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2018-06-20 11:06:10 PM  
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2018-06-21 02:27:42 AM  
Well said.
 
2018-06-21 02:32:12 AM  
Succinct and to the point.
 
2018-06-21 02:33:25 AM  
Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.
 
2018-06-21 02:33:35 AM  
The damages trump is doing right now will take decades to recover from. If it's possible at all.
 
2018-06-21 02:34:05 AM  
So Trump is prepared to fark over Israel in return for a little Putin love? Who didn't see this coming?
 
2018-06-21 02:38:00 AM  
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2018-06-21 02:38:24 AM  
Why replace the "i" with an asterisk?

Oh, that's right, Lewis Black said that word makes them cry.
 
2018-06-21 02:38:32 AM  
Trump: "We're leaving because you say mean things about Isreal."

UN: "And giving up your vote to stop us doing that?"

Trump: "Only the best deals! MAGA!"
 
2018-06-21 02:38:48 AM  
But I thought the whole reason we withdrew was because they were too mean to Israel!

Paddy: The damages trump is doing right now will take decades to recover from. If it's possible at all.


We'll never again have the status we had under Obama, let alone at America's peak, that's for damn sure. And in a way, that's a good thing; we had far more power than any single nation should have.
 
2018-06-21 02:39:43 AM  
Maybe Israel should stop their genocide. That would make the UN much less "anti-Israel"
 
2018-06-21 02:40:27 AM  
 I'm trying to work more profanity into my profrssional life. My goal is to beat a Scorsese film average but on an hourly basis. Am inspired by this tweet.
 
2018-06-21 02:41:04 AM  
Damn those easily foreseen consequences!
 
2018-06-21 02:44:26 AM  
Well when I look for the shining North Star of human rights I look no further than Israel.
 
2018-06-21 02:52:19 AM  
Let Canada in the council to replace the US. They'll give Israel the ol' what for. Eh eh?
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2018-06-21 02:55:56 AM  
<points and laughs>

Maybe you'll think a bit harder next time before backing a raging lunatic.  Meanwhile you're about to get called out on all those settlements on land you stole.

"Ah no, you don't understand. It's very complicated. It's uh it's aggregate, so I'm talking about fractions of a settlement here. And over time they add up to a lot."
"Oh okay. So you're gonna be taking a lot of land, right?"
"Yeah."
"It's not yours?"
"Well, it becomes ours."
"How is that not stealing?"
 
2018-06-21 02:56:50 AM  
There are now three immutable things in the universe:

1. Death.
2. Taxes.
3. Deal with Donnie 'Two Scoops' Trump, you WILL get screwed over.
 
2018-06-21 02:58:06 AM  
Idiots.
 
2018-06-21 03:02:45 AM  
I don't care about Israel.

Used to. Not anymore.
 
2018-06-21 03:04:05 AM  

dericwater: Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.


I think we are getting to the point where we simply do not recognize anything the UN councils do or say and we tell Israel they don't have to listen to the UN either.
 
2018-06-21 03:04:53 AM  
In their infinite stupidity they end up doing something good for once. It's something
 
2018-06-21 03:13:24 AM  
Some of you seem to think this was an unintended consequence.
 
2018-06-21 03:15:23 AM  

pxsteel: dericwater: Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.

I think we are getting to the point where we simply do not recognize anything the UN councils do or say and we tell Israel they don't have to listen to the UN either.


And given your posting history, I'm guessing you think that's a good thing.
 
2018-06-21 03:21:42 AM  

pxsteel: dericwater: Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.

I think we are getting to the point where we simply do not recognize anything the UN councils do or say and we tell Israel they don't have to listen to the UN either.


Israel was listening to the UN?
 
2018-06-21 03:22:16 AM  

LordJiro: pxsteel: dericwater: Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.

I think we are getting to the point where we simply do not recognize anything the UN councils do or say and we tell Israel they don't have to listen to the UN either.

And given your posting history, I'm guessing you think that's a good thing.


Seeing how anti-Semitic the UN HRC has become over the last 20 years.  I surprised Israel has not told them to get farked before now.
 
2018-06-21 03:22:27 AM  
How does Bibi not get more flack at home for not clashing with trump on concentration camps in the us.
 
2018-06-21 03:22:56 AM  

dericwater: Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.


I always liked Netanyahu, at least his first term in the 1990s. I am sorry he has gone to the dark side with I can't say the name, but you are right that anyone who sides with that man is doomed.
 
2018-06-21 03:27:42 AM  

almandot: How does Bibi not get more flack at home for not clashing with trump on concentration camps in the us.


Or our family-separator kissykissyloveface with the dictator that has real concentration camps with whole families imprisoned and permatortured to death if just one person in the family slights the dictator.
 
2018-06-21 03:27:42 AM  

pxsteel: LordJiro: pxsteel: dericwater: Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.

I think we are getting to the point where we simply do not recognize anything the UN councils do or say and we tell Israel they don't have to listen to the UN either.

And given your posting history, I'm guessing you think that's a good thing.

Seeing how anti-Semitic the UN HRC has become over the last 20 years.  I surprised Israel has not told them to get farked before now.


Maybe if Israel would stop with the apartheid, land theft and murder of civilians, the UN wouldn't tell them to stop the apartheid, land theft and murder of civilians. Nobody argues that Hamas are good guys, and they face consequences for their crimes; why doesn't Israel?
 
2018-06-21 03:28:01 AM  
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2018-06-21 03:28:05 AM  
Funny Netanyahu was applauding the move just yesterday.

It's almost as if stroking Trump's ego via Twitter means way more than Foreign Ministry releases or expert opinion.
 
2018-06-21 03:28:28 AM  
Is this one pf the things required for Armageddon?
 
2018-06-21 03:28:59 AM  

Kevin72: I always liked Netanyahu, at least his first term in the 1990s.


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2018-06-21 03:37:05 AM  

almandot: How does Bibi not get more flack at home for not clashing with trump on concentration camps in the us.


Because they're not Jews in the camps. That's why.
 
2018-06-21 03:48:01 AM  

Archie Goodwin: almandot: How does Bibi not get more flack at home for not clashing with trump on concentration camps in the us.

Because they're not Jews in the camps. That's why.


Yet.
 
2018-06-21 03:50:43 AM  

fusillade762: pxsteel: dericwater: Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.

I think we are getting to the point where we simply do not recognize anything the UN councils do or say and we tell Israel they don't have to listen to the UN either.

Israel was listening to the UN?


They listen-- angrily-- when the UN suggests that Palestinians are humans.

When Palestine joined UNESCO a few years back, Israel threw a little hissy fit because the Palestinians soon claimed that the Al-Ibrahimi Mosque over the Cave of the Patriarchs is somehow a historic site under threat. Only just because of the wacko militant Jewish settlers with submachineguns who roam the streets at will around the place, protected by the IDF who have erected concrete barriers and steel turnstile checkpoints right down the middle of Hebron, some of which even the Supreme Court of Israel has ruled illegal.

The nerve of some people.
 
2018-06-21 04:01:12 AM  

Paddy: The damages trump is doing right now will take decades to recover from. If it's possible at all.


It's not Trump himself that's doing the lasting damage. What Trump is breaking could be fixed again in relatively short order. The problem is that the world is watching Trump break shiat to such limited opposition in America. Watching and wondering if it's really worth rebuilding deep relations with the US because of the probability the US will again elect another asshat next decade who goes right back to breaking shiat.

Trump has exposed fundamental weaknesses in American politics; he has overwhelmed many of the defensive structures that should constrain one person from taking so many damaging actions. It certainly doesn't help that so many of those defences are currently manned by utterly servile Republicans, but then that's part of the wider problem. We all saw how quickly the US went back to electing Republicans after the disasters of the Bush era. There's no trust that the Trump era won't be treated exactly the same, that the coming 'blue wave' won't just quickly subside and be replaced shortly afterwards by ever more destructive right-wingers.

Recovery is achievable, but it requires far more than just getting Trump out of office. Democrats have to start turning out in big numbers at every election - midterms, state, local, dogcatcher, schoolboard and whatever else they can vote on. Not just turn out for one big swing election, expect everything to be fixed and not bother again until things have once again fallen apart. 2008 Obama had the right message 'Yes We Can', but too many Americans didn't seem to realise the 'we' bit meant they had to stay involved throughout, not just leave it to Obama.
 
2018-06-21 04:04:16 AM  

Voxper: Only just because of the wacko militant Jewish settlers with submachineguns who roam the streets at will around the place, protected by the IDF who have erected concrete barriers and steel turnstile checkpoints right down the middle of Hebron


What happened at the Tomb of Jonah? Or Nineveh? Or Palmyra? Did the Muslim militants place checkpoints around them?
 
2018-06-21 04:04:30 AM  

And I've just finished my milk: Paddy: The damages trump is doing right now will take decades to recover from. If it's possible at all.

It's not Trump himself that's doing the lasting damage. What Trump is breaking could be fixed again in relatively short order. The problem is that the world is watching Trump break shiat to such limited opposition in America. Watching and wondering if it's really worth rebuilding deep relations with the US because of the probability the US will again elect another asshat next decade who goes right back to breaking shiat.

Trump has exposed fundamental weaknesses in American politics; he has overwhelmed many of the defensive structures that should constrain one person from taking so many damaging actions. It certainly doesn't help that so many of those defences are currently manned by utterly servile Republicans, but then that's part of the wider problem. We all saw how quickly the US went back to electing Republicans after the disasters of the Bush era. There's no trust that the Trump era won't be treated exactly the same, that the coming 'blue wave' won't just quickly subside and be replaced shortly afterwards by ever more destructive right-wingers.

Recovery is achievable, but it requires far more than just getting Trump out of office. Democrats have to start turning out in big numbers at every election - midterms, state, local, dogcatcher, schoolboard and whatever else they can vote on. Not just turn out for one big swing election, expect everything to be fixed and not bother again until things have once again fallen apart. 2008 Obama had the right message 'Yes We Can', but too many Americans didn't seem to realise the 'we' bit meant they had to stay involved throughout, not just leave it to Obama.


And.  And.If the Democrats can take office in sufficient numbers, enacting legislation that curtails what has become the unilateral power of the executive branch.  Otherwise it's all just glad handing until you get the next person in power that no one wants to stop.  Quit assuming the power will be fine as long as you 'keep the wrong person' out of the office.
 
2018-06-21 04:11:06 AM  

Alien Robot: Voxper: Only just because of the wacko militant Jewish settlers with submachineguns who roam the streets at will around the place, protected by the IDF who have erected concrete barriers and steel turnstile checkpoints right down the middle of Hebron

What happened at the Tomb of Jonah? Or Nineveh? Or Palmyra? Did the Muslim militants place checkpoints around them?


Remind me how ISIS feels about Hamas?
 
2018-06-21 04:31:05 AM  

Paddy: The damages trump is doing right now will take decades to recover from. If it's possible at all.


Government and society are always changing. Sometimes it is more visible than others. The only question is who is most effective at guiding that change.

What we see today has been building since the '60s and '70s, largely under the radar. Either we will turn the tide on the fascism or not, but what has been done is a part of our story. The question is what will the next period of faux stability look like? Rebuilding will commence but it will never be the same. The river flows, ever-changing under the bridge we stand on. It is up to us to determine the new shape of things. But it will never be the same. It can't be.
 
2018-06-21 04:35:25 AM  

pxsteel: LordJiro: pxsteel: dericwater: Now, Bibi will feel the wrath of being on the side of Trump.

I think we are getting to the point where we simply do not recognize anything the UN councils do or say and we tell Israel they don't have to listen to the UN either.

And given your posting history, I'm guessing you think that's a good thing.

Seeing how anti-Semitic the UN HRC has become over the last 20 years.  I surprised Israel has not told them to get farked before now.


Maybe israeli soldeirs should stop doing things like "Intentionally shooting medics *through the marker identifying them as medics*.
 
2018-06-21 04:48:39 AM  

LordJiro: Alien Robot: Voxper: Only just because of the wacko militant Jewish settlers with submachineguns who roam the streets at will around the place, protected by the IDF who have erected concrete barriers and steel turnstile checkpoints right down the middle of Hebron

What happened at the Tomb of Jonah? Or Nineveh? Or Palmyra? Did the Muslim militants place checkpoints around them?

Remind me how ISIS feels about Hamas?


Or how Israel feels about promoting Wahhabism and using ISIS talking points.
 
2018-06-21 04:55:23 AM  

Alien Robot: Voxper: Only just because of the wacko militant Jewish settlers with submachineguns who roam the streets at will around the place, protected by the IDF who have erected concrete barriers and steel turnstile checkpoints right down the middle of Hebron

What happened at the Tomb of Jonah? Or Nineveh? Or Palmyra? Did the Muslim militants place checkpoints around them?


Are those in the West Bank too?

No? Then I guess that answers your whatabouting.
 
2018-06-21 05:09:50 AM  
America First!
 
2018-06-21 05:13:18 AM  
Brevity is wit.

Mike_Lowell notwithstanding
 
2018-06-21 05:32:18 AM  

fragMasterFlash: So Trump is prepared to fark over Israel in return for a little Putin love? Who didn't see this coming?


I don't know if it is Putin love this time, so much as he's responsible for hundreds of kids likely to never be reunited with their parents because he just acted, as he always does, without a plan (like, you know, something as simple as putting scannable hospital bracelets on to match up families - the way they do with babies and mothers in hospitals when they are born) or keeping any sort of records. That's probably what this is about more than anything.

I mean, it obviously has nothing to do with the treatment of Israel, because if the HRC was so anti-Israel, why wouldn't the US stay involved to call out the council for being to harsh? If that was actually the case?  (Sorry, I don't blindly support Israel - they have committed atrocities against the Palestinian people, who are no angels, but it's hard to blame them entirely. Both sides actually are in the wrong, though Israel has a hell of a lot more power than the Palestinians) But I digress. If you feel an ally or friend is being wronged, do you walk away from the table or do you stay and fight?

This is all about not being called out any more than he's already been for what he is doing at the border.
 
2018-06-21 05:38:46 AM  

And I've just finished my milk: Paddy: The damages trump is doing right now will take decades to recover from. If it's possible at all.

It's not Trump himself that's doing the lasting damage. What Trump is breaking could be fixed again in relatively short order. The problem is that the world is watching Trump break shiat to such limited opposition in America. Watching and wondering if it's really worth rebuilding deep relations with the US because of the probability the US will again elect another asshat next decade who goes right back to breaking shiat.

Trump has exposed fundamental weaknesses in American politics; he has overwhelmed many of the defensive structures that should constrain one person from taking so many damaging actions. It certainly doesn't help that so many of those defences are currently manned by utterly servile Republicans, but then that's part of the wider problem. We all saw how quickly the US went back to electing Republicans after the disasters of the Bush era. There's no trust that the Trump era won't be treated exactly the same, that the coming 'blue wave' won't just quickly subside and be replaced shortly afterwards by ever more destructive right-wingers.

Recovery is achievable, but it requires far more than just getting Trump out of office. Democrats have to start turning out in big numbers at every election - midterms, state, local, dogcatcher, schoolboard and whatever else they can vote on. Not just turn out for one big swing election, expect everything to be fixed and not bother again until things have once again fallen apart. 2008 Obama had the right message 'Yes We Can', but too many Americans didn't seem to realise the 'we' bit meant they had to stay involved throughout, not just leave it to Obama.


In a way I think this is a bit of a reality check for the world, or at least the West.  We as a whole would be much stronger if there wasn't one kingpin around which everything else revolves.  As has recently been demonstrated the whole system can fall apart if that kingpin fails, and that makes it a massive target.  The whole would be much stronger if we were a set of roughly equivalent interlocking pieces instead, without a single point of failure.
 
2018-06-21 05:57:15 AM  

Magnifico Giganticus: In a way I think this is a bit of a reality check for the world, or at least the West. We as a whole would be much stronger if there wasn't one kingpin around which everything else revolves. As has recently been demonstrated the whole system can fall apart if that kingpin fails, and that makes it a massive target. The whole would be much stronger if we were a set of roughly equivalent interlocking pieces instead, without a single point of failure.


Something like, oh, I don't know, a United Nations?
 
2018-06-21 06:03:04 AM  
The US has a lot of sins to answer for, but its assessment of the UNHRC was basically spot-on. And by leaving, it's going to make it even worse.
 
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