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2018-07-11 10:49:53 AM  
...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?
 
2018-07-11 10:51:38 AM  

Mad Scientist: ...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?


Those are perfectly cromulent names.
 
2018-07-11 10:52:06 AM  
Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.
 
2018-07-11 10:53:57 AM  

Mad Scientist: ...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?


Stormy Daniels?  Buck Sexton?  Krystal Ball?  It's porn stars all the way down!  Where does S.E. Cupp fit into all of this?
 
2018-07-11 10:54:49 AM  

bdub77: Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.


Frankly I'm a little shocked that Mickey's people are using words like "lying" that even the New York Times won't apply to what Trump says.
 
2018-07-11 10:57:02 AM  
Big deal.   I'll get excited when Cohen actually flips and sings the song of my people.
 
2018-07-11 11:03:54 AM  
The "I" word is thrown around here every day.  That doesn't mean it will happen.  I've tempered my feelings about Trump's tenure in the White House.  Get people to vote in 2020.  That's the only way to get him out.
 
2018-07-11 11:09:04 AM  
I heard the l word was a pretty good show, but I still haven't seen it.
 
2018-07-11 11:13:03 AM  
This is all rather... public. 

This is either battlefield prep, or a campaign to get Trump to pony up a pardon. This is not going to end well for any of them.
 
2018-07-11 11:18:15 AM  

the_innkeeper: This is all rather... public. 

This is either battlefield prep, or a campaign to get Trump to pony up a pardon. This is not going to end well for any of them.


It doesn't make sense for Cohen to ask for a pardon because there will obviously be state-level charges at some point.  I try to keep in mind that these are gutless people who use passive-aggressive douchebaggery to "send a message" that they really, REALLY don't want to have to back up with a fight.  This is like a mating ritual for them, peacock and strut around a bit while making yourself look big to scare off the opponent.  Basically Cohen is doing this:

pbs.twimg.comView Full Size


In the end he's going to flip because he's too scared to go to prison because of - and I paraphrase here what his lawyer said - the racial aspect and he doesn't want to end up as someone's wife.  He's too straight and white to go to prison, let alone be locked away from his family for pretty much the rest of his life.
 
2018-07-11 11:46:58 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: the_innkeeper: This is all rather... public. 

This is either battlefield prep, or a campaign to get Trump to pony up a pardon. This is not going to end well for any of them.

It doesn't make sense for Cohen to ask for a pardon because there will obviously be state-level charges at some point.  I try to keep in mind that these are gutless people who use passive-aggressive douchebaggery to "send a message" that they really, REALLY don't want to have to back up with a fight.  This is like a mating ritual for them, peacock and strut around a bit while making yourself look big to scare off the opponent.  Basically Cohen is doing this:

[pbs.twimg.com image 599x337]

In the end he's going to flip because he's too scared to go to prison because of - and I paraphrase here what his lawyer said - the racial aspect and he doesn't want to end up as someone's wife.  He's too straight and white to go to prison, let alone be locked away from his family for pretty much the rest of his life.


Is this an inherent difference between Cohen and others such as Flynn, Gates and Flippopotamous? cohen is used to being a loudmouth, so his lawer is now as well?
 
2018-07-11 11:57:36 AM  

the_innkeeper: AdmirableSnackbar: the_innkeeper: This is all rather... public. 

This is either battlefield prep, or a campaign to get Trump to pony up a pardon. This is not going to end well for any of them.

It doesn't make sense for Cohen to ask for a pardon because there will obviously be state-level charges at some point.  I try to keep in mind that these are gutless people who use passive-aggressive douchebaggery to "send a message" that they really, REALLY don't want to have to back up with a fight.  This is like a mating ritual for them, peacock and strut around a bit while making yourself look big to scare off the opponent.  Basically Cohen is doing this:

[pbs.twimg.com image 599x337]

In the end he's going to flip because he's too scared to go to prison because of - and I paraphrase here what his lawyer said - the racial aspect and he doesn't want to end up as someone's wife.  He's too straight and white to go to prison, let alone be locked away from his family for pretty much the rest of his life.

Is this an inherent difference between Cohen and others such as Flynn, Gates and Flippopotamous? cohen is used to being a loudmouth, so his lawer is now as well?


Absolutely there's a difference.  Flynn, Gates, Papadopoulos, etc. wanted to be respectable and got greedy but have always been in it for themselves, so when Mueller came calling and they saw there was no other way out they flipped.

Cohen is a much simpler creature, a true douchebag's douchebag just like Trump.  He's a coward who is used to being under Trump's protection where he's been essentially his entire life, coddled and comfortable so long as he does da boss' bidding.  He's like Theon Greyjoy/Reek in how he is used to thinking he's king shiat, untouchable from the non-royal people, and was willing to do horrible things to please his master but now he's also scared to defy him out of pure fear of reprisal even while he has no other realistic option.
 
2018-07-11 12:26:47 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: The "I" word is thrown around here every day.  That doesn't mean it will happen.  I've tempered my feelings about Trump's tenure in the White House.  Get people to vote in 2020.  That's the only way to get him out.


It's the best way, anyway. Trump should be held accountable and marched out of the Oval Office in handcuffs tomorrow, but that would give his idiot brigade a martyr that they'd NEVER shut up about.

Far better for him to lose gloriously with <25% of the popular vote and 2 states in the EC. Then the rejection of him and his "movement" would be undeniable.

/Make it happen: GET OUT AND VOTE
 
2018-07-11 12:38:45 PM  
"labia"?
 
2018-07-11 12:38:49 PM  

markie_farkie: raerae1980: Big deal.   I'll get excited when Cohen actually flips and sings the song of my people.

[i.pinimg.com image 500x500]

This one?


Couldn't get through.  All of the telephone lines were down.  And anyway, look at little sister over there.
 
2018-07-11 12:40:02 PM  
Maybe it would be easier to make a list of things that Trump does that AREN'T impeachable offenses:

1. Eating a cheeseburger
 
2018-07-11 12:43:17 PM  
Krystal Ball...?...I think I'll stop reading.
 
2018-07-11 12:43:50 PM  

iheartscotch: Maybe it would be easier to make a list of things that Trump does that AREN'T impeachable offenses:

1. Eating a cheeseburger


depends....did he use mustard?
 
2018-07-11 12:44:57 PM  

iheartscotch: Maybe it would be easier to make a list of things that Trump does that AREN'T impeachable offenses:

1. Eating a cheeseburger


Maybe, but have you seen the way he eats pizza?!?
i2-prod.mirror.co.ukView Full Size
 
2018-07-11 12:45:28 PM  

raerae1980: Big deal.   I'll get excited when Cohen actually flips and sings the song of my people.


I'm not sure the soothing sounds of Niagra Falls would convince a jury.
 
2018-07-11 12:45:32 PM  

iheartscotch: Maybe it would be easier to make a list of things that Trump does that AREN'T impeachable offenses:

1. Eating a cheeseburger


Unless he uses that fancy mustard.
 
2018-07-11 12:45:45 PM  
AdmirableSnackbar: ... He's like Theon Greyjoy/Reek in how he is used to thinking he's king shiat, untouchable from the non-royal people, and was willing to do horrible things to please his master but now he's also scared to defy him out of pure fear of reprisal even while he has no other realistic option.

Cohen = Reek. I like that one.  Good call.
 
2018-07-11 12:47:10 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: the_innkeeper: This is all rather... public. 

This is either battlefield prep, or a campaign to get Trump to pony up a pardon. This is not going to end well for any of them.

It doesn't make sense for Cohen to ask for a pardon because there will obviously be state-level charges at some point.  I try to keep in mind that these are gutless people who use passive-aggressive douchebaggery to "send a message" that they really, REALLY don't want to have to back up with a fight.  This is like a mating ritual for them, peacock and strut around a bit while making yourself look big to scare off the opponent.  Basically Cohen is doing this:

[pbs.twimg.com image 599x337]

In the end he's going to flip because he's too scared to go to prison because of - and I paraphrase here what his lawyer said - the racial aspect and he doesn't want to end up as someone's wife.  He's too straight and white to go to prison, let alone be locked away from his family for pretty much the rest of his life.


That is if they let him flip. He can't just go in and say he's flipping. They may not need him after reviewing the tons of documents. I'm guessing this is more likely.
 
2018-07-11 12:49:38 PM  
I don't worry about finding judges, prosecutors and witnesses.

I doubt if we can get an uncorrupted jury. Left or right, it's gonna be jury tampering.
 
2018-07-11 12:51:09 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: The "I" word is thrown around here every day.  That doesn't mean it will happen.  I've tempered my feelings about Trump's tenure in the White House.  Get people to vote in 2020.


No, please vote this November, and Congress will be able to increasingly thwart Trump's bullshiat starting immediately.
 
2018-07-11 12:51:53 PM  
If that doesn't work as an impeachable offense, I guess we can fall back on the lesser crimes, like Treason, Sedition, Graft, Influence Peddling, Sexual Assault...
 
2018-07-11 12:54:07 PM  
"As your lawyer, I'm legally required to give the best defense possible.  FLIP MOTHERfarkER. FLIP! DO YOU FARKING HEAR ME? IF YOU EVER WANT TO SAY DAYLIGHT AGAIN YOU'D BETTER GODDAMN FLIP"
 
2018-07-11 12:56:11 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: bdub77: Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.

Frankly I'm a little shocked that Mickey's people are using words like "lying" that even the New York Times won't apply to what Trump says.


News organizations are generally very reluctant to use the word "lie" because lying requires intent to deceive. If you call someone a liar and they see you for slander or liable you have to prove they intended to deceive, which is vet difficult to do. If you can you can lose and be on the hook for a large civil penalty.
 
2018-07-11 12:56:15 PM  

Mad Scientist: ...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?


The theme music is for "Rising" is "Boom chicka wow wow".
 
2018-07-11 12:56:56 PM  

MrBallou: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: The "I" word is thrown around here every day.  That doesn't mean it will happen.  I've tempered my feelings about Trump's tenure in the White House.  Get people to vote in 2020.  That's the only way to get him out.

It's the best way, anyway. Trump should be held accountable and marched out of the Oval Office in handcuffs tomorrow, but that would give his idiot brigade a martyr that they'd NEVER shut up about.

Far better for him to lose gloriously with <25% of the popular vote and 2 states in the EC. Then the rejection of him and his "movement" would be undeniable.

/Make it happen: GET OUT AND VOTE


You're a huge optimist if you think he leaves that office voluntarily. Or if given another two years of this, there will be any kind of real election.
 
2018-07-11 12:57:01 PM  
"Incontinence?"
 
2018-07-11 12:59:03 PM  

jst3p: AdmirableSnackbar: bdub77: Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.

Frankly I'm a little shocked that Mickey's people are using words like "lying" that even the New York Times won't apply to what Trump says.

News organizations are generally very reluctant to use the word "lie" because lying requires intent to deceive. If you call someone a liar and they see you for slander or liable you have to prove they intended to deceive, which is vet difficult to do. If you can you can lose and be on the hook for a large civil penalty.


Ugh, I REALLY shouldn't post from my phone.
 
2018-07-11 01:03:59 PM  

schrepjm: iheartscotch: Maybe it would be easier to make a list of things that Trump does that AREN'T impeachable offenses:

1. Eating a cheeseburger

Unless he uses that fancy mustard.


I have a feeling that he could have a Croque Madam with bacon, ham and the fanciest spreadin mustard available and nobody would say shiat.
 
2018-07-11 01:04:30 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: The "I" word is thrown around here every day.  That doesn't mean it will happen.  I've tempered my feelings about Trump's tenure in the White House.  Get people to vote in 2020 2018.  That's the only way to get him out.


Fixed that for you.  We need people to vote in every election, not just the Presidential ones.

The rest of your point I agree with wholeheartedly.  A lot of us here like to throw around and engage in a lot of hyperbole and speculation, most of which solidly crosses over into "fever dream" territory.  With the facts on the ground as we know them right now, voting in 2018, 2019, and 2020 is the only way that change is going to happen.  Sure, Mueller's report could drop sooner rather than later or other seismic events could happen, but trying to price that into your calculus over who to vote for and when is a fool's errand.
 
2018-07-11 01:09:08 PM  

Mad Scientist: ...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?


This is reality. We can't all be winners.
 
2018-07-11 01:14:46 PM  

NateAsbestos: Mad Scientist: ...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?

Those are perfectly cromulent names.


On Pronhub, yes they are.
 
2018-07-11 01:17:29 PM  
I suspect Cohen has realized that John Dean was the only person from the Nixon White House to survive Watergate with a modicum of respectability. I think he may decide to be the new John Dean.
 
2018-07-11 01:19:04 PM  

bdub77: Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.


The best words.
 
2018-07-11 01:20:50 PM  

Mad Scientist: ...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?


Max Boot is my favorite...

NAME, Jesus, I don't mean the person...

/Simpsons
 
2018-07-11 01:22:24 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Mad Scientist: ...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?

This is reality. We can't all be winners.


A certain traitor named Reality Winner would like a word with you.
 
2018-07-11 01:24:03 PM  
This is all posturing to get public sentiment on his side.

Here's the story, Mike. Nobody likes you. Flip. Give up everything. Or never see the sun again.

You're no savior or patriot. You're a rat who got caught hiding things for a bigger rat. Stop talking and start singing.
 
2018-07-11 01:28:55 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Mad Scientist: ...on Hill.TV's "Rising" with Buck Sexton and Krystal Ball.

Doesn't anyone have a normal name anymore?

Stormy Daniels?  Buck Sexton?  Krystal Ball?  It's porn stars all the way down!  Where does S.E. Cupp fit into all of this?


No doubt! I started the article and when I got to the names I was confused because it didn't start with "Dear Penthouse, I never thought this would happen to me...". I was looking for additional characters, like Rod Steel, Johnny Deep, Rackel Roxxx, etc...

And I once knew an Elisabeth Cupp, and yes, she was. She couldn't trot or canter on her horse due to... oscillations. Curly haired redhead too...
 
2018-07-11 01:34:46 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: bdub77: Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.

Frankly I'm a little shocked that Mickey's people are using words like "lying" that even the New York Times won't apply to what Trump says.


That says a lot more about the NYT than it does his people. Our media is a farking joke for tiptoeing around this shiat. We elected a Manchurian candidate and they won't even call his incessant lies lies.
 
2018-07-11 01:35:50 PM  

jst3p: AdmirableSnackbar: bdub77: Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.

Frankly I'm a little shocked that Mickey's people are using words like "lying" that even the New York Times won't apply to what Trump says.

News organizations are generally very reluctant to use the word "lie" because lying requires intent to deceive. If you call someone a liar and they see you for slander or liable you have to prove they intended to deceive, which is vet difficult to do. If you can you can lose and be on the hook for a large civil penalty.


Seth Myers calls out Trump on his lies.
 
2018-07-11 01:39:03 PM  

raerae1980: Big deal.   I'll get excited when Cohen actually flips and sings the song of my people.


What's that, "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun"?


/Or maybe, "Moist Vagina"?
//No seriously, it's a Nirvana song I promise
 
2018-07-11 01:40:00 PM  

jst3p: AdmirableSnackbar: bdub77: Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.

Frankly I'm a little shocked that Mickey's people are using words like "lying" that even the New York Times won't apply to what Trump says.

News organizations are generally very reluctant to use the word "lie" because lying requires intent to deceive. If you call someone a liar and they see you for slander or liable you have to prove they intended to deceive, which is vet difficult to do. If you can you can lose and be on the hook for a large civil penalty.


I thought the President was too busy to be bothered with petty things like civil suits.
 
2018-07-11 01:43:21 PM  
Correct me if I am wrong, but threatening potential witnesses against you tends to be frowned upon, especially when already being investigated for obstruction of justice.
 
2018-07-11 01:44:10 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Frankly I'm a little shocked that Mickey's people are using words like "lying" that even the New York Times won't apply to what Trump says.


The NYT is too intimidated by Trump to use the L-word.  Sad.
 
2018-07-11 01:47:21 PM  

Gawdzila: raerae1980: Big deal.   I'll get excited when Cohen actually flips and sings the song of my people.

What's that, "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun"?


/Or maybe, "Moist Vagina"?
//No seriously, it's a Nirvana song I promise


HA!    I know the song ;-P
/crackin' me up here lol
 
2018-07-11 01:47:34 PM  

yakmans_dad: jst3p: AdmirableSnackbar: bdub77: Imbecile? Idiot? Ignoramus? Incompetent? Impotent? Inbred? Insolvent?

There are so many words that start with I.

Frankly I'm a little shocked that Mickey's people are using words like "lying" that even the New York Times won't apply to what Trump says.

News organizations are generally very reluctant to use the word "lie" because lying requires intent to deceive. If you call someone a liar and they see you for slander or liable you have to prove they intended to deceive, which is vet difficult to do. If you can you can lose and be on the hook for a large civil penalty.

Seth Myers calls out Trump on his lies.


His wife's family barely escaped the Holocaust. He gets Trump.
 
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