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2018-07-11 12:46:06 PM  
Take his children away, then.
 
2018-07-11 01:20:03 PM  

She comes in colors everywhere: Take his children away, then.


Don't be ridiculous, we don't do that to white people.

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Uh oh....
 
2018-07-11 01:26:51 PM  
As attacks go, this one is pretty laughable.
 
2018-07-11 01:27:56 PM  
Keep him there.
 
2018-07-11 01:29:53 PM  
Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.
 
2018-07-11 01:46:21 PM  

edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.


De Blasio ain't no Murkin name.
 
2018-07-11 01:47:27 PM  

vudukungfu: edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

De Blasio ain't no Murkin name.


He's the founder of MS-13.
 
2018-07-11 02:36:03 PM  
Some people New Yorkers can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

New Yorkers traditionally feud with their mayors from the day they start to the day they leave. Since there are so many of us it constantly gets attention. The only time I saw that not happen was post 9-11.

On another note, former mayors are generally treated decently. People generally liked Giuliani and Trump in the '00s before Trump got into politics & Rudy went from moderate, pit-bull Republican to what ever he is now. Today I think Rudy would get protested like crazy. He and Trump will probably never be able to enjoy a truly public meal in the city ever again.
 
2018-07-11 03:05:10 PM  

Diogenes: vudukungfu: edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

De Blasio ain't no Murkin name.

He's the founder of MS-13.


Sooner or later a MS-13 relative is going to get caught in the DHS dragnet by ICE.
That will not end well.
They have skills.
 
2018-07-11 04:23:22 PM  
Did he jump, dig, climb or swim?  Sounds like they opened the gate for him.
 
2018-07-11 04:24:00 PM  
It's alright, it looks like the NY Governor is doing De Blasio's job anyway.
 
2018-07-11 04:26:02 PM  
So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.
 
2018-07-11 04:26:05 PM  

vudukungfu: Diogenes: vudukungfu: edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

De Blasio ain't no Murkin name.

He's the founder of MS-13.

Sooner or later a MS-13 relative is going to get caught in the DHS dragnet by ICE.
That will not end well.
They have skills.


We're creating an all new set of terrorists.
 
2018-07-11 04:29:02 PM  

edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.


Case in point:

BalugaJoe: Keep him there.

 
2018-07-11 04:29:23 PM  
Who the fark is "border protection"?

CBP, one would assume, or border patrol?

But there is an important difference there beauracratically, particularly given the mayor's claim that he did it under supervision of a supervisor, which means he was entering with an inspection.

Who at "border protection" claimed this?

shiat article is shiat. When a government agency makes a claim you quote a spokesman.

/Post invalid if I just misread the whole article. I'm distracted :)
 
2018-07-11 04:29:52 PM  

Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.


Cross with the blessing of Trump and ICE, otherwise illegal.
 
2018-07-11 04:30:06 PM  

Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.


Because you could pick up a big ol shipment of whatever; and hanglide back to your home, bypassing customs and border patrol.
 
2018-07-11 04:32:04 PM  

BalugaJoe: Keep him there.


Right here, ladies and germs.  The difference between 'witty' and 'whitey'.
 
2018-07-11 04:37:01 PM  

Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.


If you enter through a port you are inspected. Entry without proper inspection is the law being broken.

If you are with a freaking USBP supervisor, you are obviously not avoiding inspection.

Side note, if you lie at a port of entry or even if CBP fails to properly inspect you and catch you, an EWI charge may apply. The agent farking up was improperly inspecting you.
 
2018-07-11 04:38:20 PM  
I'm sure a wall would help with this.
 
2018-07-11 04:39:33 PM  

damageddude: Some people New Yorkers can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

New Yorkers traditionally feud with their mayors from the day they start to the day they leave. Since there are so many of us it constantly gets attention. The only time I saw that not happen was post 9-11.

On another note, former mayors are generally treated decently. People generally liked Giuliani and Trump in the '00s before Trump got into politics & Rudy went from moderate, pit-bull Republican to what ever he is now. Today I think Rudy would get protested like crazy. He and Trump will probably never be able to enjoy a truly public meal in the city ever again.


Man, my aunt was latched onto Giuliani from day one. She's so old that she drove into Jersey from New City every time she needed gas, because she never learned how to pump her own. She was so excited about Giuliani "cleaning up the city."

I am nice to her now because she's blind and lonely and so very scared of her own approaching death.
 
2018-07-11 04:40:27 PM  
New York's border with Mexico is a lawless place. I'm surprised he got out of it alive.
 
2018-07-11 04:40:51 PM  
"The mayor crossed the border with the direct approval and under the supervision of the border patrol supervisor at this port of entry," said De Blasio spokesman Eric Phillips "Any suggestion otherwise is a flat-out lie and an obvious attempt by someone to attack the Mayor because of his advocacy for families being ripped apart at the border by the Trump Administration."

So much for the mayor's position. Now let's hear from Mr. B. Protection. Mr. Protection? Hello? Paging Mr. Border Protection.
 
2018-07-11 04:41:54 PM  

bluenovaman: vudukungfu: Diogenes: vudukungfu: edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

De Blasio ain't no Murkin name.

He's the founder of MS-13.

Sooner or later a MS-13 relative is going to get caught in the DHS dragnet by ICE.
That will not end well.
They have skills.

We're creating an all new set of terrorists.


Jimmy Carter failed to create a new set of terrorists.  I'm fairly sure the US government has been otherwise creating them since the Articles of Confederation.
/actually I'm sure Jimmy created plenty of domestic terrorists
//all that reading the Gospels and following that dirty hippie rabbi
///they'll never forgive that
 
2018-07-11 04:44:52 PM  

bluenovaman: vudukungfu: Diogenes: vudukungfu: edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

De Blasio ain't no Murkin name.

He's the founder of MS-13.

Sooner or later a MS-13 relative is going to get caught in the DHS dragnet by ICE.
That will not end well.
They have skills.

We're creating an all new set of terrorists.


At least we're not alienating highly-trained military personnel with this racist bullshiat. That could get bad for us.

Wait, are you farking kidding me?!?
 
2018-07-11 04:46:29 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: "The mayor crossed the border with the direct approval and under the supervision of the border patrol supervisor at this port of entry," said De Blasio spokesman Eric Phillips "Any suggestion otherwise is a flat-out lie and an obvious attempt by someone to attack the Mayor because of his advocacy for families being ripped apart at the border by the Trump Administration."

So much for the mayor's position. Now let's hear from Mr. B. Protection. Mr. Protection? Hello? Paging Mr. Border Protection.


Oh, and the ports are run by customs. El Paso has customs supervisors and a port director. The phrase "the BP supervisor at the poe" is rubbish.

I expect this level of ignorance from Joe "border control?" Blow, not a journalist, and not the mayoral staff directly interacting with said supervisor.

Sloppy work all around. If any of the paperwork I've done in government service had such glaring lack of specifity I'd be fired.
 
2018-07-11 04:48:08 PM  

Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.


It's a misdemeanor to cross the border without going through customs and immigration / without the approval of a CPB agent. This is nominally what the concentration camps are being used for at the moment - incarceration without bail of thousands of people accused of misdemeanor offenses.

According to his office he was accompanied and supervised by a CPB agent during all this so it sounds like bullshiat to stir up a distraction.
 
2018-07-11 04:48:20 PM  

vudukungfu: Diogenes: vudukungfu: edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

De Blasio ain't no Murkin name.

He's the founder of MS-13.

Sooner or later a MS-13 relative is going to get caught in the DHS dragnet by ICE.
That will not end well.
They have skills.


Word! I know three of them that can crochet
 
2018-07-11 04:49:59 PM  

Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.


Are you trying to peek into one of the Kiddy Koncentration Kamps? No? Then you're probably okay. Those Kamps have to be worse than we can even imagine.
 
2018-07-11 04:50:11 PM  
I almost wish he was detained.  He's important enough to not be really mistreated, and people would listen when he makes a stink about it.
 
2018-07-11 04:50:34 PM  

BalugaJoe: Keep him there.



You first.
 
2018-07-11 04:52:26 PM  
Gosh, I hope he was denied reentry. That can really change a man.

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2018-07-11 05:03:34 PM  

Target Builder: It's a misdemeanor to cross the border without going through customs and immigration / without the approval of a CPB agent.


There are many places along the US/Canada border where you can just drive across - there is no border guard on either side - *BUT* there are signs indicating that you need to report to the nearest staffed crossing. So, crossing in and of itself is legal. (Yes, there is a shiat-ton of electronics watching those tiny backroads). Pretty sure the same rules apply if you cross by fishing boat e.g. on Lake Champlain - just report once you arrive.

There are also towns like Derby Line, VT which straddle the border. Residents cross it multiple times daily without needing to report each and every time. Heck, there is the very famous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell​_​Free_Library_and_Opera_House that straddles the border.
 
2018-07-11 05:09:02 PM  

Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.


Crossing the border outside of designated places is not allowed. Of course if the person in charge of the crossing tells you it is fine and goes with you, pretty sure you can't be charged with anything.
 
2018-07-11 05:21:47 PM  
Oh hey, El Paso, I love that song, and it's kinda fitting for this whole farking fiasco.
 
2018-07-11 05:31:25 PM  
Mexico should lock him up until Trump calls their president to release him.
 
2018-07-11 05:42:21 PM  

dywed88: Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.

Crossing the border outside of designated places is not allowed. Of course if the person in charge of the crossing tells you it is fine and goes with you, pretty sure you can't be charged with anything.


Of course, what it boils down to is "were you observed by the border agents?" Because if you were then they can do a lot of stuff to you.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2​0​18/06/25/jogger-who-accidentally-cross​ed-us-border-serves-as-warning-for-can​adians-expert-says.html
 
2018-07-11 05:47:59 PM  
You know what I want to hear from the "strong border" crowd before I entertain any of the other shiat they're currently talking about and doing?

An actual justification for locking down the border in the first place.
 
2018-07-11 05:57:49 PM  

skozlaw: You know what I want to hear from the "strong border" crowd before I entertain any of the other shiat they're currently talking about and doing?

An actual justification for locking down the border in the first place.


Well, they say that murderers and rapists and cutthroats are crossing the border, and taking their jobs.
Which makes me wonder - WTF do they do for a living, anyway?
 
2018-07-11 06:01:10 PM  
He should be allowed to cross the border at any time for any reason, and it's racist to say otherwise.
 
2018-07-11 06:35:29 PM  

Public Call Box: dywed88: Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.

Crossing the border outside of designated places is not allowed. Of course if the person in charge of the crossing tells you it is fine and goes with you, pretty sure you can't be charged with anything.

Of course, what it boils down to is "were you observed by the border agents?" Because if you were then they can do a lot of stuff to you.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/20​18/06/25/jogger-who-accidentally-cross​ed-us-border-serves-as-warning-for-can​adians-expert-says.html


I recall the fark thread.

The idea that people who get caught crossing can just claim jogging, miles from the entry point, would be, if one cared about immigration enforcement, patently absurd.

That was certainly an example of reprehensible beauracracy after the initial detainment, but asking the agents on the ground to take the crosser's word for it and escort them back is silly. Border patrol agents, whatever our level of enforcement, should not have that level of personal officer discretion imo. That provides too much cover for corruption, bribery, laziness, etc.

That is how the old border patrol operated, privately removing people to save time on paperwork, and it wasn't some improvement over our current situation.

Obviously after determining she was who she said she was and that she most likely wasn't attempting illegal entry they should have taken her back and wished her a nice day.
 
2018-07-11 06:39:26 PM  

jso2897: skozlaw: You know what I want to hear from the "strong border" crowd before I entertain any of the other shiat they're currently talking about and doing?

An actual justification for locking down the border in the first place.

Well, they say that murderers and rapists and cutthroats are crossing the border, and taking their jobs.
Which makes me wonder - WTF do they do for a living, anyway?


What's it to you?
 
2018-07-11 06:49:51 PM  

Smackledorfer: Public Call Box: dywed88: Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.

Crossing the border outside of designated places is not allowed. Of course if the person in charge of the crossing tells you it is fine and goes with you, pretty sure you can't be charged with anything.

Of course, what it boils down to is "were you observed by the border agents?" Because if you were then they can do a lot of stuff to you.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/20​18/06/25/jogger-who-accidentally-cross​ed-us-border-serves-as-warning-for-can​adians-expert-says.html

I recall the fark thread.

The idea that people who get caught crossing can just claim jogging, miles from the entry point, would be, if one cared about immigration enforcement, patently absurd.

That was certainly an example of reprehensible beauracracy after the initial detainment, but asking the agents on the ground to take the crosser's word for it and escort them back is silly. Border patrol agents, whatever our level of enforcement, should not have that level of personal officer discretion imo. That provides too much cover for corruption, bribery, laziness, etc.

That is how the old border patrol operated, privately removing people to save time on paperwork, and it wasn't some improvement over our current situation.

Obviously after determining she was who she said she was and that she most likely wasn't attempting illegal entry they should have taken her back and wished her a nice day.


I have to disagree. If there is no reason to be suspicious I am all for escorting the person back to the border and sending them on their way. Not reason to waste time and money making a big fuss over things.
 
2018-07-11 06:52:43 PM  

BaleenMoe: I'm sure a wall would help with this.


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It couldn't hurt.
 
2018-07-11 06:53:07 PM  

dywed88: Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.

Crossing the border outside of designated places is not allowed. Of course if the person in charge of the crossing tells you it is fine and goes with you, pretty sure you can't be charged with anything.


Did Mexico allow entry or should we start extradition?
 
2018-07-11 06:55:24 PM  

sunderland56: Target Builder: It's a misdemeanor to cross the border without going through customs and immigration / without the approval of a CPB agent.

There are many places along the US/Canada border where you can just drive across - there is no border guard on either side - *BUT* there are signs indicating that you need to report to the nearest staffed crossing. So, crossing in and of itself is legal. (Yes, there is a shiat-ton of electronics watching those tiny backroads). Pretty sure the same rules apply if you cross by fishing boat e.g. on Lake Champlain - just report once you arrive.

There are also towns like Derby Line, VT which straddle the border. Residents cross it multiple times daily without needing to report each and every time. Heck, there is the very famous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_​Free_Library_and_Opera_House that straddles the border.


(csb) Mrs. Eel and I crossed from Quebec into New Hampshire at the tiny Pittsburg/Chartierville crossing in 1999. The one guy at the customs hut (it's bigger now) may have been asleep. (/csb)
 
2018-07-11 07:01:27 PM  

dywed88: Smackledorfer: Public Call Box: dywed88: Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.

Crossing the border outside of designated places is not allowed. Of course if the person in charge of the crossing tells you it is fine and goes with you, pretty sure you can't be charged with anything.

Of course, what it boils down to is "were you observed by the border agents?" Because if you were then they can do a lot of stuff to you.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/20​18/06/25/jogger-who-accidentally-cross​ed-us-border-serves-as-warning-for-can​adians-expert-says.html

I recall the fark thread.

The idea that people who get caught crossing can just claim jogging, miles from the entry point, would be, if one cared about immigration enforcement, patently absurd.

That was certainly an example of reprehensible beauracracy after the initial detainment, but asking the agents on the ground to take the crosser's word for it and escort them back is silly. Border patrol agents, whatever our level of enforcement, should not have that level of personal officer discretion imo. That provides too much cover for corruption, bribery, laziness, etc.

That is how the old border patrol operated, privately removing people to save time on paperwork, and it wasn't some improvement over our current situation.

Obviously after determining she was who she said she was and that she most likely wasn't attempting illegal entry they should have taken her back and wished her a nice day.

I have to disagree. If there is no reason to be suspicious I am all for escorting the person back to the border and sending them on their way. Not reason to waste time and money making a big fuss over things.


Except Canada has laws too, and our border agents don't get to smuggle people into Canada without proper inspection.

A US government agent cannot determine who is allowed to enter Canada, and assist them in entering between ports of entry without inspection. Indeed, iirc, the fark link to that article read as though Canada was the major reason for the hold up. The woman in question wasn't even Canadian .
 
2018-07-11 07:09:14 PM  

Smackledorfer: dywed88: Smackledorfer: Public Call Box: dywed88: Khryswhy: So I'm curious how his crossing into the US was illegal.
Is it only legal to come back into the country that you're a citizen of if you do it in a designated spot?
What if I hang glided over the border?
I was in Canada or Mexico and just glided across the border into the US, onto say, property I own.
Is that illegal?
If it is, why is it?

/Not being snarky
// Hoping a real lawyer type person could answer
/// Or a Fark lawyer if that's all I can find.

Crossing the border outside of designated places is not allowed. Of course if the person in charge of the crossing tells you it is fine and goes with you, pretty sure you can't be charged with anything.

Of course, what it boils down to is "were you observed by the border agents?" Because if you were then they can do a lot of stuff to you.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/20​18/06/25/jogger-who-accidentally-cross​ed-us-border-serves-as-warning-for-can​adians-expert-says.html

I recall the fark thread.

The idea that people who get caught crossing can just claim jogging, miles from the entry point, would be, if one cared about immigration enforcement, patently absurd.

That was certainly an example of reprehensible beauracracy after the initial detainment, but asking the agents on the ground to take the crosser's word for it and escort them back is silly. Border patrol agents, whatever our level of enforcement, should not have that level of personal officer discretion imo. That provides too much cover for corruption, bribery, laziness, etc.

That is how the old border patrol operated, privately removing people to save time on paperwork, and it wasn't some improvement over our current situation.

Obviously after determining she was who she said she was and that she most likely wasn't attempting illegal entry they should have taken her back and wished her a nice day.

I have to disagree. If there is no reason to be suspicious I am all for escorting the person back to the border and sending them on their way. Not reason to waste time and money making a big fuss over things.

Except Canada has laws too, and our border agents don't get to smuggle people into Canada without proper inspection.

A US government agent cannot determine who is allowed to enter Canada, and assist them in entering between ports of entry without inspection. Indeed, iirc, the fark link to that article read as though Canada was the major reason for the hold up. The woman in question wasn't even Canadian .


Sure, when I said to escort her back to the border it should be at a manned crossing.

She could call someone to meet her with her passport if need be.
 
2018-07-11 10:18:39 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: bluenovaman: vudukungfu: Diogenes: vudukungfu: edmo: Some people can't wait to start exiling citizens who disagree with them.

De Blasio ain't no Murkin name.

He's the founder of MS-13.

Sooner or later a MS-13 relative is going to get caught in the DHS dragnet by ICE.
That will not end well.
They have skills.

We're creating an all new set of terrorists.

Jimmy Carter failed to create a new set of terrorists.  I'm fairly sure the US government has been otherwise creating them since the Articles of Confederation.
/actually I'm sure Jimmy created plenty of domestic terrorists
//all that reading the Gospels and following that dirty hippie rabbi
///they'll never forgive that


The more one learns about Carter, the clearer it becomes he was one of, if not the most, moral men to ever hold the position.

And the religious right despised him for it.
 
2018-07-12 02:36:14 AM  

Fukuzawa: The more one learns about Carter, the clearer it becomes he was one of, if not the most, moral men to ever hold the position.

And the religious right despised him for it.


Your grasp of history is...tenuous.

It was certainly not the religious right who challenged him in the 1980 primaries. That was Ted Kennedy, who was on his way to cleaning Carter's clock until 1) the Iran hostage crisis happened and 2) eventually even Democrats realized Kennedy was still the same womanizing drunk he was at Chappaquiddick.

History whitewashes the shiat out of Carter's mistakes, and I'm not even talking about Iran. Please explain why this deeply moral man would eagerly hit his knees for one of the most evil men ever to walk the continent of Africa - and yes, our intelligence knew what Mugabe was about even then.

Carter sat on his hands while we backed the genocidal Pol Pot via China as if Ford and Kissinger had never left office. That's straight from Carter's national security adviser.

You would think after 30+ years somebody so publicly humble and pious would figure out that foreign policy is not his strong suit, and that he had a distinct tendency not only to pick the absolute worst possible option in a given situation, but then to publicly slobber all over themselves praising the bungle.

You would be wrong.
 
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