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(Miami Herald)   The Biscayne Bay PD had an almost 100% "solve" rate for burglaries committed in their jurisdiction, but some nay-sayers make take issue with the chief's innovative "pick a random black guy and pin the crime on them" investigation method   ( miamiherald.com) divider line
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2018-07-12 06:58:30 PM  
In a report from that probe, four officers - a third of the small force - told an outside investigator they were under marching orders to file the bogus charges to improve the department's crime stats. Only De La Torre specifically mentioned targeting blacks, but former Biscayne Park village manager Heidi Shafran, who ordered the investigation after receiving a string of letters from disgruntled officers, said the message seemed clear for cops on the street.

But don't you dare call cops racist.
 
2018-07-12 07:40:40 PM  
"Biscayne Park village manager Heidi Shafran, who ordered the investigation after receiving a string of letters from disgruntled officers, said the message seemed clear for cops on the street."

So the racist cops were the ones who initiated the investigation the led to the indictment of their chief and two other cops. Damn racist cops.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local​/crime/article213647764.html?utm_sourc​e=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=​link&ICID=ref_fark#storylink=cpy
 
2018-07-12 07:41:33 PM  
How/Why did that crap get added to the bottom of my post?
 
2018-07-12 08:02:58 PM  

CruiserTwelve: How/Why did that crap get added to the bottom of my post?


Preview fail?
 
2018-07-12 09:11:45 PM  

CruiserTwelve: disgruntled


Which is code for "has morals"
 
2018-07-12 09:53:38 PM  
The Biscayne Bay PD had an almost 100% "solve" rate for burglaries committed in their jurisdiction, but some nay-sayers make take issue with the chief's innovative "pick a random black guy and pin the crime on them" investigation method

No, that is pretty derivative.
 
2018-07-12 10:00:23 PM  
Yeah but the Chief doesn't appear to be white so it can't be racism.
 
2018-07-12 10:00:29 PM  
One day we will not be judged on the color of skin, the religion we do or do not believe in, or the sexual preference we declare.  Let it all boil down to the best folks calling football by it's true name, soccer.
 
2018-07-12 10:01:58 PM  
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2018-07-12 10:12:08 PM  
Why does a village of 3,000 less than a square mile in size have its own police department? Disband it and let the county sheriff assume law enforcement duties in the village.
 
2018-07-12 10:12:14 PM  
It's easy kids.  Just repeat after me...

"institutional racism"
 
2018-07-12 10:13:16 PM  

CruiserTwelve: "Biscayne Park village manager Heidi Shafran, who ordered the investigation after receiving a string of letters from disgruntled officers, said the message seemed clear for cops on the street."

So the racist cops were the ones who initiated the investigation the led to the indictment of their chief and two other cops. Damn racist cops.


"When this village dissolves in five years for financial mismanagement, where the hell else am I going to find an LEO job with this turd on my resume?!"
 
2018-07-12 10:13:41 PM  
My headline would have replaced "nay-sayers" with "some people"

Because who cares what a horse can say?
 
2018-07-12 10:14:30 PM  

mrmopar5287: Why does a village of 3,000 less than a square mile in size have its own police department? Disband it and let the county sheriff assume law enforcement duties in the village.


$aftey.
 
zez
2018-07-12 10:15:14 PM  

mrmopar5287: Why does a village of 3,000 less than a square mile in size have its own police department? Disband it and let the county sheriff assume law enforcement duties in the village.


Apparently you dont live around st louis
 
2018-07-12 10:24:25 PM  

CruiserTwelve: How/Why did that crap get added to the bottom of my post?


Javascript on the news site that overrides the standard copy command with one that appends the blurb-url to the copied text.  Was all the rage 10 or so years ago.  All the more reason to run a javascript filter.

TLDR; Preview fail.

/Not seen this in a Fark post in a long long time
 
2018-07-12 10:26:34 PM  

Goimir: mrmopar5287: Why does a village of 3,000 less than a square mile in size have its own police department? Disband it and let the county sheriff assume law enforcement duties in the village.

$aftey.


Saftey?
 
2018-07-12 10:32:35 PM  

mrparks: My headline would have replaced "nay-sayers" with "some people"

Because who cares what a horse can say?


A horse, of course
 
2018-07-12 10:32:43 PM  
From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?
 
2018-07-12 10:35:31 PM  

zez: Apparently you dont live around st louis


I'm near enough (Central Illinois) that I'm aware. That's another area that needs state intervention to forcibly dissolve all the postage-stamp-sized municipalities that exist solely to extort revenue from people.
 
2018-07-12 10:37:44 PM  

This text is now purple: Goimir: mrmopar5287: Why does a village of 3,000 less than a square mile in size have its own police department? Disband it and let the county sheriff assume law enforcement duties in the village.

$aftey.

Saftey?


Their village probably makes up their budget on US 1 running right through the town.
 
2018-07-12 10:38:11 PM  

almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?


That's a pretty serious breach of ethics and professional responsibility on the part of the prosecutor. The decision to charge someone with falsifying an official document shouldn't ever rest with whether they have resigned from their job as a law enforcement officer.

Did they falsify the document? If yes, PROSECUTE THEM.
 
2018-07-12 10:38:40 PM  
We had something similar in Windermere, fl several years ago and I think the chief might have ended up doing time.
 
2018-07-12 10:43:42 PM  

mrmopar5287: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

That's a pretty serious breach of ethics and professional responsibility on the part of the prosecutor. The decision to charge someone with falsifying an official document shouldn't ever rest with whether they have resigned from their job as a law enforcement officer.

Did they falsify the document? If yes, PROSECUTE THEM.


But how can they just go on to another similar job?  I mean, fark, that shiat doesn't raise red flags when hiring people that can arrest other people, or shoot other people?

I don't farking get it.
 
2018-07-12 10:46:16 PM  

almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?


They don't want to risk blowing the case.  They know going through with it will anger the rest of the cops, that the union will get them good legal representation and that the cop in question is going to be familiar with the prosecution's playbook.  And even if you do win, you lose with the public because you just undermined their faith in the police and make the city look incompetent because they hired and allowed the cop to work for them.

It's far easier to just let the cop go and become somebody else's problem.
 
2018-07-12 10:47:01 PM  

almejita: mrmopar5287: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

That's a pretty serious breach of ethics and professional responsibility on the part of the prosecutor. The decision to charge someone with falsifying an official document shouldn't ever rest with whether they have resigned from their job as a law enforcement officer.

Did they falsify the document? If yes, PROSECUTE THEM.

But how can they just go on to another similar job?  I mean, fark, that shiat doesn't raise red flags when hiring people that can arrest other people, or shoot other people?

I don't farking get it.


Because if they call and you say, "don't hire him" they want to know why, and then awkward questions like, "why didn't you arrest him/press charges" come up, and then solved crimes get overturned and it all comes undone.

Easier to just kick him down the road and pretend it didn't happen.

/Not right
//Easier
///Threes
 
2018-07-12 10:49:33 PM  

almejita: mrmopar5287: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

That's a pretty serious breach of ethics and professional responsibility on the part of the prosecutor. The decision to charge someone with falsifying an official document shouldn't ever rest with whether they have resigned from their job as a law enforcement officer.

Did they falsify the document? If yes, PROSECUTE THEM.

But how can they just go on to another similar job?  I mean, fark, that shiat doesn't raise red flags when hiring people that can arrest other people, or shoot other people?

I don't farking get it.


Its a perk of being a poor vulnerable cop. You can get away with it without repercussions. Especially when those repercussions might involve substantial liabilty and costs on the part of your employer if they officially document your misbehavior. Theyd rather you leave quietly and are never heard from again.
 
2018-07-12 10:49:39 PM  

abhorrent1: Yeah but the Chief doesn't appear to be white so it can't be racism.


And some white guy got convicted of something once.  So it's all cool.
 
2018-07-12 10:49:42 PM  
The Biscayne Bay PD had an almost 100% "solve" rate for burglaries committed in their jurisdiction, but some nay-sayers make take issue with the chief's innovative "pick a random black guy and pin the crime on them" investigation method

Are you on the make take, subby?
 
2018-07-12 10:53:34 PM  

almejita: mrmopar5287: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

That's a pretty serious breach of ethics and professional responsibility on the part of the prosecutor. The decision to charge someone with falsifying an official document shouldn't ever rest with whether they have resigned from their job as a law enforcement officer.

Did they falsify the document? If yes, PROSECUTE THEM.

But how can they just go on to another similar job?  I mean, fark, that shiat doesn't raise red flags when hiring people that can arrest other people, or shoot other people?

I don't farking get it.


It's called due process.

Unless he's convicted of a crime, he's presumed innocent.
 
2018-07-12 10:55:49 PM  
bit the NFL players kneeling are the real criminals
 
2018-07-12 11:03:37 PM  
You at least make sure the guy you pin it on has a criminal record.  Lazy cops.
 
2018-07-12 11:04:05 PM  

ArkAngel: mrparks: My headline would have replaced "nay-sayers" with "some people"

Because who cares what a horse can say?

A horse, of course


Unless it's Mr. Ed
 
2018-07-12 11:04:50 PM  

gar1013: almejita: mrmopar5287: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

That's a pretty serious breach of ethics and professional responsibility on the part of the prosecutor. The decision to charge someone with falsifying an official document shouldn't ever rest with whether they have resigned from their job as a law enforcement officer.

Did they falsify the document? If yes, PROSECUTE THEM.

But how can they just go on to another similar job?  I mean, fark, that shiat doesn't raise red flags when hiring people that can arrest other people, or shoot other people?

I don't farking get it.

It's called due process.

Unless he's convicted of a crime, he's presumed innocent.


Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.  If you resign, shouldn't that be considered being convicted of a crime, at least when applying for an equivalent job?
 
2018-07-12 11:06:53 PM  

almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?


Welcome to America.
 
2018-07-12 11:09:15 PM  

almejita: gar1013: almejita: mrmopar5287: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

That's a pretty serious breach of ethics and professional responsibility on the part of the prosecutor. The decision to charge someone with falsifying an official document shouldn't ever rest with whether they have resigned from their job as a law enforcement officer.

Did they falsify the document? If yes, PROSECUTE THEM.

But how can they just go on to another similar job?  I mean, fark, that shiat doesn't raise red flags when hiring people that can arrest other people, or shoot other people?

I don't farking get it.

It's called due process.

Unless he's convicted of a crime, he's presumed innocent.

Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.  If you resign, shouldn't that be considered being convicted of a crime, at least when applying for an equivalent job?


No, but the prosecutors in question should be fired for not doing their job just because it would mean more headache for themselves.

Then the new prosecutors should probably look into what is legally available for them to do in this situation.
 
2018-07-12 11:32:33 PM  

King Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to America

King Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to America.


Edgy.

fortheloveof
fark all the prosecutors, why did the city manager even consider this guy for the job.  This was like 2014, they had the internet then, why was he considered for a job he had just been "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" from?
 
2018-07-12 11:34:55 PM  
and the job wasn't jizzmopper, I should have added.
 
2018-07-12 11:36:12 PM  

almejita: King Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to AmericaKing Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to America.

Edgy.

fortheloveof
fark all the prosecutors, why did the city manager even consider this guy for the job.  This was like 2014, they had the internet then, why was he considered for a job he had just been "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" from?


Off the top of my head?

1. Feature Not Bug for the department that hired him.
2. Information was not shared for the above given reasons.
3. Good ole boy system cover up.
4. You are assuming a level of competency in an HR department that is generally not in evidence.
 
2018-07-12 11:50:19 PM  
The Biscayne Bay Park PD

FTFY subby.

/Biscayne Bay's where the Cuban gentlemen sleep all day
 
2018-07-12 11:51:31 PM  

fortheloveof: almejita: King Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to AmericaKing Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to America.

Edgy.

fortheloveof
fark all the prosecutors, why did the city manager even consider this guy for the job.  This was like 2014, they had the internet then, why was he considered for a job he had just been "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" from?

Off the top of my head?

1. Feature Not Bug for the department that hired him.
2. Information was not shared for the above given reasons.
3. Good ole boy system cover up.
4. You are assuming a level of competency in an HR department that is generally not in evidence.


Don't know what that means.  Look I'm actually asking serious (in my head) questions here because I don't know anywhere else to ask them, and because I can sort of read fark and tell when they are farking off.  Are you saying that the fact that he was "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" wasn't listed anywhere, or that the new job didn't look because they didn't want to.  If the first thing, why not and if the second, can't that person (city manager) be held responsible for the actions they (city manager) take ( ie hiring this person for a job)?
 
2018-07-13 12:01:11 AM  

CruiserTwelve: "Biscayne Park village manager Heidi Shafran, who ordered the investigation after receiving a string of letters from disgruntled officers, said the message seemed clear for cops on the street."

So the racist cops were the ones who initiated the investigation the led to the indictment of their chief and two other cops. Damn racist cops.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local​/crime/article213647764.html?utm_sourc​e=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=​link&ICID=ref_fark#storylink=cpy


CruiserTwelve: How/Why did that crap get added to the bottom of my post?


I checked with the IT guys and they said you should stop transmitting such obviously disingenuous and peculiarly defensive posts.

/ Nobody here or in TFA called the whistleblowers "racist cops" except for you.
// You know something the rest of us don't?
/// TFA: Biscayne Park's little police department has been on the radar of state and federal prosecutors for years. With a population of just over 3,000 residents and less than one square mile in size, the little village has produced an outsized share of scandals, most surrounding its cops
 
2018-07-13 12:02:37 AM  
FTA: just to impress village leaders with a perfect crime-solving record.

A 100% crime-solving record is like an election in which a candidate wins 100% of the vote.
 
2018-07-13 12:02:57 AM  
 I was just following orders, counselor.
 
2018-07-13 12:05:17 AM  

CruiserTwelve: How/Why did that crap get added to the bottom of my post?


Website text is rarely plain text. When you copy text, the javascript for that page will add additional information to the copied text. That usually happens with newspaper websites.
 
2018-07-13 12:12:29 AM  
When this was discovered, I am sure that any convictions originating with the participants will be vacated, right???
 
2018-07-13 12:17:56 AM  

CruiserTwelve: "Biscayne Park village manager Heidi Shafran, who ordered the investigation after receiving a string of letters from disgruntled officers, said the message seemed clear for cops on the street."

So the racist cops were the ones who initiated the investigation the led to the indictment of their chief and two other cops. Damn racist cops.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local​/crime/article213647764.html?utm_sourc​e=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=​link&ICID=ref_fark#storylink=cpy


Really CruiserTwelve? You want to pin our views on police to this issue? That we should all be slathering cop knob because 4 cops have consciences?

8 out of 12 cops in this department were fully on board. 8 out of 12 cops are okay with racism. 8 out of 12 cops are okay with falsely imprisoning people just  to clean up crime stats.

I'll give you this. I don't think less of you morally after this comment, like I do with most of your comments. I think less of you intellectually. You seriously did not think this point through.
 
2018-07-13 12:18:55 AM  

almejita: fortheloveof: almejita: King Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to AmericaKing Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to America.

Edgy.

fortheloveof
fark all the prosecutors, why did the city manager even consider this guy for the job.  This was like 2014, they had the internet then, why was he considered for a job he had just been "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" from?

Off the top of my head?

1. Feature Not Bug for the department that hired him.
2. Information was not shared for the above given reasons.
3. Good ole boy system cover up.
4. You are assuming a level of competency in an HR department that is generally not in evidence.

Don't know what that means.  Look I'm actually asking serious (in my head) questions here because I don't know anywhere else to ask them, and because I can sort of read fark and tell when they are farking off.  Are you saying that the fact that he was "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" wasn't listed anywhere, or that the new job didn't look because they didn't want to.  If the first thing, why not and if the second, can't that person (city manager) be held responsible for the actions they (city manager) take ( ie hiring this person for a job)?


Feature not Bug is a term from software development.  Basically it boils down to, "they are actively looking for a guy that will do this thing we consider bad.". The new employer (IF they know about it) might want someone that will help them drive the "racially diverse" out of their white bread town.

As to the other points if he resigned then really all the HR person has to say when called is "he worked here, quit and now he doesn't." Any more and it could open them up to liability.  When he fills out his resume he can just put, "resigned to find better employment closer to home/with better atmosphere/because I was restless".

He doesn't have to tell his (potentially) new employer, "I was told to quit or they would fire me." And no prosecutor is going to want the fact they offered such an option to become public knowledge because it makes them look bad, and can disrupt their work and record on past cases.

Basically anyone involved with his past employment that didn't blow the whistle on the bad cop has incentive to not want to talk about it because it will make them look bad too.
 
2018-07-13 12:25:28 AM  

fortheloveof: almejita: fortheloveof: almejita: King Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to AmericaKing Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to America.

Edgy.

fortheloveof
fark all the prosecutors, why did the city manager even consider this guy for the job.  This was like 2014, they had the internet then, why was he considered for a job he had just been "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" from?

Off the top of my head?

1. Feature Not Bug for the department that hired him.
2. Information was not shared for the above given reasons.
3. Good ole boy system cover up.
4. You are assuming a level of competency in an HR department that is generally not in evidence.

Don't know what that means.  Look I'm actually asking serious (in my head) questions here because I don't know anywhere else to ask them, and because I can sort of read fark and tell when they are farking off.  Are you saying that the fact that he was "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" wasn't listed anywhere, or that the new job didn't look because they didn't want to.  If the first thing, why not and if the second, can't that pers ...


Man, I can't bold what I want to because Fark doesn't copy the whole text.  So here it goes...WHY?  Doesn't the new city manager care that the person might be a fark up?  And why doesn't the city manager have any responsibility for hiring...you know what...fark it.
 
2018-07-13 12:31:24 AM  

almejita: fortheloveof: almejita: King Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to AmericaKing Something: almejita: From the article

" Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest.
Atesiano left but landed with Biscayne Park two years later and rebuilt his reputation."

How can you be told to resign or face arrest , but end up in the same job capacity somewhere else.  I mean I could see if the job were jizzmopper, cuz jizzmoppers can't arrest people, but how can that happen when the person in question carries handcuffs and a gun, and can legally use them?

Welcome to America.

Edgy.

fortheloveof
fark all the prosecutors, why did the city manager even consider this guy for the job.  This was like 2014, they had the internet then, why was he considered for a job he had just been "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" from?

Off the top of my head?

1. Feature Not Bug for the department that hired him.
2. Information was not shared for the above given reasons.
3. Good ole boy system cover up.
4. You are assuming a level of competency in an HR department that is generally not in evidence.

Don't know what that means.  Look I'm actually asking serious (in my head) questions here because I don't know anywhere else to ask them, and because I can sort of read fark and tell when they are farking off.  Are you saying that the fact that he was "Prosecutors told him to resign or face arrest" wasn't listed anywhere, or that the new job didn't look because they didn't want to.  If the first thing, why not and if the second, can't that person (city m ...


The entire point of the "resign" option is to allow them to get another job somewhere else.  It's saying that if they go quietly and don't cause any further issues the department and prosecutors won't screw up any job offers they get in the future.

Departments go along with it because they don't want the black eye.  A dirty cop might lead to greater supervision or brass being let go.

Prosecutors don't want to go through with a case that, win or lose, makes their life worse.  Unless the department is irredeemably corrupt, you don't get promotions putting cops in jail and you pretty much kill your career when you fail trying to put them in jail.

Cities and counties put up with it because if they acknowledge a dirty cop that lawsuits will follow, not just in the case the cop was convicted for, but for every arrest that cop was involved in.

So the cop just goes to a new department.  If the question ever does pop up about why they didn't prosecute, the DA is able to simply say they just weren't 100% confident that they could secure a conviction or they didn't completely believe a witnesses testimony.  Everybody else will just refer it to the DA's office and say without a conviction, they have no legal right to besmirch somebody not convicted of a crime.

At the end of the day, nobody has any incentive to go after dirty cops.
 
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