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2018-08-09 11:32:39 AM  
They're pets, not service animals. I'm all for allowing the kid to keep his pets since it sounds like they're in an area where ducks/geese/etc are common anyway, but we need to stop diluting the definition of what a service animal is.
 
2018-08-09 12:12:42 PM  
People are so damn touchy about this stuff. I politely told my neighbor the other day to please make sure his service baboon stayed on his property and not near my driveway, and all he did was tell me to stop calling his wife that.
 
2018-08-09 01:29:41 PM  
I work in the airline industry, and Emotional Support Animals are becoming a joke and a constant headache. Anyone these days can get a doctor to proclaim that you need an animal to make you feel better.

While I feel this boy's pets are no threat to anyone, we need to come up with a set up guidelines or just drop the whole issue.

Right now, airlines have restricted it to only small dogs and cats after a rash of people trying for support peacocks, etc.
 
2018-08-09 04:38:43 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: I work in the airline industry, and Emotional Support Animals are becoming a joke and a constant headache. Anyone these days can get a doctor to proclaim that you need an animal to make you feel better.

While I feel this boy's pets are no threat to anyone, we need to come up with a set up guidelines or just drop the whole issue.

Right now, airlines have restricted it to only small dogs and cats after a rash of people trying for support peacocks, etc.


How do you handle miniature horses (the things other than dogs that can legally qualify, no questions asked)?  Demand a ticket because they can't fit anywhere else?
 
2018-08-09 04:39:02 PM  

Cagey B: People are so damn touchy about this stuff. I politely told my neighbor the other day to please make sure his service baboon stayed on his property and not near my driveway, and all he did was tell me to stop calling his wife that.


take her wife a bunch of bananas as a peace offering.
 
2018-08-09 04:42:36 PM  
Get the kid a computer, he can be a programmer
 
2018-08-09 04:43:06 PM  

vudukungfu: Cagey B: People are so damn touchy about this stuff. I politely told my neighbor the other day to please make sure his service baboon stayed on his property and not near my driveway, and all he did was tell me to stop calling his wife that.

take her wife a bunch of bananas as a peace offering.


Complement her on her big bright red ass?
 
2018-08-09 04:43:28 PM  
"Emotional support animals" are not service animals.

Service animals are trained and certified to perform their service.  Emotional support animals are just whatever random animal gives you comfort.

A seeing eye dog is a service animal.  A pot-bellied pig that detects and warns of an inclement seizure is a service animal.

If petting a kitten makes you feel better, great, but that doesn't make the kitten a service animal.
 
2018-08-09 04:45:10 PM  
Do they go to school with him? Out in the public with him in resteraunts and stuff?  Just home? Pet.
 
2018-08-09 04:45:36 PM  
I demand to bring my emotional support honey badger on this airplane and we don't give a fark what you think about it.
 
2018-08-09 04:46:48 PM  
As service animals go, ducks aren't really all they're quacked up to be.
 
2018-08-09 04:47:05 PM  
Oh yeah, I'm sure local property values are massively affected by a couple extra ducks hanging out by the lake.
 
2018-08-09 04:47:35 PM  
I want a service pterodactyl
 
2018-08-09 04:48:58 PM  
Don't you say bad things about support animals! My service baboon provides emotion support! If my baboon isn't allowed to shiat on the Starbucks floor how am I supposed to combat my social anxiety while eating? You're just being discriminatory against people with totally legitimate reasons to violate rules about farm animals in public restaurants!
 
2018-08-09 04:50:57 PM  

Cagey B: People are so damn touchy about this stuff. I politely told my neighbor the other day to please make sure his service baboon stayed on his property and not near my driveway, and all he did was tell me to stop calling his wife that.



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2018-08-09 04:52:47 PM  
If the kid needs a duck after a hard day of school maybe school would be a lot easier if the kids weren't calling him the duck kid? Also if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic" and is probably more socially awkward which I am sure hugging ducks isn't helping.
 
2018-08-09 04:52:53 PM  

WickerNipple: Oh yeah, I'm sure local property values are massively affected by a couple extra ducks hanging out by the lake.


Nobody thought to interview the neighbors for the story, but my suspicion is that ducks in the yard is different than ducks by the lake. As someone who got an urban apartment only to find that my neighbor kept a goddamn rooster in the third floor apartment directly across from me, birds in close proximity can be noisy at inconvenient times of the day. And I'm imagining that cleaning up after ducks that are hanging out near the house isn't the highest of priorities for these folks.
 
2018-08-09 04:54:38 PM  
So people won't mind if I bring my service $20 crack whore to the movies then.
 
2018-08-09 04:57:03 PM  
Veterans can be just as bad with their "service" dogs that I watch growl at people and bite at other dogs.

I am getting ready to move and was told it would be hard to find an apartment since I have an American Bully and  it's an aggressive breed so I should just get her registered as my emotional support animal and then I can move her wherever and no one can say anything. Which just feels wrong since I do support actual service animals for people that need them
 
2018-08-09 04:58:57 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Don't you say bad things about support animals! My service baboon provides emotion support! If my baboon isn't allowed to shiat on the Starbucks floor how am I supposed to combat my social anxiety while eating? You're just being discriminatory against people with totally legitimate reasons to violate rules about farm animals in public restaurants!


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2018-08-09 05:00:54 PM  

RTOGUY: if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic"


But you're certainly an "expert".
 
2018-08-09 05:01:59 PM  
I don't mind therapy animals if the owner of the therapy animal actually bothers to train the pet to be a decent pet.  While the sample size is small, I've seen a few unhappy quivering, fearful, aggressive, yappy, fluffy balls of neurosis, masquerading as therapy animals.  I've also seen some happy well adjusted dogs that respond to commands and provide emotional support for seniors and such.
 
2018-08-09 05:06:11 PM  
Anyone else bringing a emotional support call girl with them at the next Fark party?
 
2018-08-09 05:06:24 PM  

snoopy2zero: Veterans can be just as bad with their "service" dogs that I watch growl at people and bite at other dogs.

I am getting ready to move and was told it would be hard to find an apartment since I have an American Bully and  it's an aggressive breed so I should just get her registered as my emotional support animal and then I can move her wherever and no one can say anything. Which just feels wrong since I do support actual service animals for people that need them


That's kind of a running joke in my town, not a lot of pet friendly rentals so nearly everyone that's renting and has an animal has an "emotional support animal". A friend of mine recently got into an argument with his girlfriend because she paid someone online for "registration papers" instead of letting him just photoshop his own that would have been just as valid.
 
2018-08-09 05:07:39 PM  
Ducks are loud. If you own ducks in a residential neighborhood, you're a self-centered piece of garbage. I would LOVE to own ducks, but as I live in a residential neighborhood and do not wish to be a self-centered piece of garbage to my neighbors, I do not. This little turd's neighbors shouldn't have to suffer because of him. Find a different animal you enjoy Lenny-ing to death, snowflake.
 
2018-08-09 05:11:11 PM  

pete85: RTOGUY: if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic"

But you're certainly an "expert".


Everyone is a expert when it comes to autism. If you want me to tell you that you kid has autism, just give me $100 and I got you.
 
2018-08-09 05:32:22 PM  

NeoCortex42: They're pets, not service animals. I'm all for allowing the kid to keep his pets since it sounds like they're in an area where ducks/geese/etc are common anyway, but we need to stop diluting the definition of what a service animal is.


This.
 
2018-08-09 05:35:30 PM  

RTOGUY: If the kid needs a duck after a hard day of school maybe school would be a lot easier if the kids weren't calling him the duck kid? Also if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic" and is probably more socially awkward which I am sure hugging ducks isn't helping.


Educate yourself, ape.

drjekel_mrhyde: pete85: RTOGUY: if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic"

But you're certainly an "expert".

Everyone is a expert when it comes to autism. If you want me to tell you that you kid has autism, just give me $100 and I got you.


You too.
 
2018-08-09 05:41:41 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: RTOGUY: If the kid needs a duck after a hard day of school maybe school would be a lot easier if the kids weren't calling him the duck kid? Also if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic" and is probably more socially awkward which I am sure hugging ducks isn't helping.

Educate yourself, ape.

drjekel_mrhyde: pete85: RTOGUY: if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic"

But you're certainly an "expert".

Everyone is a expert when it comes to autism. If you want me to tell you that you kid has autism, just give me $100 and I got you.

You too.


Someone steal your duck aspie?
 
2018-08-09 05:42:01 PM  
Quack!
Why do people insist on having neighbors in the first place? Buy a farm and fill it with ducks.
 
2018-08-09 05:44:32 PM  

RTOGUY: common sense is an oxymoron: RTOGUY: If the kid needs a duck after a hard day of school maybe school would be a lot easier if the kids weren't calling him the duck kid? Also if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic" and is probably more socially awkward which I am sure hugging ducks isn't helping.

Educate yourself, ape.

drjekel_mrhyde: pete85: RTOGUY: if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic"

But you're certainly an "expert".

Everyone is a expert when it comes to autism. If you want me to tell you that you kid has autism, just give me $100 and I got you.

You too.

Someone steal your duck aspie?


Clever, edgelord.
 
2018-08-09 05:48:16 PM  
I'm waiting for someone trying to bring an emotional support hippopotamus onboard a Boeing 737.
 
2018-08-09 05:51:07 PM  

Some Random Jerk On The Internet: I live in a residential neighborhood and do not wish to be a self-centered piece of garbage


Too late!
 
2018-08-09 05:51:30 PM  

bigdog1960: Get the kid a computer, he can be a programmer


Drop a box of toothpicks and see if he knows how many hit the floor.
 
2018-08-09 05:55:55 PM  
What kind of heartless douchebag complains about this?  They live on a lake and they're complaining about ducks?  They're not hurting anyone and they're helping the kid deal.   I'd want to punch those complainers in the throat.
 
2018-08-09 05:57:14 PM  

Matthew Keene: I'm waiting for someone trying to bring an emotional support hippopotamus onboard a Boeing 737.


Does this count ?
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2018-08-09 06:01:28 PM  
Some fun things to do with service dogs,(in ways that don't hurt the animal,) :

Ask if you can pet them. If you are told yes, that's kind of a red flag. You are not supposed to let a service dog be petted by strangers. It's not a universal rule but it's an indication that it's just a regular dog.

While petting that dog, ask the owner what the dog is trained for. Detecting the onset of seizures, assistance with poor eyesight, etc. ?  No? It just makes them feel more comfortable? Then it's an emotional support animal, not a service animal and doesn't belong in places like restaurants, stores, and other similar buildings. Pisses me off that people buy the harness and use it as a license to take their nonservice dogs anywhere.

With that said, let the kid keep his ducks. As the family's property backs onto a lake with other ducks and larger water fowl, two more won't make a difference. And I'd bet the mortgage that at least some of the neighbors put out things like old bread chunks for the wild ducks and other such birds.
 
2018-08-09 06:03:51 PM  

PlaidJaguar: Service animals are trained and certified to perform their service.


They are also in all* cases, dogs.  Not ducks.  Not cats.   Not iguanas.  Not cows or goats or parakeets, either.  Dogs.  Canis lupus familiaris.  That's it.

Sorry kid.  No service duck for you.

* Miniature horses may apply
 
2018-08-09 06:10:02 PM  

Rent Party: PlaidJaguar: Service animals are trained and certified to perform their service.

They are also in all* cases, dogs.  Not ducks.  Not cats.   Not iguanas.  Not cows or goats or parakeets, either.  Dogs.  Canis lupus familiaris.  That's it.

Sorry kid.  No service duck for you.

* Miniature horses may apply


fta:  He believes U.S. laws allow service animals, including ducks.
And he is wrong
 
2018-08-09 06:21:40 PM  
Those are some delicious-looking pets!
 
2018-08-09 06:59:52 PM  
People need to complain. Because this is little unusual choice for a pet they decided to complain.  A little more understanding of the boys' needs would have been more helpful, and empathy as well, which seems  absent.  Ducks can be a good company to a child. I wonder why didn't they choose cat or a dog. This child will also learn to love and appreciate animals, unlike his neighbors.  Two ducks depreciating the value of the area.  Yeah right!
 
2018-08-09 07:03:10 PM  

RTOGUY: If the kid needs a duck after a hard day of school maybe school would be a lot easier if the kids weren't calling him the duck kid? Also if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic" and is probably more socially awkward which I am sure hugging ducks isn't helping.


It depends. I'll have full conversations with someone and later, it's like it was never "written" to long-term memory; or if they had long hair last time I saw them and they get a haircut, it's like I've never met them before.

You're not wired exactly the same as any other Farker. Autism is, very basically, a miswiring of an already highly chaotic and variable structure.. so no two autistic people are alike. I know another high-functioning person and we can both have a complete conversation with each other, both talking almost non-stop and BOTH of us get what the other's saying. They actually held rank in the air force.

It also changes how your brain recovers from trauma. You're already "missing" chunks of functionality, which you compensated for with other regions.. being KO'd just once can and will drastically lower the functionality of an autistic person, which is what happened to my friend.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I figured it was better than straight-up snark.
 
2018-08-09 07:04:35 PM  
As others have stated, the ducks are emotional support animals, not service animals.  Yes, the bar for calling something an emotional support animal is pretty low - no training or certification is required.  That being said, if the kid finds comfort in the ducks, they certainly qualify.

Given that, the Fair Housing Act is pretty clear that the family is in the right.  Unless the landlord or the town can show some compelling proof that the ducks create a hardship (and I'm pretty sure "they're loud" doesn't qualify), they're going to find themselves on the losing side of a housing discrimination suit.

http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/​r​esources/tips/assistance-animals-tenan​ts-rights.html
 
2018-08-09 07:36:12 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: RTOGUY: common sense is an oxymoron: RTOGUY: If the kid needs a duck after a hard day of school maybe school would be a lot easier if the kids weren't calling him the duck kid? Also if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic" and is probably more socially awkward which I am sure hugging ducks isn't helping.

Educate yourself, ape.

drjekel_mrhyde: pete85: RTOGUY: if the kid can carry on a conversation with reporters he isn't all that "autistic"

But you're certainly an "expert".

Everyone is a expert when it comes to autism. If you want me to tell you that you kid has autism, just give me $100 and I got you.

You too.

Someone steal your duck aspie?

Clever, edgelord.


Okay fine. Autism is the only condition you can treat with a duck. Is that giving it enough respect for you? I want to get this right I don't want you to write a long post on Reddit about how the "normies don't get it".
 
2018-08-09 07:45:00 PM  
Ducks? What ducks?

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2018-08-09 08:07:24 PM  

NeoCortex42: They're pets, not service animals. I'm all for allowing the kid to keep his pets since it sounds like they're in an area where ducks/geese/etc are common anyway, but we need to stop diluting the definition of what a service animal is.


My 6 yo non-verbal autistic nephew  has a service animal. His service animal provides emotional support, in addition to physical (our boy is a runner and the dog is the only one who can catch him).
When he screams because the blowers at the doors of Walmart are loud, his dog distracts him by playing. When it's loud and scary at the doctors office, the dog lays on his lap and his weight calms my nephew.
When he's had a really hard and terrible day at school because no one (literally) understands him, his dog is the only one who can calm him down.

My nephews service animal just happens to be a dog. Another person may feel a better trust with a cat, or horse, a duck, whatever. Many (most) people who are autistic don't process emotions the same as the average person. If they get any comfort from any animal for their neurological disorder IT IS A SERVICE ANIMAL, regardless of your un-informed opinion.

--
In addition: it's a farking bird. There are thousands in that neighborhood. Two tame ducks are a ridiculous thing to biatch about.
 
2018-08-09 08:10:41 PM  

PlaidJaguar: "Emotional support animals" are not service animals.

Service animals are trained and certified to perform their service.  Emotional support animals are just whatever random animal gives you comfort.

A seeing eye dog is a service animal.  A pot-bellied pig that detects and warns of an inclement seizure is a service animal.

If petting a kitten makes you feel better, great, but that doesn't make the kitten a service animal.


My autistic nephew has a service animal who is primarily for emotional support.
Do some research and you'll find many veterans have emotional support dogs who ARE service animals because they help them deal with the effects of ptsd and other mental disabilities.
 
2018-08-09 08:11:53 PM  

gopher321: So people won't mind if I bring my service $20 crack whore to the movies then.


you can take your mom to the movies anytime you want...
 
2018-08-09 08:15:22 PM  
I'm guessing it's noise thing but the article was written to tug on heart strings and not report the facts.

If it is a petty complaint then, yeah, fark those neighbors but we'll never know. Maybe a rival news org in the area will complete the story by interviewing the neighbors and research complaints about the property in question.
 
2018-08-09 08:16:23 PM  

gopher321: So people won't mind if I bring my service $20 crack whore to the movies then.


That'd better include a rock.
 
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