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2018-07-12 06:46:01 AM  
Every single one of these guys is doped to the gills. Some are just better at hiding it than others.
 
2018-07-12 07:08:26 AM  
Don't forget the ones that hide motors in the bike frames to assist them in pedaling.

http://www.businessinsider.com/vivax-​m​otor-bike-doping-scandal-2016-2

Kids are callin' it "mechanical doping".
 
2018-07-12 07:53:34 AM  
The boos were quite prominent in the NBC coverage of the time trial, at multiple points in the stage.
 
2018-07-12 09:43:05 AM  
Now that England won't play France in the WC, they will stop booing him, right?
 
2018-07-12 10:18:53 AM  

Dick Gozinya: Kids are callin' it "mechanical doping".


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2018-07-12 11:02:04 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Every single one of these guys is doped to the gills. Some are just better at hiding it than others.


Look, mate. Just because an entire generation of US cyclists doped to the gills, doesn't mean everyone else does.

WADA exonerated Froome, not even requiring the physio test - not least because he had been tested every day of the Vuelta. And Team Sky have released unprecedented amounts of data (worth a read, just to see the attention to detail they achieve, and which makes his achievement on the Vuelta even more astonishing).
 
2018-07-12 01:06:17 PM  

4471 'cause that's my PIN: Farking Clown Shoes: Every single one of these guys is doped to the gills. Some are just better at hiding it than others.

Look, mate. Just because an entire generation of US cyclists doped to the gills, doesn't mean everyone else does.

WADA exonerated Froome, not even requiring the physio test - not least because he had been tested every day of the Vuelta. And Team Sky have released unprecedented amounts of data (worth a read, just to see the attention to detail they achieve, and which makes his achievement on the Vuelta even more astonishing).


Clearly its just a problem with US cyclists.

Let's take a look at last year (2017):

On February 10, 2017, the UCI announced that Rahim Emami (Pishgaman Cycling Team)had tested positive for an Anabolic Androgenic Steroid during the 2016 Jelajah Malaysia and was provisionally suspended. As teammate Naser Rezavi also tested positive in the Jelajah Malaysia in December 2015, the UCI considers this a second Adverse Analytical Finding in a 12-month period with the team potentially facing a ban of between 15 and 45 days.[672] Emami was handed a seven-year and six-month ban, expiring on May 24, 2024, when Emami will be 42, therefore the ban will effectively end his professional career.[673]
On 2 February, Lionel Flores tested positive for Phentermine, Mephentermine and anabolic androgenic steroids and was banned for 4 years.[674]
On 4 February, Josué Huidobro Grau (GSport-Valencia Sports-Wolfbike) tested positive for anabolic androgenic steroids and was banned for 4 years.[674]
On 26 February, Ebrahim Hajizadehasl tested positive for anabolic androgenic steroids at the 2017 Asian Cycling Championships and was banned for 4 years.[674]
On 2 March, Eugen Wacker (Massi-Kuwait Cycling Project) tested positive for Meldonium and was banned for 15 months.[674]
On 6 April, Jose Gonzales tested positive for Clenbuterol at the 2017 Junior Panamerican Cycling Championships and was banned for 1 year.[674]
On 7 April, Ali Hassan Mansoor (VIB Bikes) tested positive for Clenbuterol at the 2017 Tour du Maroc, and was banned for 4 years.[674]
On 7 April, Kirill Pozdnyakov (Synergy Baku Cycling Project) tested positive for Methylphenidate at the 2017 Tour du Maroc, and was banned for 8 months.[674]
On 8 April, Matias Andres Perez tested positive for Testosterone at the Vuelta del Uruguay, and was subsequently banned for 18 months.[674]
On 12 April, Sixto Núñez tested positive for GW 1516 at the 2017 Rutas de America and was banned for 3 years.[674]
On 13 April, Roberto Salvo tested positive for anabolic androgenic steroids at the 2017 Vuelta del Uruguay, and was banned for 4 years.[674]
On 15 April, Jonathan Barboza tested positive for Ephedrine and anabolic androgenic steroids at the 2017 Vuelta del Uruguay, and was banned for 4 years.[674]
On 25 April Nicola Ruffoni (Bardiani-CSF) tested positive for GHRPs and was banned for 4 years.[675][674]
On 26 April, Stefano Pirazzi (Bardiani-CSF) tested positive for GHRPs and was banned for 4 years.[674]
On 14 May, Jérôme Pulidori tested positive for EPO.[675]
On 26 and 28 May, Matija Kvasina (Felbermayr-Simplon Wels)tested positive for Molidustat.[675]
On 3 June, Oldemar Vega Murillo tested positive for Clenbuterol at the Copa America and UCI Junior Series XCO, and was banned for 1 year.[674]
On 18 June André Cardoso (Trek-Segafredo) tested positive for EPO.[675]
On 26 June Michael Bresciani (Bardiani-CSF) tested positive for Furosemide and was banned for 2 months.[674]
On 29 July, Antonio Santoro (Monkey Town Continental Team) tested positive for Acetazolamide at the 2017 Tour of Qinghai Lake and was banned for 6 months.[674]
On 1 August Juan Murillo (Gwada Bikers 118 team) tested positive for EPO-CERA during the Tour Cycliste International de la Guadeloupe and was later banned for four years and fined €10000.[676]
On 9 August Samuel Sanchez (BMC Racing Team) tested positive for GHRPs.[675]
On 11 August, Juan Carlos tested positive for anabolic androgenic steroids.[675]
On 8 October, Clayton Shepard tested positive for anabolic androgenic steroids.[675]
On 21 November, Róbinson López (Loteria de Boyaca), current U23 Colombian champion, tested positive at the 2017 Vuelta a Colombia for the third generation blood booster - CERA.[677]
On 28 November, Luis Alberto Largo (Sogamoso-Argos-Cooservicios-Idrs) tested positive for CERA at the 2017 Vuelta a Colombia.[678]
On 28 November, Edward Díaz (EPM) tested positive for CERA at the 2017 Vuelta a Colombia.[678]
On 28 November, Jonathan Felipe Paredes (Ebsa-Indeportes Boyaca) tested positive for CERA at the 2017 Vuelta a Colombia.[678]
On 28 November, Fabio Nelson Montenegro (Ebsa-Indeportes Boyaca) tested positive for CERA at the 2017 Vuelta a Colombia.[678]
On 28 November, Luis Camargo Flechas (Supergiros) tested positive for CERA at the 2017 Vuelta a Colombia.[678]
On 28 November, Oscar Soliz (Movistar Amateur Team) tested positive for CERA at the 2017 Vuelta a Colombia.[678]
On 28 November, Juan Carlos Cadena (Depormundo-Bosa-Ramguiflex) tested positive for 19-noretiocholanolone and 19-norandrosterone in a control test taken on August 11.[678]
On 21 December, Pierpaolo De Negri (Nippo-Vini Fantini) tested positive for anabolic androgenic steroids.[679]


I see 1 US cyclist on that list (Clayton Shepard) out of 33 confirmed cases. But nobody else does it...
 
2018-07-12 01:13:16 PM  
I remember that time when we were so jiuced up during the TDF we all thought we sdaw Froome punch a chicken's lights out.

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2018-07-12 01:22:12 PM  

4471 'cause that's my PIN: Look, mate. Just because an entire generation of US cyclists doped to the gills,


Umm... an entire generation of cyclists were doped to the gills, not just "US cyclists". Every podium finisher at the TdF during Armstrong's seven wins has been linked to doping (except one from the first year IIRC). In the '90s the situation was, if anything, even worse. Armstrong got taken down because the USADA actually went after him. Most of the riders from his era and from the '90s never faced such a thorough, determined investigation.

There's little doubt that Pantani and Indurain, among others, doped like mad, yet they're still national heroes in their home countries. There was no test for EPO in their heyday and it's such a huge performance enhancer that the idea they could have won so much without it, when we know that much of the peloton was taking it, is pure fantasy.

WADA exonerated Froome, not even requiring the physio test - not least because he had been tested every day of the Vuelta. And Team Sky have released unprecedented amounts of data (worth a read, just to see the attention to detail they achieve, and which makes his achievement on the Vuelta even more astonishing).

Yeah, however prevalent one thinks doping is in the peloton these days, the athletes are entitled to a defense. WADA certainly hasn't been taking it easy on dopers in recent years, and they decided they couldn't prove guilt in this case.

Some asshole fans cheered the moment they heard that Froome crashed on stage 1. They seem nice.
 
2018-07-12 01:30:13 PM  
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Haters gonna hate but the peloton is cleaner than the MLB or NFL.
 
2018-07-12 01:58:47 PM  

Jackpot777: I remember that time when we were so jiuced up during the TDF we all thought we sdaw Froome punch a chicken's lights out.

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Given how often those idiots get in the way of the riders, I'd like to see more of that.
 
2018-07-12 02:09:17 PM  

patrick767: Jackpot777: I remember that time when we were so jiuced up during the TDF we all thought we sdaw Froome punch a chicken's lights out.

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Given how often those idiots get in the way of the riders, I'd like to see more of that.


Right you are!

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2018-07-12 03:33:00 PM  

Dick Gozinya: Clearly its just a problem with US cyclists.

Let's take a look at last year (2017):


Well the Armstrong generation isn't cycling in 2017, is it? What I do note is apparently no British riders, and while I'm not totally up on it, only two riders from World Tour teams?

My point is that peddling the dopey line (pun intended) that they all do it really isn't very smart. It's claimed pro cycling is perhaps the cleanest sport where doping is an issue, certainly the most heavily tested. If you read the link I gave you will see the incredible levels Team Sky have gone to extract the ultimate performance - all legal and ethical - and the level of disclosure is unprecedented. Then, given that pretty much every team on the TdF has a a former Sky rider as team leader or super-domestique, there would be more clues.
 
2018-07-12 03:49:18 PM  

4471 'cause that's my PIN: Dick Gozinya: Clearly its just a problem with US cyclists.

Let's take a look at last year (2017):

Well the Armstrong generation isn't cycling in 2017, is it? What I do note is apparently no British riders, and while I'm not totally up on it, only two riders from World Tour teams?

My point is that peddling the dopey line (pun intended) that they all do it really isn't very smart. It's claimed pro cycling is perhaps the cleanest sport where doping is an issue, certainly the most heavily tested. If you read the link I gave you will see the incredible levels Team Sky have gone to extract the ultimate performance - all legal and ethical - and the level of disclosure is unprecedented. Then, given that pretty much every team on the TdF has a a former Sky rider as team leader or super-domestique, there would be more clues.


True, 2017 isnt the "Armstrong generation". I used it as an example to show the pattern that proves you are full of shiat. if you read the link I gave you, you'll see that the list goes back to the 1890s, and even through the "Armstrong years" there are a hell of a lot of non-US riders on there. So your blanket assertion that this is a "US cyclist" problem, and not "everyone else" is patently false and complete bullshiat. There are a hell of a lot more European riders being busted for doping every year than US cyclists. So, you might want to check your facts first and STFU the next time you think about trying to claim the moral high ground.
 
2018-07-12 04:14:48 PM  

Jackpot777: I remember that time when we were so jiuced up during the TDF we all thought we sdaw Froome punch a chicken's lights out.

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That chicken was a Nazi, so it's okay.
 
2018-07-12 04:16:12 PM  
CRIPPLE FIGHT!!
 
2018-07-12 04:22:34 PM  
Here's a simple solution (see also: all other sports): Quit caring about PED's. Accept that they have been a part of sports since at the minimum baseball players would pop speed (aka greenies) in the 50's and 60's to get through the long seasons. Quit with the whole "But....but....the amateur spirit of sports where people do it simply for the love of it!!!" lie, it's boring and tired, give it a farking rest.

Jackpot777: Right you are!

Love that .gif. I'd prefer that the riders had very sharp spears that they could use on people who got on the course just so they can have .5 seconds of attention, but alas.

Haven't watched the coverage of today's leg, go Froome.
 
2018-07-12 04:29:59 PM  
Getting back to today's TdF stage, Dumoulin's mechanical was very good for Froome and the other GC contenders. After yesterday he was the best placed contender with 40 seconds on Porte, 44 on Froome, and more on the others, and he's not a rider anyone wants to trail in the standings. He's an excellent time trialist and has gotten very strong in the mountains too. Giro winner in 2017, runner-up this year... In the 2016 TdF he won a mountain stage and beat Froome by over a minute in an ITT.
 
2018-07-13 04:28:54 AM  

Dick Gozinya: True, 2017 isnt the "Armstrong generation". I used it as an example to show the pattern that proves you are full of shiat. if you read the link I gave you, you'll see that the list goes back to the 1890s, and even through the "Armstrong years" there are a hell of a lot of non-US riders on there. So your blanket assertion that this is a "US cyclist" problem, and not "everyone else" is patently false and complete bullshiat. There are a hell of a lot more European riders being busted for doping every year than US cyclists. So, you might want to check your facts first and STFU the next time you think about trying to claim the moral high ground.


So you've brilliantly disproved a claim I didn't make. Well done! Although might I suggest next time you try reading comprehension before replying.

Anyway to someone who did pass Eng. Comp. Yes, it is quite bizarre how all the serious GC contenders have suffered almost identical losses (barring Quintana, and unfortunately Thomas, who has to be considered a deputy unless Froome fails). Having seen what Froome and Sky did on the Giro S19 (and I think Froome is fit enough to do it again), I reckon Dumoulin will be on the back foot, although remember that on that day he got negligible support from the other riders in the group. Counterpoint is: would Froome risk an all-in attack like that with Richie Porte holding on to his wheel?

I've not seen any of Porte's wins, but if anyone knows how to exploit Froome, he's the man. Sky/Froome can't afford a single bad day in the mountains (was it last year when Landa dragged him back to the lead group? - Porte wouldn't let that happen). I'm rather concerned there will be crowd trouble given how certain loudmouths don't appear to have rowed back and apologised. If that happens, it's game on with Yates, three Movistar riders also very much in the mix, though I don't rate the cheat Nibali.
 
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