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2018-07-16 05:01:35 PM  
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2018-07-16 06:34:28 PM  
I'd rather see statistics on how many accidents are caused by people smoking cannabis.

Difficulty: no alcohol.
 
2018-07-16 07:12:40 PM  
TRICK QUESTION! Injecting just one marijuana leads to selling one's car and renting out one's orifices down by the dock due to the instant, crippling addiction and subsequent total organ explosions. Science it out, hippies!
 
2018-07-16 07:32:26 PM  
One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.
 
2018-07-16 08:31:47 PM  

Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.


YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all
 
2018-07-16 08:41:14 PM  

Sgygus: Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.

YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all


wrong. ignorant and wrong.
 
2018-07-16 08:56:09 PM  
"I'm sorry officer, I know the speed limit is 65. I think I may have been doing 70 at most."
"You were doing eleven."
 
2018-07-16 09:00:11 PM  
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2018-07-16 09:00:45 PM  

Mugato: "I'm sorry officer, I know the speed limit is 65. I think I may have been doing 70 at most."
"You were doing eleven."


Chris Farley - Black Sheep - Traffic Stop
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2018-07-16 09:43:14 PM  
 
2018-07-16 09:54:08 PM  

fusillade762: Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.

When inhaled, delta-9-THC remains unchanged. It simply passes the blood-brain barrier and gets you high instantly. However, when eaten or drank, delta-9-THC breaks down to become 11-hydroxy-THC, a faster acting and more psychotropic form of the chemical.

In other words, once your tasty edible has been digested, it's essentially become a super-powered form of cannabis that's totally different from what you've encountered through smoking. Stronger highs and even hallucinations have been recorded.


Also, the entire dose gets absorbed into your system when you eat it. When you smoke it only the THC that clings to your lungs gets absorbed and you exhale the rest. Sure, you can hold it in longer and probably get most of the smoke to attach to your lungs, but it's still not the entire "dose".
 
2018-07-16 10:36:45 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Sgygus: Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.

YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all

wrong. ignorant and wrong.


Stupid and inexperienced and stupid.
 
2018-07-16 11:06:24 PM  
heh... watching stoners debate they;re

whidbey: I'd rather see statistics on how many accidents are caused by people smoking cannabis.

Difficulty: no alcohol.


Well, NORML will cite a study from 2002 http://norml.org/library/item/marijua​n​a-and-driving-a-review-of-the-scientif​ic-evidence

but a more recent study from JAMA indicates otherwise: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama​i​nternalmedicine/article-abstract/26722​02

but why should anyone risk endangering innocents by driving drunk or high?
 
2018-07-16 11:39:31 PM  

Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.


Because they are not the 'same sized doses'. Edibles usually contain a highly concentrated dose of hash oil or butter. You are eating many, many times the dosage of a regular smoked bowl.
 
2018-07-16 11:41:07 PM  

Sgygus: Giant Clown Shoe: Sgygus: Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.

YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all

wrong. ignorant and wrong.

Stupid and inexperienced and stupid.


You're telling a guy who bought Thai stick in the 70s he's inexperienced?

Currently holding Lemon Sour Diesel as my daytime and Purple Kush as my nighttime.
 
2018-07-16 11:47:12 PM  

whidbey: I'd rather see statistics on how many accidents are caused by people smoking cannabis.

Difficulty: no alcohol.


On April 21st I damn near killed 2 pot heads who pulled out of an ice cream store parking lot directly in front of my car moving at 35 MPH. The only reason the driver isn't dead is because my new car has the auto collision detection thing that stopped me about 6 inches short of his door.

/Driver and passenger were both smoking and their car reeked of pot.
 
2018-07-17 12:18:27 AM  

bubba_2ba: ut why should anyone risk endangering innocents by driving drunk or high?


The problem that this research is trying to determine is what is drunk or high? Does having one beer make you drunk? No...it does not. Maybe if you never drink and you have one drink maybe don't drive because you don't know how it affects you.

And what is high? Is it a different standard than drunk? We can all agree that a person who has had six drinks in a couple hours is much more dangerous on the road than somebody who sipped one drink for an hour. But in most people's eyes, one hit of weed makes you "high". So how high do you need to be to be considered the equivalent of drunk on alcohol?

That's the whole point of the study.
 
2018-07-17 12:21:54 AM  
If you've never had a sip of alcohol and you weigh 150 lbs and you consume 50 ml of 80 proof alcohol, you're going to be as drunk as a person who drinks often, but has also had only 50 ml of 80 proof alcohol. The difference is that on top of being impaired the inexperienced drinker is not just battling the impairment, but also a new experience that they've never had.
 
2018-07-17 01:27:33 AM  

jaylectricity: If you've never had a sip of alcohol and you weigh 150 lbs and you consume 50 ml of 80 proof alcohol, you're going to be as drunk as a person who drinks often, but has also had only 50 ml of 80 proof alcohol. The difference is that on top of being impaired the inexperienced drinker is not just battling the impairment, but also a new experience that they've never had.


So, someone who is more experienced at being drunk is a safer driver?

Let the practice begin!!!
 
2018-07-17 02:31:11 AM  

jaylectricity: bubba_2ba: ut why should anyone risk endangering innocents by driving drunk or high?

The problem that this research is trying to determine is what is drunk or high? Does having one beer make you drunk? No...it does not. Maybe if you never drink and you have one drink maybe don't drive because you don't know how it affects you.

And what is high? Is it a different standard than drunk? We can all agree that a person who has had six drinks in a couple hours is much more dangerous on the road than somebody who sipped one drink for an hour. But in most people's eyes, one hit of weed makes you "high". So how high do you need to be to be considered the equivalent of drunk on alcohol?

That's the whole point of the study.


I know that edibles have a different effect on me than smoking it does. Edibles tend to last a bit longer, but for me personally since I have smoked so much, it doesn't hit me as strong as it would others, and so I actually have to take more of them.

That's why 'homeade' edibles are best..

but as far as driving? I generally wait at least six hours or so after partaking.
 
2018-07-17 09:19:29 AM  
So, someone who is more experienced at being drunk is a safer driver?

Counter intuitively, this is probably the case.
 
2018-07-17 09:22:55 AM  
I also can't imagine wanting to drive if I was super duper high. Booze,you're like fark it,let's go. Super high, I'll just sit here for as long as it takes not to be super duper uncomfortably high.
 
2018-07-17 10:14:21 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Sgygus: Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.

YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all

wrong. ignorant and wrong.


No, they're right.  Edibles work differently on different people.  For example, there are usually 10 "servings" in a container of whatever you're buying - I'll eat them all and end up puffing my vape in a few hours because the edibles did nothing.  I have tried several variants and brands.  Edibles just don't do anything for me.  Most likely has something to do with built up tolerance in my case I would guess.
 
2018-07-17 10:57:48 AM  

GanjSmokr: Giant Clown Shoe: Sgygus: Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.

YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all

wrong. ignorant and wrong.

No, they're right.  Edibles work differently on different people.  For example, there are usually 10 "servings" in a container of whatever you're buying - I'll eat them all and end up puffing my vape in a few hours because the edibles did nothing.  I have tried several variants and brands.  Edibles just don't do anything for me. Most likely has something to do with built up tolerance in my case I would guess.


User name checks out...like a motherfarker.
 
2018-07-17 10:59:03 AM  
Also obligatory and entertaining.

Drivers stoned on marijuana test their driving skills
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2018-07-17 11:05:31 AM  

Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.


Edibles go through the stomach where some of the cannabinoids and terpenes get destroyed or modified, and then (I think) get processed through the liver. They then get gradually released to the bloodstream and brain. Cannabis smoke goes through the lungs directly to the bloodstream, for a much faster and less modified experience.

It's even trippier to inject the marijuana directly into the eyeball, which is much closer to the brain.
 
2018-07-17 11:25:53 AM  

jaylectricity: fusillade762: Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.

When inhaled, delta-9-THC remains unchanged. It simply passes the blood-brain barrier and gets you high instantly. However, when eaten or drank, delta-9-THC breaks down to become 11-hydroxy-THC, a faster acting and more psychotropic form of the chemical.

In other words, once your tasty edible has been digested, it's essentially become a super-powered form of cannabis that's totally different from what you've encountered through smoking. Stronger highs and even hallucinations have been recorded.

Also, the entire dose gets absorbed into your system when you eat it. When you smoke it only the THC that clings to your lungs gets absorbed and you exhale the rest. Sure, you can hold it in longer and probably get most of the smoke to attach to your lungs, but it's still not the entire "dose".


The sources I've read indicate that very little THC escapes back into the general atmosphere. THC and receptors in the lungs have a huge affinity for each other. Its been stated several places that its almost impossible to get high from 2nd hand cannabis smoke. (NOTE: Obviously does not apply to hotboxing, where the smoke goes directly into the air instead of to your lungs and then the air.

Also, I've read that "holding it" for endless seconds actually does nothing in terms of the amount of THC grabbed by the lungs. When you inhale the absorption is virtually instantaneous. What you think is an extra rush is actually just oxygen deprivation from not breathing for a while. Try it; hold your breath for a minute and "get high" naturally. (Can't wait for some anti-drug bozo Puritan to introduce legislation regulating the holding of breath.)
 
2018-07-17 12:40:09 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.

Because they are not the 'same sized doses'. Edibles usually contain a highly concentrated dose of hash oil or butter. You are eating many, many times the dosage of a regular smoked bowl.


LOL, I once accidentally OD's on cannabutter. I had made some starting with two pounds (32 oz) of butter and three ounces (about 85 grams) of fairly-decent but low-end buds.* I ended up with 22 oz of cannabutter, with a potency of perhaps 85 gm weed / original 32 oz butter =  2.6 grams of cannabis per ounce of cannabutter (I assume that a proportional amount of active ingredient is lost in the butter-infused plant material that gets thrown out).

Now we normally use two ounces of cannabutter with two ounces of regular butter, to make Krusteaz Triple Chocolate Chunk cookies, except we bake them in an 8x8 glass pan and end up with 16 awesome little squares of chocolate chip cannabars. So each square has 2.6 grams X 2 oz / 16 bars = a third of a gram per bar.

So I'd run out of chocolate bars, and I had some absolutely delicious looking oversized 24-grain sprouted hippy-bread... and I pigged out on six huge slices of toast slathered with cannabutter and honey. After the fact, I realized I'd used about an ounce of cannabutter. On my. After about an hour I just lost track of time. For 12 hours. I also slept for eight hours, and woke up feeling wonderful.

*I make cannabutter by simmering the weed in a large soup kettle with water, with the butter floating on top, for 4-6 hours. It's done when there is a nice rainbow scum on the top and it resembles toxic waste. It then gets ladled through a strainer into a large water jug (the plastic is supposedly BPA free and leech-proof.) The slurry then goes through a potato ricer with three steel filter disks, where most of the remaining water and butter is squeezed out. Then it cools in an ice bath for maybe 30 minutes, then goes into the fridge. Next morning, I have a disk of dark green cannabutter solidified over a residue of very dark brown water. The butter disk, bottom scrapped of plant residue, goes back into the pot with fresh water. Rinse and repeat two or three times (without the ricer), until the water under the solidified butter disk is clear. Scrape off the last little bit of plant matter on the bottom of the disk and you have very light pastel green delicious cannabutter. I cut it into 4 ounce sticks, like regular butter. Serendipity: the disk thickness for this amount of cannabutter is exactly the thickness of regular butter sticks.
 
2018-07-17 12:42:18 PM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Sgygus: Giant Clown Shoe: Sgygus: Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.

YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all

wrong. ignorant and wrong.

Stupid and inexperienced and stupid.

You're telling a guy who bought Thai stick in the 70s he's inexperienced?

Currently holding Lemon Sour Diesel as my daytime and Purple Kush as my nighttime.


Currently, J-1 or Dream Queen for day, Romulan for night, here.
 
2018-07-17 12:45:37 PM  

GanjSmokr: Giant Clown Shoe: Sgygus: Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.

YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all

wrong. ignorant and wrong.

No, they're right.  Edibles work differently on different people.  For example, there are usually 10 "servings" in a container of whatever you're buying - I'll eat them all and end up puffing my vape in a few hours because the edibles did nothing.  I have tried several variants and brands.  Edibles just don't do anything for me.  Most likely has something to do with built up tolerance in my case I would guess.


You're doing it wrong and wasting weed due to the residual effects. Sober up for a week, then resume. You will find you get high with less.
 
2018-07-17 01:01:57 PM  

Harlee: Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.

Edibles go through the stomach where some of the cannabinoids and terpenes get destroyed or modified, and then (I think) get processed through the liver. They then get gradually released to the bloodstream and brain. Cannabis smoke goes through the lungs directly to the bloodstream, for a much faster and less modified experience.

It's even trippier to inject the marijuana directly into the eyeball, which is much closer to the brain.


Just so you know, the above single sentence paragraph is snark.
 
2018-07-17 01:09:30 PM  

Luse: Also obligatory and entertaining.

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I like that general attitude of the reefer addicts. They weren't challenging the statement that they shouldn't be driving. It didn't impair at least that level of judgement. That's ideal.

Compare and contrast with the dumb shiat your average drunk would do... (/kill).
 
2018-07-17 06:52:05 PM  

Harlee: jaylectricity: fusillade762: Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.

When inhaled, delta-9-THC remains unchanged. It simply passes the blood-brain barrier and gets you high instantly. However, when eaten or drank, delta-9-THC breaks down to become 11-hydroxy-THC, a faster acting and more psychotropic form of the chemical.

In other words, once your tasty edible has been digested, it's essentially become a super-powered form of cannabis that's totally different from what you've encountered through smoking. Stronger highs and even hallucinations have been recorded.

Also, the entire dose gets absorbed into your system when you eat it. When you smoke it only the THC that clings to your lungs gets absorbed and you exhale the rest. Sure, you can hold it in longer and probably get most of the smoke to attach to your lungs, but it's still not the entire "dose".

The sources I've read indicate that very little THC escapes back into the general atmosphere. THC and receptors in the lungs have a huge affinity for each other. Its been stated several places that its almost impossible to get high from 2nd hand cannabis smoke. (NOTE: Obviously does not apply to hotboxing, where the smoke goes directly into the air instead of to your lungs and then the air.

Also, I've read that "holding it" for endless seconds actually does nothing in terms of the amount of THC grabbed by the lungs. When you inhale the absorption is virtually instantaneous. What you think is an extra rush is actually just oxygen deprivation from not breathing for a while. Try it; hold your breath for a minute and "get high" naturally. (Can't wait for some anti-drug bozo Puritan to introduce legislation regulating the ...


A girl I knew in college insisted the optimal length of time to hold a hit was 14 seconds.
 
2018-07-17 07:27:07 PM  
Poor Becky.
 
2018-07-17 07:48:58 PM  

jaylectricity: fusillade762: Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.

When inhaled, delta-9-THC remains unchanged. It simply passes the blood-brain barrier and gets you high instantly. However, when eaten or drank, delta-9-THC breaks down to become 11-hydroxy-THC, a faster acting and more psychotropic form of the chemical.

In other words, once your tasty edible has been digested, it's essentially become a super-powered form of cannabis that's totally different from what you've encountered through smoking. Stronger highs and even hallucinations have been recorded.

Also, the entire dose gets absorbed into your system when you eat it. When you smoke it only the THC that clings to your lungs gets absorbed and you exhale the rest. Sure, you can hold it in longer and probably get most of the smoke to attach to your lungs, but it's still not the entire "dose".


I quit the little bit of smoking I did, less than a gram a week, in favor of a vape pen and an edible at bedtime.  I like not having a cough all the time, which smoking weed was giving me, almost like having a cold all the time.
 
2018-07-17 08:14:24 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: jaylectricity: fusillade762: Destructor: One thing that just mystifies the crap out of me... How can two same sized doses of "The Debils Cabbage" have different intensity factors and durations based on the method of indigestion. If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked. (assuming decarbox'd, etc.)

YMMV, of course.

When inhaled, delta-9-THC remains unchanged. It simply passes the blood-brain barrier and gets you high instantly. However, when eaten or drank, delta-9-THC breaks down to become 11-hydroxy-THC, a faster acting and more psychotropic form of the chemical.

In other words, once your tasty edible has been digested, it's essentially become a super-powered form of cannabis that's totally different from what you've encountered through smoking. Stronger highs and even hallucinations have been recorded.

Also, the entire dose gets absorbed into your system when you eat it. When you smoke it only the THC that clings to your lungs gets absorbed and you exhale the rest. Sure, you can hold it in longer and probably get most of the smoke to attach to your lungs, but it's still not the entire "dose".

I quit the little bit of smoking I did, less than a gram a week, in favor of a vape pen and an edible at bedtime.  I like not having a cough all the time, which smoking weed was giving me, almost like having a cold all the time.


You coughed all the time due to smoking less than a gram a week?

Maybe you should see a doctor.
 
2018-07-17 08:50:27 PM  

Harlee: The sources I've read indicate that very little THC escapes back into the general atmosphere. THC and receptors in the lungs have a huge affinity for each other. Its been stated several places that its almost impossible to get high from 2nd hand cannabis smoke. (NOTE: Obviously does not apply to hotboxing, where the smoke goes directly into the air instead of to your lungs and then the air.

Also, I've read that "holding it" for endless seconds actually does nothing in terms of the amount of THC grabbed by the lungs. When you inhale the absorption is virtually instantaneous. What you think is an extra rush is actually just oxygen deprivation from not breathing for a while. Try it; hold your breath for a minute and "get high" naturally. (Can't wait for some anti-drug bozo Puritan to introduce legislation regulating the holding of breath.)


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I noticed no difference the smoke in for a short period of time. Thanks for the tip!

/Written, but not dictated, while high. Tee hee.
 
2018-07-18 06:04:21 AM  

Sgygus: Destructor: If you eat an edible, it lasts way longer and is more intense compared to the same dose smoked.

YMMV: If you eat an edible, you feel nothing at all.  It not only happens to some people all of the time, it happens to regular imbibers some of the time.

/edibles be wack y'all


You've been eating the wrong edibles, matey.  I use taffy chews to control serious amounts of pain atm, but I've also used gummies and other edibles.  As long as it's not complete bunk that some guy sold you claiming it contained THC, you're gonna get farked up.  It's not optional, or sometimes - it's every time.  Exactly how much, for how long, and what kinda farked up can vary, but you will not just shrug and not notice anything.  Well, ok I sit corrected - you may for about anywhere from a few minutes to an hour, depending on what you were eating etc. - but you sure as hell won't be unaffected for long.  I think the worst runup time I've personally experienced was about 2 hours, but that was once.  It's usually about 30 minutes or so for me before it gets to the point that it's obvious to me it's rolling in.

/and the length of the effect is why it's edibles over smoking for me
//when you're interested in not hurting as much, longer effect time is pretty much gold
///I have yet to meet a single soul that's consumed known to be effective edibles and could honestly claim little or no effect, barring a couple things that had very little THC in them by label
 
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