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(CNN)   That sickening feeling when you realize one of your senators will be in Moscow for the 4th of July   ( amp.cnn.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, Vladimir Putin, Sen. John Kennedy, United States, congressional delegation trip, United States Senate, Republican Sen. John, Republican Sen. Steve, Sen. Richard Shelby  
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2018-06-21 11:08:37 PM  
Well ain't that a pisser?
 
2018-06-21 11:14:56 PM  
"I want to be able to meet with government officials,"

To kiss their asses

"try to establish some rapport, talk about common interest,"

Selling America to those wanting to tear it apart

"talk about common problem."

Mueller
 
2018-06-21 11:16:21 PM  
Shelby described an agenda of "high-level meetings," though he declined to say specifically with whom. He added, "We think it's good for us to talk-

Presumably about a mass defection by the members of the Trump Administration and the Quislings in Congress who remain at large.
 
2018-06-22 12:14:01 AM  
" Shelby described an agenda of 'high-level meetings,' though he declined to say specifically with whom. He added, 'We think it's good for us to talk.' "

"After all, they gave us so much money we should see what else they want."
 
2018-06-22 12:33:20 AM  
Maybe Snowden will let them couch surf at his place for a while.
 
2018-06-22 12:50:27 AM  
So, how many of them are going to come back?
 
2018-06-22 01:42:53 AM  

scottydoesntknow: "talk about common problem."

Mueller


Da. Is good to talk about common problem.
 
2018-06-22 02:15:33 AM  
I guess if you had a terrible learning disability this might upset you.
 
2018-06-22 02:16:12 AM  
The rest of us have known Russia owns our government for several years now.
 
2018-06-22 02:19:39 AM  
well, I guess that would be slightly less damaging than standing on the stage next to Donny as he gets the finger from every last person he makes march past his review stand in that stupid parade of his.
 
2018-06-22 03:18:51 AM  
Funny how it's all Republicans going to this. Preceded by a visit from Jingo Walrus. Ahead of Trump visiting later in July. It's almost as though the Republican Party is beholden to Russia for some reason.
 
2018-06-22 03:20:34 AM  
This delegation was at the invitation of Huntsman, so I don't think it's anything nefarious. Doesn't mean one of those senators couldn't shoe-horn in something extracurricular, but this is probably legit business.
 
2018-06-22 03:21:56 AM  
Forth of July isn't next week subby.
 
2018-06-22 03:29:47 AM  
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Yet pick fights with every single one of our friends and allies around the world. Just lovely, you spineless Russian stooge.
 
2018-06-22 03:34:24 AM  

philodough: [img.fark.net image 425x471]

Yet pick fights with every single one of our friends and allies around the world. Just lovely, you spineless Russian stooge.


"So... Vlad, did you do it?"
"Nyet."
"Well, that's good enough for me. We'll go get on Mueller to call this whole thing off then."
 
2018-06-22 03:35:17 AM  
Allegations of Russian election tampering? Seriously? Allegations? They are actually going with that? But they won't even mention that, because apparently they want the top-shelf vodak and fresh cavier and the sweet, sweet deals this meeting will get them.

ALLEGATION: a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof.

Apparently they are pretending this doesn't exist. Farking cowards.

Opening statement from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence report:

Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow's longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations. We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi​a​/commons/0/0a/ODNI_Statement_on_Declas​sified_Intelligence_Community_Assessme​nt_of_Russian_Activities_and_Intention​s_in_Recent_U.S._Elections.pdf
 
2018-06-22 03:43:49 AM  

JohnnyApocalypse: This delegation was at the invitation of Huntsman, so I don't think it's anything nefarious. Doesn't mean one of those senators couldn't shoe-horn in something extracurricular, but this is probably legit business.


The delegation is an entirely Republican group and is part of several high level visits occurring in the next month featuring members of the administration. Of which Huntsman is a part. This is all embarrassingly transparent cozying up to a foreign government that interfered on their party's behalf in an especially dirty election.

What Republican gives a single solitary fark about diplomacy?
 
2018-06-22 03:47:27 AM  
Makes sense.

Going directly to your handlers eliminates the need for a cutout
 
2018-06-22 03:52:42 AM  

scottydoesntknow: "talk about common problem."

Mueller


....
....
....

God damnit.

That's ACTUALLY probably what he meant....
 
2018-06-22 03:56:08 AM  

JohnnyApocalypse: This delegation was at the invitation of Huntsman, so I don't think it's anything nefarious. Doesn't mean one of those senators couldn't shoe-horn in something extracurricular, but this is probably legit business.


Sure, meeting with the country that actively interfered with our last election four months before the next one is totes legit.

You interested in buying a bridge? 'cause I've got one to sell.
 
2018-06-22 04:08:46 AM  
Not hiding it anymore, i see.
 
2018-06-22 04:18:29 AM  
Knobgobblers.
 
2018-06-22 04:19:24 AM  

doglover: The rest of us have known Russia owns our government for several years now.


Is this the next level of whataboutism? No one had a problem with the Russians when Obama was their puppet?
 
2018-06-22 04:26:05 AM  
Hanlon's Razor says they're just trying to sneak a World Cup match on the US taxpayer's dime.
 
2018-06-22 04:59:31 AM  
...they know we can see them, right?

/and more to the point
//so can Mueller
 
2018-06-22 05:02:17 AM  
Others say. Others say. Others say.

That was possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read.
 
2018-06-22 05:02:56 AM  
They will be treated to only the finest Kompromat ---  Russian prostututes and hidden video cameras --- that money can buy. If you think these senators are smarter than that, you haven't been paying attention.
 
2018-06-22 05:08:06 AM  

stoli n coke: JohnnyApocalypse: This delegation was at the invitation of Huntsman, so I don't think it's anything nefarious. Doesn't mean one of those senators couldn't shoe-horn in something extracurricular, but this is probably legit business.

Sure, meeting with the country that actively interfered with our last election four months before the next one is totes legit.

You interested in buying a bridge? 'cause I've got one to sell.


Can you even begin to imagine the shrieking howls of outrage if a single Democrat, let alone an entire contingent, were to be scheduled to be in Russia on 7/4? We would all suffocate after the blast of conservative screaming blew half the planet's atmosphere off. Not as utterly tonedeaf to optics as Trump meeting Russians alone in the Oval Office after firing Comey and publicly admitting to Obstruction, but that's a high bar to clear. Still, the Russpublicans aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

Case NIGHTMARE ORANGE: You're an American or allied SIGINT or HUMINT person, who either manages to electronically spy on the meeting or learn what was said... its_treason.jpg... who do you tell? What do you do?
 
2018-06-22 05:28:01 AM  
Russia doesn't want to be your friend even if you want it so so bad. Russia has a zero-sum-game approach to foreign relations and as a result believes that there can be only one winner in any interaction.  Unfortunately this is part of their government culture and maybe even the overall culture.

Russia doesn't want to be your friend. They believe that in order to build Russia up they must tear everyone else down.
 
2018-06-22 05:29:33 AM  
Isn't Russia under various sanctions? Do members of governments (not diplomats, but legislators) usually go meet with unspecified individuals in foreign governments that are currently under various sanctions? That seems weird to me. Especially the part where it's all members of one party.
 
2018-06-22 05:30:23 AM  

comrade: Russia doesn't want to be your friend even if you want it so so bad. Russia has a zero-sum-game approach to foreign relations and as a result believes that there can be only one winner in any interaction.  Unfortunately this is part of their government culture and maybe even the overall culture.

Russia doesn't want to be your friend. They believe that in order to build Russia up they must tear everyone else down.


What a coincidence... that's Trumpy's business philosophy.
 
2018-06-22 05:32:06 AM  
"Interest, get your ice-cold interest here, national interest, five dollars only!"
 
2018-06-22 05:35:32 AM  
This is a fascinating article from the CS Monitor on the US-Russia relations.

Click "deep read". For some reason they have two versions of their articles, one for people with ADD, and one that is actual journalism.
 
2018-06-22 05:47:33 AM  

ModernLuddite: This is a fascinating article from the CS Monitor on the US-Russia relations.


I didn't get that much insight from the article, other than that some of the "establishment" figures in both countries are keeping open unofficial dialogue whilst the official channels remain frosty. Did I miss something?
 
2018-06-22 06:25:09 AM  

puffy999: scottydoesntknow: "talk about common problem."

Mueller

....
....
....

God damnit.

That's ACTUALLY probably what he meant....


An how to rig that whole election thing coming up
 
2018-06-22 06:28:23 AM  

philodough: [img.fark.net image 425x471]

Yet pick fights with every single one of our friends and allies around the world. Just lovely, you spineless Russian stooge.


It's Trump who picked those fights, get it straight in your head.

I don't think the present time is good for meeting with Putin, though, because of Crimea and his efforts to undermine Democracy sponsored by the Russian state.

Not a good time.  However, it seems we repeatedly want to give this guy more chances, and Trump has a special affinity for dictators.
 
2018-06-22 06:50:11 AM  

668NeighborOfTheBeast: Forth of July isn't next week subby.


From another article:

The delegation will arrive in St. Petersburg on June 30 and spend time there before heading to the country's capital on July 3 and 4th for meetings with lawmakers, Russian news agency Interfax reported, citing an unnamed official.
 
2018-06-22 06:53:58 AM  
I guess the only question is do we hope for the plane crash before or after the meeting.
 
2018-06-22 07:06:10 AM  
With all of the actual outrages going on at home, a US senator meeting with foreign government officials doesn't even move the needle.
 
2018-06-22 07:13:43 AM  

Rigger1955: Knobgobblers.


Cobknoblers.
 
2018-06-22 07:17:06 AM  

wooden_badger: I guess the only question is do we hope for the plane crash before or after the meeting.


Are u a Russian?
 
2018-06-22 07:26:35 AM  
It's a pretty shiatty timeline when America is sending a congressional delegation to kow-tow to the President's liege-lord.

Everything right wingers do destroys America just a little more, every day.
 
2018-06-22 07:30:20 AM  
To be fair don't we all like to be home for the holidays?
 
2018-06-22 07:53:02 AM  
neongoats:  Everything right wingers do destroys America just a little more, every day.

I bet this asshole eats crackers too.
 
2018-06-22 07:57:53 AM  

GoldSpider: neongoats:  Everything right wingers do destroys America just a little more, every day.

I bet this asshole eats crackers too.


Probably does, while committing or cheering on yet another atrocity. It's what right wingers do.
 
2018-06-22 08:11:55 AM  
I wish more republican senators would go on this trip to Russia.

And stay there.
 
2018-06-22 08:16:57 AM  

erik-k: Case NIGHTMARE ORANGE: You're an American or allied SIGINT or HUMINT person, who either manages to electronically spy on the meeting or learn what was said... its_treason.jpg... who do you tell? What do you do?


Ahem. CASE NIGHTMARE ORANGE. And clearly, a certain person's codename is CHEETO. And what you do is have a REDACTED to REDACTED thus REDACTED and everything's REDACTED.
 
2018-06-22 08:22:54 AM  
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2018-06-22 08:40:07 AM  
Senators are going to visit the leadership of a country that committed an act of war against us by attacking and interfering with our election system.  Is that aiding the enemy?
 
2018-06-22 08:51:54 AM  

Aquapope: Senators are going to visit the leadership of a country that committed an act of war against us by attacking and interfering with our election system.  Is that aiding the enemy?


Except there's no proof.
 
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