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737 clicks; posted to Sports » on 25 Jun 2018 at 10:05 AM (12 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2018-06-25 09:06:05 AM  
make sure his game doesn't go south
 
2018-06-25 09:51:06 AM  
Do they have a point?
 
2018-06-25 09:54:03 AM  
Maybe he wanted to go North....

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2018-06-25 10:02:05 AM  
White people's problems.
 
2018-06-25 10:12:18 AM  
What about round-nosed scissors?  Are those allowed?
 
2018-06-25 10:12:25 AM  
I don't see what good a compass would do for a golfer, they're carrying around all those irons and that's sure to mess with the readings.
 
2018-06-25 10:23:47 AM  
OTOH, what good would a compass do?  "yeah, i'm 144 yards away, pin in zone 2, very slight wind......true north is that way, and the sun is near perihelion....relative humidity is 18%, the summer solstice was 3 days ago, sooo......"

golf doesn't work that way.  you don;t need a godamned compass.
 
2018-06-25 10:27:53 AM  
What if the compass was part of a Rambo style survival knife? Do you want to tell him no?

Now this is a knife!
 
2018-06-25 10:52:39 AM  
Most people can't use a compass properly. It's a lost art.
 
2018-06-25 10:55:32 AM  
You'll shoot poke your eye out, kid!
 
2018-06-25 11:03:24 AM  
A physics major using math to improve his golf game? Golf is a game for simple-minded sophisticates, not nerds!
 
2018-06-25 11:05:03 AM  

rickythepenguin: OTOH, what good would a compass do?  "yeah, i'm 144 yards away, pin in zone 2, very slight wind......true north is that way, and the sun is near perihelion....relative humidity is 18%, the summer solstice was 3 days ago, sooo......"

golf doesn't work that way.  you don;t need a godamned compass.


You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2018-06-25 11:08:37 AM  
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2018-06-25 11:14:00 AM  

Schmerd1948: [img.fark.net image 350x350]?


Have some compassion, and let's not get into a protracted argument about this.
 
2018-06-25 11:16:38 AM  

Hills-Sachs_Legion: Schmerd1948: [img.fark.net image 350x350]?

Have some compassion, and let's not get into a protracted argument about this.


This is a circular argument.
 
2018-06-25 11:19:46 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Most people can't use a compass properly. It's a lost art.


I know it's not the compass referenced in the article but this was me a few weeks ago.
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2018-06-25 11:29:33 AM  

wxboy: Hills-Sachs_Legion: Schmerd1948: [img.fark.net image 350x350]?

Have some compassion, and let's not get into a protracted argument about this.

This is a circular argument.


Could you people be any more obtuse?
 
2018-06-25 11:31:07 AM  

FrancoFile: rickythepenguin: OTOH, what good would a compass do?  "yeah, i'm 144 yards away, pin in zone 2, very slight wind......true north is that way, and the sun is near perihelion....relative humidity is 18%, the summer solstice was 3 days ago, sooo......"

golf doesn't work that way.  you don;t need a godamned compass.

You know how I know you didn't read the article?


I read the article, and I still don't get it.

As for what he uses it for?

"Figuring out true pin locations," DeChambeau said. "The pin locations are a little bit off every once in a while, so I'm making sure they're in the exact right spot."


Pin locations are "off" from what? How does a compass "make[ ] sure they're in the exact right spot"? The pins are where they are. Unless the Greenskeeper is a Druid, there's a very high likelihood that the pins are not aligned with magnetic north.
 
2018-06-25 11:38:58 AM  

Uzzah: FrancoFile: rickythepenguin: OTOH, what good would a compass do?  "yeah, i'm 144 yards away, pin in zone 2, very slight wind......true north is that way, and the sun is near perihelion....relative humidity is 18%, the summer solstice was 3 days ago, sooo......"

golf doesn't work that way.  you don;t need a godamned compass.

You know how I know you didn't read the article?

I read the article, and I still don't get it.

As for what he uses it for?

"Figuring out true pin locations," DeChambeau said. "The pin locations are a little bit off every once in a while, so I'm making sure they're in the exact right spot."

Pin locations are "off" from what? How does a compass "make[ ] sure they're in the exact right spot"? The pins are where they are. Unless the Greenskeeper is a Druid, there's a very high likelihood that the pins are not aligned with magnetic north.


I'm guessing that the guy who plays golf for a living may know a bit better than us schlubs how to play the game.
 
2018-06-25 11:40:22 AM  

rickythepenguin: OTOH, what good would a compass do?  "yeah, i'm 144 yards away, pin in zone 2, very slight wind......true north is that way, and the sun is near perihelion....relative humidity is 18%, the summer solstice was 3 days ago, sooo......"

golf doesn't work that way.  you don;t need a godamned compass.


Now a protractor, on the other hand...
 
2018-06-25 11:42:48 AM  

Uzzah: Pin locations are "off" from what? How does a compass "make[ ] sure they're in the exact right spot"? The pins are where they are. Unless the Greenskeeper is a Druid, there's a very high likelihood that the pins are not aligned with magnetic north.


I'm guessing off from the maps they have. Still doesn't make sense to either though. I don't see how you can pinpoint the exact location of the hole with a compass from a hundred or more yards away.  And unless the green is really elevated, you can see the flag.
 
2018-06-25 11:55:25 AM  

Uzzah: Pin locations are "off" from what? How does a compass "make[ ] sure they're in the exact right spot"? The pins are where they are. Unless the Greenskeeper is a Druid, there's a very high likelihood that the pins are not aligned with magnetic north.



and aside from that, courses will say "pins are in zone 1" (usually there are 3 zones).  they don't say "pins are at 33.4735° N, 82.0105° W."   this guy sounds like a silly biatch.  "yeah the pin location is actually 3.87" west by southwest of where the marshal said.  HE SITS ON A THRONE OF LIES!"
 
2018-06-25 11:59:18 AM  

Uzzah: FrancoFile: rickythepenguin: OTOH, what good would a compass do?  "yeah, i'm 144 yards away, pin in zone 2, very slight wind......true north is that way, and the sun is near perihelion....relative humidity is 18%, the summer solstice was 3 days ago, sooo......"

golf doesn't work that way.  you don;t need a godamned compass.

You know how I know you didn't read the article?

I read the article, and I still don't get it.

As for what he uses it for?

"Figuring out true pin locations," DeChambeau said. "The pin locations are a little bit off every once in a while, so I'm making sure they're in the exact right spot."

Pin locations are "off" from what? How does a compass "make[ ] sure they're in the exact right spot"? The pins are where they are. Unless the Greenskeeper is a Druid, there's a very high likelihood that the pins are not aligned with magnetic north.


You may have read the article but I'm pretty confident that you still don't understand it.

Hint: it's not this type of compass:

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2018-06-25 12:08:44 PM  

Cndn Bacon: Hint: it's not this type of compass:


its still silly.  how does he know his yardage book is 100% exactly to scale as the course?  or that his caddie's or his "eyeball test" yardages are accurate?  "whatcha got?"  ".........137."  "No, I think its about.......140.  141."

I've played with this asshole.  Golf Guy.  farkin' golf guy.  "I don't know man, the course marker says 175, I we're sitting at.....I say.........*squints*......178 easy.  maybe even 182, 183.  we're long for sure.  and the wind is coming in at about 10, maybe 12 miles an hour.  I'm thinking a 5. "

he then skulls it, the ball gets 2' off the ground and goes 40 yards.  he then stands there and inspects the clubface and checks his lie.  shoots a 7, 3 putts, and then this asshole says, "put me down for a bogey.  That 3rd shot back there, i never do that.  i'm calling that a bogey."
 
2018-06-25 12:34:05 PM  

rickythepenguin: I've played with this asshole. Golf Guy.  farkin' golf guy.  "I don't know man, the course marker says 175, I we're sitting at.....I say.........*squints*......178 easy.  maybe even 182, 183.  we're long for sure.  and the wind is coming in at about 10, maybe 12 miles an hour.  I'm thinking a 5. "

he then skulls it, the ball gets 2' off the ground and goes 40 yards. he then stands there and inspects the clubface and checks his lie.  shoots a 7, 3 putts, and then this asshole says, "put me down for a bogey.  That 3rd shot back there, i never do that.  i'm calling that a bogey."


Dude, he's a professional golfer. Not just that, he's a pretty good one - he has one win and 7 top-10 finishes in 2018 - so I doubt he's anything like the guy that you've played with. With professional golfers, every yard counts, so if he can figure out hole positions more accurately than his competitors, the what's the problem?

But regardless, who cares why he uses it (besides the PGA)? He thinks it helps his game, he's obviously been successful when using it, and in terms of doing things to get an edge, I find it much more palatable than Phil knocking his ball towards the hole while it was still moving because he'd get an advantage by doing it.
 
2018-06-25 12:51:14 PM  

Cndn Bacon: But regardless, who cares why he uses it (besides the PGA)? He thinks it helps his game, he's obviously been successful when using it, and in terms of doing things to get an edge, I find it much more palatable than Phil knocking his ball towards the hole while it was still moving because he'd get an advantage by doing it.



ultimately i'm with you on this.  if he thinks it helps him - even though i think it's silly for the reasons stated above - and there's nothing stopping other golfers from following suit, lte him do it.  if anything he puts himself into the ballpark of slow play violations, if he's spending too much time going Operation Codename: Cosine Tangent on every hole.  i think its silly, as i said.

his logic would only work if the yardage books were basically USG topo maps.  some caddies at this level draw the course.  so using this level of precision when the yardage book, in all likelihood, isn't topo grade precision, is just.......silly.  but let him waste his time and incur a slow play penalty.  or get lost in his head.  (noting his success, of course).
 
2018-06-25 01:12:59 PM  

Cndn Bacon: I find it much more palatable than Phil knocking his ball towards the hole while it was still moving because he'd get an advantage by doing it


Golf lost all credibility for me when they caught that guy kneeling on a towel to build his stance.

/my world was shattered i tells ya
 
2018-06-25 01:29:31 PM  
They literally show the compass he was using, and still with the cardinal directions? Come on people...
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2018-06-25 01:30:15 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: wxboy: Hills-Sachs_Legion: Schmerd1948: [img.fark.net image 350x350]?

Have some compassion, and let's not get into a protracted argument about this.

This is a circular argument.

Could you people be any more obtuse?


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2018-06-25 01:52:38 PM  
Can this be the new thing?

Why don't they just fire her?

Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.

Why do you need to know your cardinal directions for golf?
 
2018-06-25 02:14:33 PM  
rickythepenguin:
his logic would only work if the yardage books were basically USG topo maps. some caddies at this level draw the course.  so using this level of precision when the yardage book, in all likelihood, isn't topo grade precision, is just.......silly.  but let him waste his time and incur a slow play penalty.  or get lost in his head.  (noting his success, of course).


They are almost exactly that. Each week, the players get a yardage book that has elevations of the fairways and greens in it, the caddies take those books and for 2-3 days they map out every single rise, bump, sprinkler head, and low area on the course. This guy is simply double-checking the people who make up those yardage books.

If you think it's just luck when the pros hit the downhill in fairway for 40 yards more roll, or their approach shots spin sideways towards the hole, then it would seem silly. But all of that is info they've gleaned from those yardage books as well as their practice rounds.
 
2018-06-25 02:17:11 PM  
I'm going to have to research the last kerfuffle he was in over using an illegal center shaft putter in conjunction with a legal side-saddle putting technique.
 
2018-06-25 03:25:49 PM  

kdawg7736: Maybe he wanted to go North....

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Conversely,
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/yes I know it's not that kind of compass
 
2018-06-25 06:32:52 PM  
If he's wearing a wristwatch, throw him out.
 
2018-06-26 05:02:01 AM  
It's all a big misunderstanding.
He was merely using the pencil provided with the compass to mark his scorecard.

Also, this would be far more helpful.  At least on the greens:
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