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2018-07-15 05:03:32 PM  
Well, turns out atheists always wanted to go to church, they just couldn't stand the people who attended.
 
2018-07-15 05:23:35 PM  
In fairness, the Unitarians DO have really fun "Atheists vs Theists" softball games, and they DO accept openly gay and lesbian clergy. And you know how lesbians feel about the softball...just sayin'...
 
2018-07-15 05:35:06 PM  
according to a cold-case detective

Well if the World Nut Daily says he says so I guess it must be true.
 
2018-07-15 05:38:17 PM  
What can I say? I'm a sucker for pipe organs
 
2018-07-15 05:38:30 PM  
Wing Nut Daily? LOL, no.
 
2018-07-15 05:39:38 PM  
Simpsons did it.

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2018-07-15 05:39:41 PM  
I gotta admit, for the past two months I've been attending The Church of What's Happening Now as much as I can
The Church Of What's Happening Now: #599 - Kate Quigley
Youtube vQs4UaljeJo
 
2018-07-15 05:44:29 PM  
Breaking news: social gatherings of atheists with regular dates and times now "Churches". Also, atheists attending churches on rise.

Based on the concepts of TFA, my college philosophy class and my ethics study group were "church attendance."
 
2018-07-15 05:44:52 PM  

hubiestubert: In fairness, the Unitarians DO have really fun "Atheists vs Theists" softball games, and they DO accept openly gay and lesbian clergy. And you know how lesbians feel about the softball...just sayin'...


I've seen videos. I saw a softball bat went in a player's pitchers mitt. If you get my drift

/wink-wink nudge-nudge
 
2018-07-15 05:45:25 PM  
Free wine and cookies... where is the downside?
 
2018-07-15 05:45:57 PM  
Sheeeit. A buddy a mine and would get crazy stoned and go to the tv evangelist churches in Dallas, specifically Robert Tilton's word of faith family church. It was a blast at first but church is boring no matter which one you attend.

/Maybe except for the cheap organ music.
 
2018-07-15 05:46:01 PM  
He suggests American millennials are not so much abandoning organized religion to become secular, science-loving humanists. Instead, his research shows they still cling to belief in the soul, divine energy, and "mystical realities."


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2018-07-15 05:46:40 PM  

Elliot8654: Breaking news: social gatherings of atheists with regular dates and times now "Churches". Also, atheists attending churches on rise.

Based on the concepts of TFA, my college philosophy class and my ethics study group were "church attendance."


For the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Happy Hours are services!
 
2018-07-15 05:48:43 PM  
Other sites have been rightly banned by Fark. Why not the shiatty WND nutter enclave?
 
2018-07-15 05:49:05 PM  
I Just Want What the Protestants Have

(shamelessly copy-pasta'd from https://notinmygoodpagansuburbs.​tumblr​.com/post/175792072979/i-just-want-wha​t-the-protestants-have )

I want crappy pagan romance novels
Like where a pioneer woman moves out west alone to start a new and difficult life and the strapping young cowboy makes life in the desert more bearable and through Freyja's guidance they will make both the crops and their love grow

I want my holidays to come with themed chocolates
Little suns in the grocery store for summer solstice, and chocolate snow drops for Imbolc

I want temples to Apollo on the street in town with all the churches, between the Lutherans and the Methodists

I want pagan preschools filled with three-year-olds planting vervain in terra cotta pots and fingerpainting images of themselves holding hands with grinning goddesses

I want jovial teasing at potlucks based on friendly stereotypes, the Catholics drank all the wine and the Unitarian Universalists can't decide what they want to eat and we've been at this park five minutes and the pagans already took off their shoes

I want a pagan music channel on the radio with shiatty pop songs about keeping your oaths to Thor that have too much guitar

I want to say "oh my gods" and "holy spear of Lugh" just like my friends say "Jesus Christ" and "oh my lord"

I want classic holiday recipes like barley bread for Lughnasadh that I can share at work to balance out all the Christmas cookies

I want my religious decision to walk or bike instead of driving alone for the health of the sacred land to be just as valid as my Mormon friend's decision not to drink

I want a state legislator to offer a prayer to Ma'at that their actions be in the name of Truth and Justice because if we're going to put religion in our government we should make sure it's not just that one religion or we risk interpreting both religious freedom and the concept of prayer in a way that only applies to Protestants

I just want autumn equinox off work dammit
 
2018-07-15 05:49:22 PM  
I saw an atheist church once.  I couldn't believe it.
 
2018-07-15 05:52:26 PM  
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2018-07-15 05:53:28 PM  
A good way to make the world seem more sensible is to stop reading WingNut Daily.

/ TRY THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK TO BE LESS OF A DIPSHIAT
 
2018-07-15 05:54:07 PM  
This ties into the idea that religion offers people comfort. So if you are atheist, and you are also a person who seeks comfort of the sort that science can't provide, what do you do? Maybe create something very much like a religion in that it offers that comfort, but leave out the bits that you don't believe in.

I know there are those who call such people 'weak' but I don't criticize those people for wanting that comfort. If someone wants to believe they will see their dead loved one again, in non zombie form, why the hell would I have a problem with that? I don't.
 
2018-07-15 05:58:01 PM  

Sarah Jessica Farker: I Just Want What the Protestants Have

(shamelessly copy-pasta'd from https://notinmygoodpagansuburbs.t​umblr.com/post/175792072979/i-just-wan​t-what-the-protestants-have )

I want crappy pagan romance novels
Like where a pioneer woman moves out west alone to start a new and difficult life and the strapping young cowboy makes life in the desert more bearable and through Freyja's guidance they will make both the crops and their love grow

I want my holidays to come with themed chocolates
Little suns in the grocery store for summer solstice, and chocolate snow drops for Imbolc

I want temples to Apollo on the street in town with all the churches, between the Lutherans and the Methodists

I want pagan preschools filled with three-year-olds planting vervain in terra cotta pots and fingerpainting images of themselves holding hands with grinning goddesses

I want jovial teasing at potlucks based on friendly stereotypes, the Catholics drank all the wine and the Unitarian Universalists can't decide what they want to eat and we've been at this park five minutes and the pagans already took off their shoes

I want a pagan music channel on the radio with shiatty pop songs about keeping your oaths to Thor that have too much guitar

I want to say "oh my gods" and "holy spear of Lugh" just like my friends say "Jesus Christ" and "oh my lord"

I want classic holiday recipes like barley bread for Lughnasadh that I can share at work to balance out all the Christmas cookies

I want my religious decision to walk or bike instead of driving alone for the health of the sacred land to be just as valid as my Mormon friend's decision not to drink

I want a state legislator to offer a prayer to Ma'at that their actions be in the name of Truth and Justice because if we're going to put religion in our government we should make sure it's not just that one religion or we risk interpreting both religious freedom and the concept of prayer in a way that only applies to Protestants

I just want autumn equinox off work dammit


farking get popular then. No one gave the Christians that stuff in exchange for wistful tumblr posts, they went out and made it happen.
 
2018-07-15 05:58:17 PM  

Birnone: This ties into the idea that religion offers people comfort. So if you are atheist, and you are also a person who seeks comfort of the sort that science can't provide, what do you do? Maybe create something very much like a religion in that it offers that comfort, but leave out the bits that you don't believe in.

I know there are those who call such people 'weak' but I don't criticize those people for wanting that comfort. If someone wants to believe they will see their dead loved one again, in non zombie form, why the hell would I have a problem with that? I don't.


Thats called "social interaction." Its not weakness. When my grandfather died, my mom and i met up with relatives and friends. We mourned, told stories, and supported each other. Thats not religion

The support is understandable. You will meet your loved ones. The problem is when that statement is followed by "unless you break our rules", like eating meat on a friday, or not believing in our religion, or being gay.

The hope is understandable. But the manipulation of that hope is evil.
 
2018-07-15 05:58:28 PM  

mekkab: I gotta admit, for the past two months I've been attending The Church of What's Happening Now as much as I can
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/vQs4Ualj​eJo]

The Church of What's Happening Now

was 'The Reverend Leroy' (Flip Wilson) in the early 70's
/old farker is damned old
https://youtu.be/cgwvSTzWF6w
 
2018-07-15 06:00:55 PM  

ybishop: [img.fark.net image 480x480]


With Osteen, he has an amazing sermon, up there with a couple of churches that I went to, and the Church in the Park that I went to today.  But a few things rub me wrong:

-He seeks applause
-The sermons I've been to spike of us (not the preacher) being thankful
-Precisely how many times can one man say it's a miracle or blessing that they got a sports arena?
-Is it a miracle or blessing to get a sports arena?
 
2018-07-15 06:01:57 PM  

Birnone: If someone wants to believe they will see their dead loved one again, in non zombie form, why the hell would I have a problem with that? I don't.


Am I weird that I'd find it cooler to see dead loved ones IN zombie form?
 
2018-07-15 06:02:52 PM  
I've been living half a year with my protestant inlaws in a small town, and I although I've never been a Christian of any kind, half of my blood family are Frenchy Catholics and the tiny town Catholic church is a Frenchy Catholic church.

I've been thinking of going not because I have a whiff of belief in the Christian god, but because I want to hear people say that charity and goodness and loving thy neighbor is a thing that humans should do, and hear that people don't need to share my beliefs to share my values.

Also a couple hours a week where my inlaws would not be seen dead. And if I ever became a Christian it sure as heck would not be part of the protestant tradition from which this supply side Jesus shiat sprang.
 
2018-07-15 06:04:36 PM  
"Going to church" is my code for going in the garage and taking a few bong hits.
 
2018-07-15 06:05:10 PM  
Not so CSB, bros:

The only true Christian that I personally know is my brother, due to the fact that his name is Christian. He is an atheist. I still wonder why my parents, who are agnostic, named him Christian. I used to sing sister Christian *at* him when we were kids, then I would promptly get punched, or something the like. He's the older one.

/This chuck of rambling is brought to you by boredom and pain meds due to kidney stones
 
2018-07-15 06:05:46 PM  

hubiestubert: In fairness, the Unitarians DO have really fun "Atheists vs Theists" softball games, and they DO accept openly gay and lesbian clergy. And you know how lesbians feel about the softball...just sayin'...


I've actually been considering joining a UU church...
 
2018-07-15 06:11:05 PM  

Birnone: If someone wants to believe they will see their dead loved one again, in non zombie form, why the hell would I have a problem with that? I don't.


And if that same person denied you your rights based on the false promise of an afterlife?
 
2018-07-15 06:11:25 PM  
An atheist mega-church is a shareholders' meeting in a stadium.
 
2018-07-15 06:13:54 PM  
"'Atheist churches' have been formed across the country," he says,

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2018-07-15 06:15:38 PM  

Watubi: Birnone: If someone wants to believe they will see their dead loved one again, in non zombie form, why the hell would I have a problem with that? I don't.

And if that same person denied you your rights based on the false promise of an afterlife?


How is he being denied his rights?
 
2018-07-15 06:15:39 PM  
Yes. Some infinitesimally small portion of atheists like to go to meetings. Usually the ones who have gone to church all their lives.

They represent a negligible proportion of atheists so let's write a new story about them every week.
 
2018-07-15 06:15:53 PM  
Maybe what Jesus said in the Gospel has value even without a magical back story.

aka "The golden rule"
 
2018-07-15 06:16:06 PM  

BrerRobot: A buddy a mine and would get crazy stoned and go to the tv evangelist churches in Dallas, specifically Robert Tilton's word of faith family church.


Tilton is the one I used to watch from time to time back in the old days. He was so farking obviously grifting that it amazed me that anyone fell for it at all. Of course, now we have President Donny and my ability to be amazed has been surgically removed.
 
2018-07-15 06:16:10 PM  
"More shocking? Even 18 percent of self-proclaimed atheists said they believed in some kind of higher spiritual power."

You aren't an atheist then.
 
2018-07-15 06:18:34 PM  

Watubi: Birnone: If someone wants to believe they will see their dead loved one again, in non zombie form, why the hell would I have a problem with that? I don't.

And if that same person denied you your rights based on the false promise of an afterlife?


And if frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their butts so much.

C'mon man.
 
2018-07-15 06:21:09 PM  

almejita: Watubi: Birnone: If someone wants to believe they will see their dead loved one again, in non zombie form, why the hell would I have a problem with that? I don't.

And if that same person denied you your rights based on the false promise of an afterlife?

How is he being denied his rights?


Gay marriage.
 
2018-07-15 06:21:17 PM  
One of the perks of atheism is not having to get churched up every Sunday morning and go out when you want to stay home, drink coffee, watch Meet the Press, and take an early nap.

Why would I want to give that up?
 
2018-07-15 06:22:44 PM  
I swar' to gawd I will pistol whip anyone who plays Poison's Give Me Something To Believe In (really don't)
 
2018-07-15 06:22:54 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Well, turns out atheists always wanted to go to church, they just couldn't stand the people who attended.


"I don't have anything against Jesus; I just don't like his fan club."
 
2018-07-15 06:23:16 PM  

Tabletop: Sarah Jessica Farker: I Just Want What the Protestants Have

(shamelessly copy-pasta'd from https://notinmygoodpagansuburbs.t​umblr.com/post/175792072979/i-just-wan​t-what-the-protestants-have )

I want crappy pagan romance novels
Like where a pioneer woman moves out west alone to start a new and difficult life and the strapping young cowboy makes life in the desert more bearable and through Freyja's guidance they will make both the crops and their love grow

I want my holidays to come with themed chocolates
Little suns in the grocery store for summer solstice, and chocolate snow drops for Imbolc

I want temples to Apollo on the street in town with all the churches, between the Lutherans and the Methodists

I want pagan preschools filled with three-year-olds planting vervain in terra cotta pots and fingerpainting images of themselves holding hands with grinning goddesses

I want jovial teasing at potlucks based on friendly stereotypes, the Catholics drank all the wine and the Unitarian Universalists can't decide what they want to eat and we've been at this park five minutes and the pagans already took off their shoes

I want a pagan music channel on the radio with shiatty pop songs about keeping your oaths to Thor that have too much guitar

I want to say "oh my gods" and "holy spear of Lugh" just like my friends say "Jesus Christ" and "oh my lord"

I want classic holiday recipes like barley bread for Lughnasadh that I can share at work to balance out all the Christmas cookies

I want my religious decision to walk or bike instead of driving alone for the health of the sacred land to be just as valid as my Mormon friend's decision not to drink

I want a state legislator to offer a prayer to Ma'at that their actions be in the name of Truth and Justice because if we're going to put religion in our government we should make sure it's not just that one religion or we risk interpreting both religious freedom and the concept of prayer in a way that only applies to Protestan ...

farking get popular then. No one gave the Christians that stuff in exchange for wistful tumblr posts, they went out and made it happen....


By slaughtering the pagans and jacking their stuff.
 
2018-07-15 06:24:36 PM  

LittleSmitty: "Going to church" is my code for going in the garage and taking a few bong hits.


The Rastafari call a kind of a bong made out of coconuts or wood a "chalice" and according to their faith, when they smoke ganja, they are partaking of a holy sacrament.

Jamaica is a very interesting place. It has more churches per square mile than any other country in the world.
 
2018-07-15 06:25:00 PM  
Sorry there idiots but this atheist is not going to a church except for the requisite funerals and marriages.

I am so uncomfortable in a church all I can do is just stare at the floor.
 
hej
2018-07-15 06:25:59 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Well, turns out atheists always wanted to go to church, they just couldn't stand the people who attended didn't want to be forced to practice nonsense.

 
2018-07-15 06:26:37 PM  

berylman: I swar' to gawd I will pistol whip anyone who plays Poison's Give Me Something To Believe In (really don't)


What about Styx and "Show Me the Way"?
 
2018-07-15 06:28:30 PM  
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2018-07-15 06:29:42 PM  

no_tan_lines: mekkab: I gotta admit, for the past two months I've been attending The Church of What's Happening Now as much as I can
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/vQs4Ualj​eJo]

The Church of What's Happening Now was 'The Reverend Leroy' (Flip Wilson) in the early 70's
/old farker is damned old
https://youtu.be/cgwvSTzWF6w


I remember my granny taking, my brother, cousins, and I, to a church like that near Cabrini Green in Chicago. I kid you farking not that this guy was there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_%22​M​agic%22_Juan .

This was his buddy that pointed a gun and me and my friend when we teenagers
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/li​f​e-in-prison-for-king-of-the-imperial-i​nsane-vice-lords/
 
2018-07-15 06:31:54 PM  
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I am sure at some point this will be needed in this discussion...
 
2018-07-15 06:33:42 PM  

Foundling: Maybe what Jesus said in the Gospel has value even without a magical back story.

aka "The golden rule"


People won't take good advice unless there's a story to go with it.

Living among Mormons, I see it in action on a daily basis. I could give a shiat whether Joseph pulled all of it out of his ass when I see the effect it has on the community.

I can't speak for everyone in the negative column with pill habits and depression and all of that, but watching my peers grow up, it was the ones who took it way too seriously, or even literally, who ended up with problems.

It's allegory.
 
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