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2018-07-10 02:42:24 PM  
Someone should fire him.
 
2018-07-10 03:00:36 PM  
So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.
 
2018-07-10 03:12:22 PM  
This is not my planet. WTF happened? I must have slept thru my stop.
 
2018-07-10 03:15:41 PM  
For  some reason, every time I hear this story I keep thinking of that scene in the movie Starsky and Hutch where Starsky accidentally ingests cocaine thinking it is sugar and goes wild on the dance floor..
 
2018-07-10 03:21:22 PM  

BalugaJoe: Someone should fire

at him.

FTFY
 
2018-07-10 03:24:24 PM  

snocone: This is not my planet. WTF happened? I must have slept thru my stop.


Your in the darkest time-line. The moose should of told ya out front

room with a moose
Youtube JmvstVTKvAs
 
2018-07-10 03:24:44 PM  
Since when did the FBI become part of the NRA?
 
2018-07-10 03:26:31 PM  

thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.


AND let him keep his job.
 
2018-07-10 03:27:10 PM  

thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.


I'm pretty sure that if an officer does it, whatever it is, it's never against the law.

Cops don't write cops.
 
2018-07-10 03:27:26 PM  
ONLy POLicE shUOLd hAvE teH gUnZ

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2018-07-10 03:27:50 PM  

Kirablue42: For  some reason, every time I hear this story I keep thinking of that scene in the movie Starsky and Hutch where Starsky accidentally ingests cocaine thinking it is sugar and goes wild on the dance floor..


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Wasn't no accident.   You dig ?
 
2018-07-10 03:29:28 PM  
Not amused and probably spinning in his grave right about now....

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2018-07-10 03:30:20 PM  

thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.


The difference for the first one, is that unlike 99.999 percent of CCW holders, people actually may try to kill an FBI agent.  It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.  Remember the case from a few months back where the homeless man living in San Fran illegally from another country found and dropped a gun, and it went off?  He was cleared, even though a woman died, because it was an accident.  Discharging means you intentionally fired off your weapon.  Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law, but just because you are at a place dancing, that serves alcohol, does not mean you were drinking.  

I agree that he should be punished for poor judgement, and the FBI should review it's rules, but this isn't like some Bubba firing off his gun at the bar, while showing off to his friends.
 
2018-07-10 03:30:29 PM  
Free Drinks Forever - he can shoot me too please
 
2018-07-10 03:30:38 PM  
Woohoo, he's a RESPONSIBLE gun owner again.

Until the next negligent discharge.
 
2018-07-10 03:32:58 PM  
Well I hope at least they bought him a more secure holster...
 
2018-07-10 03:33:13 PM  
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What a farking moran. Yeah let's give him his gun back, he's obviously very responsible.
 
2018-07-10 03:33:35 PM  

winedrinkingman: thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.

The difference for the first one, is that unlike 99.999 percent of CCW holders, people actually may try to kill an FBI agent.  It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.  Remember the case from a few months back where the homeless man living in San Fran illegally from another country found and dropped a gun, and it went off?  He was cleared, even though a woman died, because it was an accident.  Discharging means you intentionally fired off your weapon.  Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law, but just because you are at a place dancing, that serves alcohol, does not mean you were drinking.  

I agree that he should be punished for poor judgement, and the FBI should review it's rules, but this isn't like some Bubba firing off his gun at the bar, while showing off to his friends.


It didn't go off when he dropped it. It went off when he picked it up with his finger on the trigger. When drunk....

The video is online, check it out.  He didn't even check the person who got shot, he just walked off.
 
2018-07-10 03:33:54 PM  

winedrinkingman: It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.


The firearm didn't go off when dropped.

The firearm went off when the trigger was pulled as it was being picked up.
 
2018-07-10 03:34:47 PM  

winedrinkingman: thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.

The difference for the first one, is that unlike 99.999 percent of CCW holders, people actually may try to kill an FBI agent.  It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.  Remember the case from a few months back where the homeless man living in San Fran illegally from another country found and dropped a gun, and it went off?  He was cleared, even though a woman died, because it was an accident.  Discharging means you intentionally fired off your weapon.  Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law, but just because you are at a place dancing, that serves alcohol, does not mean you were drinking.  

I agree that he should be punished for poor judgement, and the FBI should review it's rules, but this isn't like some Bubba firing off his gun at the bar, while showing off to his friends.


So what you are saying is if I'm sitting in the passenger seat in a car, turn on the engine and i just happen to run over 30 or 40 nazis racially sensitive young republicans it would neither be my fault or a crime?
 
2018-07-10 03:38:54 PM  
'Too Many D*cks on the Dance Floor' Flight of the Conchords
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2018-07-10 03:39:22 PM  

Vidwiz: Free Drinks Forever - he can shoot me too please


my thoughts on reading the article as well.
 
2018-07-10 03:39:42 PM  
Where do you think the crack in his ass originated?
 
2018-07-10 03:40:23 PM  

steklo: Not amused and probably spinning in his grave right about now country western cousin

 
2018-07-10 03:41:00 PM  
This guy obliviously wasn't a democrat.
 
2018-07-10 03:41:12 PM  
It's impossible to tell from the video if he pulled the trigger when picking it up.

Was the safety off? Was a round chambered?

I wonder what FBI policy is on that.
 
2018-07-10 03:41:51 PM  
Ashelth:

So what you are saying is if I'm sitting in the passenger seat in a car, turn on the engine and i just happen to run over 30 or 40 nazis racially sensitive young republicans it would neither be my fault or a crime?

Not if they recover fine, and get free booz for life.  I mean ... that seems like a fair trade.
 
2018-07-10 03:42:22 PM  
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2018-07-10 03:42:32 PM  
"The nightclub, Mile High Spirits, has offered free drinks "forever" to the man shot in the incident."

Drawing from my experience of being shot 0 times, I am wondering if this might be worth a flesh wound.
 
2018-07-10 03:43:06 PM  

winedrinkingman: thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.

The difference for the first one, is that unlike 99.999 percent of CCW holders, people actually may try to kill an FBI agent.  It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.  Remember the case from a few months back where the homeless man living in San Fran illegally from another country found and dropped a gun, and it went off?  He was cleared, even though a woman died, because it was an accident.  Discharging means you intentionally fired off your weapon.  Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law, but just because you are at a place dancing, that serves alcohol, does not mean you were drinking.  

I agree that he should be punished for poor judgement, and the FBI should review it's rules, but this isn't like some Bubba firing off his gun at the bar, while showing off to his friends.


The gun didn't go off when he dropped it. The gun went off when he picked it up and squeezed the trigger. You can see it in the video, after which he just sort of throws his hands in the air and walks away.

Seems like a negligent discharge to me, but I'm not investigating, so my two sense don't really matter.
 
2018-07-10 03:43:27 PM  
 
2018-07-10 03:44:18 PM  

winedrinkingman: The difference for the first one, is that unlike 99.999 percent of CCW holders, people actually may try to kill an FBI agent.  It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.  Remember the case from a few months back where the homeless man living in San Fran illegally from another country found and dropped a gun, and it went off?  He was cleared, even though a woman died, because it was an accident.  Discharging means you intentionally fired off your weapon.  Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law, but just because you are at a place dancing, that serves alcohol, does not mean you were drinking.


It was a place that is a nightclub/bar. You aren't supposed to carry there. And federal law enforcement shouldn't be carrying while drinking.

The last time an FBI agent died due to an assailant was in 1992 (random failed robbery outside a motel).

The last time an FBI agent was killed in the course of their duties from criminal action- 1931.

The rest are plane/car crashes and training accidents.
 
2018-07-10 03:45:07 PM  
He should probably spend a few months at a desk and get some training.  They loved to carry with one in the chamber, and no safety.  But that's a shiatty way to dance.
 
2018-07-10 03:46:36 PM  
I took the law and threw it away
Cause there's nothing wrong
It's just for play
There's no law, no law anymore
I want to steal from the rich and
Give to the poor
 
2018-07-10 03:46:57 PM  

winedrinkingman: thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.

The difference for the first one, is that unlike 99.999 percent of CCW holders, people actually may try to kill an FBI agent.  It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.  Remember the case from a few months back where the homeless man living in San Fran illegally from another country found and dropped a gun, and it went off?  He was cleared, even though a woman died, because it was an accident.  Discharging means you intentionally fired off your weapon.  Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law, but just because you are at a place dancing, that serves alcohol, does not mean you were drinking.  

I agree that he should be punished for poor judgement, and the FBI should review it's rules, but this isn't like some Bubba firing off his gun at the bar, while showing off to his friends.


The gun went off when he picked it up, not when he dropped it.  Which means that not only was he negligent in it dropping, but he picked it up by the farking trigger!

So the gun should not have been unsecured in its holster.  The safety should have been on.  He shouldn't have had it on him when he was drinking.  He certainly shouldn't have been dancing in a manner that would cause the thing to drop out.

I do not know what kind of mental gymnastics someone did in order to get this guy to carry a gun again.  He should have been fired outright.  Or at the very least, put on desk duty.

This wasn't just careless.  It was stupid, careless, negligent, arrogant, and dangerous.  It's also one of the many reasons I think it's stupid to let people carry guns.  Even the best trained are too farking stupid and careless to be trusted.
 
2018-07-10 03:47:19 PM  
1) I actually expected him to get fired.

2) I've mentioned this before, but one of my cousins is in the FBI.  When this story was everywhere, I texted him about it, and his response was great:

"Probably a Broncos fan too.  Good riddance."

/But there wasn't a riddance...good or bad.
 
2018-07-10 03:47:36 PM  
Free drinks for life for getting shot in the leg? Sign me up.
 
KIA
2018-07-10 03:47:49 PM  

thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.


Government employees are always superior to normies. Stop your normie whining and get with the boot-licking.

Filthy normie.
 
2018-07-10 03:48:27 PM  

Riche: It's impossible to tell from the video if he pulled the trigger when picking it up.

Was the safety off? Was a round chambered?

I wonder what FBI policy is on that.


clearly a round was chambered.  and not all guns have external safeties ....Glocks for example have none.
they have a release built into the trigger...that is stupidly ineffective.
Glock Safe Action Mechanism
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google the term "glock leg" sometime.

/glocks aren't the only pistols with this setup either.
 
2018-07-10 03:55:45 PM  

aungen: He should probably spend a few months at a desk and get some training.  They loved to carry with one in the chamber, and no safety.  But that's a shiatty way to dance.


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2018-07-10 03:56:05 PM  

winedrinkingman: thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.

The difference for the first one, is that unlike 99.999 percent of CCW holders, people actually may try to kill an FBI agent.  It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.  Remember the case from a few months back where the homeless man living in San Fran illegally from another country found and dropped a gun, and it went off?  He was cleared, even though a woman died, because it was an accident.  Discharging means you intentionally fired off your weapon.  Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law, but just because you are at a place dancing, that serves alcohol, does not mean you were drinking.  

I agree that he should be punished for poor judgement, and the FBI should review it's rules, but this isn't like some Bubba firing off his gun at the bar, while showing off to his friends.


--
The gun didn't fire when he dropped it. He put his finger inside the trigger guard and squeezed it when he picked it up. Who the fark does that? The FBI is a very permissive organization, apparently.
 
2018-07-10 03:58:15 PM  

KIA: thehobbes: So carrying a firearm (with a CCW) inside a bar is against the law.
Discharging it negligently causing bodily harm is against the law.
Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law.

Yup. Give him his gun back.

Government employees are always superior to normies. Stop your normie whining and get with the boot-licking.

Filthy normie.


Wait, I'm not a normie?

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2018-07-10 03:59:58 PM  
Reminds me of this, sadly:

Pale Rider (1985) - Stockburn
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2018-07-10 04:00:53 PM  

Stratohead: Riche: It's impossible to tell from the video if he pulled the trigger when picking it up.

Was the safety off? Was a round chambered?

I wonder what FBI policy is on that.

clearly a round was chambered.  and not all guns have external safeties ....Glocks for example have none.
they have a release built into the trigger...that is stupidly ineffective.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Q-4Eb-RL​zdk]

google the term "glock leg" sometime.

/glocks aren't the only pistols with this setup either.


Cue the "b-b-b-but muh finger is muh trigger" assholes.
 
2018-07-10 04:01:20 PM  

Kit Fister: Cue the "b-b-b-but muh finger is muh trigger safety" assholes.


ftfm
 
2018-07-10 04:05:58 PM  

fnordfocus: I'm pretty sure that if an officer does it, whatever it is, it's never against the law.


FTA: "Bishop was charged with second-degree assault last month after he accidentally shot a man at a Denver nightclub."
 
2018-07-10 04:06:20 PM  
Has anyone pointed out yet that it wasn't when he dropped the gun, but rather when he picked it up that it discharged?
 
2018-07-10 04:06:25 PM  
My understanding is he has been charged, but not yet convicted of second degree assault. This is a felony in Colorado.

If he is convicted he will be a felon. This means he loses his firearm rights, correct?
 
2018-07-10 04:07:09 PM  

Stratohead: Riche: It's impossible to tell from the video if he pulled the trigger when picking it up.

Was the safety off? Was a round chambered?

I wonder what FBI policy is on that.

clearly a round was chambered.  and not all guns have external safeties ....Glocks for example have none.
they have a release built into the trigger...that is stupidly ineffective.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Q-4Eb-RL​zdk]

google the term "glock leg" sometime.

/glocks aren't the only pistols with this setup either.


When does a passive safety prevent a successful trigger pull? Never. That's some safety you got there.
 
2018-07-10 04:07:52 PM  

thehobbes: winedrinkingman: The difference for the first one, is that unlike 99.999 percent of CCW holders, people actually may try to kill an FBI agent.  It is not negligent discharge of a firearm, if it goes off when dropped.  Remember the case from a few months back where the homeless man living in San Fran illegally from another country found and dropped a gun, and it went off?  He was cleared, even though a woman died, because it was an accident.  Discharging means you intentionally fired off your weapon.  Carrying a firearm while drinking is against the law, but just because you are at a place dancing, that serves alcohol, does not mean you were drinking.

It was a place that is a nightclub/bar. You aren't supposed to carry there. And federal law enforcement shouldn't be carrying while drinking.

The last time an FBI agent died due to an assailant was in 1992 (random failed robbery outside a motel).

The last time an FBI agent was killed in the course of their duties from criminal action- 1931.

The rest are plane/car crashes and training accidents.


thats a LOAD OF BS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FB​I​_Miami_shootout

My Father and Step mother were Dade County and Miami FBI at the time of the above incident. They also made a movie about it starring Mr Keaton from Family Ties
 
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