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(BBC-US)   Israeli probe to land on the Moon in February, take off, and land again. After that: Punching goyim idiots who say there are no stars in Jewish Moon photos because you can't let Buzz Aldrin have all the fun   ( bbc.com) divider line
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2018-07-10 08:16:39 PM  
Jews in Space
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2018-07-10 08:19:44 PM  
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2018-07-10 09:29:35 PM  
"So being 200,000 miles from earth is a good reason not to call your mother, hmm"
 
2018-07-10 11:28:04 PM  

BalugaJoe: [img.fark.net image 425x285]


It would be kinda funny, in a completely dickish way, to remove the US flag and replace it with theirs.

"What are you going to do about it, huh?"
 
2018-07-10 11:34:21 PM  
Headline sucks.

Meanwhile in Arab countries...
 
2018-07-10 11:51:05 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: BalugaJoe: [img.fark.net image 425x285]

It would be kinda funny, in a completely dickish way, to remove the US flag and replace it with theirs.

"What are you going to do about it, huh?"


the us flag is gone man

it's bleached white bynow
 
2018-07-11 12:48:06 AM  

doglover: ArcadianRefugee: BalugaJoe: [img.fark.net image 425x285]

It would be kinda funny, in a completely dickish way, to remove the US flag and replace it with theirs.

"What are you going to do about it, huh?"

the us flag is gone man

it's bleached white bynow


They put the Apollo 11 flag too close to the lander, where got blown down by the ascent engine exhaust.

/Subsequent missions discretely placed their flags farther away.
 
2018-07-11 12:49:50 AM  
Hope they put more than a materials Bay and mystery goo on there. Need an engineer to reset those.
 
2018-07-11 12:53:40 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: BalugaJoe: [img.fark.net image 425x285]

It would be kinda funny, in a completely dickish way, to remove the US flag and replace it with theirs.

"What are you going to do about it, huh?"


The Apollo sites are restricted for their significant historic value.    Nobody is allowed to visit them.
 
2018-07-11 01:27:23 AM  

studebaker hoch: The Apollo sites are restricted for their significant historic value.    Nobody is allowed to visit them.


Obviously. Because otherwise they'd be overrun by  souvenir hunters and selfie-takers.
 
2018-07-11 01:27:24 AM  

studebaker hoch: ArcadianRefugee: BalugaJoe: [img.fark.net image 425x285]

It would be kinda funny, in a completely dickish way, to remove the US flag and replace it with theirs.

"What are you going to do about it, huh?"

The Apollo sites are restricted for their significant historic value.    Nobody is allowed to visit them.


And who enforces this?  Someone from the UN gonna send them a strongly-worded letter?

"Nobody's allowed" to do a lot of things in space until someone does.
 
2018-07-11 01:48:37 AM  
How many angry Palestinian kids will it kill in the process?
 
2018-07-11 01:56:09 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: And who enforces this?  Someone from the UN gonna send them a strongly-worded letter?


Space Force, obviously.
 
2018-07-11 02:16:53 AM  
So, just curious here....

How's the 'no work on the Sabbath' thing going to work out for monitoring/guiding the probe? Are they going to have to outsource one day a week? Just let the computer drive for the day and correct any anomalies on Sunday? Or does that only apply to Orthodox Jews?

/Dad went to Cedars-Sinai for cancer treatment; elevators were shut down on Saturdays for the Sabbath
 
2018-07-11 02:31:30 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: So, just curious here....

How's the 'no work on the Sabbath' thing going to work out for monitoring/guiding the probe? Are they going to have to outsource one day a week? Just let the computer drive for the day and correct any anomalies on Sunday? Or does that only apply to Orthodox Jews?

/Dad went to Cedars-Sinai for cancer treatment; elevators were shut down on Saturdays for the Sabbath


Never heard of the Shabbos Goy?
 
2018-07-11 02:36:22 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: So, just curious here....

How's the 'no work on the Sabbath' thing going to work out for monitoring/guiding the probe? Are they going to have to outsource one day a week? Just let the computer drive for the day and correct any anomalies on Sunday? Or does that only apply to Orthodox Jews?

/Dad went to Cedars-Sinai for cancer treatment; elevators were shut down on Saturdays for the Sabbath


Well, a Jewish day goes from nightfall to nightfall (Shabbat begins on Friday night); a lunar day lasts 29 days, 12 hours and 44 minutes (29.53 days).

So if they go by "probe time" then can go for 14-odd days without worry. Land early enough in the week and they can go nearly 3 months! :-)
 
2018-07-11 07:36:49 AM  

doglover: ArcadianRefugee: BalugaJoe: [img.fark.net image 425x285]

It would be kinda funny, in a completely dickish way, to remove the US flag and replace it with theirs.

"What are you going to do about it, huh?"

the us flag is gone man

it's bleached white bynow


So you're saying the French have a flag on the moon?
 
2018-07-11 08:01:20 AM  

fragMasterFlash: How many angry Palestinian kids will it kill in the process?


The rats done bit my sister Annel,
and Hymie's on the moon.
 
2018-07-11 08:41:56 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: So, just curious here....

How's the 'no work on the Sabbath' thing going to work out for monitoring/guiding the probe? Are they going to have to outsource one day a week? Just let the computer drive for the day and correct any anomalies on Sunday? Or does that only apply to Orthodox Jews?

/Dad went to Cedars-Sinai for cancer treatment; elevators were shut down on Saturdays for the Sabbath


1) On Shabbat, any actions done to save a life or prevent serious injury are OK. For example, "finishing a product" is one of the 39 categories of work prohibited on the day. The way Band-Aids are made, they don't exist as individual adhesive bandages until you peel the plastic off (thus "finishing" the product), but using them on Shabbat is OK - required, even - to prevent even the small possibility of infection. So Mission Control could be full of Chasidim, and they'd be fine working all day Saturday to make sure the crew* stays alive. (There are similar rules about observant soldiers working Shabbat, even in non-"essential" functions, in support of the ones who do work in those areas.)

2) At the hospital, there may have been one or two elevators operating in "Shabbat Mode" where they stop on every floor. I can't imagine they'd shut off EVERY elevator, thus inconveniencing even the non-Jews at the hospital. They do "Shabbat Mode" at hotels in Israel too.

* if it's an unmanned mission, this exception obviously does not apply
 
2018-07-11 09:49:21 AM  
Could Israel have a manned spacecraft considered am eruv so the astronauts (would that be אסטרונאוטים?) could work on the Sabbath? From what I recall Orthodox Jews cannot move between domiciles on the Sabbath. If they had a setup like the Apollo missions the crew capsule and the lunar lander might be considered separate living domains. In that case they couldn't move between them and transfer equipment on the Sabbath.

Also, how is the Shabbat calculated since it is supposed to start at sundown on Friday? Obviously when you are in orbit sundown comes pretty fast and when you are traveling between the Earth and moon there is no "sundown". Would they base it on wherever mission control is?
 
2018-07-11 10:13:44 AM  

Slypork: Could Israel have a manned spacecraft considered am eruv so the astronauts (would that be אסטרונאוטים?) could work on the Sabbath? From what I recall Orthodox Jews cannot move between domiciles on the Sabbath. If they had a setup like the Apollo missions the crew capsule and the lunar lander might be considered separate living domains. In that case they couldn't move between them and transfer equipment on the Sabbath.

Also, how is the Shabbat calculated since it is supposed to start at sundown on Friday? Obviously when you are in orbit sundown comes pretty fast and when you are traveling between the Earth and moon there is no "sundown". Would they base it on wherever mission control is?


1) An eruv ("mixture") allows people to carry things between private spaces and public ones*. We can safely categorize the lander as a public domain (since it's "owned" by taxpayers), and while you may need some fancy legalese to make the Moon a public domain (claimed by the US in the name of The People, n'est-ce pas?), it would also make carrying between those domains A-OK.

There's also the "prevent injury/death" exceptions above, and pretty much anything astronauts do between liftoff and recovery falls under that umbrella.

2) There are myriad opinions on how to follow Shabbat observance in weird atmospheric conditions (I think someone may also have attempted to answer the "offworld Shabbat" question) - my folks just got back from Alaska, where Shabbat started just after midnight Saturday morning, and went until 2am Sunday. There are other opinions that suggest that astronauts wishing to observe Shabbat (in space/orbit or on the Moon, it'd probably only be kiddush at mealtimes and the extra prayers, since it'd be infeasible for them not to, say, flip switches or use electricity) follow the time as it would be in their hometown or point of departure (so, they'd look up the candle lighting time for Cape Canaveral and use Mission Control's Earth clock. But you probably don't want open flames on a spacecraft anyway).

* by sectioning off an area (usually with string tied around poles) and then defining some property (often a box of matza, since it won't go bad for a long while) as owned by the people that live there - making the sectioned-off area one big "private" domain. These are limited to spaces where fewer than 600k people travel every day (like, you couldn't just put an eruv around the continental US).
 
2018-07-11 11:09:26 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Slypork: Could Israel have a manned spacecraft considered am eruv so the astronauts (would that be אסטרונאוטים?) could work on the Sabbath? From what I recall Orthodox Jews cannot move between domiciles on the Sabbath. If they had a setup like the Apollo missions the crew capsule and the lunar lander might be considered separate living domains. In that case they couldn't move between them and transfer equipment on the Sabbath.

Also, how is the Shabbat calculated since it is supposed to start at sundown on Friday? Obviously when you are in orbit sundown comes pretty fast and when you are traveling between the Earth and moon there is no "sundown". Would they base it on wherever mission control is?

1) An eruv ("mixture") allows people to carry things between private spaces and public ones*. We can safely categorize the lander as a public domain (since it's "owned" by taxpayers), and while you may need some fancy legalese to make the Moon a public domain (claimed by the US in the name of The People, n'est-ce pas?), it would also make carrying between those domains A-OK.

There's also the "prevent injury/death" exceptions above, and pretty much anything astronauts do between liftoff and recovery falls under that umbrella.

2) There are myriad opinions on how to follow Shabbat observance in weird atmospheric conditions (I think someone may also have attempted to answer the "offworld Shabbat" question) - my folks just got back from Alaska, where Shabbat started just after midnight Saturday morning, and went until 2am Sunday. There are other opinions that suggest that astronauts wishing to observe Shabbat (in space/orbit or on the Moon, it'd probably only be kiddush at mealtimes and the extra prayers, since it'd be infeasible for them not to, say, flip switches or use electricity) follow the time as it would be in their hometown or point of departure (so, they'd look up the candle lighting time for Cape Canaveral and use Mission Control's Earth clock. But you probably don ...


Thank you. And, of course, user name definitely checks out. Speaking of which, I recall reading somewhere that a Jewish astronaut, I think from Israel, took a dreidel to the ISS and set a record for the longest dreidel spin.
 
2018-07-11 12:29:28 PM  
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We know why they're really there.
 
2018-07-11 12:52:46 PM  
I think we're all overlooking the opportunity that this presents to combine Moon-landing hoaxers and holocaust deniers.  If we could work in 9-11 truthers somehow, we'd have a powerful Voltron of pig-ignorant conspiracy theorists.
 
2018-07-11 01:00:15 PM  

DocTravesty: I think we're all overlooking the opportunity that this presents to combine Moon-landing hoaxers and holocaust deniers.  If we could work in 9-11 truthers somehow, we'd have a powerful Voltron of pig-ignorant conspiracy theorists.


somehow this will prove the earth is flat
 
2018-07-11 01:17:53 PM  
So that's where they decided to send the Palestinians.
 
2018-07-11 01:33:41 PM  
ArcadianRefugee:

And who enforces this?  Someone from the UN gonna send them a strongly-worded letter?

"Nobody's allowed" to do a lot of things in space until someone does.


It sounds like you've never flown a space mission before.
 
2018-07-11 02:47:38 PM  

DocTravesty: I think we're all overlooking the opportunity that this presents to combine Moon-landing hoaxers and holocaust deniers.  If we could work in 9-11 truthers somehow, we'd have a powerful Voltron of pig-ignorant conspiracy theorists.


A German group is planning a lander that hold two rovers for the third quarter of 2019 that will land near the Apollo 17 site and examine the site from 200 meters away using high resolution cameras.

So having the Krauts in the mix means this must be an Israeli Nazi conspiracy in collusion with the Americans, Russians, and Chinese Moon hoaxers.  Space X will be launching both the Israeli and the German probes, so we can expect more "Fake X" claims as well.  I sure hope Buzz has been keeping his fist in good shape as we are going to need it.
 
2018-07-11 04:26:08 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: DocTravesty: I think we're all overlooking the opportunity that this presents to combine Moon-landing hoaxers and holocaust deniers.  If we could work in 9-11 truthers somehow, we'd have a powerful Voltron of pig-ignorant conspiracy theorists.

A German group is planning a lander that hold two rovers for the third quarter of 2019 that will land near the Apollo 17 site and examine the site from 200 meters away using high resolution cameras.

So having the Krauts in the mix means this must be an Israeli Nazi conspiracy in collusion with the Americans, Russians, and Chinese Moon hoaxers.  Space X will be launching both the Israeli and the German probes, so we can expect more "Fake X" claims as well.  I sure hope Buzz has been keeping his fist in good shape as we are going to need it.


Have you seen the chemtrails that come off of those rockets? They're going to start lunar warming! And, of course, the moon base will be used to expand the current Martian child sex slave operations.
 
2018-07-11 11:10:59 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: DocTravesty: I think we're all overlooking the opportunity that this presents to combine Moon-landing hoaxers and holocaust deniers.  If we could work in 9-11 truthers somehow, we'd have a powerful Voltron of pig-ignorant conspiracy theorists.

A German group is planning a lander that hold two rovers for the third quarter of 2019 that will land near the Apollo 17 site and examine the site from 200 meters away using high resolution cameras.

NASA won't let them land any closer than 2 km, so the probe has to drive the rest of the way.

NASA won't let them approach any closer than 200 m - and that's to the Apollo 17 rover only.
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Hey!  Germans!
Leave our sites alone.
 
2018-07-11 11:14:14 PM  

Foolkiller: [intunedonline.net image 850x541]
We know why they're really there.


What's up with the Medieval fortress construction?

Are they expecting attackers with grappling hooks and ladders?
 
2018-07-12 01:55:58 AM  

studebaker hoch: TheMysteriousStranger: DocTravesty: I think we're all overlooking the opportunity that this presents to combine Moon-landing hoaxers and holocaust deniers.  If we could work in 9-11 truthers somehow, we'd have a powerful Voltron of pig-ignorant conspiracy theorists.

A German group is planning a lander that hold two rovers for the third quarter of 2019 that will land near the Apollo 17 site and examine the site from 200 meters away using high resolution cameras.
NASA won't let them land any closer than 2 km, so the probe has to drive the rest of the way.

NASA won't let them approach any closer than 200 m - and that's to the Apollo 17 rover only.
(source)

Hey!  Germans!
Leave our sites alone.


I don't think it is entirely accurate to say that NASA won't let them go closer than 200 meters.  It is more like not being a dick and respecting NASA's wishes.  It is not like the Germans have to do what NASA says.  Though I suppose the use of a SpaceX rocket might mean that NASA could cause trouble per se, but there are completely non-American rocket options that NASA would be powerless to do anything about.

In any event, I think that if and when the German rovers do approach Apollo 17, I will submit something to the effect that German rover find Apollo 17 is not there with an "unlikely" tag and a link to an article with pics of Apollo 17.  And I hope that Jack Schmitt is still around to enjoy the images.  Sadly Gene Cernan died last year.
 
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