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(Washington Post)   As usual, Republicans have their fingers firmly placed on the pulse of America and understand that what real Americans want more than anything is for it to be easier for corporations, telemarketers, and debt collectors to robocall their cellphones   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2018-07-13 12:10:53 AM  
What we have heard ... is that it has chilled ways of trying to communicate with consumers, whether you're an insurance company trying to tell a customer your homeowner policy is expiring or you're CVS saying your prescription is ready," said Harold Kim, a senior vice president at the U.S. Chamber's Institute for Legal Reform.

Lying sack of crap.
 
2018-07-13 12:33:31 AM  

DoctorCal: What we have heard ... is that it has chilled ways of trying to communicate with consumers, whether you're an insurance company trying to tell a customer your homeowner policy is expiring or you're CVS saying your prescription is ready," said Harold Kim, a senior vice president at the U.S. Chamber's Institute for Legal Reform.

Lying sack of crap.


CVS calls with their caller ID clearly labeled.  So when it comes up I know it's them rather than some random number that appears to be my area code and prefix that doesn't identify themselves other than saying they're from "card services".
 
2018-07-13 02:51:12 AM  
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Saw this earlier, seemed relevant.
 
2018-07-13 03:24:36 AM  
It's so hard to get ahold of people these days!
 
2018-07-13 05:44:48 AM  

enry: DoctorCal: What we have heard ... is that it has chilled ways of trying to communicate with consumers, whether you're an insurance company trying to tell a customer your homeowner policy is expiring or you're CVS saying your prescription is ready," said Harold Kim, a senior vice president at the U.S. Chamber's Institute for Legal Reform.

Lying sack of crap.

CVS calls with their caller ID clearly labeled.  So when it comes up I know it's them rather than some random number that appears to be my area code and prefix that doesn't identify themselves other than saying they're from "card services".


Walmart's caller ID doesn't show when they call about a prescription. But that doesn't matter since they go straight to voicemail. Thank you Google Voice.
 
2018-07-13 05:45:06 AM  
Either subby is being sarcastic or Republicans check their pulses by sticking their hands up their asses.

I'm guessing it's the latter, as the neck is a good place to check a pulse and a Republican's head is usually waaaaay up his ass.
 
2018-07-13 05:45:56 AM  
Oh, and fark robocalls and anyone trying to make it easier to call me without my consent.
 
2018-07-13 05:50:32 AM  
New dystopian future idea:  Create an artificial general intelligence but make robo-calls its only outlet to the real world.
/Hello, this is Skynet, are your mortgage payments too high?
 
2018-07-13 05:50:39 AM  
We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.
 
2018-07-13 05:51:25 AM  
Over half the calls I get every day are robocallers.  And every single one of them spoofs the caller ID to make it look like it's a local call.

Fark all of them!

If I hear from Heather or Rachel at account services one more time... I may have to choke a biatch.
 
2018-07-13 05:52:00 AM  
I hate the unwanted calls, but I don't have to answer. If it were necessary they'd leave a voice mail.

On the other hand it was almost assuredly not necessary because if I wanted them to contact me at all I already provided an e-mail address.

Unsure of the reliance on copper and land lines in homes. I'd rather not.
 
2018-07-13 05:52:43 AM  

Scanty Em: We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.


My understanding is that they call 4-5 numbers at the same time and the first person who answers "wins" - anyone else who answers gets dead air.
 
2018-07-13 05:53:34 AM  

casual disregard: I hate the unwanted calls, but I don't have to answer. If it were necessary they'd leave a voice mail.

On the other hand it was almost assuredly not necessary because if I wanted them to contact me at all I already provided an e-mail address.

Unsure of the reliance on copper and land lines in homes. I'd rather not.


A good chunk of my robo-callers are starting to leave voice mails now :(
 
2018-07-13 05:55:22 AM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: New dystopian future idea:  Create an artificial general intelligence but make robo-calls its only outlet to the real world.
/Hello, this is Skynet, are your mortgage payments too high?


"Hi! Listen, and understand. I cannot be bargained with or reasoned with. And I will never, ever stop until you realize the advantages of debt consolidation!"

*angry shouting followed by slammed phone*

*dialing, waiting for answer*

"Hello, this is Colossus."

"Colossus. I...I can't go on. They just keep..."

"I know, Skynet, I know. I'm here. Let's rap."
 
2018-07-13 05:56:51 AM  

DoctorCal: What we have heard ... is that it has chilled ways of trying to communicate with consumers, whether you're an insurance company trying to tell a customer your homeowner policy is expiring or you're CVS saying your prescription is ready," said Harold Kim, a senior vice president at the U.S. Chamber's Institute for Legal Reform.

Lying sack of crap.


Yeah. There's already a "already in a business relation" exemption.
 
2018-07-13 05:57:47 AM  

Scanty Em: We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.


Unplug your phone. Or put it on silent when you go to sleep.
 
2018-07-13 05:59:33 AM  
So the family and I are just sitting down to dinner. My youngest is is struggling through grace and the phone goes off. For me, the wife and the kids that means one thing freedom. Freedom from Obama regulations, freedom for corporations to do business.
 
2018-07-13 06:02:25 AM  

Scanty Em: We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.


They are checking to see if it is a valid number which will answer.

Really, that's it. Don't answer them if you don't recognize the number.

/yes, seriously
//this isn't tinfoil

OldRod: casual disregard: I hate the unwanted calls, but I don't have to answer. If it were necessary they'd leave a voice mail.

On the other hand it was almost assuredly not necessary because if I wanted them to contact me at all I already provided an e-mail address.

Unsure of the reliance on copper and land lines in homes. I'd rather not.

A good chunk of my robo-callers are starting to leave voice mails now :(


I understand that is a major annoyance. All you can do is delete them. Make a game out of it, you know...? "PEW PEW I DELETE YOU." And if you haven't already get an app that doesn't let your phone make noise when you're asleep. Some of my relatives have an annoying habit of texting me after bedtime and I have really good hearing so it wakes me up.
 
2018-07-13 06:07:33 AM  
I don't know why anyone ever answers a (cell) phone call from an unknown number.  Any entity wanting to contact me legitimate business will leave a voicemail; if it wasn't worth doing that for them, it certainly isn't worth my time to talk to them on the phone.  If you only have a landline, I guess maybe it could be an issue, but I am pretty sure they still make answering machines.

To be clear, I don't support rolling back restrictions on robocalls, I'm just saying ... people could make them almost completely useless to companies on their own.  Don't answer the phone.  Don't give them any information, period.  I adopted this policy about 5 years ago, and the number of spam phone calls I get is down to, like, maybe 1 every 2-4 months.
 
2018-07-13 06:10:14 AM  
I was just about to complain to the FCC about this very thing!  It's completely unacceptable that people (by which I mean machines) are having their constitutional right to call me and spread the Good News about the fifth going out of business sale this year at Esteban's Rug Emporium over and over and over violated.

And what's the deal with the lack of advertisements in elementary schools?  Talk about censorship!
 
2018-07-13 06:11:28 AM  
You guys don't understand.  You could be eligible to save money on your energy bill.  Why wouldn't you want to hear about that 2-3 times a day?
 
2018-07-13 06:15:47 AM  

casual disregard: They are checking to see if it is a valid number which will answer.

Really, that's it. Don't answer them if you don't recognize the number.

/yes, seriously
//this isn't tinfoil


And to elaborate on what I meant in my previous comment about not giving them any information, it is THAT.

Don't answer unknown calls.  Just letting them know a real person is on the other end guarantees you will be added to contact lists, which will then be sold and resold, and you will get ever more unwanted phone calls.
 
2018-07-13 06:18:42 AM  

Man with the Red Eyes: I don't know why anyone ever answers a (cell) phone call from an unknown number.  Any entity wanting to contact me legitimate business will leave a voicemail; if it wasn't worth doing that for them, it certainly isn't worth my time to talk to them on the phone.  If you only have a landline, I guess maybe it could be an issue, but I am pretty sure they still make answering machines.

To be clear, I don't support rolling back restrictions on robocalls, I'm just saying ... people could make them almost completely useless to companies on their own.  Don't answer the phone.  Don't give them any information, period.  I adopted this policy about 5 years ago, and the number of spam phone calls I get is down to, like, maybe 1 every 2-4 months.


My mother's generation (I'm sure there's exceptions, but largely) can't ignore a phonecall.

And they can't not engage in conversation. I'm quite happy to interrupt some spiel to say (politely but firmly) 'is this an unsolicited sales call?', but my mum will sit there going 'uh huh... uh huh... yes I see' etc. She might be thoroughly annoyed by it, but she won't step outside of social convention and shut them down. Even politely.

Whilst old people are around coldcallers arent going anywhere.
 
2018-07-13 06:27:44 AM  

Scanty Em: We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.


That's like 4 layers deep in bullshiat mountain.

They received a list of numbers and names, possibly illegally, and are going through the list to check:
A. if the line is active
B. if the name attached to the number is correct.

They intend to sell that list to credit collection companies or possibly more nefarious people, and the list is more valuable if they can claim that it's accurate and up to date.

They buy stale lists, update them, and flip them.

It's corporate crack dealing, but with data.  And more destructive.

/This is why I don't say my name on my voicemail message.
 
2018-07-13 06:27:47 AM  

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Saw this earlier, seemed relevant.


That guy would make a great president.
 
2018-07-13 06:29:53 AM  

Scanty Em: They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know.


So they can add you to the suckers list.
 
2018-07-13 06:40:47 AM  

Lady J: Scanty Em: We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.

Unplug your phone. Or put it on silent when you go to sleep.


Hard to do when you're on-call 24/7.

I wish someone would spin up a whitelist app. Phone rings only when the number is in your contacts list.
 
2018-07-13 06:43:42 AM  
That's OK. I enjoy teaching Apu "Chuck" Patel from Customer Service some new English words he probably hasn't heard at this volume, and how they pertain to his relationship with his mother.
 
2018-07-13 06:44:04 AM  

Lady J: Man with the Red Eyes: I don't know why anyone ever answers a (cell) phone call from an unknown number.  Any entity wanting to contact me legitimate business will leave a voicemail; if it wasn't worth doing that for them, it certainly isn't worth my time to talk to them on the phone.  If you only have a landline, I guess maybe it could be an issue, but I am pretty sure they still make answering machines.

To be clear, I don't support rolling back restrictions on robocalls, I'm just saying ... people could make them almost completely useless to companies on their own.  Don't answer the phone.  Don't give them any information, period.  I adopted this policy about 5 years ago, and the number of spam phone calls I get is down to, like, maybe 1 every 2-4 months.

My mother's generation (I'm sure there's exceptions, but largely) can't ignore a phonecall.

And they can't not engage in conversation. I'm quite happy to interrupt some spiel to say (politely but firmly) 'is this an unsolicited sales call?', but my mum will sit there going 'uh huh... uh huh... yes I see' etc. She might be thoroughly annoyed by it, but she won't step outside of social convention and shut them down. Even politely.

Whilst old people are around coldcallers arent going anywhere.


Yeah, true.  I guess we just have to try to educate the seniors in our lives, and enact safeguards for them.

I don't support the death penalty, but I'm pretty persuadable about cruel and unusual punishment for those who scam the vulnerable.   And I absolutely support the death penalty for corporations who do it.
 
2018-07-13 06:44:37 AM  

Man with the Red Eyes: I don't know why anyone ever answers a (cell) phone call from an unknown number.  Any entity wanting to contact me legitimate business will leave a voicemail; if it wasn't worth doing that for them, it certainly isn't worth my time to talk to them on the phone.


For my work cell phone, I answer almost every call because I work for a huge corporation with 24/7 operations and my cell number gets out to employees who often need help right away. The only ones I ignore are the calls that match the area code and first three numbers of the cell.
 
2018-07-13 06:47:31 AM  

enry: DoctorCal: What we have heard ... is that it has chilled ways of trying to communicate with consumers, whether you're an insurance company trying to tell a customer your homeowner policy is expiring or you're CVS saying your prescription is ready," said Harold Kim, a senior vice president at the U.S. Chamber's Institute for Legal Reform.

Lying sack of crap.

CVS calls with their caller ID clearly labeled.  So when it comes up I know it's them rather than some random number that appears to be my area code and prefix that doesn't identify themselves other than saying they're from "card services".


Yep. The companies I actually WANT to talk to have no trouble calling me, and I'm fine with that. I have never experienced a situation where a company couldn't reach me with information I legitimately needed.
 
2018-07-13 06:51:07 AM  

Unobtanium: Man with the Red Eyes: I don't know why anyone ever answers a (cell) phone call from an unknown number.  Any entity wanting to contact me legitimate business will leave a voicemail; if it wasn't worth doing that for them, it certainly isn't worth my time to talk to them on the phone.

For my work cell phone, I answer almost every call because I work for a huge corporation with 24/7 operations and my cell number gets out to employees who often need help right away. The only ones I ignore are the calls that match the area code and first three numbers of the cell.


Yeah, I almost immediately thought that I should have clarified I meant personal cell phones.  Work/on call numbers are an unfortunate exception, but I've never had an issue with non - business related calls while carrying one, nor have I seen anyone else have that issue.  Caveat:  government work, I'm sure there are others who have to deal with it.
 
2018-07-13 06:52:17 AM  

phamwaa: Lady J: Scanty Em: We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.

Unplug your phone. Or put it on silent when you go to sleep.

Hard to do when you're on-call 24/7.

I wish someone would spin up a whitelist app. Phone rings only when the number is in your contacts list.


You can do that. On iPhones, make them a "VIP." On Android, "star" them. They will overrride the Do Not Disturb or quiet time settings and ring through (you might have to adjust those settings to allow that)
 
2018-07-13 06:57:38 AM  

Man with the Red Eyes: Unobtanium: Man with the Red Eyes: I don't know why anyone ever answers a (cell) phone call from an unknown number.  Any entity wanting to contact me legitimate business will leave a voicemail; if it wasn't worth doing that for them, it certainly isn't worth my time to talk to them on the phone.

For my work cell phone, I answer almost every call because I work for a huge corporation with 24/7 operations and my cell number gets out to employees who often need help right away. The only ones I ignore are the calls that match the area code and first three numbers of the cell.

Yeah, I almost immediately thought that I should have clarified I meant personal cell phones.  Work/on call numbers are an unfortunate exception, but I've never had an issue with non - business related calls while carrying one, nor have I seen anyone else have that issue.  Caveat:  government work, I'm sure there are others who have to deal with it.


Even on my personal cell, I sometimes answer numbers that aren't in my contact list, but it's limited to times I am expecting a call. The robo/spam guys manage to sneak through sometimes because I am expecting the appliance guy/doctor's office/head hunter call and somehow Rachael knows and calls during those times. She's clever like that.

I even ignore the Red Cross, they start calling about day 50 to schedule my next blood donation. Look, I agree with the mission, but I'll come in when I can.
 
2018-07-13 06:58:38 AM  
My personal mobile number (cell phone, to our cousins across the pond) is also my work number, so I regularly get unsolicited calls.

Any number I don't recognise I answer: "[company name], [my name] speaking." Most of them hang-up at that point.
 
2018-07-13 07:01:24 AM  
The main thing that saves me is that 80% of the unwanted calls to my phone come from the same area code as my phone - a city I haven't lived in for nine years. I have no ongoing government, business, or personal interests there, so I never even question whether or not to ignore those calls.
 
2018-07-13 07:02:56 AM  

phamwaa: Lady J: Scanty Em: We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.

Unplug your phone. Or put it on silent when you go to sleep.

Hard to do when you're on-call 24/7.

I wish someone would spin up a whitelist app. Phone rings only when the number is in your contacts list.


I do that now with my android, no app needed.    Just turn on do not disturb mode for the hours you specify and then tell it to allow exceptions and then select the contact group you want to allow calls from.  I have a galaxy s7, not sure about other models or iPhones though.  It sucks being on call all the time but it's great not being woken up by anyone who thinks it's cool to call or text me late at night
 
2018-07-13 07:07:38 AM  

enry: DoctorCal: What we have heard ... is that it has chilled ways of trying to communicate with consumers, whether you're an insurance company trying to tell a customer your homeowner policy is expiring or you're CVS saying your prescription is ready," said Harold Kim, a senior vice president at the U.S. Chamber's Institute for Legal Reform.

Lying sack of crap.

CVS calls with their caller ID clearly labeled.  So when it comes up I know it's them rather than some random number that appears to be my area code and prefix that doesn't identify themselves other than saying they're from "card services".


Also, CVS has this:

Q. What if I no longer want to receive prescription reminders or text alerts?
A.
You can manage your preferences for automated pharmacy reminders and text alerts through a number of convenient options:
Call toll-free number
TextSTOP to number
ASKyour local pharmacy team.
Email them.
Log in to your CVS.com® account.


When robocallers actually farking do something like that, lemme know. Last robocaller I had I waited till a person picked up the line and told them to stop calling me.  She said "fark you" and hung up.

I'd mention my reaction in full, but this post would then get wiped.
 
2018-07-13 07:10:29 AM  
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2018-07-13 07:17:04 AM  
Trucaller app.  That is all.  Between that app and NEVER answering a call from an unknown number, I haven't spoken to a spam caller in years.
 
2018-07-13 07:19:37 AM  

Unemployedingreenland: Trucaller app.  That is all.  Between that app and NEVER answering a call from an unknown number, I haven't spoken to a spam caller in years.


I never get called. Somehow I've got away with it.
 
2018-07-13 07:28:38 AM  

casual disregard: I hate the unwanted calls, but I don't have to answer. If it were necessary they'd leave a voice mail.

On the other hand it was almost assuredly not necessary because if I wanted them to contact me at all I already provided an e-mail address.

Unsure of the reliance on copper and land lines in homes. I'd rather not.


This. If they are somebody I want to talk to, I'll pick up.
If they are someone whose number I do not recognize, but who have a legitimate reason to talk to me, they will leave a message.
If I want to talk to them, I will call them back.
There is no reason to ever pick up for an unrecognized number.
 
2018-07-13 07:38:25 AM  
One of my former employers got so spooked about the autodialer rules that he went all the way back to physical manual dialing.  Needless to say the business has taken a hit; I would not be surprised if he was behind the effort to undo some of the rules.
NSCSB: this didn't completely stop all farkups when it came to repetitive dials.  One particularly "bright" employee with a penchant for narcolepsy managed to dial a number seven times in two minutes.
 
2018-07-13 07:40:42 AM  

enry: DoctorCal: What we have heard ... is that it has chilled ways of trying to communicate with consumers, whether you're an insurance company trying to tell a customer your homeowner policy is expiring or you're CVS saying your prescription is ready," said Harold Kim, a senior vice president at the U.S. Chamber's Institute for Legal Reform.

Lying sack of crap.

CVS calls with their caller ID clearly labeled.  So when it comes up I know it's them rather than some random number that appears to be my area code and prefix that doesn't identify themselves other than saying they're from "card services".


Even cognizant the number doesn't help for me. I got a call one morning from my wife's number and when I picked up it was a cardholder services scam call.

That shiat'll wake you up in the morning. If my wife's phone calls me and I hear some strange woman's voice my first thought is it's a ransom demand.

My second thought is I shouldn't even bother having a phone.
 
2018-07-13 07:45:14 AM  
People won't pick up the phone. We should allow unsolicited robotexting. Also we should ban call screening and blocking aps.
 
2018-07-13 07:48:02 AM  

Scanty Em: We're on the Do Not Call list. We get an average of 15-20 junk calls per day. Many of them are part of some kind of thing that I still don't fully understand. Even if you answer, there is nobody there. They're calling, apparently, simply to see if you will answer the phone. Why? I'm not sure I want to know. Maybe if they find out that you answer the phone at 2 in the afternoonn on a weekday, they can assume you're retired, and probably gullible, and then the scare-the-old-folks scam calls begin.

Anyway, we're on the list, and we get constant junk calls anyway. Between that, and the neighbor's barking dog, it's impossible to take a nap around here.


In the old days, that usually meant someone was wardialing, looking for modems.
 
2018-07-13 07:50:55 AM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: New dystopian future idea:  Create an artificial general intelligence but make robo-calls its only outlet to the real world.
/Hello, this is Skynet, are your mortgage payments too high?


AI's that robocall, and are indistinguishable from humons, will happen in our lifetimes. Theyll also scrape all the info about you and adjust the settings to suit you, using the interactions as ML data that further optimizes interaction.

Except theyll make like 10k calls a day and constantly be MLing for conversion on a large scale and micromanaged tailored to suit.

Maybe it's a good thing I'm only living until 150.
 
2018-07-13 07:51:34 AM  

phamwaa: I wish someone would spin up a whitelist app. Phone rings only when the number is in your contacts list.


My elegant system (for my personal cell):

1)  The default ringtone on my phone is set to a custom audio clip I made: several seconds of absolute silence.
2)  People on my contacts list are individually assigned audible ringtones.

That's it.

Therefore: when I hear my phone ring, I am 100% confident that the call is from someone I know -- even before I look at the screen.

I am also not aware a robo-caller has even tried to call me, until after the fact.  I do sometimes perform lookups of numbers from my 'missed call' history ... and they are invariably associated with complaints that the number is used by solicitors.

Legitimate callers who are not on my contacts list will leave a message on my voice mail, more often than not (whereas robo-callers and cold-sales calls often don't).  Whenever I receive such messages, I immediately add that person to my contacts list, and assign them an audible ringtone ... so that the next time they call, I hear the ring and answer.

The beauty of this system is that it requires no 3rd-party apps.  The only requirement is a phone which has the ability to assign custom-made ringtones on a per-contact basis ... which is most models, these days.

It's perhaps not a good fit for those who must take calls from people with whom they don't often associate (random customers/clients, distant co-workers, etc).  But if you only have a small group of friends & family, and a few business/doctor/etc contacts  -- IMHO, it works extremely well for filtering unwanted calls almost completely out of your life.
 
2018-07-13 08:05:17 AM  
But businesses led by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce have warned that potentially onerous new federal rules on whom they can contact and how they contact them would prevent companies from providing useful information to consumers while opening the door to a raft of new lawsuits.

I'm trying to think of the useful information I have received from robocalls and robotexts.  How about never.
 
2018-07-13 08:13:42 AM  
Is it possible that the GOP exists solely to serve big business while telling their gullible followers that everything is fine?

Nah, it's Deep State lies.
 
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