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2018-07-23 11:20:30 AM  
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2018-07-23 11:38:25 AM  
damn you, subby.
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2018-07-23 11:44:14 AM  

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*Shaking my meaty fist*
 
2018-07-23 11:53:18 AM  
Look out for suspiciously placed fruit, too.
 
2018-07-23 11:53:28 AM  
(vocal fry chuckle)
 
2018-07-23 11:55:17 AM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Look out for suspiciously placed fruit, too.


#DeadBirdsOfLA

Only a matter of time before #FallenLimesOfLA becomes a thing.
 
2018-07-23 11:57:08 AM  
Probably to prevent the spread of Herpes Simplex 10.
 
2018-07-23 11:59:41 AM  
That was a long way to go for a movie reference, subs, but +1 just the same.

Beverly Hills Cop Main Theme
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2018-07-23 11:59:45 AM  
"is this the man who wrecked the buffet at the Harrow Club?"
 
2018-07-23 12:02:14 PM  
I live near Bev Hills and these things are nuisance, left blocking disabled ramps or right in the middle of a sidewalk. And the people who ride them  ( scooter douches ) are usually on the sidewalk doing 15 mph forcing people to move or get hit or if in the street they blow through stop signs.  Seriously you can't walk 1 mile you are that lazy that you  have to ride a stupid flimsy ass scooter ?  Anyway just a matter of time until somebodies 12 yo snowflake is paralyzed or killed before they get sued out of existence. Glad to see the cops giving tickets and impounding the ones left blocking public right of ways.  And yes if you are a full grown ass adult you look like a twat riding one, don't care how trendy you think it is.  Rant over
 
2018-07-23 12:03:04 PM  
Those arrested for this will have their bonds snatched away.
 
2018-07-23 12:03:19 PM  
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Pay your scooter fines with these.
 
2018-07-23 12:03:47 PM  
Bravo, subby.
 
2018-07-23 12:05:59 PM  
You need a drivers license to ride a Razor scooter???
 
2018-07-23 12:06:39 PM  
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2018-07-23 12:08:35 PM  
I saw only younger people on the scooters, so I think this is a young vs old thing. The older people generally have more money and therefore more command of the police, which is why you don't see crackdowns on things older people like.
 
2018-07-23 12:09:25 PM  

Meez: I live near Bev Hills and these things are nuisance, left blocking disabled ramps or right in the middle of a sidewalk. And the people who ride them  ( scooter douches ) are usually on the sidewalk doing 15 mph forcing people to move or get hit or if in the street they blow through stop signs.  Seriously you can't walk 1 mile you are that lazy that you  have to ride a stupid flimsy ass scooter ?  Anyway just a matter of time until somebodies 12 yo snowflake is paralyzed or killed before they get sued out of existence. Glad to see the cops giving tickets and impounding the ones left blocking public right of ways.  And yes if you are a full grown ass adult you look like a twat riding one, don't care how trendy you think it is.  Rant over


I'm in Santa Monica and they've pretty much taken over. We should do a re-make of Hitchcock's The Birds but instead of avian attackers, poor shlobs like me have to navigate the streets without betting beaned by a Bird rider.

/Seriously can't go two blocks without nearly getting hit by a dozen of these being driven on the sidewalk. Everyone speeds and never wears helmets.

//I keep having to move these things out of the way so handicap folks can get around.

///Saw two young boys completely ignore the red lights and drive these through an intersection, nearly getting hit by a white SUV. They gave me nasty looks when I screamed at them to Stop. Only a matter of time before someone's crotch fruit dies horribly.
 
2018-07-23 12:12:14 PM  

Beerbarian: You need a drivers license to ride a Razor scooter???


It's an electric scooter, does about 15 mph, weight limit is 200lbs. So yeah you get slammed into by a 180 lb guy doing 15mph its gonna do some damage, probably kill a child or old person.  In Cali it is considered a motorized vehicle. You have to be 18 to ride one and have a drivers license. But somehow I see a lot of little kids riding them tandem and doing jumps on the sidewalks.
 
2018-07-23 12:14:53 PM  
get the FARK outta here
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2018-07-23 12:17:07 PM  
Thanks, subby, now i'm going to have the music from that stupid movie stuck in my head all day.
 
2018-07-23 12:19:32 PM  

Meez: Beerbarian: You need a drivers license to ride a Razor scooter???

It's an electric scooter, does about 15 mph, weight limit is 200lbs. So yeah you get slammed into by a 180 lb guy doing 15mph its gonna do some damage, probably kill a child or old person.  In Cali it is considered a motorized vehicle. You have to be 18 to ride one and have a drivers license. But somehow I see a lot of little kids riding them tandem and doing jumps on the sidewalks.


I know them.  My 13 and 11 year olds have them (E300s).  They are not allowed on sidewalks here, but are treated as bicycles as far as helmets and lighting go.

Do you also have to be 18 to ride an electric assist bicycle?
 
2018-07-23 12:20:01 PM  

Beerbarian: You need a drivers license to ride a Razor scooter???


No. You need a drivers license to ride a Motor Vehicle, which these things are.
 
2018-07-23 12:20:55 PM  
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2018-07-23 12:23:26 PM  
What the hell?

"Axel F" just popped on my Pandora station and I commented to my coworkers that it had to have been at least 30yrs since I'd heard it other than on Family Guy!
And now an Axel F shout out in a Fark headline?

I suppose these things are suppose to come in threes so ... what's next?
 
2018-07-23 12:25:49 PM  
MiMa feat. Beverly Hills Cop Main Theme - Take 2
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2018-07-23 12:27:55 PM  

Birnone: I saw only younger people on the scooters, so I think this is a young vs old thing. The older people generally have more money and therefore more command of the police, which is why you don't see crackdowns on things older people like.


It is less of and old vs young thing and more of a well funded corporation monetizing public right of ways but not taking responsibility for their riders or products kind of thing . The solution will be the companies will need to have docking stations in front of private businesses who want them there. You will have to dock the scooter to stop being charged for it. The scooters will need motorcycle license plates and anybody underage will be busted just like if you saw a kid riding a dirt bike down a sidewalk.  Scooters left on the sidewalk or blocking disabled ramps will be impounded
 
2018-07-23 12:29:11 PM  

Birnone: I saw only younger people on the scooters, so I think this is a young vs old thing. The older people generally have more money and therefore more command of the police, which is why you don't see crackdowns on things older people like.


Like what, outlawing the early bird special?

I'm also not sure how being older and having more disposable income gives a person "command of the police".
 
2018-07-23 12:29:23 PM  

Beerbarian: Meez: Beerbarian: You need a drivers license to ride a Razor scooter???

It's an electric scooter, does about 15 mph, weight limit is 200lbs. So yeah you get slammed into by a 180 lb guy doing 15mph its gonna do some damage, probably kill a child or old person.  In Cali it is considered a motorized vehicle. You have to be 18 to ride one and have a drivers license. But somehow I see a lot of little kids riding them tandem and doing jumps on the sidewalks.

I know them.  My 13 and 11 year olds have them (E300s).  They are not allowed on sidewalks here, but are treated as bicycles as far as helmets and lighting go.

Do you also have to be 18 to ride an electric assist bicycle?


I'm pretty certain that you have to have a licence to ride those things out on the streets (depending on your local laws). When they started becoming popular among kids when I was in High School, a few of my friends had theirs confiscated by police and their families were issued fines. I'm guessing your kids are just lucky they haven't been caught yet, or the laws are different where you are.

As for electric assist bicycle - as far as I know, as long as the motorized vehicle is specifically used to assist someone who has limited mobility, then you don't need a licence to drive one.
 
2018-07-23 12:34:55 PM  
My friends and I at 10 years old were getting citations for riding our skateboards on the sidewalk in front of our own houses back in late 70s early 80s because pearl clutchers couldn't stand the thought of hooligan skateboarders roaming the city with impunity .  So, I always have to laugh when people overreact to new devices.

There needs to be a distinction for these low powered scooters.  CA's current motorized scooter law is geared more towards powerful vehicles that can reach speeds of 25+mph.  The electric scooters we are seeing now are nowhere near that fast and have very little distance capability.  CA needs to modify the new electric skateboard law to include electric scooters.  Which, essentially, would result in any scooter under 1000w follow the same laws that regulate bicycles.
 
2018-07-23 12:48:42 PM  

ng2810: Meez: I live near Bev Hills and these things are nuisance, left blocking disabled ramps or right in the middle of a sidewalk. And the people who ride them  ( scooter douches ) are usually on the sidewalk doing 15 mph forcing people to move or get hit or if in the street they blow through stop signs.  Seriously you can't walk 1 mile you are that lazy that you  have to ride a stupid flimsy ass scooter ?  Anyway just a matter of time until somebodies 12 yo snowflake is paralyzed or killed before they get sued out of existence. Glad to see the cops giving tickets and impounding the ones left blocking public right of ways.  And yes if you are a full grown ass adult you look like a twat riding one, don't care how trendy you think it is.  Rant over

I'm in Santa Monica and they've pretty much taken over. We should do a re-make of Hitchcock's The Birds but instead of avian attackers, poor shlobs like me have to navigate the streets without betting beaned by a Bird rider.

/Seriously can't go two blocks without nearly getting hit by a dozen of these being driven on the sidewalk. Everyone speeds and never wears helmets.

//I keep having to move these things out of the way so handicap folks can get around.

///Saw two young boys completely ignore the red lights and drive these through an intersection, nearly getting hit by a white SUV. They gave me nasty looks when I screamed at them to Stop. Only a matter of time before someone's crotch fruit dies horribly.


This morning, I took the bus to work. Of course, I have the courtesy to let a little old lady exit before me, and then she walks out the door only to carefully step over two of those damn scooters that a couple clueless riders probably thought were being parked out of the way of pedestrians.

Last week, I saw a crazy guy walking down Santa Monica Blvd, yelling at random and knocking over every abandoned scooter he saw. For all I know, he may have been quite sane.
 
2018-07-23 12:49:47 PM  

Kit Fister: Thanks, subby, now i'm going to have the music from that stupid movie stuck in my head all day.


*slides a screen with this on it to your right, taps your right shoulder then runs left*
Crazy Frog - Axel F
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2018-07-23 12:52:25 PM  

Meez: I live near Bev Hills and these things are nuisance, left blocking disabled ramps or right in the middle of a sidewalk. And the people who ride them  ( scooter douches ) are usually on the sidewalk doing 15 mph forcing people to move or get hit or if in the street they blow through stop signs.  Seriously you can't walk 1 mile you are that lazy that you  have to ride a stupid flimsy ass scooter ?  Anyway just a matter of time until somebodies 12 yo snowflake is paralyzed or killed before they get sued out of existence. Glad to see the cops giving tickets and impounding the ones left blocking public right of ways.  And yes if you are a full grown ass adult you look like a twat riding one, don't care how trendy you think it is.  Rant over


Same here in San Diego. It's farking crazy here and the cops don't do anything to enforce the laws about not riding them on the sidewalk.
 
2018-07-23 12:57:28 PM  

ng2810: Beerbarian: Meez: Beerbarian: You need a drivers license to ride a Razor scooter???

It's an electric scooter, does about 15 mph, weight limit is 200lbs. So yeah you get slammed into by a 180 lb guy doing 15mph its gonna do some damage, probably kill a child or old person.  In Cali it is considered a motorized vehicle. You have to be 18 to ride one and have a drivers license. But somehow I see a lot of little kids riding them tandem and doing jumps on the sidewalks.

I know them.  My 13 and 11 year olds have them (E300s).  They are not allowed on sidewalks here, but are treated as bicycles as far as helmets and lighting go.

Do you also have to be 18 to ride an electric assist bicycle?

I'm pretty certain that you have to have a licence to ride those things out on the streets (depending on your local laws). When they started becoming popular among kids when I was in High School, a few of my friends had theirs confiscated by police and their families were issued fines. I'm guessing your kids are just lucky they haven't been caught yet, or the laws are different where you are.

As for electric assist bicycle - as far as I know, as long as the motorized vehicle is specifically used to assist someone who has limited mobility, then you don't need a licence to drive one.


Thanks.  I definitely learned something today.  Having a license is definitely not a requirement here as this is how folks convicted of DUI and have lost their licenses get themselves around (scooter less than 50cc).  I'll have to check on an age requirement.  I guess I have been raising a couple of felons.
 
2018-07-23 12:58:46 PM  
cyberspacedout:

Last week, I saw a crazy guy walking down Santa Monica Blvd, yelling at random and knocking over every abandoned scooter he saw. For all I know, he may have been quite sane.

I'm sane, the voices in my head keep telling me so.
 
2018-07-23 01:02:33 PM  
I rode one of the bird scooters last week to check it out. Janky, slow and too expensive. I could have taken a ride share for the same price and saved some time and not have a sore back the rest of the day.
 
2018-07-23 01:08:01 PM  
1) Bravo, subby, and well done.

2) Several kids in the neighborhood have these damn things. VREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *CLUNK* EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUMMMMM​MMM RATTLERATTLERATTLE VRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMM

(Repeat for several minutes until batteries wear down)

Why yes I hate them, how could you tell?

\kids on bikes or skateboards much better
\\get golf carts off the road too

By this point the batteries are wearing down and the machines are laboring and sound diseased. My friend shows up and is a bit pissed that I'm being a stick in the mud.
 
2018-07-23 01:08:54 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Birnone: I saw only younger people on the scooters, so I think this is a young vs old thing. The older people generally have more money and therefore more command of the police, which is why you don't see crackdowns on things older people like.

Like what, outlawing the early bird special?

I'm also not sure how being older and having more disposable income gives a person "command of the police".


You think if some twenty year old in Beverly Hills complained to the police about some annoyance, like older people walking too slow, the police would care? On the other hand, the people with money(usually older) will get the police's attention. They are taxpayers dammit! The police work for them.
 
2018-07-23 01:09:55 PM  

RandolphCarter: 1) Bravo, subby, and well done.

2) Several kids in the neighborhood have these damn things. VREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *CLUNK* EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUMMMMM​MMM RATTLERATTLERATTLE VRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMM

(Repeat for several minutes until batteries wear down)

Why yes I hate them, how could you tell?

\kids on bikes or skateboards much better
\\get golf carts off the road too

By this point the batteries are wearing down and the machines are laboring and sound diseased. My friend shows up and is a bit pissed that I'm being a stick in the mud.


And apparently I didn't delete enough of the CSB I gave up on. Dammit.
 
2018-07-23 01:24:19 PM  

Beerbarian: I know them.  My 13 and 11 year olds have them (E300s).  They are not allowed on sidewalks here, but are treated as bicycles as far as helmets and lighting go.
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Just curious, but did you get your kids E-scooters instead of bicycles?
 
2018-07-23 01:28:13 PM  

ng2810: Beerbarian: You need a drivers license to ride a Razor scooter???

No. You need a drivers license to ride a Motor Vehicle, which these things are.


Thanks for the link.  The ways of CA are strange to me, even more so that self-propelled bicycles are exempt while there are not.
 
2018-07-23 01:32:03 PM  

nanim: Beerbarian: I know them.  My 13 and 11 year olds have them (E300s).  They are not allowed on sidewalks here, but are treated as bicycles as far as helmets and lighting go.
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Just curious, but did you get your kids E-scooters instead of bicycles?


They had bicycles, but kept outgrowing them. Since they were only used to get to play dates and Grandma's house which are in our subdivision, I went E-scooter instead.
 
2018-07-23 01:43:32 PM  
E-scooters, assuming they go less than 20 mph on flat land, are probably motor-driven cycles by CVC standards and thus don't need a license but do require a helmet (basically, they're bikes).

California DMV info: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/det​a​il/motorcycles/motorcycles

I know we heard a bit about them from the UCPD during orientation last week, with the officer saying they were in the process of switching to formal enforcement of the rules and that most of what people do with them is "actually illegal, but we haven't been pushing the issue much."
 
2018-07-23 01:53:25 PM  
People need to realize that only cars are deserving of the free use of hundreds of billions of dollars of public property and infrastructure.
 
2018-07-23 01:56:01 PM  

Birnone: ReapTheChaos: Birnone: I saw only younger people on the scooters, so I think this is a young vs old thing. The older people generally have more money and therefore more command of the police, which is why you don't see crackdowns on things older people like.

Like what, outlawing the early bird special?

I'm also not sure how being older and having more disposable income gives a person "command of the police".

You think if some twenty year old in Beverly Hills complained to the police about some annoyance, like older people walking too slow, the police would care? On the other hand, the people with money(usually older) will get the police's attention. They are taxpayers dammit! The police work for them.


Yes, because an elderly person not being able to walk as fast as a 20 year old is definitely the same as people riding motorized scooters down the sidewalk at 15+ mph.
 
2018-07-23 02:06:16 PM  

Surpheon: People need to realize that only cars are deserving of the free use of hundreds of billions of dollars of public property and infrastructure.


1. Free?
2. Cars don't often run down pedestrians on the sidewalk. It's noteworthy when they do.
3. Cars parked blocking bus stops get towed.
 
2018-07-23 02:16:15 PM  

obenchainr: E-scooters, assuming they go less than 20 mph on flat land, are probably motor-driven cycles by CVC standards and thus don't need a license but do require a helmet (basically, they're bikes).


If you scroll down to the bottom of your link you will se e this:

A motorized scooter is a two-wheeled device that has handlebars, a floorboard designed to be stood upon when riding, and is powered by a motor. Click here for more information CVC §407.5
Motorized scooter does NOT have to be registered. A motorized scooter may be driven with any class driver license.


By that definition - lime scooters require a license.  As a cyclist, my problem is not the scooters themselves but the idiots who have no clue how to operate on the street.  I had to nail my brakes twice today to avoid some 40ish year old guy on a scooter who decided traffic laws were even more optional than cyclists and drivers think they are.
 
2018-07-23 02:22:35 PM  
Cops run out of black people to shoot?
 
2018-07-23 02:26:38 PM  

gingerjet: obenchainr: E-scooters, assuming they go less than 20 mph on flat land, are probably motor-driven cycles by CVC standards and thus don't need a license but do require a helmet (basically, they're bikes).

If you scroll down to the bottom of your link you will se e this:

A motorized scooter is a two-wheeled device that has handlebars, a floorboard designed to be stood upon when riding, and is powered by a motor. Click here for more information CVC §407.5
Motorized scooter does NOT have to be registered. A motorized scooter may be driven with any class driver license.

By that definition - lime scooters require a license.  As a cyclist, my problem is not the scooters themselves but the idiots who have no clue how to operate on the street.  I had to nail my brakes twice today to avoid some 40ish year old guy on a scooter who decided traffic laws were even more optional than cyclists and drivers think they are.


Limes, sure; I thought people above were talking about those little sit-scooter-things that commuters use (URB-E and such), which aren't officially scooters as they don't have floorboards to stand on.

But yeah, it's the limes (and similar) around UCLA that the UCPD was complaining about.  They're prohibited from sidewalks,but you'd never know that from how they're used (and left laying all over the place).
 
2018-07-23 02:38:08 PM  

Meez: Birnone: I saw only younger people on the scooters, so I think this is a young vs old thing. The older people generally have more money and therefore more command of the police, which is why you don't see crackdowns on things older people like.

It is less of and old vs young thing and more of a well funded corporation monetizing public right of ways but not taking responsibility for their riders or products kind of thing . The solution will be the companies will need to have docking stations in front of private businesses who want them there. You will have to dock the scooter to stop being charged for it. The scooters will need motorcycle license plates and anybody underage will be busted just like if you saw a kid riding a dirt bike down a sidewalk.  Scooters left on the sidewalk or blocking disabled ramps will be impounded


The motorcycle license thing is a no go. 15 mph just isn't fast enough. A motorcycle needs to go around 25, I think. I saw a guy riding a motorized bike (no pedals, shaped like a Vespa) one time and asked him why he didn't need a helmet. He said it was classified as a bicycle.

The companies will balk at the docking requirements as well.

Since I live in NorCal, I am interested to see what happens to these things come wintertime. Not that we get "winter," but the (possible) rain and relative cold might put a cramp in these things' popularity. Be interesting to see if they return next spring at the same level or if the novelty wears off.
 
2018-07-23 02:49:12 PM  

Meez: It's an electric scooter, does about 15 mph, weight limit is 200lbs. So yeah you get slammed into by a 180 lb guy doing 15mph its gonna do some damage, probably kill a child or old person.


Jesus Tapdancing Christ, people can farking run 15mph.  Do I need a license to run now too?  You can go faster on an UNPOWERED scooter than you can on a a Bird.  For someone who loves to throw the word "snowflake" around, you sure do farking whine a lot.
 
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