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(Twitter)   So Trump supposedly told Rosenstein to release the indictments last Friday because it would strengthen Trump's hand in his meeting with Putin. So what would have happened if Trump went in in a position of weakness?   ( twitter.com) divider line
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2018-07-17 07:35:30 PM  
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2018-07-17 07:38:33 PM  
they didn't need his approval. he shouldn't have even been involved. they most likely told him it was going to happen and he said okay. or maybe he wanted to know who it was going to target so he could tell Putin and they could try to figure out from that what their exposure was.
 
2018-07-17 07:38:51 PM  
Womp womp.
 
2018-07-17 07:39:39 PM  
Since it was apparently Trump who said it, I now doubt the existence of Rod Rosenstein.
 
2018-07-17 07:39:56 PM  
Yeah that worked out really well.
 
2018-07-17 07:45:48 PM  
"You know those indictments that prove I'm an illegitimate fraud? Yeah, it was totally my idea to release those. Really. All Me. Me Me Me. Everything is about ME."
 
2018-07-17 07:47:54 PM  
And we know that Donnie needed to strengthen his hands before meeting with Putin- working the shaft and cupping his balls is hard....
 
2018-07-17 07:48:17 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Since it was apparently Trump who said it, I now doubt the existence of Rod Rosenstein.


Which begs the question: if the Daily Mail reports on Donald Trump talking about the Daily Mail, is that how we trigger the Singularity?
 
2018-07-17 07:49:07 PM  
Grade A first class bullshiat
 
2018-07-17 07:50:13 PM  
Yeah, more like Rosenstein told Trump the indictments were going to be released right before...
 
2018-07-17 07:50:18 PM  
"Everything bad that looks really, really bad, is actually really good, and here's why."
/Wipes sweat from brow
 
2018-07-17 07:50:41 PM  
Good thinking, D2S. It worked better than you could ever hoped for...
 
2018-07-17 07:52:44 PM  
The DOJ has a rule for pretty much everything and consult the President before announcing an indictment I am willing to bet is against a rule. I do not have a US Attorney rule manual but others do.
 
2018-07-17 07:58:43 PM  
Vlad wouldn't have used lube.
 
2018-07-17 07:59:20 PM  
man so many filings on big cases related to this shiat show. One on Wilbur Ross' case. One on the now defunct voter commission of Korbachs related to the preservation of the state voter data they received. One in the DNC v Russia et al. where they are serving Jared Kushner with a summons but he seems to be avoiding them. So they filed a complaint. it seems the 3rd time they tried he had the secret service send them away. they've been trying to serve him since april.
 
2018-07-17 07:59:25 PM  

SurfaceTension: Benevolent Misanthrope: Since it was apparently Trump who said it, I now doubt the existence of Rod Rosenstein.

Which begs the question: if the Daily Mail reports on Donald Trump talking about the Daily Mail, is that how we trigger the Singularity?


<shrug> Worth a shot.
 
2018-07-17 08:08:29 PM  
That stinks of conflict.
 
2018-07-17 08:13:28 PM  

Hobodeluxe: man so many filings on big cases related to this shiat show. One on Wilbur Ross' case. One on the now defunct voter commission of Korbachs related to the preservation of the state voter data they received. One in the DNC v Russia et al. where they are serving Jared Kushner with a summons but he seems to be avoiding them. So they filed a complaint. it seems the 3rd time they tried he had the secret service send them away. they've been trying to serve him since april.


Whoa, really (re: Kushner)? Got a source?
 
2018-07-17 08:28:25 PM  
Why would the President be directing the timing of the issuance of indictments in any criminal investigation, let alone this one?  Smells like bullshiat.
 
2018-07-17 08:38:24 PM  

Cyberluddite: Why would the President be directing the timing of the issuance of indictments in any criminal investigation, let alone this one?  Smells like bullshiat.


Because it could have major diplomatic effects? We're basically accusing Russia of doing what's in the indictment.   Not that anything about this is normal.
 
2018-07-17 08:48:48 PM  

eurotrader: The DOJ has a rule for pretty much everything and consult the President before announcing an indictment I am willing to bet is against a rule. I do not have a US Attorney rule manual but others do.


They do. But I will bet that for indictments involving foreign individuals that may impact foreign policy, they get input from the White House that is usually not sought.

Because farking up foreign policy is the President's job, not the DOJ's.

He was likely advised of the pending indictment. He may have been given the choice of having it released after the summit. He chose BEFORE so he could apologize to Putin for it personally.
 
2018-07-17 09:14:23 PM  
Based on my contemporaneous memory of Rosenstein's press conference, he said he briefed the President because he thought it important that he understand where the investigation was at.

So Trump is rewriting history again, as usual.
 
2018-07-17 09:18:07 PM  

hobnail: Based on my contemporaneous memory of Rosenstein's press conference, he said he briefed the President because he thought it important that he understand where the investigation was at.

So Trump is rewriting history again, as usual.


I can see the AG or deputy AG informing the WH counsel but telling the President directly about anything is wrong if not against DOJ policy and rules.
 
2018-07-17 09:52:24 PM  
I believe that this happened. Of course, I also believe my 5yo nephew when he says "I meant to do that" after smacking himself in the face with a toy, so take my belief with a grain of salt. One of these should do the trick.

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2018-07-17 09:58:05 PM  
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2018-07-18 12:39:39 AM  
The Marx Brothers and The Three Stooges on crack couldn't have farked up that summit any worse than Cadet Bone Spur.
 
2018-07-18 03:05:53 AM  
Suuure he did.
 
2018-07-18 03:11:36 AM  
Fox News is reporting resolutions to impeach Rosenstein days way
 
2018-07-18 03:12:10 AM  
Sure, Jan.
 
2018-07-18 03:23:40 AM  

SurfaceTension: Benevolent Misanthrope: Since it was apparently Trump who said it, I now doubt the existence of Rod Rosenstein.

Which begs the question: if the Daily Mail reports on Donald Trump talking about the Daily Mail, is that how we trigger the Singularity?


No point trying.

The UniverseOS hypervisor detects the attempt to trigger an unhandled reality exception, pauses reality and edits the attempt out retroactively. Effective manifestations of this include the cosmic censorship hypothesis & Novikov self-consistency hypothesis.

We're not quite sure why it wasn't able to catch Barack Obama's Magical Time Machine... my sources claim to have once heard Obama mumble something about a Thompson hack.
 
2018-07-18 03:27:10 AM  

SurfaceTension: Benevolent Misanthrope: Since it was apparently Trump who said it, I now doubt the existence of Rod Rosenstein.

Which begs the question


raises*
 
2018-07-18 03:27:57 AM  
what a shiat show it's only Wednesday
 
2018-07-18 03:28:28 AM  
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
 
2018-07-18 03:31:46 AM  

Palined Parenthood: SurfaceTension: Benevolent Misanthrope: Since it was apparently Trump who said it, I now doubt the existence of Rod Rosenstein.

Which begs the question

raises*


It's idiomatic, so since people are using it that way, it becomes that way.

You'll get over it :)
 
2018-07-18 03:32:56 AM  
I wonder how those pardons will work.
 
2018-07-18 03:40:29 AM  
These treasonous bastards need to be dealt with harshly.
 
2018-07-18 03:51:23 AM  
Given that it seems like Rosenstein farking despises Trump (and who doesn't), this story does seem like BS.
 
2018-07-18 03:54:03 AM  
 
2018-07-18 03:57:25 AM  

ArkPanda: Cyberluddite: Why would the President be directing the timing of the issuance of indictments in any criminal investigation, let alone this one?  Smells like bullshiat.

Because it could have major diplomatic effects? We're basically accusing Russia of doing what's in the indictment.   Not that anything about this is normal.


Not since Shat did Rocket Man is anything normal.
 
2018-07-18 03:58:30 AM  
A presidential ''I meant to do that!'' Well fancy that.
 
2018-07-18 04:01:31 AM  

ArkPanda: Cyberluddite: Why would the President be directing the timing of the issuance of indictments in any criminal investigation, let alone this one?  Smells like bullshiat.

Because it could have major diplomatic effects? We're basically accusing Russia of doing what's in the indictment.   Not that anything about this is normal.


As a general policy, it makes sense to me to inform a President of a significant set of criminal indictments against a foreign power's military officers, especially ahead of a scheduled Presidential visit to NATO (a principle foe of that foreign power) and a summit with that foreign power. In fact, it makes total sense to do so. The bizarre exception to this situation, beyond the seriousness of the foreign meddling itself, is that the meddling was to support the candidate that is currently the President. That makes it all awkward.

Nevertheless, while Trump himself disgusts me, the POTUS as an office needs to be treated as the head of state regardless coontil we kick his ass out). The consultation was therefore correct. The subsequent decision making process was grossly mishandled. The indictments should have been used to cancel the summit, increase sanctions, and launch strong counter-measures against future interference.
 
2018-07-18 04:01:48 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Since it was apparently Trump who said it, I now doubt the existence of Rod Rosenstein.


Trump now works for and owns the Daily Fail?!
 
2018-07-18 04:04:12 AM  

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NSFG context (Not Safe For Gentlemen)


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2018-07-18 04:17:30 AM  
It could have gone worse. At least we still have Alaska.
 
2018-07-18 04:27:52 AM  
Laugh all you want but Donnie got chocolate, strawberry AND vanilla at dinner that night. Take that, Putin!
 
2018-07-18 04:30:22 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: It could have gone worse. At least we still have Alaska.


That comes with a free Sarah Palin, though.
 
2018-07-18 04:33:22 AM  

NateAsbestos: Hobodeluxe: man so many filings on big cases related to this shiat show. One on Wilbur Ross' case. One on the now defunct voter commission of Korbachs related to the preservation of the state voter data they received. One in the DNC v Russia et al. where they are serving Jared Kushner with a summons but he seems to be avoiding them. So they filed a complaint. it seems the 3rd time they tried he had the secret service send them away. they've been trying to serve him since april.

Whoa, really (re: Kushner)? Got a source?


sorry so late of a response. link
 
2018-07-18 04:41:26 AM  

luckyeddie: AliceBToklasLives: It could have gone worse. At least we still have Alaska.

That comes with a free Sarah Palin, though.


Maybe we could give back Alaska to the Russians!
With all the Republicans in it and Bugs Bunny sawing the state off the continent like he did Florida!
 
2018-07-18 04:43:43 AM  
Sounds like he was trying to be clever.

How's that working out for you, being clever?
 
2018-07-18 04:45:05 AM  
Yeah, because Trump has been pulling the levers of power this entire time.
He's a skillful political operator, that Trump.
 
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