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2018-08-09 12:08:24 PM  
Holy fire, you're the star of the masquerade!
No need to look so afraid.
 
2018-08-09 12:28:32 PM  
Always fear the cleric... they can keep you alive or smash you into pieces.

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2018-08-09 06:52:44 PM  
Gonna require an UNholy amount of water to put that puppy out.
 
2018-08-09 06:55:06 PM  
CODzilla is still alive and well, in spite of 5e trying to nerf it.
 
2018-08-09 06:55:45 PM  
more like 9,000 acres
 
2018-08-09 06:57:22 PM  

meatofmystery: more like 9,000 acres


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The wildfire, which erupted Monday in the Trabuco Canyon area and burned across the Riverside County line, exploded to 9,614 acres overnight and remained just 5 percent contained, according to the Cleveland National Forest Service update.
 
2018-08-09 07:03:00 PM  
He reportedly has had conflicts with his neighbors for years and sent an email warning, "This place will burn" to a volunteer fire chief last week.

Protip:  When committing arson for revenge, don't send a confession to the authorities before your act.  I feel like this should be something that goes without saying.
 
2018-08-09 07:11:24 PM  
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2018-08-09 07:11:49 PM  
i'm starting to adopt the whole "if you commit arson and start a f*cking wildfire, you're on the front lines with no water until it's out" mindset
 
2018-08-09 07:13:24 PM  
I'm going to let something slip here that should terrify anyone in the forested West. Sooner or later a terrorist group ( odds are it will be domestic right-wingers ) will start multiple fires simultaneously in an attempt to destroy as much property and as many lives as possible. Ten maniacs with cell phones and pyrotechnic devices could wait for the right conditions and cause a violent conflagration. The Japanese in WW2 attempted to do this with balloon bombs and that knowledge is common to terrorists. I do hope I'm not the only one to have thought this possible and I hope some of those folks are working in the many national security parts of our government. With this administration I seriously doubt that -- they're too worried about illegal immigrant children and how further to torment and torture them.

/ One scraping car wheel sparked death in Redding.
 
2018-08-09 07:13:25 PM  
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2018-08-09 07:13:37 PM  
I guess Sheriffs don't take regular fitness exams. The officer on the video thumbnail looks like he's half a donut away from taking the big Resisting Arrest.
 
2018-08-09 07:19:58 PM  
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unsure of his level but he does have a way with his sword
 
2018-08-09 07:20:21 PM  
If he is found guilty then make an example out of him. No cruel or unusual punishment, just some good old fashioned forced labor all day every day.
 
2018-08-09 07:27:23 PM  
Here's the view from my office on the afternoon that it started:
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Here it is about 2 minutes ago.  The little white thing in the middle is one of the spotter plains flying around the smoke and trying to find the actual fire so he can lead the big plane full of retardant to it:
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You can only catch glimpses of the fire line here and there when the smoke blows out of the way for a few seconds:
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2018-08-09 07:31:28 PM  
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2018-08-09 07:41:55 PM  
I hope there's a little more than a non-specific comment in an email and the location of his house.
 
2018-08-09 07:45:23 PM  
I buffed a barbarian with energy resistance fire once against a GM who liked his gimmick clerics.  He didn't like that
 
2018-08-09 07:54:43 PM  

doomjesse: meatofmystery: more like 9,000 acres

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The wildfire, which erupted Monday in the Trabuco Canyon area and burned across the Riverside County line, exploded to 9,614 acres overnight and remained just 5 percent contained, according to the Cleveland National Forest Service update.


Find a better source.  Cleveland lights its rivers on fire not its forests
 
2018-08-09 07:59:28 PM  
And a tweet from Trump blames it on the EPA for not supplying enough water.

What a farking useless clown.
 
2018-08-09 08:23:42 PM  

morg: I hope there's a little more than a non-specific comment in an email and the location of his house.


From the reports it sounds like they're saying:

He acts erratically, possible history of mental illness.
He sent emails threatening the community where the fire started. Mentioned burning specifically.
This was the culmination of a decade of feuding.
A week or less later, the fire started. The details apparently suggested arson.
Of the 14 cabins his was the only one not destroyed.
He threatened firefighters with a sword while they were fighting the fire.
Bonus: he resisted arrest when they came to get him.

Given everything else reported about this guy, if he did it then I would be shocked if he kept his mouth shut and didn't incriminate the Holy Fark out of himself when questioned.
 
2018-08-09 08:23:44 PM  

alienated: [img.fark.net image 480x249]

unsure of his level but he does have a way with his sword


Not a cleric, the tend to not be proficient with blades or Martial weapons.
 
2018-08-09 08:26:24 PM  

BlazeTrailer: doomjesse: meatofmystery: more like 9,000 acres

Keep going...

The wildfire, which erupted Monday in the Trabuco Canyon area and burned across the Riverside County line, exploded to 9,614 acres overnight and remained just 5 percent contained, according to the Cleveland National Forest Service update.

Find a better source.  Cleveland lights its rivers on fire not its forests


Forrest's are to easy to ignite. Lighting a river afire takes commitment, do you have any idea how much petrochemical byproduct you have to dump in a river for it to become combustible?
 
2018-08-09 08:34:21 PM  

CrazyCurt: I'm going to let something slip here that should terrify anyone in the forested West. Sooner or later a terrorist group ( odds are it will be domestic right-wingers ) will start multiple fires simultaneously in an attempt to destroy as much property and as many lives as possible. Ten maniacs with cell phones and pyrotechnic devices could wait for the right conditions and cause a violent conflagration. The Japanese in WW2 attempted to do this with balloon bombs and that knowledge is common to terrorists. I do hope I'm not the only one to have thought this possible and I hope some of those folks are working in the many national security parts of our government. With this administration I seriously doubt that -- they're too worried about illegal immigrant children and how further to torment and torture them.

/ One scraping car wheel sparked death in Redding.


Yeah right Wingers. That's some bullshiat and you know it
 
2018-08-09 08:48:18 PM  
Oh man... an out of control wildfire would be one hell of an adventure hook.
 
2018-08-09 08:49:02 PM  

CrazyCurt: I'm going to let something slip here that should terrify anyone in the forested West. Sooner or later a terrorist group ( odds are it will be domestic right-wingers ) will start multiple fires simultaneously in an attempt to destroy as much property and as many lives as possible. Ten maniacs with cell phones and pyrotechnic devices could wait for the right conditions and cause a violent conflagration. The Japanese in WW2 attempted to do this with balloon bombs and that knowledge is common to terrorists. I do hope I'm not the only one to have thought this possible and I hope some of those folks are working in the many national security parts of our government. With this administration I seriously doubt that -- they're too worried about illegal immigrant children and how further to torment and torture them.

/ One scraping car wheel sparked death in Redding.


I was a regular camper at Whiskey Town camp ground.  Even had part 1 of my honey moon there.  Three of the best weeks I've ever had.  Was planning to take my boys on their first camping trip to Whiskey town.  All gone now.  My heart sank as we watched the fire destroy everything in that gorgeous area.
 
2018-08-09 08:51:18 PM  

Maxor: alienated: [img.fark.net image 480x249]

unsure of his level but he does have a way with his sword

Not a cleric, the tend to not be proficient with blades or Martial weapons.


sigh.
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/T​h​oros
I am not saying you should read or watch tv, but hells bells- its right there in the name- he is the Red Priest with a flaming bloody sword ....
 
2018-08-09 08:54:56 PM  

Maxor: alienated: [img.fark.net image 480x249]

unsure of his level but he does have a way with his sword

Not a cleric, the tend to not be proficient with blades or Martial weapons.


Hellloooo? War Domain?!?

/I need a new hobby.
 
2018-08-09 08:56:33 PM  

happydude45: CrazyCurt: I'm going to let something slip here that should terrify anyone in the forested West. Sooner or later a terrorist group ( odds are it will be domestic right-wingers ) will start multiple fires simultaneously in an attempt to destroy as much property and as many lives as possible. Ten maniacs with cell phones and pyrotechnic devices could wait for the right conditions and cause a violent conflagration. The Japanese in WW2 attempted to do this with balloon bombs and that knowledge is common to terrorists. I do hope I'm not the only one to have thought this possible and I hope some of those folks are working in the many national security parts of our government. With this administration I seriously doubt that -- they're too worried about illegal immigrant children and how further to torment and torture them.

/ One scraping car wheel sparked death in Redding.

Yeah right Wingers. That's some bullshiat and you know it


Uh huh. No RW assholes have ever resorted to arson.
 
2018-08-09 09:00:46 PM  

RyansPrivates: Maxor: alienated: [img.fark.net image 480x249]

unsure of his level but he does have a way with his sword

Not a cleric, the tend to not be proficient with blades or Martial weapons.

Hellloooo? War Domain?!?

/I need a new hobby.


OR you can just double-down on your current hobby.

\Play female dwarf life cleric
\\here to bash foes and heal my friends
 
2018-08-09 09:12:59 PM  
The ranger or druid, whoever forest walks there, should have rolled for higher saves. Just sayin.
 
2018-08-09 09:29:05 PM  

happydude45: CrazyCurt: I'm going to let something slip here that should terrify anyone in the forested West. Sooner or later a terrorist group ( odds are it will be domestic right-wingers ) will start multiple fires simultaneously in an attempt to destroy as much property and as many lives as possible. Ten maniacs with cell phones and pyrotechnic devices could wait for the right conditions and cause a violent conflagration. The Japanese in WW2 attempted to do this with balloon bombs and that knowledge is common to terrorists. I do hope I'm not the only one to have thought this possible and I hope some of those folks are working in the many national security parts of our government. With this administration I seriously doubt that -- they're too worried about illegal immigrant children and how further to torment and torture them.

/ One scraping car wheel sparked death in Redding.

Yeah right Wingers. That's some bullshiat and you know it


Well there's the FBI but that dates to when they were *gasp* under Comey and Obama. Considering your past Comments of sheer Derpitude on fark ( you're notorious, get a life or return to 8Chan/incel plzkthxbye ) I'm going to guess that data would be ignored, as you would this from Snopes. Obvious Soros agiprop to the greatly woke! Nor will you believe this from Politifact, a fake news source run by nasty pizza shop owners with secrets only Q knows and such great minds as yours are baking the truth. Go with it, bro, keep it short and stupid, late for the gym bro bro or waxin' the jeep, as the kids call it these days.

/ Con Dupes, can't live with 'em, can't live with 'em. It needs saying twice.
 
2018-08-09 09:32:34 PM  
Bloody fark links and their farkiness. This and this.

/ Contact with Derp leads to mistakes, even if it's distant interaction via electrons.
 
2018-08-09 09:35:36 PM  
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2018-08-09 09:36:26 PM  

Lipspinach: happydude45: CrazyCurt: I'm going to let something slip here that should terrify anyone in the forested West. Sooner or later a terrorist group ( odds are it will be domestic right-wingers ) will start multiple fires simultaneously in an attempt to destroy as much property and as many lives as possible. Ten maniacs with cell phones and pyrotechnic devices could wait for the right conditions and cause a violent conflagration. The Japanese in WW2 attempted to do this with balloon bombs and that knowledge is common to terrorists. I do hope I'm not the only one to have thought this possible and I hope some of those folks are working in the many national security parts of our government. With this administration I seriously doubt that -- they're too worried about illegal immigrant children and how further to torment and torture them.

/ One scraping car wheel sparked death in Redding.

Yeah right Wingers. That's some bullshiat and you know it

Uh huh. No RW assholes have ever resorted to arson.


Say, were there some guys in Oregon who lit fires to hide their poaching, screamed "Muhrica Freedom Guns", got convicted and imprisoned and then pardoned by the world's worst orange shiatstain on Twitter? NAHHHHH!!!!!

/ Someone remembers the real stuff besides me!
 
2018-08-09 09:38:03 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Here's the view from my office on the afternoon that it started:
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Here it is about 2 minutes ago.  The little white thing in the middle is one of the spotter plains flying around the smoke and trying to find the actual fire so he can lead the big plane full of retardant to it:
[img.fark.net image 640x480]

You can only catch glimpses of the fire line here and there when the smoke blows out of the way for a few seconds:
[img.fark.net image 640x480]


Stay safe Fark friend.

/ scary stuff.
 
2018-08-09 09:52:46 PM  

CrazyCurt: happydude45: CrazyCurt: I'm going to let something slip here that should terrify anyone in the forested West. Sooner or later a terrorist group ( odds are it will be domestic right-wingers ) will start multiple fires simultaneously in an attempt to destroy as much property and as many lives as possible. Ten maniacs with cell phones and pyrotechnic devices could wait for the right conditions and cause a violent conflagration. The Japanese in WW2 attempted to do this with balloon bombs and that knowledge is common to terrorists. I do hope I'm not the only one to have thought this possible and I hope some of those folks are working in the many national security parts of our government. With this administration I seriously doubt that -- they're too worried about illegal immigrant children and how further to torment and torture them.

/ One scraping car wheel sparked death in Redding.

Yeah right Wingers. That's some bullshiat and you know it

Well there's the FBI but that dates to when they were *gasp* under Comey and Obama. Considering your past Comments of sheer Derpitude on fark ( you're notorious, get a life or return to 8Chan/incel plzkthxbye ) I'm going to guess that data would be ignored, as you would this from Snopes. Obvious Soros agiprop to the greatly woke! Nor will you believe this from Politifact, a fake news source run by nasty pizza shop owners with secrets only Q knows and such great minds as yours are baking the truth. Go with it, bro, keep it short and stupid, late for the gym bro bro or waxin' the jeep, as the kids call it these days.

/ Con Dupes, can't live with 'em, can't live with 'em. It needs saying twice.


Username checks out
 
2018-08-09 10:08:02 PM  
This fire makes me think that perhaps some eyes should be on the off-gridders because some of those guys are blatantly nuts.

Did the nut mention something about an HOA? There with widely scattered cabins and lots of forest and weeds? I liked it when he said he had not slept for 20 days. He'd either be dead if that happened or absolutely psychotic.

Well, .... he seems already psychotic.
 
2018-08-09 11:26:53 PM  

Rik01: This fire makes me think that perhaps some eyes should be on the off-gridders because some of those guys are blatantly nuts.

Did the nut mention something about an HOA? There with widely scattered cabins and lots of forest and weeds? I liked it when he said he had not slept for 20 days. He'd either be dead if that happened or absolutely psychotic.

Well, .... he seems already psychotic.


Thankfully, thanks to a new law under AB1810 codified in Penal Code section 1001.36, http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fac​e​s/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNu​m=1001.36&lawCode=PEN, if he has a qualifying mental illness that is a significant role in the offense and who would benefit from treatment, he could be given diversion and after 2 years of treatment the case would be dismissed and sealed without owing any restitution. Pyromania would be a qualifying condition along side the usual suspects of Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar disorder. This law can be used on any offense including murder, rape, or in this case arson as long as the criteria is met.  It just went into effect a couple months ago and although they may be amending it, right now, there are no restrictions or limitations on its use.
 
2018-08-09 11:54:09 PM  

Daedalus27: Rik01: This fire makes me think that perhaps some eyes should be on the off-gridders because some of those guys are blatantly nuts.

Did the nut mention something about an HOA? There with widely scattered cabins and lots of forest and weeds? I liked it when he said he had not slept for 20 days. He'd either be dead if that happened or absolutely psychotic.

Well, .... he seems already psychotic.

Thankfully, thanks to a new law under AB1810 codified in Penal Code section 1001.36, http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face​s/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNu​m=1001.36&lawCode=PEN, if he has a qualifying mental illness that is a significant role in the offense and who would benefit from treatment, he could be given diversion and after 2 years of treatment the case would be dismissed and sealed without owing any restitution. Pyromania would be a qualifying condition along side the usual suspects of Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar disorder. This law can be used on any offense including murder, rape, or in this case arson as long as the criteria is met.  It just went into effect a couple months ago and although they may be amending it, right now, there are no restrictions or limitations on its use.


Good luck satisfying a court "that the defendant will not pose an unreasonable risk of danger to public safety,... if treated in the community" when the defendant is being prosecuted for torching his entire community and everything within miles around it.

/I'd think approximately zero chance of this guy getting diverted
//unless maybe a judge is in the market for a spectacular career suicide
 
2018-08-10 01:17:30 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: //unless maybe a judge is in the market for a spectacular career suicide


The one word that could fark it all up: stiggin' it. If only all of Cali were blue. . . 

We're a good ways from the fire and it's turned our skies as dark as if it were an eclipse. A similarly weird dark too. I couldn't see the mountains driving up the 14 to Lancaster today and it was creepy as fark.
 
2018-08-10 03:40:13 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Daedalus27: Rik01: This fire makes me think that perhaps some eyes should be on the off-gridders because some of those guys are blatantly nuts.

Did the nut mention something about an HOA? There with widely scattered cabins and lots of forest and weeds? I liked it when he said he had not slept for 20 days. He'd either be dead if that happened or absolutely psychotic.

Well, .... he seems already psychotic.

Thankfully, thanks to a new law under AB1810 codified in Penal Code section 1001.36, http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face​s/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNu​m=1001.36&lawCode=PEN, if he has a qualifying mental illness that is a significant role in the offense and who would benefit from treatment, he could be given diversion and after 2 years of treatment the case would be dismissed and sealed without owing any restitution. Pyromania would be a qualifying condition along side the usual suspects of Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar disorder. This law can be used on any offense including murder, rape, or in this case arson as long as the criteria is met.  It just went into effect a couple months ago and although they may be amending it, right now, there are no restrictions or limitations on its use.

Good luck satisfying a court "that the defendant will not pose an unreasonable risk of danger to public safety,... if treated in the community" when the defendant is being prosecuted for torching his entire community and everything within miles around it.

/I'd think approximately zero chance of this guy getting diverted
//unless maybe a judge is in the market for a spectacular career suicide


He gets on medication and gets some treatment in jail, they come up with a plan, it may not be as big a hurdle as you think. Certainly not high probability, but the behavior is odd enough to where there is an argument to be made.
 
2018-08-10 09:37:51 AM  

CrazyCurt: happydude45: CrazyCurt: I'm going to let something slip here that should terrify anyone in the forested West. Sooner or later a terrorist group ( odds are it will be domestic right-wingers ) will start multiple fires simultaneously in an attempt to destroy as much property and as many lives as possible. Ten maniacs with cell phones and pyrotechnic devices could wait for the right conditions and cause a violent conflagration. The Japanese in WW2 attempted to do this with balloon bombs and that knowledge is common to terrorists. I do hope I'm not the only one to have thought this possible and I hope some of those folks are working in the many national security parts of our government. With this administration I seriously doubt that -- they're too worried about illegal immigrant children and how further to torment and torture them.

/ One scraping car wheel sparked death in Redding.

Yeah right Wingers. That's some bullshiat and you know it

Well there's the FBI but that dates to when they were *gasp* under Comey and Obama. Considering your past Comments of sheer Derpitude on fark ( you're notorious, get a life or return to 8Chan/incel plzkthxbye ) I'm going to guess that data would be ignored, as you would this from Snopes. Obvious Soros agiprop to the greatly woke! Nor will you believe this from Politifact, a fake news source run by nasty pizza shop owners with secrets only Q knows and such great minds as yours are baking the truth. Go with it, bro, keep it short and stupid, late for the gym bro bro or waxin' the jeep, as the kids call it these days.

/ Con Dupes, can't live with 'em, can't live with 'em. It needs saying twice.


Dude, whatever you're on isn't working
 
2018-08-11 08:35:01 AM  

Daedalus27: Rik01: This fire makes me think that perhaps some eyes should be on the off-gridders because some of those guys are blatantly nuts.

Did the nut mention something about an HOA? There with widely scattered cabins and lots of forest and weeds? I liked it when he said he had not slept for 20 days. He'd either be dead if that happened or absolutely psychotic.

Well, .... he seems already psychotic.

Thankfully, thanks to a new law under AB1810 codified in Penal Code section 1001.36, http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face​s/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNu​m=1001.36&lawCode=PEN, if he has a qualifying mental illness that is a significant role in the offense and who would benefit from treatment, he could be given diversion and after 2 years of treatment the case would be dismissed and sealed without owing any restitution. Pyromania would be a qualifying condition along side the usual suspects of Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar disorder. This law can be used on any offense including murder, rape, or in this case arson as long as the criteria is met.  It just went into effect a couple months ago and although they may be amending it, right now, there are no restrictions or limitations on its use.


Been saying since this started that the guy who started it is gunning for a life in Patton State Hospital. He will get off on insanity, guaranteed. I'ved lived in SoCal my entire life. My parents currently live in Riverside, and while their neighborhood is under no danger of burning down, my 65 year old mom is a recovering cancer patient who is dealing with the horrible air quality and stress of having to breathe smoke from this. This may be "liberal California", but even as Mr. Grant deserves worse, he *will* spend most of, if not the rest of his life in the nuthouse.

/my aunt works at Patton State Hospital
/my cancer survivor mom is breathing his smoke
/batshiat nutcases don't deserve better
 
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