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6 days ago  
Parents who had severe trauma, stresses in childhood more likely to have kids with behavioral health problems.

I suspect that's less true among parents who deal with their own sh*t instead of taking it out on their children.
 
6 days ago  
Hey, I'm the first male in my line going back at least six generations that ISN'T a semi-violent alcoholic, so there's that.

I found NEW ways to screw up things with my daughter, but it's all about the baby steps, right?
 
6 days ago  
Not at all. my parents are narcissists, while I'm an asocial misanthrope. Totally different.
 
6 days ago  
So, the Great Depression explains the 60s counterculture?

/spitballing here...
 
6 days ago  
I suspect that's less true among parents who deal with their own sh*t instead of taking it out on their children.

Done in one.
 
6 days ago  
My mom is the eldest of many children and her father hated her.

My dad is the youngest of many children and his mom hated him.

Feel free to extrapolate my particular hell ..
 
6 days ago  
Actually, I'm my own grandpa....

I'm My Own Grandpa- Ray Stevens ( with family tree diagram)
Youtube eYlJH81dSiw
 
6 days ago  

hubiestubert: Hey, I'm the first male in my line going back at least six generations that ISN'T a semi-violent alcoholic, so there's that.

I found NEW ways to screw up things with my daughter, but it's all about the baby steps, right?


Amen.

I may be screwing up my son's future, but it's in new and more subtle ways than my parents did mine, their parents did theirs, etc. Progress!
 
6 days ago  
Inheritance is accidental. 

At one point when trying to deal with my PTSD I talked with my mom over her past and childhood a bit too. What we realized is that there is probably 6 generations of women who have been traumatized to the point of PTSD. In my mom's cause, it manifests as depression. In mine, it's dissociative disorder. 

This is why what they are doing to those children in the concentration camps is so horrible. This will ruin children for generations, simply because of the coping mechanisms their parents will need to adopt in order to handle the mental farking that the US gov't has given them. 

That is inexcusable, and every single farking Republican should never have a peaceful meal in public again because of it.
 
6 days ago  
And THAT is why I decided I'll never have kids (and luckily my wife is of the same mindset).
 
6 days ago  
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
Peki:This is why what they are doing to those children in the concentration camps is so horrible. This will ruin children for generations, simply because of the coping mechanisms their parents will need to adopt in order to handle the mental farking that the US gov't has given them.

That is inexcusable, and every single farking Republican should never have a peaceful meal in public again because of it.


HAHAHAHA, so do we get to harass democrats because Obama was doing it too?
I also like how it's US's fault, the not the fault of the parents who decide to bring their kids on a crime spree. I guess when we put the parents in jail, we should send the kids with them.
Trump at least put out an executive order to stop it. Unlike Obama, but then, you didn't give one wet fart while Obama was doing it.
Of course, congress could actually do something about this and change the laws, but we can't do that unless both sides can stick it to the other.

You REALLY think they are concentration camps, don't you?
 
6 days ago  

hubiestubert: Hey, I'm the first male in my line going back at least six generations that ISN'T a semi-violent alcoholic


Kudos to you for showing full commitment where your family only graded out at "semi"
 
6 days ago  

PirateKing: Not at all. my parents are narcissists, while I'm an asocial misanthrope. Totally different.


Crap.  Are you me?  Did I log in to the wrong account again?

MelGoesOnTour: And THAT is why I decided I'll never have kids (and luckily my wife is of the same mindset).


THIS.  The world doesn't need another farked up copy of my farked up bloodline.  Why people think otherwise is utterly beyond me.  But I am willing to admit, grudgingly, that I'm glad at least a few of my smart, sane friends are reproducing.

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6 days ago  
if you want to know what your girl will look like when she's 54 just check out her mother
and there you go
 
6 days ago  

mrsleep: bring their kids on a crime spree


Fark you.  Willful misinformation and lying propaganda.  Seeking asylum is not only not a crime, but *must* be done from US soil.

mrsleep: didn't give one wet fart while Obama was doing it


Fark you. Straw man and whataboutism.  (a) Plenty of people were upset about what was happening under Obama.  (b) What was happening under Obama was -nothing- like what is going on under D2S.

Since there are no trolls on Fark, there is only willful misinformation, propaganda, and hate speech.  Fark really needs to think deeply about why they allow it to go on, the business decisions that have been made to this point, and the ramifications... and whether the clicks are really worth it.
 
6 days ago  

Peki: That is inexcusable, and every single farking Republican should never have a peaceful meal in public again because of it.


Do it.  I *DARE* you.

I guarantee you won't like living under the new rules of civility (or lack thereof) that you're suggesting here.
 
6 days ago  

BlazeTrailer: hubiestubert: Hey, I'm the first male in my line going back at least six generations that ISN'T a semi-violent alcoholic

Kudos to you for showing full commitment where your family only graded out at "semi"


I WAS a bouncer for a lot of years, but I wasn't drinking those years. I'm not going to discount my anger issues, but I do at least have the good sense to point them at people who desperately deserve it. Yes, it makes me a bad Buddhist, but I can admit that, and work from there.
 
6 days ago  

mrsleep: You REALLY think they are concentration camps, don't you?


You obviously can't read if you really think the parents are committing a crime bringing their kids across the border. You obviously have only double-digit IQ if you know nothing of the asylum process at this point. 

This is the last I'll be posting to you. You're obviously too stupid to hold a conversation that is text-based.
 
6 days ago  

SFSailor: mrsleep: bring their kids on a crime spree

Fark you.  Willful misinformation and lying propaganda.  Seeking asylum is not only not a crime, but *must* be done from US soil.

mrsleep: didn't give one wet fart while Obama was doing it

Fark you. Straw man and whataboutism.  (a) Plenty of people were upset about what was happening under Obama.  (b) What was happening under Obama was -nothing- like what is going on under D2S.

Since there are no trolls on Fark, there is only willful misinformation, propaganda, and hate speech.  Fark really needs to think deeply about why they allow it to go on, the business decisions that have been made to this point, and the ramifications... and whether the clicks are really worth it.


A thousand suns worth of THIS.
 
6 days ago  

dittybopper: Peki: That is inexcusable, and every single farking Republican should never have a peaceful meal in public again because of it.

Do it.  I *DARE* you.

I guarantee you won't like living under the new rules of civility (or lack thereof) that you're suggesting here.


What? You think I'll be harassed every place I go to eat? Like I don't already. I have psoriasis spots that cover over 75% of my body. I get harassed every time I take my son to the park for godsakes. 

Sad little snowflakes can't handle eating dinner with someone shouting at them. obamadealwithit.gif
 
6 days ago  
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how one may become their own parent.
 
6 days ago  

SFSailor: Fark you.  Willful misinformation and lying propaganda.  Seeking asylum is not only not a crime, but *must* be done from US soil.


Did they come here legally?  No?
 
6 days ago  

Peki: dittybopper: Peki: That is inexcusable, and every single farking Republican should never have a peaceful meal in public again because of it.

Do it.  I *DARE* you.

I guarantee you won't like living under the new rules of civility (or lack thereof) that you're suggesting here.

What? You think I'll be harassed every place I go to eat? Like I don't already. I have psoriasis spots that cover over 75% of my body. I get harassed every time I take my son to the park for godsakes. 

Sad little snowflakes can't handle eating dinner with someone shouting at them. obamadealwithit.gif


Like I said, you won't like it.  When some asshole decides to doxx you and you end up with a bunch of political shiat-stains (both sides have them) making your life miserable, just remember I warned you.

Plus, like I said, do it for political reasons.  You'll be making an in-kind donation to Trump's re-election campaign.
 
6 days ago  

dittybopper: SFSailor: Fark you.  Willful misinformation and lying propaganda.  Seeking asylum is not only not a crime, but *must* be done from US soil.

Did they come here legally?  No?


FFS, NO.

One last time, since there are always lurkers who may believe bullshiat if it is left unaddressed:  Seeking asylum is not illegal.  Further, it -must- be done _from_US_soil_.  D2S's regime is CAGING CHILDREN WHO WERE BROUGHT HERE TO SEEK ASYLUM.

At this point, anyone mindlessly parroting this talking point about "they're hear illegally!" is either (a) willfully ignorant, (b) objectively ignorant, but somehow a praise-worthy idiot-savant if able to use a computer without choking on the keyboard yet can't manage to grok the notion that asylum seeking children shouldn't be in cages, their parents torn away and paperwork lost, or (c) deliberately obfuscating the issue and propagandizing for nefarious, possibly treasonous, reasons.

(b) is excusable, sorta, I guess.  (a) is inexcusable, but could be blamed on a lifetime of poor information resources and a lack of intellectual curiosity and worldly experience.

(c) however, should be forced to face justice when the rest of the traitors of the D2S regime are prosecuted.

Anyone posting bullshiat like this should think carefully about which of them they are.  Google can help with (a) or (b).  Only self-reflection and a demonstrated willingness apologetically to change ways can even begin to address (c).

And that's before we even get to more sophisticated notions like, "huh, since you're not posting in Sioux, I'm guessing someone in your past immigrated here; immigration laws are capricious, punitive, manifestations of their time, and almost always racist" and "FFS, Mexican culture was here before Spain got here, and welllll before California was a state; borders are arbitrary and serve only the current rulers."
 
6 days ago  
Except only one of me is dead and I don' have no kids.
 
6 days ago  
Jesus, Ditty, I thought you were better than this. I'll break this down, nice and easy for everybody to understand:
1. These migrants go to the border. Prior to DJT, if they came in illegally [i.e. outside of a border crossing], they would be processed together and deported together. Families were not separated.
2. DJT and his administration changed the rules: even if the migrants go through the border crossing, the migrants are rejected and their children are taken away to camps, where they are concentrated.
3. The laws behind this decision have not changed. Therefore, if a migrant and their family cross the border at a crossing, they are entering the country legally. Full stop. These people are legal migrants.
4. By declaring all migrants illegal and all entry illegal, we are breaking our own laws. This behavior is what people find abhorrent.

I hope this simple primer helps you before you get a stress-induced heart attack.
 
6 days ago  

Peki: This is why what they are doing to those children in the concentration camps is so horrible. This will ruin children for generations, simply because of the coping mechanisms their parents will need to adopt in order to handle the mental farking that the US gov't has given them


The ACLU and the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law were in court for ten years to make sure that children were separated from their parents on humanitarian grounds.
 
6 days ago  

on the road: Peki: This is why what they are doing to those children in the concentration camps is so horrible. This will ruin children for generations, simply because of the coping mechanisms their parents will need to adopt in order to handle the mental farking that the US gov't has given them

The ACLU and the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law were in court for ten years to make sure that children were separated from their parents on humanitarian grounds.


Um... were? Did you mean weren't?
 
6 days ago  

beezeltown: So, the Great Depression explains the 60s counterculture?

/spitballing here...


A lot of the Beat writers were born in the '20s or before and found their voices in the 1950s; a short hop to the younger ones who adhered and took up the philosophy (if there was one) in the early and mid-1960s.

/ just a crackpot theory
// see also Hemingway's Lost Generation and the futility felt after WWI, Spanish Civil War, WWII and Korea
/// maybe not so much cause and effect but a steady stream of conscientious-ness
 
6 days ago  

kbronsito: [images.amcnetworks.com image 560x330]

how one may become their own parent.


kinda puts a whole new spin on "the child is father to the man" .

Didn't Terminator kinda do the same thing, too?
 
6 days ago  

AfroSpatula: on the road: Peki: This is why what they are doing to those children in the concentration camps is so horrible. This will ruin children for generations, simply because of the coping mechanisms their parents will need to adopt in order to handle the mental farking that the US gov't has given them

The ACLU and the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law were in court for ten years to make sure that children were separated from their parents on humanitarian grounds.

Um... were? Did you mean weren't?


No. Re-read that. 

Separating a child from a parent under humanitarian grounds would be because the child is being abused in some way. 

If that was the case, no one would be upset. That is so clearly NOT the case.
 
6 days ago  

AfroSpatula: Jesus, Ditty, I thought you were better than this. I'll break this down, nice and easy for everybody to understand:
1. These migrants go to the border. Prior to DJT, if they came in illegally [i.e. outside of a border crossing], they would be processed together and deported together. Families were not separated.
2. DJT and his administration changed the rules: even if the migrants go through the border crossing, the migrants are rejected and their children are taken away to camps, where they are concentrated.
3. The laws behind this decision have not changed. Therefore, if a migrant and their family cross the border at a crossing, they are entering the country legally. Full stop. These people are legal migrants.
4. By declaring all migrants illegal and all entry illegal, we are breaking our own laws. This behavior is what people find abhorrent.

I hope this simple primer helps you before you get a stress-induced heart attack.


Smarted for facts. Funnied for thinking Mr bopper is better than that.
 
6 days ago  
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I swear, you guys are better than TV.

/no commercials
//better insults
///not as pretty, though
 
6 days ago  

hubiestubert: Hey, I'm the first male in my line going back at least six generations that ISN'T a semi-violent alcoholic, so there's that.

I found NEW ways to screw up things with my daughter, but it's all about the baby steps, right?


WHY IS YOUR BABBY STEPPING LIKE THAT?!!!
 
6 days ago  

Peki: Inheritance is accidental. 

At one point when trying to deal with my PTSD I talked with my mom over her past and childhood a bit too. What we realized is that there is probably 6 generations of women who have been traumatized to the point of PTSD. In my mom's cause, it manifests as depression. In mine, it's dissociative disorder. 

This is why what they are doing to those children in the concentration camps is so horrible. This will ruin children for generations, simply because of the coping mechanisms their parents will need to adopt in order to handle the mental farking that the US gov't has given them. 

That is inexcusable, and every single farking Republican should never have a peaceful meal in public again because of it.


Threadshiatter.
 
6 days ago  

The Smails Kid: Threadshiatter.


I think that's the first time I've ever been called that. 

If I don't come back to a thread, it's because I'm farking busy. I don't like to dump and run. Now, if you have a comment on post, feel free, and let's start a convo.
 
5 days ago  
There is good to be found even in the most adverse of situations.  I'd never resent certain people or those old times; they guide each of us to be who we are today.  You can either let them shape you, or be your ruination.

I've saw that love is always fleeting, might is always right, and it is impossible for a wolf to give a single fark for the opinions of sheep.  The day one can no longer stand on their own is the day they should dig their grave

Family bonds are like cheap soggy garments, carelessly ripped off and cast into mud once burdened by the falling rain.

I'd never have gotten to where i did today without the experiences that i did.  Nobody can take those away from any of us--certainly no reason to allow them to harm your future.
 
5 days ago  

dittybopper: Did they come here legally?  No?


If your first question when hearing about kids put in cage in concentration camps is "Did they come here legally ?", we have a difference in morality, not politics.
 
5 days ago  

padraig: dittybopper: Did they come here legally?  No?

If your first question when hearing about kids put in cage in concentration camps is "Did they come here legally ?", we have a difference in morality, not politics.


Funny how you didn't complain when it was Barack Obama putting them in cages.  Which suggests to me, you really don't farking care.  If you did, then you'd have complained about this back in 2014:

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5 days ago  

padraig: dittybopper: Did they come here legally?  No?

If your first question when hearing about kids put in cage in concentration camps is "Did they come here legally ?", we have a difference in morality, not politics.


Oh, and *FARK YOU* for trying to make the association between Nazi death camps and the temporary housing for people who broke the law to cross the farkin' border and their children.

Has it at last come to this?  Have you no shame?
 
5 days ago  

Peki: Inheritance is accidental. 

At one point when trying to deal with my PTSD I talked with my mom over her past and childhood a bit too. What we realized is that there is probably 6 generations of women who have been traumatized to the point of PTSD. In my mom's cause, it manifests as depression. In mine, it's dissociative disorder. 

This is why what they are doing to those children in the concentration camps is so horrible. This will ruin children for generations, simply because of the coping mechanisms their parents will need to adopt in order to handle the mental farking that the US gov't has given them. 

That is inexcusable, and every single farking Republican should never have a peaceful meal in public again because of it.


God help us in 25 years when these kids are all growed up. What's the Guatalamalan version of the name Hannibal?
 
5 days ago  
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5 days ago  

dittybopper: padraig: dittybopper: Did they come here legally?  No?

If your first question when hearing about kids put in cage in concentration camps is "Did they come here legally ?", we have a difference in morality, not politics.

Oh, and *FARK YOU* for trying to make the association between Nazi death camps and the temporary housing for people who broke the law to cross the farkin' border and their children.

Has it at last come to this?  Have you no shame?


Have you?

You support separating kids from their parents and putting them in cages. You don't get to claim the moral high ground.

You don't like being called a nazi? Well, tough it up, snowflake, or get back to your safe place.
 
5 days ago  

dittybopper: padraig: dittybopper: Did they come here legally?  No?

If your first question when hearing about kids put in cage in concentration camps is "Did they come here legally ?", we have a difference in morality, not politics.

Oh, and *FARK YOU* for trying to make the association between Nazi death camps and the temporary housing for people who broke the law to cross the farkin' border and their children.

Has it at last come to this?  Have you no shame?


Every time I think I see a new low from you, you just go and outdo yourself.

If you want to claim the moral high ground you have to occupy it first. Voting from the rooftops, while technical high ground, does not count as the moral high ground.
 
5 days ago  
Also, I notice Mr. Bopper is only active in non-PolTab threads these days yet is still addressing political topics.  Looks like someone wanted to take his ball but couldn't bring himself to go home.
 
5 days ago  

dittybopper: padraig: dittybopper: Did they come here legally?  No?

If your first question when hearing about kids put in cage in concentration camps is "Did they come here legally ?", we have a difference in morality, not politics.

Funny how you didn't complain when it was Barack Obama putting them in cages.  Which suggests to me, you really don't farking care.  If you did, then you'd have complained about this back in 2014:

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Jesus ditty, you're normally pretty stable but WTF.

It's pretty simple, let me break it down for you:

1) Putting kids in cages is wrong, period. We don't care under what admin it happened and it needs to stop, like now.

2) Under the Bush and Obama admin, unaccompanied minors need to be processed with special care to make sure they aren't trafficked. Bush signed the order, but unaccompanied minor crossings exploded during the Obama admin due to the chaos in central and southern america. Private prison companies began angling in on the market and hence the whole converted walmarts.

3) What Trump is doing is taking asylum seeking families, regardless of whether they came through legal checkpoints or not, and separating the kids. These kids then get labeled "unaccompanied minors" and go to baby gulags and shady adoption agencies for lots of government money (800/kid/day). These private prisons donated a lot to the Trump campaign and the adoption agencies are connected to DeVos. It's about 90%.

3A) If you are an asylum seeker you can cross the border outside of a legal checkpoint, it's not illegal for them to do so. Also, the fine for illegal crossing is $10 bucks.

4) No effort was made to keep track of these kids, and if the parents are deported they are not reunited. There was no plan to reunite them because they got forced into the "unaccompanied minor" bucket for tax payer cash and security theater.

Source: The ACLU, court testimonies, etc. Too many to list overall.
 
5 days ago  

shortymac: dittybopper: padraig: dittybopper: Did they come here legally?  No?

If your first question when hearing about kids put in cage in concentration camps is "Did they come here legally ?", we have a difference in morality, not politics.

Funny how you didn't complain when it was Barack Obama putting them in cages.  Which suggests to me, you really don't farking care.  If you did, then you'd have complained about this back in 2014:

[amp.businessinsider.com image 750x375]

Jesus ditty, you're normally pretty stable but WTF.

It's pretty simple, let me break it down for you:

1) Putting kids in cages is wrong, period. We don't care under what admin it happened and it needs to stop, like now.

2) Under the Bush and Obama admin, unaccompanied minors need to be processed with special care to make sure they aren't trafficked. Bush signed the order, but unaccompanied minor crossings exploded during the Obama admin due to the chaos in central and southern america. Private prison companies began angling in on the market and hence the whole converted walmarts.

3) What Trump is doing is taking asylum seeking families, regardless of whether they came through legal checkpoints or not, and separating the kids. These kids then get labeled "unaccompanied minors" and go to baby gulags and shady adoption agencies for lots of government money (800/kid/day). These private prisons donated a lot to the Trump campaign and the adoption agencies are connected to DeVos. It's about 90%.

3A) If you are an asylum seeker you can cross the border outside of a legal checkpoint, it's not illegal for them to do so. Also, the fine for illegal crossing is $10 bucks.

4) No effort was made to keep track of these kids, and if the parents are deported they are not reunited. There was no plan to reunite them because they got forced into the "unaccompanied minor" bucket for tax payer cash and security theater.

Source: The ACLU, court testimonies, etc. Too many to list overall.


Dont bother.  Brave Sir Ditty threadshat and ran away.
 
5 days ago  

TelemonianAjax: shortymac: dittybopper: padraig: dittybopper: Did they come here legally?  No?

If your first question when hearing about kids put in cage in concentration camps is "Did they come here legally ?", we have a difference in morality, not politics.

Funny how you didn't complain when it was Barack Obama putting them in cages.  Which suggests to me, you really don't farking care.  If you did, then you'd have complained about this back in 2014:

[amp.businessinsider.com image 750x375]

Jesus ditty, you're normally pretty stable but WTF.

It's pretty simple, let me break it down for you:

1) Putting kids in cages is wrong, period. We don't care under what admin it happened and it needs to stop, like now.

2) Under the Bush and Obama admin, unaccompanied minors need to be processed with special care to make sure they aren't trafficked. Bush signed the order, but unaccompanied minor crossings exploded during the Obama admin due to the chaos in central and southern america. Private prison companies began angling in on the market and hence the whole converted walmarts.

3) What Trump is doing is taking asylum seeking families, regardless of whether they came through legal checkpoints or not, and separating the kids. These kids then get labeled "unaccompanied minors" and go to baby gulags and shady adoption agencies for lots of government money (800/kid/day). These private prisons donated a lot to the Trump campaign and the adoption agencies are connected to DeVos. It's about 90%.

3A) If you are an asylum seeker you can cross the border outside of a legal checkpoint, it's not illegal for them to do so. Also, the fine for illegal crossing is $10 bucks.

4) No effort was made to keep track of these kids, and if the parents are deported they are not reunited. There was no plan to reunite them because they got forced into the "unaccompanied minor" bucket for tax payer cash and security theater.

Source: The ACLU, court testimonies, etc. Too many to list overall.

Dont bother.  Bra ...


Oh well, I might just make this a copy pasta because my god I have to fight the disinformation.
 
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