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(The Hill)   Two House dems introduce an amendment to the bill funding the EPA that prohibits the agency from finalizing any pending regulatory actions until AFTER the inspector general finishes his probes of former Administrator Scott Pruitt, all 14 of them   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2018-07-12 03:12:21 PM  
And have the Democrats taken back the House yet?

Then it's all just posturing.
 
2018-07-12 03:56:15 PM  
FTA: The House's Rules Committee would have to declare the amendment from Connolly and Beyer to be "in order" before the House can vote on it.

So, basically this is just Democrat grandstanding instead of doing what they were elected for.  What a waste of taxpayer money...
 
2018-07-12 05:01:51 PM  

Lucky LaRue: FTA: The House's Rules Committee would have to declare the amendment from Connolly and Beyer to be "in order" before the House can vote on it.

So, basically this is just Democrat grandstanding instead of doing what they were elected for.  What a waste of taxpayer money...


Have you seen the grandstanding your side is doing on the Peter Strok hearing today? No, you should and then drink a tall glass of STFU.
 
2018-07-12 06:42:35 PM  

Lucky LaRue: FTA: The House's Rules Committee would have to declare the amendment from Connolly and Beyer to be "in order" before the House can vote on it.

So, basically this is just Democrat grandstanding instead of doing what they were elected for.  What a waste of taxpayer money...


All those Benghazi hearings were free!
 
2018-07-12 10:15:00 PM  
Stop interfering with his grift!
 
2018-07-12 10:16:41 PM  

nmrsnr: And have the Democrats taken back the House yet?

Then it's all just posturing.


So is 99% of all politics.

What's your point then, exactly?
 
2018-07-12 10:20:22 PM  

nmrsnr: And have the Democrats taken back the House yet?

Then it's all just posturing.


What, so then theres no point in even trying then?
 
2018-07-12 10:20:30 PM  

Lucky LaRue: FTA: The House's Rules Committee would have to declare the amendment from Connolly and Beyer to be "in order" before the House can vote on it.

So, basically this is just Democrat grandstanding instead of doing what they were elected for.  What a waste of taxpayer money...


It's the right thing to do.  The fact that is unlikely to pass illustrates exactly how corrupt the actual party in power is(GOP) and how little they actually care for the welfare of this land and it's people.

Sorry that fact is bothersome to you, but fark your feelings.
 
2018-07-12 10:24:00 PM  

AirGee: nmrsnr: And have the Democrats taken back the House yet?

Then it's all just posturing.

So is 99% of all politics.

What's your point then, exactly?


Sometimes these things are newsworthy, like when then get an amendment past committee on a must-past bill. This is not one of those times.
 
2018-07-12 10:27:26 PM  
Don't do this shiat Dems. If you're going to obstruct, don't cowardly do it with bullshait bills that will never pass. WALK THE fark OUT. Republicans showed they aren't fit to represent today. Take the big stand.
 
2018-07-12 10:36:45 PM  

nmrsnr: AirGee: nmrsnr: And have the Democrats taken back the House yet?

Then it's all just posturing.

So is 99% of all politics.

What's your point then, exactly?

Sometimes these things are newsworthy, like when then get an amendment past committee on a must-past bill. This is not one of those times.


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2018-07-12 10:39:08 PM  

Lucky LaRue: FTA: The House's Rules Committee would have to declare the amendment from Connolly and Beyer to be "in order" before the House can vote on it.

So, basically this is just Democrat grandstanding instead of doing what they were elected for.  What a waste of taxpayer money...


What's the problem? Is the House GOP not going to allow a practical amendment like that to come to a vote or something, or would they ever possibly not vote in favor? Geez I wonder why that would be?
 
2018-07-12 10:40:31 PM  
Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.
 
2018-07-12 10:40:40 PM  

italie: Don't do this shiat Dems. If you're going to obstruct, don't cowardly do it with bullshait bills that will never pass. WALK THE fark OUT. Republicans showed they aren't fit to represent today. Take the big stand.


And then Mitch will call an emergency vote on something they have cooked up and waiting, bar the Democrats re-entry to the vote chamber, and pass whatever they want. Legal or not, the republicans will treat it as law, the Supreme Court will rule in their favor, and it will be used as precedent to, essentially, remove Democrat votes.
 
2018-07-12 10:42:42 PM  

parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.


So blatant corruption and grift are your idea of the "right reforms"?
 
2018-07-12 10:42:52 PM  
They don't want to fund the EPA.
 
2018-07-12 10:45:21 PM  

parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.


I'm going to take comfort with that when the climate keeps getting warmer, and people start dying to new, exciting diseases caused by all the farking coal being burned.
 
2018-07-12 10:52:12 PM  

nmrsnr: And have the Democrats taken back the House yet?

Then it's all just posturing.


US Constitution, Article 1, Clause 6:

Members not owing allegiance to the Speaker shall not speak audibly or issue written communications in the House, the Committees, or the Hallways, unless a majority of the members present shall so allow and the Speaker shall concur.
 
2018-07-12 10:54:05 PM  

AirGee: parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.

So blatant corruption and grift are your idea of the "right reforms"?


Start Here and dig. Lots of action on regulatory reform at USEPA.
 
2018-07-12 11:04:26 PM  

parkthebus: AirGee: parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.

So blatant corruption and grift are your idea of the "right reforms"?

Start Here and dig. Lots of action on regulatory reform at USEPA.


Oh a press release from the office of the grifter himself, sorry but I am not impressed, and if the EPA needs any kind of reforms Scott Pruitt was NEVER going to the man to get it done "right", as you say.

The IG investigations and his resignation alone speak to that fact, so forgive me if I shed no tears over the fact you are going to miss Scott Pruitt.

How can you decry the existence of a massively inefficient bureaucracy along with the loss of of a corrupt administrator that would undoubtedly make that administration worse and not better with a straight face?
 
2018-07-12 11:06:26 PM  
They are still partying in the halls of the EPA because that cockgoblin got canned. They might as well make it a weekend!
 
2018-07-12 11:06:44 PM  

AirGee: parkthebus: AirGee: parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.

So blatant corruption and grift are your idea of the "right reforms"?

Start Here and dig. Lots of action on regulatory reform at USEPA.

Oh a press release from the office of the grifter himself, sorry but I am not impressed, and if the EPA needs any kind of reforms Scott Pruitt was NEVER going to the man to get it done "right", as you say.

The IG investigations and his resignation alone speak to that fact, so forgive me if I shed no tears over the fact you are going to miss Scott Pruitt.

How can you decry the existence of a massively inefficient bureaucracy along with the loss of of a corrupt administrator that would undoubtedly make that administration worse and not better with a straight face?


I don't blindly see it through a polarized political lens, and have direct experience with the agency. That's how.
 
2018-07-12 11:09:19 PM  
Has anyone seen a list of the 14 actions?
 
2018-07-12 11:09:24 PM  

parkthebus: AirGee: parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.

So blatant corruption and grift are your idea of the "right reforms"?

Start Here and dig. Lots of action on regulatory reform at USEPA.


Yes, the environment has had it too good for too long. Good thing Pruitt came by to remind us that business needs should come before inefficient agency demands, such as "stop polluting so goddamn much" and "seriously guys can you cut down on the destruction of nature just a tad?". Look at those awesome regulations, we got one that assigns more people to look over regulations to see which ones we don't need (surely those would be chosen through redundancy and not willful apathy toward environmental needs), AND one that assigns the task of removing two regulations for every new one added. So efficient, much wow. Almost makes you forget that literally anyone else could have done this same stupid crap in Trump's master plan of selling our country to business overlords, and they could have done it without being a scandalous douchebag too.
 
2018-07-12 11:14:11 PM  

parkthebus: AirGee: parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.

So blatant corruption and grift are your idea of the "right reforms"?

Start Here and dig. Lots of action on regulatory reform at USEPA.


My, how selective your view of reality is.
 
2018-07-12 11:27:36 PM  
I'm sure this will just turn into another farce...
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2018-07-12 11:30:19 PM  

nmrsnr: And have the Democrats taken back the House yet?

Then it's all just posturing.


When you're in a hopeless minority all you can do is make your opponent defend their policies.

Or use your idea and do nothing but sulk.
 
2018-07-12 11:43:43 PM  
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2018-07-13 12:11:59 AM  

parkthebus: AirGee: parkthebus: AirGee: parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.

So blatant corruption and grift are your idea of the "right reforms"?

Start Here and dig. Lots of action on regulatory reform at USEPA.

Oh a press release from the office of the grifter himself, sorry but I am not impressed, and if the EPA needs any kind of reforms Scott Pruitt was NEVER going to the man to get it done "right", as you say.

The IG investigations and his resignation alone speak to that fact, so forgive me if I shed no tears over the fact you are going to miss Scott Pruitt.

How can you decry the existence of a massively inefficient bureaucracy along with the loss of of a corrupt administrator that would undoubtedly make that administration worse and not better with a straight face?

I don't blindly see it through a polarized political lens, and have direct experience with the agency. That's how.


You're wasting your time if you think your main audience here gives two shiats about reforming ANY govt agency or, for that matter reducing costs or improving efficiency.
 
2018-07-13 12:12:22 AM  

etoof: italie: Don't do this shiat Dems. If you're going to obstruct, don't cowardly do it with bullshait bills that will never pass. WALK THE fark OUT. Republicans showed they aren't fit to represent today. Take the big stand.

And then Mitch will call an emergency vote on something they have cooked up and waiting, bar the Democrats re-entry to the vote chamber, and pass whatever they want. Legal or not, the republicans will treat it as law, the Supreme Court will rule in their favor, and it will be used as precedent to, essentially, remove Democrat votes.


I don't disagree. He's change quorum rules within a week, but it's the best stand they have.
 
2018-07-13 12:49:52 AM  

parkthebus: Start Here and dig. Lots of action on regulatory reform at USEPA.


You're the one claiming the experience.  Instead of *just* handing over a research project, maybe a pointer to at least ONE thing that's an unmitigated good?  What's made news on regulatory reform has routinely been terrible.

Animatronik: You're wasting your time if you think your main audience here gives two shiats about reforming ANY govt agency or, for that matter reducing costs or improving efficiency.


You know what might change minds here?  Evidence that Pruitt has, on balance, done more good than harm.  The only direct answer I've seen anywhere defending him was "cutting through extraneous regulations" and "improving efficiency" with no examples or references, while what I've seen on the news has universally been "Oh hey, waste products can go straight into streams now?" and similar.

In absence of citations on what good he's done, I'm gonna have to go with Scott's own public statements from before he was EPA head where he claimed we'd all be better off without the agency, has called himself a "leading advocate against the EPA's activist agenda," and consider how he'd sued the agency more than a dozen times.

Don't like that this is the picture we've got of the man?  Give people something more to work with.
 
2018-07-13 01:03:09 AM  

AirGee: parkthebus: Pruitt was an ethical disaster, but he was bringing the right reforms to USEPA. I, like you probably, once thought it was a great agency making our air and water clean  But once I started working with it I found it to be a massive inefficient bureaucracy who couldn't make a decision or do anything well. It needs house cleaning and massive reform and Pruitt was doing just that.

So blatant corruption and grift are your idea of the "right reforms"?


Well he is a Republican so yeah, probably.
 
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