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(AL.com)   DOJ reopens case of Emmett Till, black 14-year-old lynched in Money, MS, because after 63 years, guilty parties are pretty much dead, buried by now   ( al.com) divider line
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2018-07-12 12:57:27 PM  
Justice is still justice.
 
2018-07-12 01:14:56 PM  

BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.


Not when the defendant is unable to defend himself on account of being, you know, dead. Plan on digging him up and plopping him next to a public defender?
 
2018-07-12 01:33:54 PM  
IF all defendants are dead.
i don't care if someone is 98 years old, they need to face justice
 
2018-07-12 01:40:35 PM  

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.

Not when the defendant is unable to defend himself on account of being, you know, dead. Plan on digging him up and plopping him next to a public defender?


Until there is a proper and thorough investigation.  We don't know if defendants are dead or not.  Saying "gee, it's been so long that everybody must be dead" is a cop out.
 
2018-07-12 01:51:23 PM  
I figured it was so they could be charged and then pardoned to "energize the base".
 
2018-07-12 01:52:25 PM  

BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.


Or maybe it's a way to drain resources and attention away from present-day problems.
 
2018-07-12 01:52:55 PM  

BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.


Tell it to the folks of Rosewood, Florida.
 
2018-07-12 01:53:30 PM  
I think the girl that he supposedly whistled at is still alive.
 
2018-07-12 01:55:16 PM  

BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.


"Justice delayed is justice denied".
 
2018-07-12 01:57:36 PM  
Violence on many sides. Many sides.
 
2018-07-12 01:58:34 PM  
I can see it now:   "The Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions has concluded that the death of Emmett Till was a suicide.  #BlackOnBlackCrime"


The fact that I wrote this as a poorly conceived attempt at satire and it is not COMPLETELY out of the realm of possibility saddens me to no end.
 
2018-07-12 01:59:02 PM  
I applaud the action, but I question the motive. This administration is famous for it's hamfisted attempts at pandering to groups of people they want to be in their corner (willfully ignoring the things they do that run counter to those same groups' interests.) I bet you 20 dollars, that someone higher up said "How can we try to show we aren't racist?" and the answer was "Reopen one of the most famous examples of white-on-black injustice in America... We won't actually do anything, but it will look good"
 
2018-07-12 01:59:23 PM  
Fox news calls him a "thug" in 3...2...
 
2018-07-12 02:00:10 PM  
We can't be racist, we're investigating the Emmet Till case.
 
2018-07-12 02:00:29 PM  
Sometimes you really hope there is a hell.
 
2018-07-12 02:00:32 PM  

jaytkay: BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.

Or maybe it's a way to drain resources and attention away from present-day problems.


Maybe.   Or it could bring attention to the horrible history of our country.  A history the "heritage not hate" dickweeds wants to forget or deny.
 
2018-07-12 02:03:15 PM  
It's good they wait to prosecute white folks until after they're dead. It gives other white folks a chance to look like they are doing the right thing
 
2018-07-12 02:03:30 PM  
The man who killed Emmett openly confessed. In a magazine. He never served a day for the crime. He died of old age.

What's reopening this wound going to do? Remind everyone that Black lives Don't matter?
 
2018-07-12 02:04:49 PM  

DoughyGuy: I applaud the action, but I question the motive. This administration is famous for it's hamfisted attempts at pandering to groups of people they want to be in their corner (willfully ignoring the things they do that run counter to those same groups' interests.) I bet you 20 dollars, that someone higher up said "How can we try to show we aren't racist?" and the answer was "Reopen one of the most famous examples of white-on-black injustice in America... We won't actually do anything, but it will look good"


Yep.
 
2018-07-12 02:05:00 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: it could bring attention to the horrible history of our country


I don't think that's the intent of Jefferson Beauregard Wilkes Booth Bedford Forrest Sessions
 
2018-07-12 02:05:18 PM  

jaytkay: BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.

Or maybe it's a way to drain resources and attention away from present-day problems.


As we've said about gocernment agencies in the past, "they can do both at the same time."
 
2018-07-12 02:07:13 PM  
I suppose that their estates can be charged in a civil case. Other than that, there's no legal criminal punishment for dead people.
 
2018-07-12 02:07:36 PM  

dericwater: I think the girl that he supposedly whistled at is still alive.


And she lied to the police and lied under oath on court IIRC.  Might have a statute of limitations problem, though.
 
2018-07-12 02:07:45 PM  
As usual, lede buried.

Sen. Doug Jones, D-Alabama, introduced legislation this week that would make the government release information about unsolved civil rights killings. In an interview, Jones said the Till killing or any other case likely wouldn't be covered by this legislation if authorities were actively investigating.
 
2018-07-12 02:07:48 PM  
President Trump pardoned Jack Johnson. Why are you surprised that racial injustice is a concern of his? Oh, yeah. The DNC uses false claims of racism to try to inflame black voters. Nevermind.
 
2018-07-12 02:07:49 PM  

jaytkay: Dewey Fidalgo: it could bring attention to the horrible history of our country

I don't think that's the intent of Jefferson Beauregard Wilkes Booth Bedford Forrest Sessions


Oh no argument from me on that.   But take it and run with it.   Fark him.  Make it backfire.
 
2018-07-12 02:08:52 PM  

freddyV: IF all defendants are dead.
i don't care if someone is 98 years old, they need to face justice


Can you conduct a trial after 60 years and 50 of the case being cause celebre without it being farcical?

Is any of the testimony reliable after that long? Can any of the forensics be authenticated? How many witnesses are even still alive? It's fair to neither the defendants nor the family of Emmett Till, because the results of any such trial are such a sham.
 
2018-07-12 02:08:53 PM  

pueblonative: BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.

Not when the defendant is unable to defend himself on account of being, you know, dead. Plan on digging him up and plopping him next to a public defender?


You really want to die on that hill, PBN?
 
2018-07-12 02:09:42 PM  

Not_Todd: President Trump pardoned Jack Johnson. Why are you surprised that racial injustice is a concern of his? Oh, yeah. The DNC uses false claims of racism to try to inflame black voters. Nevermind.


That effort rates no vodak.
 
2018-07-12 02:10:11 PM  
This just in.... Upon further investigation, he's still dead.
 
2018-07-12 02:12:25 PM  

UNC_Samurai: jaytkay: BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.

Or maybe it's a way to drain resources and attention away from present-day problems.

As we've said about gocernment agencies in the past, "they can do both at the same time."


If they want to. Not today.
 
2018-07-12 02:13:03 PM  
Sources say the justices were initially excited when they confused the town name for the evidence log...
 
2018-07-12 02:13:32 PM  

dericwater: I think the girl that he supposedly whistled at is still alive.


she's recanted her story.

Private_Citizen: The man who killed Emmett openly confessed. In a magazine. He never served a day for the crime. He died of old age.


That was after they were acquitted.  I'm not sure they could have been tried again.
 
2018-07-12 02:13:43 PM  

Boojum2k: As usual, lede buried.

Sen. Doug Jones, D-Alabama, introduced legislation this week that would make the government release information about unsolved civil rights killings. In an interview, Jones said the Till killing or any other case likely wouldn't be covered by this legislation if authorities were actively investigating.


TFA mentions the investigation last March. A little before this week.
 
2018-07-12 02:13:51 PM  

BizarreMan: pueblonative: BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.

Not when the defendant is unable to defend himself on account of being, you know, dead. Plan on digging him up and plopping him next to a public defender?

Until there is a proper and thorough investigation.  We don't know if defendants are dead or not.  Saying "gee, it's been so long that everybody must be dead" is a cop out.


Is there anything to investigate? I thought the details of Till's murder were pretty well known and most of the people involved had admitted it. The killers admitted it after they were found not guilty and the key witness admitted to our perjuring herself.
 
2018-07-12 02:14:51 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Violence on many sides. Many sides.


It takes one to lynch and one to be black.  #Alllynchingsmatter.
 
2018-07-12 02:14:53 PM  

DoughyGuy: I applaud the action, but I question the motive. This administration is famous for it's hamfisted attempts at pandering to groups of people they want to be in their corner (willfully ignoring the things they do that run counter to those same groups' interests.) I bet you 20 dollars, that someone higher up said "How can we try to show we aren't racist?" and the answer was "Reopen one of the most famous examples of white-on-black injustice in America... We won't actually do anything, but it will look good"


Thank God the previous administration never did any such things.
 
2018-07-12 02:16:01 PM  

jaytkay: BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.

Or maybe it's a way to drain resources and attention away from present-day problems.


"Black guy murdered for not respecting his "betters"" isn't entirely a thing of the past...
 
2018-07-12 02:17:37 PM  

Not_Todd: President Trump pardoned Jack Johnson. Why are you surprised that racial injustice is a concern of his? Oh, yeah. The DNC uses false claims of racism to try to inflame black voters. Nevermind.


Emitt Till: Democrat operative

Great post, by the way.  Rare to see the "not on topic" and "totally full of shiat" covered so succinctly.
 
2018-07-12 02:18:48 PM  

dericwater: I think the girl that he supposedly whistled at is still alive.


Wait, are they reopening the case to satisfy the #metoo mob demanding justice against this type of toxic male sexual aggression that is alleged to occurred *that* long ago? This is starting to get a little ridiculous. Talk about kicking a dead horse, geez.
 
2018-07-12 02:19:55 PM  

henryhill: We can't be racist, we're investigating the Emmet Till case.


This. We'll see if there is a real investigation.

Sessions: "We decided to reopen the case when we realized nobody could account for the whereabouts of Hillary Clinton on that day."
 
2018-07-12 02:20:37 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: dericwater: I think the girl that he supposedly whistled at is still alive.

she's recanted her story.


Dave Chapelle's bit about her was poignant and amusing.
 
2018-07-12 02:21:53 PM  

born_yesterday: Rapmaster2000: Violence on many sides. Many sides.

It takes one to lynch and one to be black.  #Alllynchingsmatter.


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I don't think either one is racist or violent.
 
2018-07-12 02:22:01 PM  

henryhill: We can't be racist, we're investigating the Emmet Till case.


This.  Smells like window dressing.

Narrator:  the GOP is still riddled with overt racists
 
2018-07-12 02:23:11 PM  
Interesting. Someone at the DOJ wants to send a message to all the newly emboldened racists that are crawling out from whatever backwards, hate filled lair they occupy: don't mess with the citizens of our country; don't mess with the law that protects them, idiots.
 
2018-07-12 02:27:42 PM  

philodough: Interesting. Someone at the DOJ wants to send a message to all the newly emboldened racists that are crawling out from whatever backwards, hate filled lair they occupy: don't mess with the citizens of our country; don't mess with the law that protects them, idiots.


Knowing This DOJ, they want to remind brown people what happens when they forget their station.
 
2018-07-12 02:28:08 PM  

born_yesterday: Rapmaster2000: Violence on many sides. Many sides.

It takes one to lynch and one to be black.  #Alllynchingsmatter.


Hey now, lynching wasn't reserved for black people.

Other minorities and people that supported said minorities that didn't know their place were also popular choices. The Lynchers didn't reserve their hatred for blacks alone.
 
2018-07-12 02:28:52 PM  

BizarreMan: Justice is still justice.


Considering who's running the DoJ, they're more likely to posthumously award all involved Congressional Medals of Honor, though.
 
2018-07-12 02:29:06 PM  

BizarreMan: We don't know if defendants are dead or not.


You mean besides the ones who confessed, weren't re-tried, and died?

I think maybe I won't hold my breath...
 
2018-07-12 02:29:28 PM  
Better late than never, I guess.
 
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