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(Entertainment Weekly)   Even the star of 'Westworld' admits she had 'no idea at all' what was going on in season 2   ( ew.com) divider line
    More: Facepalm, Actor, Evan Rachel Wood, costar Ed Harris, American film actors, season finale twist, showrunner Jonathan Nolan, deep-dive post-finale interview, Film  
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2018-07-11 05:33:43 PM  
These hiatused delights have poorly written ends.
 
2018-07-11 06:09:28 PM  
I loved the first episode of the first season. Halfway through the first season, I had realized the flashback has now replaced the shaky, out of focus, one camera shot.

Now if they would make a Parks and Recreation season of unintelligible flashbacks, I would watch that. Ron Swanson from his crib would be a hoot.
 
2018-07-11 06:09:28 PM  
Is Jonathan Nolan the new Damon Lindelof?
 
2018-07-11 06:11:36 PM  
Makes sense. It's a real detriment to your actors when you force them to not act, and stand idly by while events that are never explained unfold.
 
2018-07-11 06:13:57 PM  
The series finale will show that Westworld is a simulation being run by interdimensional beings that are looking for the answer to the ultimate question.  Coincidentally, these beings manifest as mice when they are in our dimension.
 
2018-07-11 06:16:02 PM  
where the hell was Eden being transmuted to?

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2018-07-11 06:21:32 PM  
Beautiful lady.
 
2018-07-11 06:21:54 PM  

LegacyDL: Is Jonathan Nolan the new Damon Lindelof?


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2018-07-11 06:26:44 PM  
I love how everyone in these threads is an accomplished writer, expert on characterization and noted scholar of story arcs.
 
2018-07-11 06:27:46 PM  
Luckily, since she plays a robot, she doesn't have to worry about character motivation except "kill all the humans".
 
2018-07-11 06:41:07 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Luckily, since she plays a robot, she doesn't have to worry about character motivation except "kill all the humans".


And fark Teddy.
 
2018-07-11 06:57:48 PM  
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Tyrone Slothrop: Luckily, since she plays a robot, she doesn't have to worry about character motivation except "kill all the humans".


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2018-07-11 07:05:01 PM  

DecemberNitro: I love how everyone in these threads is an accomplished writer, expert on characterization and noted scholar of story arcs.


Wanking.gif
 
2018-07-11 07:05:14 PM  

LegacyDL: Is Jonathan Nolan the new Damon Lindelof?


Since i loved The Leftovers, I'm ok with that
 
2018-07-11 07:08:00 PM  
Spoiler alert, the Parks were never about entertaining the Guests.
 
2018-07-11 07:10:24 PM  

OkieDookie: The series finale will show that Westworld is a simulation being run by interdimensional beings that are looking for the answer to the ultimate question.  Coincidentally, these beings manifest as mice when they are in our dimension.


I thought that was the series finale
 
2018-07-11 07:17:30 PM  
I also had no idea.
 
2018-07-11 07:20:45 PM  

NathanAllen: Spoiler alert, the Parks were never about entertaining the Guests.


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2018-07-11 07:26:47 PM  

DecemberNitro: I love how everyone in these threads is an accomplished writer, expert on characterization and noted scholar of story arcs.


You don't need to be a chef to know when you've eaten shiatty food.
 
2018-07-11 07:38:19 PM  
Ugh hello Ford is the park, and Delos is his hostage.   Am I the only one who reads cyberpunk fiction around here?
 
2018-07-11 07:41:37 PM  
I bailed on Westworld after about three episodes, maybe. I detected a lot of self-important wankery and irritation, if extremely well acted. I'm still sure I made the right decision.
 
2018-07-11 07:50:33 PM  
I kinda dug the ending, but yes; Woods was very one-note through much of the second season.


/though that note rang of extreme violence, which is very metal
 
2018-07-11 08:00:58 PM  
NathanAllen: Spoiler alert, the Parks were never about entertaining the Guests

^^^ This. It was about this:

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It was about storing the brain scans of all 4 million of the guests so that they could be downloaded in to replicas of themselves. For a price, of course. How's that working out for you so far, William?
 
2018-07-11 08:03:33 PM  
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(' I really enjoyed first 5 minutes of Westworld s1e1. After that it was the worst thing since ever. Unfortunately wooden archetypes and telegraphing plot armor, mary sue not to mention trope, was shallow and pedantic.  Overall generic needlessly over complex subpar female lead politically motivated genre gentrification, furthermore overdone theme, pathetic. ')

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2018-07-11 08:05:09 PM  

Henry Holland: NathanAllen: Spoiler alert, the Parks were never about entertaining the Guests

^^^ This. It was about this:

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It was about storing the brain scans of all 4 million of the guests so that they could be downloaded in to replicas of themselves. For a price, of course. How's that working out for you so far, William?


But it was great that there was a twist Delos never expected; and even better that Ford/Bernard devised a new use.

/no spoils, but it made me think of Wintermute.
 
2018-07-11 08:14:17 PM  
This is a good thing really. The actors don't need to know what is happening in the overall story other than what directly affects their character. It allows them to give more authentic performances and lets the showrunners make a better show altogether. When actors know too much or have creative control it can easily ruin a good show.
 
2018-07-11 08:37:58 PM  
Legion on FX does a much better job of putting style ahead of storytelling.
 
2018-07-11 08:51:34 PM  

Ronin Around: This is a good thing really. The actors don't need to know what is happening in the overall story other than what directly affects their character. It allows them to give more authentic performances and lets the showrunners make a better show altogether. When actors know too much or have creative control it can easily ruin a good show.


As someone has worked in film and tv for 23 years that is a whole lot of bullshiat.

As for Westworld I don't know if more seasons are planned but I am done with it.   The gimmick got old.
 
2018-07-11 08:59:20 PM  
That is one very talented and attractive woman.

/Love the redheads.

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2018-07-11 09:32:37 PM  
Meh, Westworld hasn't been good since the first table read of the pilot.
 
2018-07-11 09:52:36 PM  
Dolores == The Sad One
Maeve == dayum!
Elsie == daang.
 
2018-07-11 09:59:33 PM  

DecemberNitro: I love how everyone in these threads is an accomplished writer, expert on characterization and noted scholar of story arcs.


Art is incomplete without an audience.

/seriously, what kind of wankery was that?
//You could literally justify any piece of art as good because anyone who criticizes it clearly isn't "advanced" enough to get it.
///If you like it, good for you. If you think it is good, make a case for it.
 
2018-07-11 10:11:42 PM  

LegacyDL: Is Jonathan Nolan the new Damon Lindelof?


It's more Lisa Joy's fault. If you've read any interviews she sounds just like Elsie Hughes.  I'm no prude, but dropping F-Bombs left and right proves to me she's a sloppy writer.  Don't forget they shut down production during Season 1 due to the fact they wrote themselves into a corner.  Thought I read somewhere Christopher Nolan helped bail them out of that corner.

Next season is supposedly between Bernard and Dolores in the real world.  I would have rather seen the time jump be used from the post-credits scene.  And if the next season tanks we'll never see why William 2.0 was in the Forge.

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2018-07-11 10:30:49 PM  
Not to toot my own horn much, but I'm not exactly an idiot. I've got some serious academic chops, am a successful professional in my field, and I really enjoy complexity and depth in my TV.  But season 2 was off the rails with the convolutions & flashing about in the timeline. It's was just plain confusing as hell, and on purpose.  I'm watching, I'm paying attention, I understand what's happening in scenes and yet for around half of season 2 I couldn't pull together a cohesive plot.  It was substituting purposeful confusion for good, engaging storytelling.  It was compelling to watch because it's sold so well, and the expansions to the story were good. But it was also just annoying as hell to be wondering where in time you ARE half the time, and unable to interpret what exactly is going on because you can't definitively nail down where in the timeline you are.

Season 1 did it better with one solid flashback storyline that a perceptive viewer could suss out before the reveal and that brought clarity to events in the current timeline.  This season turned that device into a bit of a cheap stunt.
 
2018-07-11 10:41:43 PM  
She's getting more beautiful with every episode.
 
2018-07-11 11:23:32 PM  
The season was a mess. There was only about two seasons of development of the narrative. The rest was lengthy quests or subplots (samurailand, native American land) that just added complexity to the park without advancing anything. Too much pointless fighting involving the dumbest security forces ever. I also didn't care for the noble quest to give sentience to the hosts being converted to Ford wanting to burn it all down.
And having Delores create Bernard was stupid and didn't work with season 1 content.
 
2018-07-11 11:31:35 PM  
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2018-07-11 11:39:29 PM  

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But, technically you could care less.
 
2018-07-11 11:40:40 PM  
Subby, that article isn't about Thandie Newton.
 
2018-07-12 12:44:01 AM  
I stopped watching midway through season 2 and then binged them last week.  The Akecheta episode and Maeve's arc were real strengths.  The reuse of the dual timeline trick was a bit annoying, though.  Hopefully they choose another narrative structure to work with next season.
 
2018-07-12 01:31:09 AM  

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(' I really enjoyed first 5 minutes of Westworld s1e1. After that it was the worst thing since ever. Unfortunately wooden archetypes and telegraphing plot armor, mary sue not to mention trope, was shallow and pedantic.  Overall generic needlessly over complex subpar female lead politically motivated genre gentrification, furthermore overdone theme, pathetic. ')

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I totally read that in Bishops voice.
 
2018-07-12 06:13:12 AM  

OkieDookie: The series finale will show that Westworld is a simulation being run by interdimensional beings that are looking for the answer to the ultimate question.  Coincidentally, these beings manifest as mice when they are in our dimension.


Nope.  The last shot will be a pull back of a dark haired grizzled man, eyes closed.  It stops for a beat, framing his face perfectly.  He then opens his eyes and says "Whoa".
 
2018-07-12 07:00:17 AM  

NathanAllen: Spoiler alert, the Parks were never about entertaining the Guests.


That makes sense, since the show was never about entertaining the viewer.
 
2018-07-12 12:44:10 PM  

DecemberNitro: I love how everyone in these threads is an accomplished writer, expert on characterization and noted scholar of story arcs.


I hope you don't go around expressing opinions about stuff you're not an expert on, or boy would this comment make you look bad!!!
 
2018-07-12 05:40:49 PM  
Dear people who aren't experts on 20th Century British opera like I am:

Shut the hell up with your opinions. If you can't talk for six hours about the use of leitmotivs in Britten's Death in Venice, not only are you a peasant, I debase myself by even acknowledging your puny existence.

/Am I doing it right?
 
2018-07-12 06:42:17 PM  

DecemberNitro: I love how everyone in these threads is an accomplished writer, expert on characterization and noted scholar of story arcs.


Found Johnathan Nolan's Fark account...

/Sorry Reddit totally predicted everything you guys thought was so clever in season one, but that doesn't mean you gotta make EVERYTHING convoluted from here on.
 
2018-07-12 07:23:10 PM  

You Are All Sheep: OkieDookie: The series finale will show that Westworld is a simulation being run by interdimensional beings that are looking for the answer to the ultimate question.  Coincidentally, these beings manifest as mice when they are in our dimension.

Nope.  The last shot will be a pull back of a dark haired grizzled man, eyes closed.  It stops for a beat, framing his face perfectly.  He then opens his eyes and says "Whoa".


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