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(Twitter)   Welp, guess this is goodbye, Mueller. Also, f*ck you, Manchin   ( twitter.com) divider line
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2018-07-11 02:45:00 PM  
Original Tweet:

 
2018-07-11 02:46:07 PM  
time to drop the goods, Bob
 
2018-07-11 02:48:17 PM  
July 11, 2018 officially marks the day my teeth were ground down to little nubs.
 
2018-07-11 02:49:49 PM  
Wow.

Just...

This really is the beginning of the end isn't it?

Since he's the head, he can drop any and all investigations and prosecutions at will.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

Please.
 
2018-07-11 02:50:35 PM  

Original: Original Tweet:

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Corrupt f*cks.
 
2018-07-11 02:52:08 PM  
Does this guy even have any control over Mueller?  I thought Rosenstein was the only guy that could fire Mueller.
 
2018-07-11 02:52:38 PM  

HedlessChickn: Wow.

Just...

This really is the beginning of the end isn't it?

Since he's the head, he can drop any and all investigations and prosecutions at will.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

Please.


uhhhhh, *pulls you aside* look, i didn't want to be the one to tell you this but...

...it's pretty bad. I think the republic has a 40/60 shot of lasting until November.

now look, there are some experimental treatments we can do, but they're very invasive and bloody and I'm just not sure the republic will survive if we went down that path, but the current prognosis isn't looking too great either.

also, we have orange cancer
 
2018-07-11 02:52:57 PM  
I can't wait to see how Manchin's Fark Fanclub will support this.
 
2018-07-11 02:53:29 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Does this guy even have any control over Mueller?  I thought Rosenstein was the only guy that could fire Mueller.


funding. I believe he has the power to divert investigatory resources (money and manpower)
 
2018-07-11 02:54:12 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait to see how Manchin's Fark Fanclub will support this.


By pointing out that it didn't make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, and he was getting the job anyway with the full support of the GOP.
 
2018-07-11 02:55:03 PM  

somedude210: I think the republic has a 40/60 shot of lasting until November.


"We are suspending the elections due to National Security. As soon as the threat is over, elections will continue."

Narrator: They'll never happen again
 
2018-07-11 02:55:24 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Does this guy even have any control over Mueller?  I thought Rosenstein was the only guy that could fire Mueller.


Donnie can now fire Sessions and Rosenstein.  Since Rachel Brand resigned in February there was no one to take over for Rosenstein should he leave his post, so Donnie's hands were tied.  Now he's free to fire away until he gets to this asshole who can squash Mueller's operations.
 
2018-07-11 02:56:29 PM  

Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait to see how Manchin's Fark Fanclub will support this.

By pointing out that it didn't make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, and he was getting the job anyway with the full support of the GOP.


Made it bipartisan. Again.

He's just so damn valuable.  Can't you see how valuable he is?  Actually, no, I can't.  That one vote that one time doesn't make up for all of his other bullshiat.
 
2018-07-11 02:57:32 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait to see how Manchin's Fark Fanclub will support this.


But he's so much better than having an R in that spot. No real dem could win in WV, anyway.

/huge farking eye-roll
// wanking motion
/// kicks wall
 
2018-07-11 02:57:37 PM  
I'm thinking maybe they shouldn't have split up Virginia after the Civil War.

It's biting our ass.
 
2018-07-11 03:00:16 PM  
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"What if dawn never comes?"
 
2018-07-11 03:00:37 PM  

whidbey: I'm thinking maybe they shouldn't have split up Virginia after the Civil War.

It's biting our ass.


We need to merge the Virginias, Dakotas, and Carolinas and make Puerto Rico a state.
 
2018-07-11 03:01:48 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait to see how Manchin's Fark Fanclub will support this.

By pointing out that it didn't make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, and he was getting the job anyway with the full support of the GOP.

Made it bipartisan. Again.

He's just so damn valuable.  Can't you see how valuable he is?  Actually, no, I can't.  That one vote that one time doesn't make up for all of his other bullshiat.


pretty much. I get the party's internal calculus of "look, he's a Democrat in a state that goes deep red in presidential elections. We can't primary him because we'll lose a seat!"

but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."

/2018 is going to see the GOP get smaller and more diehard fascist
//but the Democrats will be forced to acknowledge the growing bloc of young progressives in their ranks
///the smart Democrats will gather that bloc into the most powerful one in the party and take charge
 
2018-07-11 03:06:19 PM  
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2018-07-11 03:06:52 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait to see how Manchin's Fark Fanclub will support this.

By pointing out that it didn't make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, and he was getting the job anyway with the full support of the GOP.

Made it bipartisan. Again.

He's just so damn valuable.  Can't you see how valuable he is?  Actually, no, I can't.  That one vote that one time doesn't make up for all of his other bullshiat.


Nobody, and I mean nobody, would seriously claim that 48 No and 1 Yes from the opposing party is bipartisan. So I'll just put it as simple as I can. If Manchin were the libbiest lib that ever libbed, would his no vote have change this?
 
2018-07-11 03:08:36 PM  

somedude210: but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."


A GOP Senator in that seat means that the GOP had the votes to demolish ACA. So yeah, he makes a difference.

You can have Manchin, or a hard right Republican. Up to you. Please tell me which you would prefer.
 
2018-07-11 03:10:13 PM  
i wonder how big the bribe was?
 
2018-07-11 03:10:32 PM  

Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait to see how Manchin's Fark Fanclub will support this.

By pointing out that it didn't make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, and he was getting the job anyway with the full support of the GOP.

Made it bipartisan. Again.

He's just so damn valuable.  Can't you see how valuable he is?  Actually, no, I can't.  That one vote that one time doesn't make up for all of his other bullshiat.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, would seriously claim that 48 No and 1 Yes from the opposing party is bipartisan. So I'll just put it as simple as I can. If Manchin were the libbiest lib that ever libbed, would his no vote have change this?


Wrong.  Fox News would.

And so would Trump.

Whenever it suits them.
 
2018-07-11 03:10:36 PM  

Gubbo: somedude210: but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."

A GOP Senator in that seat means that the GOP had the votes to demolish ACA. So yeah, he makes a difference.

You can have Manchin, or a hard right Republican. Up to you. Please tell me which you would prefer.


So the options are Manchin or...Manchin?  It's a tough call.
 
2018-07-11 03:11:37 PM  

Gubbo: somedude210: but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."

A GOP Senator in that seat means that the GOP had the votes to demolish ACA. So yeah, he makes a difference.

You can have Manchin, or a hard right Republican. Up to you. Please tell me which you would prefer.


From this article's comments:

"The problem with 'friends' like Manchin is that you have to watch your back. I would almost rather have a Rethug in West Virginia than a 'red dog' like this dope. At least the Dems would know who the enemy is."
 
2018-07-11 03:12:08 PM  
10 minutes and I called almost verbatim. Am I getting good at this or is the argument getting old and predictable?
 
2018-07-11 03:14:21 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Gubbo: somedude210: but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."

A GOP Senator in that seat means that the GOP had the votes to demolish ACA. So yeah, he makes a difference.

You can have Manchin, or a hard right Republican. Up to you. Please tell me which you would prefer.

So the options are Manchin or...Manchin?  It's a tough call.


No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.
 
2018-07-11 03:16:45 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Gubbo: somedude210: but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."

A GOP Senator in that seat means that the GOP had the votes to demolish ACA. So yeah, he makes a difference.

You can have Manchin, or a hard right Republican. Up to you. Please tell me which you would prefer.

From this article's comments:

"The problem with 'friends' like Manchin is that you have to watch your back. I would almost rather have a Rethug in West Virginia than a 'red dog' like this dope. At least the Dems would know who the enemy is."


Tell you what, come at me when Manchin is the swing vote on some horrific GOP policy or nomination, and then you can put me in my place and I'll accept it.
 
2018-07-11 03:18:31 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: whidbey: I'm thinking maybe they shouldn't have split up Virginia after the Civil War.

It's biting our ass.

We need to merge the Virginias, Dakotas, and Carolinas and make Puerto Rico a state.


Honestly, I'd settle for making Puerto Rico a state.
 
2018-07-11 03:20:11 PM  

Gubbo: hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion,


I could go on, but....

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2018-07-11 03:20:31 PM  
Well...f*ck me.

Maybe i should vote for Cali to leave this f*cked up union after all.... .

/tempting
 
2018-07-11 03:22:58 PM  

Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,


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....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.
 
2018-07-11 03:24:09 PM  

Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: Gubbo: somedude210: but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."

A GOP Senator in that seat means that the GOP had the votes to demolish ACA. So yeah, he makes a difference.

You can have Manchin, or a hard right Republican. Up to you. Please tell me which you would prefer.

So the options are Manchin or...Manchin?  It's a tough call.

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.


I don't trust Joe Manchin to stand against any one of those.  If you do, well, I have a bridge I think you should be interested in buying, it's a fantastic side hustle.
 
2018-07-11 03:25:05 PM  
If, through some miracle, the Democrats do take the Senate, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Manchin changes parties to fark with that.

Would be interesting to see what kompromat Putin has on him, what with having a daughter who should be in prison.
 
2018-07-11 03:27:31 PM  

wooden_badger: If, through some miracle, the Democrats do take the Senate, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Manchin changes parties to fark with that.


I would be thoroughly shocked if he didn't do exactly that.
 
2018-07-11 03:28:39 PM  

holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.


Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.
 
2018-07-11 03:29:08 PM  

Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.


Move those goalposts.
 
2018-07-11 03:29:22 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: Gubbo: somedude210: but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."

A GOP Senator in that seat means that the GOP had the votes to demolish ACA. So yeah, he makes a difference.

You can have Manchin, or a hard right Republican. Up to you. Please tell me which you would prefer.

So the options are Manchin or...Manchin?  It's a tough call.

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.

I don't trust Joe Manchin to stand against any one of those.  If you do, well, I have a bridge I think you should be interested in buying, it's a fantastic side hustle.


He already stood in line against aca repeal and the GOP tax giveaway. So yeah, I'm trusting him.
 
2018-07-11 03:29:27 PM  

Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: Gubbo: somedude210: but they never take into account the next part: "well, if he keeps winning then the state really isn't all that deep red to begin with. Put a sensible progressive in there for once and see what happens. Worse case is the next senator from WV votes with the GOP 95% of the time. I don't see how that's different than what we have now."

A GOP Senator in that seat means that the GOP had the votes to demolish ACA. So yeah, he makes a difference.

You can have Manchin, or a hard right Republican. Up to you. Please tell me which you would prefer.

So the options are Manchin or...Manchin?  It's a tough call.

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.


Just so you can read what you said.
 
2018-07-11 03:30:19 PM  

holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.

Move those goalposts.


I already said that earlier in the thread. I think I have clearly set my goalposts. When he does that, I'm perfectly happy for you to say you told me so.
 
2018-07-11 03:31:52 PM  

Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.

Move those goalposts.

I already said that earlier in the thread. I think I have clearly set my goalposts. When he does that, I'm perfectly happy for you to say you told me so.


Ahem

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.
 
2018-07-11 03:33:35 PM  

holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.

Move those goalposts.

I already said that earlier in the thread. I think I have clearly set my goalposts. When he does that, I'm perfectly happy for you to say you told me so.

Ahem

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.


So you don't see a difference between Manchin and say, Ted Cruz. That's your position. Really?

If you want to again state that, then it's fine. But take some emotion out of your answer, and answer me on an honest intellectual level.
 
2018-07-11 03:35:02 PM  

holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.

Move those goalposts.

I already said that earlier in the thread. I think I have clearly set my goalposts. When he does that, I'm perfectly happy for you to say you told me so.

Ahem

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.


Well when you move the goalposts from "he won't support" to "he won't be the swing vote for"...
 
2018-07-11 03:36:41 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.

Move those goalposts.

I already said that earlier in the thread. I think I have clearly set my goalposts. When he does that, I'm perfectly happy for you to say you told me so.

Ahem

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.

Well when you move the goalposts from "he won't support" to "he won't be the swing vote for"...


So tell me why he didn't vote to dismantle ACA or give trillions away in the tax scam?

Since those are two of my examples.
 
2018-07-11 03:42:27 PM  

Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.

Move those goalposts.

I already said that earlier in the thread. I think I have clearly set my goalposts. When he does that, I'm perfectly happy for you to say you told me so.

Ahem

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.

So you don't see a difference between Manchin and say, Ted Cruz. That's your position. Really?

If you want to again state that, then it's fine. But take some emotion out of your answer, and answer me on an honest intellectual level.


Where did I say he was like Ted Cruz? He's like a run of the mill republican. I don't see why a region that will elect him would defer to a total lunatic rep if he weren't there. It's a conservative region that largely votes dem because of unions and history (they don't teach the Southern Strategy there). They'd likely vote for a moderate rep instead of him, if anything. Hell, maybe they're sick of how things are and would welcome change if the right dem came along.

And, while that may be slightly better, it allows things to become bipartisan and allows republicans to rally around "working together".

Anyway, I have no say in it. They choose their own destiny. I just wish they didn't always choose a shiatty path and vote more for taking away from others than helping themselves - because they really need it.
 
2018-07-11 03:44:21 PM  

holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.

Move those goalposts.

I already said that earlier in the thread. I think I have clearly set my goalposts. When he does that, I'm perfectly happy for you to say you told me so.

Ahem

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.

So you don't see a difference between Manchin and say, Ted Cruz. That's your position. Really?

If you want to again state that, then it's fine. But take some emotion out of your answer, and answer me on an honest intellectual level.

Where did I say he was like Ted Cruz? He's like a run of the mill republican. I don't see why a region that will elect him would defer to a total lunatic rep if he weren't there. It's a conservative region that largely votes dem because of unions and history (they don't teach the Southern Strategy there). They'd likely vote for a moderate rep instead of him, if anything. Hell, maybe they're sick of how things are and would welcome change if the right dem came along.

And, while that may be slightly better, it allows things to become bipartisan and allows republicans to rally around "working together".

Anyway, I have no say in it. They choose their own destiny. I just wish they didn't always choose a shiatty path and vote more for taking away from others than helping themselves - because they really need it.


You're implying he's no different than a GOP hard right Senator. Cruz is an example of a GOP hard right Senator. Or Mike Lee is another example.
 
2018-07-11 03:45:46 PM  
I'm done for today explaining why a Democrat that isn't pure enough is better than a Republican who is pure evil.

I'll do it next time of course because it's important, but for today I'm done.
 
2018-07-11 03:51:56 PM  

Gubbo: AdmirableSnackbar: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: holdmybones: Gubbo: , give trillions to billionaires,

[img.fark.net image 422x750]....I could go on all day, but I hope I've made my point.

Not a single one of those is he the swing vote. So until that point hits, I don't care. Come at me when he turns something horrific from a no to a yes.

Move those goalposts.

I already said that earlier in the thread. I think I have clearly set my goalposts. When he does that, I'm perfectly happy for you to say you told me so.

Ahem

No. Your options are Manchin or a hard right GOP who wants to restrict abortion, give trillions to billionaires, privatise social security, reverse marraige equality... I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.

Well when you move the goalposts from "he won't support" to "he won't be the swing vote for"...

So tell me why he didn't vote to dismantle ACA or give trillions away in the tax scam?

Since those are two of my examples.


He voted for:

Kirstjen Neilson
Alex Azar
White Bouse version of the Immigration Bill
Mike Pompeo
Sonny Purdue
Alex Acosta
Neil Gorsuch


So, given that he didn't vote to eliminate the ACA and for the tax bill, he's still awful for the Democratic Party.
 
2018-07-11 03:53:21 PM  
Gubbo:

He shares many qualities with hardcore right wingers. I would say more than he shares with the average dem.
 
2018-07-11 03:55:22 PM  

Gubbo: I'm done for today explaining why a Democrat that isn't pure enough is better than a Republican who is pure evil.

I'll do it next time of course because it's important, but for today I'm done.


You wonder if you get frustrated because you rely on hyperbole and putting words in people's mouths?

He's not an impure dem. He's a republican running as a dem. I've shown this through his voting record multiple times. I'm sorry you don't get that some of these folks are bad for the party and could be replaced by better people. Just because someone was once elected as a dem doesn't mean they are unquestionable.
 
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