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(Sports Illustrated)   Tampa Bay Rays unveil new stadium plans. Billionaire owner generously offers to chip in 15% of the $900 million projected cost. Whattaguy   ( si.com) divider line
    More: Unlikely, Tampa, Florida, Ybor City, Ybor City stadium, Hillsborough County, Florida, Rays team president, Baseball park, Hillsborough County, Major League Baseball  
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4 days ago  
Morons will once again get farked by the big buck boys.
 
4 days ago  
Found their new stadium.

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Sadly they won't be able to sell this one out either.
 
4 days ago  

OkieDookie: Found their new stadium.

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Sadly they won't be able to sell this one out either.


15% of $900M is $135M. This years' total attendance so far is 618,017. So he's going to pay $218.44 for every fan that shows up.
 
4 days ago  
just for reference, here's where the numbers came from

https://www.baseball-reference.com/le​a​gues/MLB/2018-misc.shtml
 
4 days ago  
"It's not just a ballpark, it's a community asset."

That the community doesn't own, but pays for.  More of a liability, but that's just a number on the other side of the ledger.  And ledgers always balance, so it's really the same thing. You're welcome, Tampa.
 
4 days ago  
If the local population has to pay to build the stadium for YOUR baseball team, shouldn't they be given free admission? Maybe send Wilson Ramos to a kid's birthday party to sock some dingers?
 
4 days ago  
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These plutocratic assholes need a shave from the National Razor.
 
4 days ago  
But the Marlins got such a nice deal! We want it too!
 
4 days ago  
Also, $900 million for a new stadium for the Rays?? How about instead, you take a 1/3 of that and put a product on the current field that can actually win a World Series?

Alternatively, move them to Montreal and make them the Expos. Maybe then, you'll actually see a return on that investment within the next century.
 
4 days ago  
"A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...
 
4 days ago  
But as Rays team president Brian Auld told reporters at Tuesday's event when asked about who would be on the hook for that, "We don't have those answers yet."

You have the answer. You're just not willing to utter it in public.
 
4 days ago  

SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...


...he posted from the Murder Capital of America.
 
4 days ago  

FLMountainMan: SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...

...he posted from the Murder Capital of America.


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He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?
 
4 days ago  

SkylineRecords: FLMountainMan: SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...

...he posted from the Murder Capital of America.

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He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?


It's where Obama is from.


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4 days ago  

SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?


Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.
 
4 days ago  

Riothamus: SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?

Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.


You're lucky. My pants-cleaning bill is 35% of my net income.
 
4 days ago  
There is no actual plan to build this stadium. This is just a proposal by Stu so when he moves the team to Portland or whatever idiot city wants to pay public funds for a stadium he can say "Well I tried..."

There is absolutely no parking in that area and the streets can't handle gameday traffic. But there is up to 20,000 parking spots in a 20 minute walk you say? Yeah, go ahead and walk for a mile in East Tampa in a afternoon summer day in Florida. Grandpa Earl will totally be happy walking in either hot and humid or a torrential downpour, most likely both in the same 20 minute walk. Not to mention the lovely neighborhoods you would have to walk through.
 
4 days ago  

Sniveling Coward: Riothamus: SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?

Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.

You're lucky. My pants-cleaning bill is 35% of my net income.


Username checks out ;)
 
4 days ago  

Riothamus: SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?

Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.


It's adjusted for percentage by population, which is estimated at just under 500,000. I do believe we've gotten WAY off topic, though.
 
4 days ago  

Boba Fettucini: There is no actual plan to build this stadium. This is just a proposal by Stu so when he moves the team to Portland or whatever idiot city wants to pay public funds for a stadium he can say "Well I tried..."

There is absolutely no parking in that area and the streets can't handle gameday traffic. But there is up to 20,000 parking spots in a 20 minute walk you say? Yeah, go ahead and walk for a mile in East Tampa in a afternoon summer day in Florida. Grandpa Earl will totally be happy walking in either hot and humid or a torrential downpour, most likely both in the same 20 minute walk. Not to mention the lovely neighborhoods you would have to walk through.


Its a foot in the door for the lucrative transit plans their fellow well-connected millionaires are also pushing for.
 
4 days ago  

FLMountainMan: SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...

...he posted from the Murder Capital of America.


Hillary Clinton's pizzaria's?
 
4 days ago  
And let me guess he wants all the money off of parking, concessions and anything else he can think of while the city pays for the upkeep and utilities? Is he pulling the "Local area will make $XXXXX on every game day" line yet?
 
4 days ago  
This isn't going to work:
1) In the last 15 years to price of a new stadium has soared from $175 million to over $1 billion
2) Tampa is actually a pretty small city. It ranks just ahead of Bakerfield, CA and Aurora, CO
3) Tampa taxpayers are still paying for the fleecing by the Glazer family to keep the Bucs
4) After the Marlins stadium debacle the state isn't going to help

So... huge stadium expense, small tax base, existing taxes going to pay for another stadium, and no outside support. Good luck!
 
4 days ago  
At this point, do we have any valid reasons to not nationalize major league sports leagues?

It's not like Holy Free Market Principles (praise be upon them!) apply to taxpayer-funded entities that have been granted exclusive antitrust exemptions.
 
4 days ago  

iamskibibitz: 2) Tampa is actually a pretty small city. It ranks just ahead of Bakerfield, CA and Aurora, CO


The Metropolitan Statistical Area is the 18th largest, ahead of Denver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of​_​metropolitan_statistical_areas
 
4 days ago  
Offer State license plates with the team logo on it. The team gets a portion of the funds from those plates and is on the hook for anything left over.
 
4 days ago  
Montreal is nice this time of year...just saying.
 
4 days ago  
So, women's teams will get half the time slots in it?   No?... Then no woman should be required to  'donate' her taxes for it.

/ imagine the outcry if blacks/latinos/Asians etc were required to pay taxes toward a facility that didn't allow them on the field?
 
4 days ago  
No one ever became a billionaire by spending their own money
 
4 days ago  

Sniveling Coward: Riothamus: SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?

Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.

You're lucky. My pants-cleaning bill is 35% of my net income.


Username checks out.
Sorry, had to.
 
4 days ago  

Boba Fettucini: There is no actual plan to build this stadium. This is just a proposal by Stu so when he moves the team to Portland or whatever idiot city wants to pay public funds for a stadium he can say "Well I tried..."

There is absolutely no parking in that area and the streets can't handle gameday traffic. But there is up to 20,000 parking spots in a 20 minute walk you say? Yeah, go ahead and walk for a mile in East Tampa in a afternoon summer day in Florida. Grandpa Earl will totally be happy walking in either hot and humid or a torrential downpour, most likely both in the same 20 minute walk. Not to mention the lovely neighborhoods you would have to walk through.


Try the neighborhood New Comiskey was built in. I can guarantee you *nobody* stays there any longer than it takes to get out of the armed-security-patrolled parking lot after a game.
 
4 days ago  
If he is only going to put up 15%, he only gets a 15% share of the ownership of the stadium, and only gets 15% of the revenue from concessions and parking, until the costs of constructing the stadium are paid. The public entities that fund the stadium get the other 85% to share amongst themselves, based on the % of the money spent by each public entity towards the new stadium, again until the costs of constructing the stadium are paid. After that, Asshole Sportsball Team Owner can have the stadium all to himself (and if he tries to bail from the stadium before it is paid for, he is immediately on the hook for the full remaining costs of building the stadium, even if he declares bankruptcy, which is why the public entities make sure that their share of the costs of building the stadium are declared as a fully-secured loan, with the assets of the team and the owner being declared as the security for the loan). Not that any sportsball owner would allow such a thing, unless they were forced into it.
 
4 days ago  

SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...


I live in Tampa.  And let me tell you something.  This places rocks.  I've lived in a number of places before I settled down here, and this city offers the best quality of life by far.  So please keep it that way, and tell everybody else it sucks.  Yeah, that's it.  Tampa is terrible.  Don't move here.
 
4 days ago  

iron_city_ap: Offer State license plates with the team logo on it. The team gets a portion of the funds from those plates and is on the hook for anything left over.


They already have those.  Every team and college in the state has a specialty license plate you can buy, and the extra money goes to youth sports charities.

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4 days ago  

ClavellBCMI: Boba Fettucini: There is no actual plan to build this stadium. This is just a proposal by Stu so when he moves the team to Portland or whatever idiot city wants to pay public funds for a stadium he can say "Well I tried..."

There is absolutely no parking in that area and the streets can't handle gameday traffic. But there is up to 20,000 parking spots in a 20 minute walk you say? Yeah, go ahead and walk for a mile in East Tampa in a afternoon summer day in Florida. Grandpa Earl will totally be happy walking in either hot and humid or a torrential downpour, most likely both in the same 20 minute walk. Not to mention the lovely neighborhoods you would have to walk through.

Try the neighborhood New Comiskey was built in. I can guarantee you *nobody* stays there any longer than it takes to get out of the armed-security-patrolled parking lot after a game.


Don't be such a pants-pissing Nancy. And try not to be so full of shiat. I grant you there's not a ton to do in walking distance from the park, but your depiction of the danger is about 30 years tardy.
 
4 days ago  

WhiskeySticks: Montreal is nice this time of year...just saying.


That's what I was thinking. Have they paid off the Stade Olympique yet?
 
3 days ago  

JustLookin: I grant you there's not a ton to do in walking distance from the park, but your depiction of the danger is about 30 years tardy.


The ballpark will be in Ybor City.  Lots to do.
But yeah, the area between the Amelie Arena and those parking lots and this new ballpark location is all condos and the cruise port now.  It's not a dangerous area.
 
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