vs. causation thing.  You're right that just saying "it's a mental illness problem" is a cop-out because 'mental illness' is not a singular disease with a singular set of symptoms or associated behaviors.  So, I guess you could say, most of these shooters were mentally ill/had a mental illness or problem, but not all mentally ill people are dangerous or likely to be violent. Likewise, you cannot blame all mentally ill people for the behavior of a few people who do violent things and happen to be mentally ill/driven by their particular illness.

That being said, the evidence is pretty clear that many of the mass shooters that have come along have suffered from some form of mental illness that diminished their ability to function normally and rationally, compounded by a number of social factors such as abuse and familial problems.  They were people who suffered the right confluence of pain and illness and external stimuli which produced a violent result.  Sort of like a pit bull that's beaten, starved, and driven to be violent and aggressive through a number of factors leading to them to do something that in turn causes people to say "well, pit bulls are a dangerous/aggressive breed" and so on.

What I think needs to be recognized is that there is a mental health problem in this country, due to a whole host of reasons, and one of the outgrowths of that is some folks act out in violent ways based on the circumstances in their lives. And, I think that the mental health problem in this country should be focused on and addressed not because I think mental health is a cause of violence itself, but because addressing mental health problems as a whole will greatly improve the chances of identifying individuals who are mentally ill and potentially dangerous to themselves and others, and giving us a better way to catch them early and treat them.

The net result from such is a win-win: the mentally ill in general get the help they need to live a better life as a whole, and those who *are* violent, or at risk of becoming violent, are identified and helped/kept from having access to firearms or other dangerous objects, before they can act out. Likewise, it means that those of us who suffer from depression and/or a desire to kill ourselves might be identified and helped sooner and the rate of suicide in the US could be greatly reduced.

Combine this with addressing factors such as poverty and lack of education, racism, discrimination, and a host of other social factors that drive people to become violent or use violence as a means to solve a  problem, and we have a massive positive impact both on the drastic reduction in violent crime/gun deaths and on society as a whole becoming healthier and more functional.

And, yes, more gun control is also necessary. We need to make sure that people that are identified as a threat don't have access to guns. We can't do that, however, without clear and well-functioning mechanisms in place to identify and report those individuals so that they are known, which is presently one of the biggest flaws in our system.  "They were law abiding until they weren't" is a cop-out. Most of the people that do this sort of shiat, as we all are pretty aware, demonstrate violent or dangerous behavior and warning signs well before they act out on it, and the only reason they aren't prevented from getting firearms is because there's no functional and readily accessible means of identifying those people from the warning signs and turning that data into a hard stop on access to guns.

In other words/TL;DR:
1. Mental Illness as a whole is not a problem, but people who become violent are often suffering from some form of mental illness that combined with factors created violent behavior. We address mental illness as a whole, and we also address this subset.
2. Violence also comes from social pressures and conditions, such as poverty and lack of education driving crime as a means of survival. Address poverty and education and help out the people in the poorest areas of our cities/the country, drop violence dramatically.
3. Create proactive programs, with the requisite due process protections, that give law enforcement, families, and so on more power and ability to identify individuals who are a danger to themselves and others and take action in a way that will stop them from having access to weapons either temporarily or permanently and done in a way that is non-punitive.

I'm tired of listening to asshole gun owners who demand "muh freedoms" and take absolute stances on things because we all know that if they had a chance to block the Parkland, Vegas, or whatever shooter from getting guns, they'd take it in a minute.  We get it. You're afraid that these programs might be abused and turned into a tool by politically motivated people to take away your guns. I understand that fear.  But keep looking at Vegas, Sandy Hook, Parkland, etc., and ask yourself: what's more important to you? Reduced risk of some nebulous tyrant taking your guns, or a slightly increased risk you might be caught under programs designed to address violent behavior and dangerous people while providing a much, much higher rate of reduction in violence, death, and all the things that are absolutely abhorrent?

Personally, I've come to the conclusion that, yes, I'm a patriot. I will fight for my country and my rights, and I will never accept having liberties or freedoms revoked.  But I am also well aware of the fact that every citizen has a duty to their country and their community to help protect it (that whole Militia being necessary to the Security of a free state thing), and that means that we finally embrace "Well regulated" as what it is: "in proper order/good working condition". A militia, be it of all the people or not, cannot be in good working order or condition if there are members who are dangerous to themselves or their fellow countrymen, and who are like the farking Boot who can't manage to not throw a grenade in such a way that it ends up landing back in the squad.

So, suck it up, nancy. Put on your big boy/girl pannies and accept some goddamn responsibility. Those like the Vegas guy and Parkland Guy are the enemy. If you believe in defending your country from all enemies, foreign and domestic, then you have a job to do.

/too much coffee this morning.
//I'll probably get blasted from just about everyone, and might have my membership card in the Pan-Caliber Ammosexual Gun Fetishist Society revoked.
///Might even be called a traitor.
////Fark you. My 2A rights are important, but my convenience is not more valuable to me than innocent people's lives.
 
2018-08-10 07:53:39 AM  
Also, holy hell that was a long rant. I'm sorry to be so long winded, but with everything going on, the way things are looking with Trump and the assholes he's stirred up and the very real threat to people they pose, I'm absolutely sick and tired of making it easy on those who would kill other Americans. Again, my convenience is not worth the lives of innocent people.

That's why I support mandatory training. That's why I support requiring a (reasonably inexpensive and short, but comprehensive) training class in order to obtain a concealed carry permit. That's why I support putting "Assault Weapons" on the NFA (with reasonable efforts made to reduce the time it takes them to process a goddamn tax stamp). That's why I support/would personally like to see the Militia being given some responsibilities, like requirement to obtain training as a first responder and register with your local police as a volunteer to be called out when they need help securing an event or doing search and rescue or whatever.

We're grown-ass adults and we live in a society where no matter where you are, you rely on someone else for something and have to work together with them to survive. Time to start taking some farking responsibility and step up.
 
2018-08-10 08:01:28 AM  
Also, fark me, I've turn into a pro-gun-control, gun-grabbing libby-liberal. *shakes tiny fist*
 
2018-08-10 08:20:40 AM  
How come psychos never hear voices that tell them to buy people ice cream?
 
2018-08-10 12:28:22 PM  

The Bestest: HumanSVD: The Bestest: Weatherkiss: Damn, my money was riding on a mentally stable, well-adjusted, financially-secure person. Oh, well. I'm sure it'll come up one of these days.

Well, the Vegas gunman was well-off and showed no signs of mental disturbance prior..

speaking of which, we haven't heard much about the aftermath of that guy. It seems like a shiat ton of questions and no follow up.

Last story I heard about that was the MGM Grand trying to countersue the victims.


MGM is in CYA mode. Disgusting but I expected nothing less from Casinos.
 
2018-08-10 01:57:19 PM  

HumanSVD: The Bestest: HumanSVD: The Bestest: Weatherkiss: Damn, my money was riding on a mentally stable, well-adjusted, financially-secure person. Oh, well. I'm sure it'll come up one of these days.

Well, the Vegas gunman was well-off and showed no signs of mental disturbance prior..

speaking of which, we haven't heard much about the aftermath of that guy. It seems like a shiat ton of questions and no follow up.

Last story I heard about that was the MGM Grand trying to countersue the victims.

MGM is in CYA mode. Disgusting but I expected nothing less from Casinos.


Just CYA?  What happened to Magenta?
 
2018-08-10 02:40:24 PM  
Very well put Kit.  I couldnt agree more
 
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  4. Click here to submit a link.

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