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(Sports Illustrated)   Tampa Bay Rays unveil new stadium plans. Billionaire owner generously offers to chip in 15% of the $900 million projected cost. Whattaguy   ( si.com) divider line
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2018-07-11 03:34:27 PM  
Morons will once again get farked by the big buck boys.
 
2018-07-11 04:20:38 PM  
Found their new stadium.

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Sadly they won't be able to sell this one out either.
 
2018-07-11 04:25:32 PM  

OkieDookie: Found their new stadium.

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Sadly they won't be able to sell this one out either.


15% of $900M is $135M. This years' total attendance so far is 618,017. So he's going to pay $218.44 for every fan that shows up.
 
2018-07-11 04:26:21 PM  
just for reference, here's where the numbers came from

https://www.baseball-reference.com/le​a​gues/MLB/2018-misc.shtml
 
2018-07-11 04:27:48 PM  
"It's not just a ballpark, it's a community asset."

That the community doesn't own, but pays for.  More of a liability, but that's just a number on the other side of the ledger.  And ledgers always balance, so it's really the same thing. You're welcome, Tampa.
 
2018-07-11 04:32:06 PM  
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These plutocratic assholes need a shave from the National Razor.
 
2018-07-11 04:32:13 PM  
But the Marlins got such a nice deal! We want it too!
 
2018-07-11 04:43:10 PM  
But as Rays team president Brian Auld told reporters at Tuesday's event when asked about who would be on the hook for that, "We don't have those answers yet."

You have the answer. You're just not willing to utter it in public.
 
2018-07-11 04:44:43 PM  

SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...


...he posted from the Murder Capital of America.
 
2018-07-11 04:55:05 PM  

SkylineRecords: FLMountainMan: SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...

...he posted from the Murder Capital of America.

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He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?


It's where Obama is from.


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2018-07-11 04:57:52 PM  

SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?


Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.
 
2018-07-11 04:59:29 PM  

Riothamus: SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?

Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.


You're lucky. My pants-cleaning bill is 35% of my net income.
 
2018-07-11 05:04:06 PM  
There is no actual plan to build this stadium. This is just a proposal by Stu so when he moves the team to Portland or whatever idiot city wants to pay public funds for a stadium he can say "Well I tried..."

There is absolutely no parking in that area and the streets can't handle gameday traffic. But there is up to 20,000 parking spots in a 20 minute walk you say? Yeah, go ahead and walk for a mile in East Tampa in a afternoon summer day in Florida. Grandpa Earl will totally be happy walking in either hot and humid or a torrential downpour, most likely both in the same 20 minute walk. Not to mention the lovely neighborhoods you would have to walk through.
 
2018-07-11 05:05:57 PM  

Sniveling Coward: Riothamus: SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?

Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.

You're lucky. My pants-cleaning bill is 35% of my net income.


Username checks out ;)
 
2018-07-11 05:08:40 PM  

Boba Fettucini: There is no actual plan to build this stadium. This is just a proposal by Stu so when he moves the team to Portland or whatever idiot city wants to pay public funds for a stadium he can say "Well I tried..."

There is absolutely no parking in that area and the streets can't handle gameday traffic. But there is up to 20,000 parking spots in a 20 minute walk you say? Yeah, go ahead and walk for a mile in East Tampa in a afternoon summer day in Florida. Grandpa Earl will totally be happy walking in either hot and humid or a torrential downpour, most likely both in the same 20 minute walk. Not to mention the lovely neighborhoods you would have to walk through.


Its a foot in the door for the lucrative transit plans their fellow well-connected millionaires are also pushing for.
 
2018-07-11 05:15:38 PM  

FLMountainMan: SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...

...he posted from the Murder Capital of America.


Hillary Clinton's pizzaria's?
 
2018-07-11 05:17:19 PM  
And let me guess he wants all the money off of parking, concessions and anything else he can think of while the city pays for the upkeep and utilities? Is he pulling the "Local area will make $XXXXX on every game day" line yet?
 
2018-07-11 05:27:06 PM  
This isn't going to work:
1) In the last 15 years to price of a new stadium has soared from $175 million to over $1 billion
2) Tampa is actually a pretty small city. It ranks just ahead of Bakerfield, CA and Aurora, CO
3) Tampa taxpayers are still paying for the fleecing by the Glazer family to keep the Bucs
4) After the Marlins stadium debacle the state isn't going to help

So... huge stadium expense, small tax base, existing taxes going to pay for another stadium, and no outside support. Good luck!
 
2018-07-11 05:41:19 PM  
At this point, do we have any valid reasons to not nationalize major league sports leagues?

It's not like Holy Free Market Principles (praise be upon them!) apply to taxpayer-funded entities that have been granted exclusive antitrust exemptions.
 
2018-07-11 05:49:37 PM  

iamskibibitz: 2) Tampa is actually a pretty small city. It ranks just ahead of Bakerfield, CA and Aurora, CO


The Metropolitan Statistical Area is the 18th largest, ahead of Denver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of​_​metropolitan_statistical_areas
 
2018-07-11 05:57:35 PM  
Offer State license plates with the team logo on it. The team gets a portion of the funds from those plates and is on the hook for anything left over.
 
2018-07-11 06:07:52 PM  
Montreal is nice this time of year...just saying.
 
2018-07-11 06:09:13 PM  
So, women's teams will get half the time slots in it?   No?... Then no woman should be required to  'donate' her taxes for it.

/ imagine the outcry if blacks/latinos/Asians etc were required to pay taxes toward a facility that didn't allow them on the field?
 
2018-07-11 07:14:01 PM  
No one ever became a billionaire by spending their own money
 
2018-07-11 07:36:17 PM  

Sniveling Coward: Riothamus: SkylineRecords: He posted from the state so f*cked up that we have to tag it's news articles separately.

What did Chicago ever do to you, besides make your state look even sh*ttier by comparison?

Huh. I didn't realize Kansas City was so murderous.

Then again I don't wake up in pants-shiatting fear every day.

You're lucky. My pants-cleaning bill is 35% of my net income.


Username checks out.
Sorry, had to.
 
2018-07-11 07:54:40 PM  

Boba Fettucini: There is no actual plan to build this stadium. This is just a proposal by Stu so when he moves the team to Portland or whatever idiot city wants to pay public funds for a stadium he can say "Well I tried..."

There is absolutely no parking in that area and the streets can't handle gameday traffic. But there is up to 20,000 parking spots in a 20 minute walk you say? Yeah, go ahead and walk for a mile in East Tampa in a afternoon summer day in Florida. Grandpa Earl will totally be happy walking in either hot and humid or a torrential downpour, most likely both in the same 20 minute walk. Not to mention the lovely neighborhoods you would have to walk through.


Try the neighborhood New Comiskey was built in. I can guarantee you *nobody* stays there any longer than it takes to get out of the armed-security-patrolled parking lot after a game.
 
2018-07-11 08:06:39 PM  
If he is only going to put up 15%, he only gets a 15% share of the ownership of the stadium, and only gets 15% of the revenue from concessions and parking, until the costs of constructing the stadium are paid. The public entities that fund the stadium get the other 85% to share amongst themselves, based on the % of the money spent by each public entity towards the new stadium, again until the costs of constructing the stadium are paid. After that, Asshole Sportsball Team Owner can have the stadium all to himself (and if he tries to bail from the stadium before it is paid for, he is immediately on the hook for the full remaining costs of building the stadium, even if he declares bankruptcy, which is why the public entities make sure that their share of the costs of building the stadium are declared as a fully-secured loan, with the assets of the team and the owner being declared as the security for the loan). Not that any sportsball owner would allow such a thing, unless they were forced into it.
 
2018-07-11 08:41:56 PM  

SkylineRecords: "A new ballpark would bring a worldwide attraction to Tampa Bay, further enhancing our reputation as one of America's top places to live," gushed a recent letter to the Tampa Bay Times authored by two members of Rays 2020, a local advocacy group.


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Yeah, and maybe with a little PR, Salt Lake City will become the new Heartland of Hip Hop...


I live in Tampa.  And let me tell you something.  This places rocks.  I've lived in a number of places before I settled down here, and this city offers the best quality of life by far.  So please keep it that way, and tell everybody else it sucks.  Yeah, that's it.  Tampa is terrible.  Don't move here.
 
2018-07-11 08:53:19 PM  

iron_city_ap: Offer State license plates with the team logo on it. The team gets a portion of the funds from those plates and is on the hook for anything left over.


They already have those.  Every team and college in the state has a specialty license plate you can buy, and the extra money goes to youth sports charities.

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2018-07-11 11:36:05 PM  

ClavellBCMI: Boba Fettucini: There is no actual plan to build this stadium. This is just a proposal by Stu so when he moves the team to Portland or whatever idiot city wants to pay public funds for a stadium he can say "Well I tried..."

There is absolutely no parking in that area and the streets can't handle gameday traffic. But there is up to 20,000 parking spots in a 20 minute walk you say? Yeah, go ahead and walk for a mile in East Tampa in a afternoon summer day in Florida. Grandpa Earl will totally be happy walking in either hot and humid or a torrential downpour, most likely both in the same 20 minute walk. Not to mention the lovely neighborhoods you would have to walk through.

Try the neighborhood New Comiskey was built in. I can guarantee you *nobody* stays there any longer than it takes to get out of the armed-security-patrolled parking lot after a game.


Don't be such a pants-pissing Nancy. And try not to be so full of shiat. I grant you there's not a ton to do in walking distance from the park, but your depiction of the danger is about 30 years tardy.
 
2018-07-12 02:33:50 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Montreal is nice this time of year...just saying.


That's what I was thinking. Have they paid off the Stade Olympique yet?
 
2018-07-12 11:23:14 AM  

JustLookin: I grant you there's not a ton to do in walking distance from the park, but your depiction of the danger is about 30 years tardy.


The ballpark will be in Ybor City.  Lots to do.
But yeah, the area between the Amelie Arena and those parking lots and this new ballpark location is all condos and the cruise port now.  It's not a dangerous area.
 
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