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(The Drive)   Optional upgrades for Houthi pickup trucks: Extended cab, skid plate, light bar, 20mm Vulcan cannon, winch   ( thedrive.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Weapon, Vulcan Air Defense, Anti-aircraft warfare, Iranian-backed Houthi rebels, improvised weapon mounts, heavy machine guns, state security forces, Toyota Hilux  
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2018-07-11 04:48:54 PM  
But have they upgraded to Jarman Kell, yet?
 
2018-07-11 04:58:32 PM  
Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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2018-07-11 05:05:43 PM  
Pew pew pew.
 
2018-07-11 05:07:50 PM  
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2018-07-11 05:25:47 PM  
Can I get the Vulcan cannon for traffic up here?  I knew my car was missing something.

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2018-07-11 05:26:13 PM  

beezeltown: But have they upgraded to Jarman Kell, yet?


How effective is he going to be really?  The attackers don't seem to be using heavy armour.

Maybe just some quad cannons to clear the airspace.
 
2018-07-11 05:27:27 PM  

mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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Christ. Where's the Make America Great Again bumper sticker on that pile of shiat
 
2018-07-11 05:30:19 PM  

mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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I can just see the conversation

Officer: Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?

Guy in Truck with Minigun:  No officer, I sure don't

Officer:  Sir, why do you need a minigun on a state highway?

Guy iTwMg:  Well it's for coyotes.  Also, I don't recognize your authority to pull me over and ask me about my minigun.
 
2018-07-11 05:30:29 PM  
Those are essential for dealing with LA / Chicago / Atlanta / Houston / DC/MD Beltway traffic.
 
2018-07-11 05:32:24 PM  
Given the type of warfare going on, that is a very effective improvised weapon against ground forces.  It is highly vulnerable to drones and aircraft as they can effectively target the mount beyond its range of engagement. The enemy always gets a vote and they can be creative in how they adapt to the battlefield.
 
2018-07-11 05:32:37 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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Christ. Where's the Make America Great Again bumper sticker on that pile of shiat


they don't even have false testicles hanging from the tow hitch, possibly a dirty Lib impersonating a patriotic American.
 
2018-07-11 05:33:35 PM  
Houthi pickups?

I'd prefer the coupe.  It's pretty rock and roll.
 
2018-07-11 05:35:46 PM  
Winch?
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2018-07-11 05:36:36 PM  
Lemme guess...mounted on a Toyota Hilux...

<reads article>

a-yup...
 
2018-07-11 05:37:16 PM  
There was a time US forces were happy with a machine gun mounted on a light, go everywhere vehicle.
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Well, can't really blame them for wanting something that will stop a bullet on occasion.
 
2018-07-11 05:45:15 PM  
In a way, nice to see the Vulcan still in action.  I was a 27F Vulcan Repairer during my time in the Army and we left a lot of the Vulcans behind in Saudi after Desert Shield/Storm.
 
2018-07-11 05:48:48 PM  

mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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Not truly "Merica!" unless there's an A10 cannon mounted on it.

/BBBBBBBRRRRRPPPPPTTTTT
 
TWX
2018-07-11 05:50:27 PM  

sidmind: Winch?
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Wench?
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2018-07-11 05:54:34 PM  

mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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Alahu akbar

, indeed!
 
2018-07-11 05:55:44 PM  

sidmind: Winch?
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Looks larger than 20x102mm
 
2018-07-11 06:01:30 PM  
Originally, MOS 16R and I was trained as a Vulcan/Chaparral crewman at Fort Bliss in 1970 and fired the 20mm.  It had two rates of fire, 1,000 rpm and 3,000 rpm, so they're going to need an additional and bigger truck just to haul around ammo for the gun.  After AIT, I was assigned to a Chaparral unit, C Battery, 5/67 ADA (MOS changed to 16P) and stayed at Fort Bliss until my 2 years were over. Not bad considering I thought I was going to Nam when I was drafted.  Actually, it was even better.  I got a 6 month drop and only spent 18 months and 3 days in the Army (they kept you for at least 18 months and 1 day so you were eligible for GI Bill benefits).
 
2018-07-11 06:12:06 PM  

OkieDookie: mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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I can just see the conversation

Officer: Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?

Guy in Truck with Minigun:  No officer, I sure don't

Officer:  Sir, why do you need a minigun on a state highway?

Guy iTwMg:  Well it's for coyotes.  Also, I don't recognize your authority to pull me over and ask me about my minigun.


Reminds me of this XKCD What-If?
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[actually, what I'm confused about is 'how'.]
 
2018-07-11 06:12:52 PM  

sidmind: Winch?
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I like you.
 
TWX
2018-07-11 06:17:01 PM  

SirSigsegV: OkieDookie: mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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I can just see the conversation

Officer: Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?

Guy in Truck with Minigun:  No officer, I sure don't

Officer:  Sir, why do you need a minigun on a state highway?

Guy iTwMg:  Well it's for coyotes.  Also, I don't recognize your authority to pull me over and ask me about my minigun.

Reminds me of this XKCD What-If?
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[actually, what I'm confused about is 'how'.]


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2018-07-11 06:22:44 PM  
TFA: "The original source of the weapons is also unclear"

Calehedron: I was a 27F Vulcan Repairer during my time in the Army and we left a lot of the Vulcans behind in Saudi after Desert Shield/Storm.


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2018-07-11 06:37:40 PM  
The Chadian Army beat the crap out of Libya in then (no fooling) Toyota War, by mounting heavy Machine Guns in the beds of Toyota Pickups and using them like Light cavalry.  (cf. Dunnigan, "How to Make War")
 
2018-07-11 06:46:26 PM  
Houthi pickup truck? Man, Houthi women are strange.
 
2018-07-11 06:57:57 PM  
They have all kinds of weapons on pickup trucks, even anti-tank guns. Unrelated pic from the twitter feed:

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2018-07-11 07:09:11 PM  
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If this kid wasnt deaf before he is now
 
2018-07-11 07:12:15 PM  

mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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That is the 7.62mm Mini-Gun, not the M167 20mm Gatling system

.

UsikFark:
They have all kinds of weapons on pickup trucks, even anti-tank guns. Unrelated pic from the twitter feed:

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T-55/T-62 after a turret blow-off due to fuel/ammo detonation, probably (thinking more T-55, due to the main gun).
 
2018-07-11 07:13:41 PM  

mikaloyd: [i.imgur.com image 850x478]If this kid wasnt deaf before he is now


Not likely he cares, since he probably got to shred somebody else to death before they could shred him to death.
 
2018-07-11 07:15:48 PM  
Time to send in the fkn armor, to finish 'em off ! <oh wait>
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- Fkn seriously (‽) supplying all sides of the conflict why am I not surprised.
- Used to be called profiteers, used to carry steep penalties.
 
2018-07-11 07:18:38 PM  

whr21: Time to send in the fkn armor, to finish 'em off ! <oh wait>
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- Fkn seriously (‽) supplying all sides of the conflict why am I not surprised.
- Used to be called profiteers, used to carry steep penalties.


Does it truly surprise you that someone would sell weapons to both sides of a conflict if the nation they were citizens of were not an actual party de jure to?
 
2018-07-11 07:24:55 PM  

TypoFlyspray: The Chadian Army beat the crap out of Libya in then (no fooling) Toyota War, by mounting heavy Machine Guns in the beds of Toyota Pickups and using them like Light cavalry.  (cf. Dunnigan, "How to Make War")


To be fair though, it was a bit more than that.  France provided air power neutralizing the Libyan air force and also provided the trucks some of which were mounted with Milan missiles in addition to heavy machine gun mounted units.  Still an impressive achievement defeating a more well equipped force with superior tactics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_​W​ar
 
2018-07-11 07:26:13 PM  
Rock and Roll, Houthi Coup?
 
2018-07-11 07:28:17 PM  
The clips of Pakistani forces with mean caliber weapons on pickup trucks were ridiculous.
I honestly seem to recall one with anti-aircraft or something so absurd, you'd think the kick-back would topple the small pickup.
 
2018-07-11 07:37:12 PM  
That would make my commute much more productive.
 
2018-07-11 07:38:44 PM  

sidmind: Winch?
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Gross.
 
2018-07-11 08:24:43 PM  

OkieDookie: mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

[img.fark.net image 850x763]

I can just see the conversation

Officer: Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?

Guy in Truck with Minigun:  No officer, I sure don't

Officer:  Sir, why do you need a minigun on a state highway?

Guy iTwMg:  Well it's for coyotes.  Also, I don't recognize your authority to pull me over and ask me about my minigun.


I mean, it says he has his ffl right on the back window. Stupid lib cops.
 
2018-07-11 08:28:22 PM  

TypoFlyspray: The Chadian Army beat the crap out of Libya in then (no fooling) Toyota War, by mounting heavy Machine Guns in the beds of Toyota Pickups and using them like Light cavalry.  (cf. Dunnigan, "How to Make War")


I read that as Canadian and was really, really confused.
 
2018-07-11 08:34:46 PM  

Resident Muslim: The clips of Pakistani forces with mean caliber weapons on pickup trucks were ridiculous.
I honestly seem to recall one with anti-aircraft or something so absurd, you'd think the kick-back would topple the small pickup.


Recoiless Rifle fail
Youtube rtAqD9_oOEY
 
2018-07-11 08:47:43 PM  

zimbomba67: Originally, MOS 16R and I was trained as a Vulcan/Chaparral crewman at Fort Bliss in 1970 and fired the 20mm.  It had two rates of fire, 1,000 rpm and 3,000 rpm, so they're going to need an additional and bigger truck just to haul around ammo for the gun.  After AIT, I was assigned to a Chaparral unit, C Battery, 5/67 ADA (MOS changed to 16P) and stayed at Fort Bliss until my 2 years were over. Not bad considering I thought I was going to Nam when I was drafted.  Actually, it was even better.  I got a 6 month drop and only spent 18 months and 3 days in the Army (they kept you for at least 18 months and 1 day so you were eligible for GI Bill benefits).


They also need a lot of maintenance and it's a bit different than just cleaning a machine gun. You need someone who has more training and equipment than they are likely to have.
 
2018-07-11 08:58:32 PM  

darch: mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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Not truly "Merica!" unless there's an A10 cannon mounted on it.

/BBBBBBBRRRRRPPPPPTTTTT


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2018-07-11 09:07:29 PM  
But what kind of mileage does he get?
 
2018-07-11 09:07:32 PM  

ClavellBCMI: UsikFark: They have all kinds of weapons on pickup trucks, even anti-tank guns. Unrelated pic from the twitter feed:

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T-55/T-62 after a turret blow-off due to fuel/ammo detonation, probably (thinking more T-55, due to the main gun).


I was just thinking that I'm happy to not be the one doing the AGARS report or 5960 investigation. What a mess. Hearing about the story later, now that interests me.

/admin and commo
//I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't cause me paperwork
///three line slashie format
 
2018-07-11 09:12:30 PM  

ClavellBCMI: mjjt: Has always been a Special Order item for American trucks

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That is the 7.62mm Mini-Gun, not the M167 20mm Gatling system.

UsikFark: They have all kinds of weapons on pickup trucks, even anti-tank guns. Unrelated pic from the twitter feed:

[img.fark.net image 600x402]

T-55/T-62 after a turret blow-off due to fuel/ammo detonation, probably (thinking more T-55, due to the main gun).


T-55 for sure. T-62 has the bore evaluator halfway down the main gun barrel. T-54/55 have it on the end of the gun. Low res pic but T-54 has a mushroom housing for fume evac fan above the main gun on the front top of turret, and I dont see it here.

Soviet tanks have a nasty habit of popping their tops when hit.
 
2018-07-11 09:30:26 PM  
Toyota...preferred vehicles of rebels, terrorists, freedom fighters, revolutionaries, and militias around the world.

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2018-07-11 11:46:28 PM  
Watch the whole series, can't kill a Hi -Lux:
Killing a Toyota Part 1 | Top Gear | BBC
Youtube xnWKz7Cthkk
 
2018-07-12 12:13:51 AM  

BigNumber12: Resident Muslim: The clips of Pakistani forces with mean caliber weapons on pickup trucks were ridiculous.
I honestly seem to recall one with anti-aircraft or something so absurd, you'd think the kick-back would topple the small pickup.

[YouTube video: Recoiless Rifle fail]


Damn. Looks like an ill-designed canon.

Here. This is the one I had in mind. Headline says ISIS:
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2018-07-12 12:44:24 AM  

Resident Muslim: BigNumber12: Resident Muslim: The clips of Pakistani forces with mean caliber weapons on pickup trucks were ridiculous.
I honestly seem to recall one with anti-aircraft or something so absurd, you'd think the kick-back would topple the small pickup.

[YouTube video: Recoiless Rifle fail]

Damn. Looks like an ill-designed canon.

Here. This is the one I had in mind. Headline says ISIS:
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It's not a cannon, it's a recoilless rifle. Looks like a B-11. And the design is perfectly serviceable, the problem wasn't the recoil (which is why the back half of that truck didn't go flying down the road), it was the gasses venting out the back of the rifle. Those gasses are how those rifles counteract the recoil normally associated with the rather large rounds that they are designed to fire. Normally the large RCLs are towed emplacement weapons, they have their own trailer and there's no obstruction behind the rifle. Tossing one in the back of a truck and leaving the tailgate up to obstruct the breech vents is a good way to rip off said tailgate and the rear fender it's minimally attached to, which is exactly what happened in that video.

RCLs are man portable as well, Carl Gustavs are issued to US Rangers and USSOCOM still to this day, and are quite effective. They're like the shotguns of man-portable artillery with respect to versatility. Anything from HEAT to grapeshot.

Had they just kept the rifle on the trailer it was attached to and put a hitch on the truck they'd have had a much more effective weapon. Infinitely more agile in a high-tension situation (one guy to hold onto the hitch tongue and position the rifle, the other to sit in the gunner's seat and make fine adjustments and fire) and gives you more options to engage because the truck can nominally have an MG mounted and move to flank or pin down the target.
 
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