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2018-06-18 01:24:29 PM  
I heard about this, but that's the first I've seen the video.* That was awesome.

*because golf is just croquet that uses more natural resources.
 
2018-06-18 07:21:49 PM  
I admire his attitude about it
"yea, I know the rules - it's a 2-stroke penalty, I don't care how you feel - deal with it"

People are acting like he's somehow going to make golf cease to be - because he hit a moving ball.

He should \just start trolling now and claim Enbrel made him do it
 
2018-06-18 08:05:22 PM  

HighlanderRPI: I admire his attitude about it
"yea, I know the rules - it's a 2-stroke penalty, I don't care how you feel - deal with it"

People are acting like he's somehow going to make golf cease to be - because he hit a moving ball.

He should \just start trolling now and claim Enbrel made him do it


imagine this kind of attitude in hockey: "Capitals forfeit because of Wilson's cross-check."
 
2018-06-18 10:17:07 PM  
    I work at a course where nobody can be bothered to fix ball marks, repair divots or rake bunkers....Phil's transgression pales in comparison to the behavior of people not fit for the muni....
 
2018-06-18 10:19:51 PM  

New Age Redneck: I work at a course where nobody can be bothered to fix ball marks, repair divots or rake bunkers....Phil's transgression pales in comparison to the behavior of people not fit for the muni....


you ever see a pro fix a ball mark or repair a divot?
 
2018-06-18 10:24:47 PM  

mjbok: New Age Redneck: I work at a course where nobody can be bothered to fix ball marks, repair divots or rake bunkers....Phil's transgression pales in comparison to the behavior of people not fit for the muni....

you ever see a pro fix a ball mark or repair a divot?


That's what caddies are for,
 
2018-06-18 10:25:40 PM  

phamwaa: mjbok: New Age Redneck: I work at a course where nobody can be bothered to fix ball marks, repair divots or rake bunkers....Phil's transgression pales in comparison to the behavior of people not fit for the muni....

you ever see a pro fix a ball mark or repair a divot?

That's what caddies are for,


And I see there's a divot in my period.
 
2018-06-18 10:33:51 PM  

She comes in colors everywhere: HighlanderRPI: I admire his attitude about it
"yea, I know the rules - it's a 2-stroke penalty, I don't care how you feel - deal with it"

People are acting like he's somehow going to make golf cease to be - because he hit a moving ball.

He should \just start trolling now and claim Enbrel made him do it

imagine this kind of attitude in hockey: "Capitals forfeit because of Wilson's cross-check."


No it'd be more like "Capitals waive Wilson."
 
2018-06-18 10:45:10 PM  
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2018-06-18 11:09:42 PM  
Come on, Phil.  Tiger kept playing with a broken leg, bad back, and getting 69's from waitresses.
 
2018-06-18 11:14:45 PM  
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2018-06-18 11:20:45 PM  
I love how the general attitude is "Phil gonna Phil", "oh he didn't affect the top 5 or even 20" and so on......had Tiger / Rory / Sergio done this?  jesus christ.  "no respect for the game", "another display of clueless arrogance", "more prima donna behavior" etc.

I'm a very casual golf viewer, i haven't played a round period in probably 3-4 years, but.......that should have been a DQ.  If Johnny Slapnuts, fresh out of Q-school, does this in the Subway Carmax CenturyLink Invitational in March, he gets DQ'd.  Philip, on US Open saturday?  Come on man.
 
2018-06-18 11:26:55 PM  

rickythepenguin: I love how the general attitude is "Phil gonna Phil", "oh he didn't affect the top 5 or even 20" and so on......had Tiger / Rory / Sergio done this?  jesus christ.  "no respect for the game", "another display of clueless arrogance", "more prima donna behavior" etc.

I'm a very casual golf viewer, i haven't played a round period in probably 3-4 years, but.......that should have been a DQ.  If Johnny Slapnuts, fresh out of Q-school, does this in the Subway Carmax CenturyLink Invitational in March, he gets DQ'd.  Philip, on US Open saturday?  Come on man.


Get over yourself.
 
2018-06-18 11:31:31 PM  

The Smails Kid: Get over yourself.


......No!
 
2018-06-18 11:36:31 PM  

rickythepenguin: The Smails Kid: Get over yourself.

......No!


I concede the point.
 
2018-06-18 11:38:34 PM  

rickythepenguin: I love how the general attitude is "Phil gonna Phil", "oh he didn't affect the top 5 or even 20" and so on......had Tiger / Rory / Sergio done this?  jesus christ.  "no respect for the game", "another display of clueless arrogance", "more prima donna behavior" etc.

I'm a very casual golf viewer, i haven't played a round period in probably 3-4 years, but.......that should have been a DQ.  If Johnny Slapnuts, fresh out of Q-school, does this in the Subway Carmax CenturyLink Invitational in March, he gets DQ'd.  Philip, on US Open saturday?  Come on man.


Well A, he isn't, and B, it's a tacit acknowledgment that he had every right to be frustrated with that course. he just spoke for all the other players who got shafted by the bad choices on the course.
 
2018-06-18 11:41:47 PM  
Up until his Waffle House addiction came to light nobody said shiat about Tiger throwing clubs, swearing loudly in the course, etc.
 
2018-06-19 12:12:12 AM  

saintstryfe: he just spoke for all the other players who got shafted by the bad choices on the course.


wait....the room is spinning......someone grab my fainting couch......you're, i guess, saying that somehow, the USGA makes the US Open into a "let's make the 0.00089 percent of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite golfers, look like a bunch of muni track golfers?"  why did no one tell me?

it was an egregious rule violation.  in the navy, in a shiatty scramble tourney, about my literal 2nd, 4th outing, i took some honest to god practice swings in a sand trap, taking chunks out the trap.  after i got out, an officer in the foursome pulled me aside and asked how long i'd been playing.  i said just a few rounds here and there.  he said he had grounds, pardon the pun, to disqualify me or assess me the two stroke, what the fark, penalty times 2, 3, 4 swings i had, for grounding my club in a trap.   no one told me you couldn't do that.

nice that some slapdick tourney on Oceana NAB polices golf more than the USGA on a major.  enhhhh.
 
2018-06-19 12:30:24 AM  

rickythepenguin: saintstryfe: he just spoke for all the other players who got shafted by the bad choices on the course.

wait....the room is spinning......someone grab my fainting couch......you're, i guess, saying that somehow, the USGA makes the US Open into a "let's make the 0.00089 percent of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite golfers, look like a bunch of muni track golfers?"  why did no one tell me?

it was an egregious rule violation.  in the navy, in a shiatty scramble tourney, about my literal 2nd, 4th outing, i took some honest to god practice swings in a sand trap, taking chunks out the trap.  after i got out, an officer in the foursome pulled me aside and asked how long i'd been playing.  i said just a few rounds here and there.  he said he had grounds, pardon the pun, to disqualify me or assess me the two stroke, what the fark, penalty times 2, 3, 4 swings i had, for grounding my club in a trap.   no one told me you couldn't do that.

nice that some slapdick tourney on Oceana NAB polices golf more than the USGA on a major.  enhhhh.


So you think an officer in a foursome (giggity) twenty-something years ago knew the rules better than the tournament officials at the US Open?

Get over yourself.
 
2018-06-19 12:31:05 AM  

rickythepenguin: saintstryfe: he just spoke for all the other players who got shafted by the bad choices on the course.

wait....the room is spinning......someone grab my fainting couch......you're, i guess, saying that somehow, the USGA makes the US Open into a "let's make the 0.00089 percent of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite golfers, look like a bunch of muni track golfers?"  why did no one tell me?

it was an egregious rule violation.  in the navy, in a shiatty scramble tourney, about my literal 2nd, 4th outing, i took some honest to god practice swings in a sand trap, taking chunks out the trap.  after i got out, an officer in the foursome pulled me aside and asked how long i'd been playing.  i said just a few rounds here and there.  he said he had grounds, pardon the pun, to disqualify me or assess me the two stroke, what the fark, penalty times 2, 3, 4 swings i had, for grounding my club in a trap.   no one told me you couldn't do that.

nice that some slapdick tourney on Oceana NAB polices golf more than the USGA on a major.  enhhhh.


Hefty-Thefty apologists are like the golf version of the stupid redneck in this:

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/"Phil is the everyman's golfer"
//LOL
 
2018-06-19 12:40:04 AM  
Suck it FIGJAM. It was a total biatch move
 
2018-06-19 12:41:29 AM  

The Smails Kid: So you think an officer in a foursome (giggity) twenty-something years ago knew the rules better than the tournament officials at the US Open?


.......Yes!

The Smails Kid: Get over yourself.


.........No!
 
2018-06-19 12:42:15 AM  

The Smails Kid: rickythepenguin: I love how the general attitude is "Phil gonna Phil", "oh he didn't affect the top 5 or even 20" and so on......had Tiger / Rory / Sergio done this?  jesus christ.  "no respect for the game", "another display of clueless arrogance", "more prima donna behavior" etc.

I'm a very casual golf viewer, i haven't played a round period in probably 3-4 years, but.......that should have been a DQ.  If Johnny Slapnuts, fresh out of Q-school, does this in the Subway Carmax CenturyLink Invitational in March, he gets DQ'd.  Philip, on US Open saturday?  Come on man.

Get over yourself.


user name checks out
 
2018-06-19 06:07:26 AM  
Soooooooooo people were angry Phil did his thing and didn't get disqualified.

But, when the USGA (the makers of the rules) enforce their interpretation of the rules, they're still angry?
 
2018-06-19 06:28:18 AM  

rickythepenguin: saintstryfe: he just spoke for all the other players who got shafted by the bad choices on the course.

wait....the room is spinning......someone grab my fainting couch......you're, i guess, saying that somehow, the USGA makes the US Open into a "let's make the 0.00089 percent of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite golfers, look like a bunch of muni track golfers?"  why did no one tell me?

it was an egregious rule violation.  in the navy, in a shiatty scramble tourney, about my literal 2nd, 4th outing, i took some honest to god practice swings in a sand trap, taking chunks out the trap.  after i got out, an officer in the foursome pulled me aside and asked how long i'd been playing.  i said just a few rounds here and there.  he said he had grounds, pardon the pun, to disqualify me or assess me the two stroke, what the fark, penalty times 2, 3, 4 swings i had, for grounding my club in a trap.   no one told me you couldn't do that.

nice that some slapdick tourney on Oceana NAB polices golf more than the USGA on a major.  enhhhh.


I mean, you were f*cking up the course for everyone.

Mickelson didn't damage the course, took the penalty for his actions, and really, who the f*ck cares, besides dumbass golf fans? And yes, there were people calling for him to be suspended from the tour over it.

Knowing that this is the rule, though, he should've hustled to backstop the ball directly into the hole from an inch away.

When a dude puts up a 10 on a hole and still finishes in the Top 50...your course might be f*ckin' dumb.

I also don't understand how golf fans work with their "I love to see professionals look terrible." This happens in 0 other sports...maybe NL baseball fans like watching pitchers flail around at the plate, I guess, is the closest thing?
 
2018-06-19 11:05:07 AM  

IAmRight: rickythepenguin: saintstryfe: he just spoke for all the other players who got shafted by the bad choices on the course.

wait....the room is spinning......someone grab my fainting couch......you're, i guess, saying that somehow, the USGA makes the US Open into a "let's make the 0.00089 percent of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite golfers, look like a bunch of muni track golfers?"  why did no one tell me?

it was an egregious rule violation.  in the navy, in a shiatty scramble tourney, about my literal 2nd, 4th outing, i took some honest to god practice swings in a sand trap, taking chunks out the trap.  after i got out, an officer in the foursome pulled me aside and asked how long i'd been playing.  i said just a few rounds here and there.  he said he had grounds, pardon the pun, to disqualify me or assess me the two stroke, what the fark, penalty times 2, 3, 4 swings i had, for grounding my club in a trap.   no one told me you couldn't do that.

nice that some slapdick tourney on Oceana NAB polices golf more than the USGA on a major.  enhhhh.

I mean, you were f*cking up the course for everyone.

Mickelson didn't damage the course, took the penalty for his actions, and really, who the f*ck cares, besides dumbass golf fans? And yes, there were people calling for him to be suspended from the tour over it.

Knowing that this is the rule, though, he should've hustled to backstop the ball directly into the hole from an inch away.

When a dude puts up a 10 on a hole and still finishes in the Top 50...your course might be f*ckin' dumb.

I also don't understand how golf fans work with their "I love to see professionals look terrible." This happens in 0 other sports...maybe NL baseball fans like watching pitchers flail around at the plate, I guess, is the closest thing?


Golf is the only sport where we intentionally alter the playing location to make the professionals play differently and it's dumb.  It's like putting boulders and ice patches randomly on a football field and then periodically the ref throws in a ball covered in KY.  People are happy to watch pros play on the same baseball/football etc field as they did and can watch in awe of their abilities.  Not so in golf.  Make em "earn" it.  LOL
 
2018-06-19 11:05:39 AM  

IAmRight: rickythepenguin: saintstryfe: he just spoke for all the other players who got shafted by the bad choices on the course.

wait....the room is spinning......someone grab my fainting couch......you're, i guess, saying that somehow, the USGA makes the US Open into a "let's make the 0.00089 percent of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite of the elite golfers, look like a bunch of muni track golfers?"  why did no one tell me?

it was an egregious rule violation.  in the navy, in a shiatty scramble tourney, about my literal 2nd, 4th outing, i took some honest to god practice swings in a sand trap, taking chunks out the trap.  after i got out, an officer in the foursome pulled me aside and asked how long i'd been playing.  i said just a few rounds here and there.  he said he had grounds, pardon the pun, to disqualify me or assess me the two stroke, what the fark, penalty times 2, 3, 4 swings i had, for grounding my club in a trap.   no one told me you couldn't do that.

nice that some slapdick tourney on Oceana NAB polices golf more than the USGA on a major.  enhhhh.

I mean, you were f*cking up the course for everyone.

Mickelson didn't damage the course, took the penalty for his actions, and really, who the f*ck cares, besides dumbass golf fans? And yes, there were people calling for him to be suspended from the tour over it.

Knowing that this is the rule, though, he should've hustled to backstop the ball directly into the hole from an inch away.

When a dude puts up a 10 on a hole and still finishes in the Top 50...your course might be f*ckin' dumb.

I also don't understand how golf fans work with their "I love to see professionals look terrible." This happens in 0 other sports...maybe NL baseball fans like watching pitchers flail around at the plate, I guess, is the closest thing?


The DH is an abomination.  An ABOMINATION!!!
 
2018-06-19 11:27:56 AM  

IAmRight: I mean, you were f*cking up the course for everyone.


no, i did have the knowledge to rake the trap after you're in it.  I just didn't know you can't ground your club in a trap.  this being, like i said, my 2nd, 3rd whatever outing, period, the guy that was basically teaching me the game insisted, "take a shiatload of practice swings, before every swing, get that muscle memory working."  i'm in the beach, i'm taking practice swings.  then i got scolded.  but i wasn't hacking up the course, taking divots on the green and so on.  *shrug*
 
2018-06-19 11:51:38 AM  

rickythepenguin: IAmRight: I mean, you were f*cking up the course for everyone.

no, i did have the knowledge to rake the trap after you're in it.  I just didn't know you can't ground your club in a trap.  this being, like i said, my 2nd, 3rd whatever outing, period, the guy that was basically teaching me the game insisted, "take a shiatload of practice swings, before every swing, get that muscle memory working."  i'm in the beach, i'm taking practice swings.  then i got scolded.  but i wasn't hacking up the course, taking divots on the green and so on.  *shrug*


Your situation happens every single day. People who are just starting out in golf are unaware of the myriad of rules it has to keep the game fair for everyone. What Phil did was hit a moving ball to keep it from running 30 yards off the green because the cup was at a point on the green where if your ball doesn't go in the hole from where his ball started, it was off into the fairway. It was a dick move to be sure, but he knew the repercussions would be a 2-stroke penalty, and he concluded he would save a few shots and probably 5 minutes by hitting it while it was still moving. A DQ would have been on the grounds of something along the lines of "unsportsmanlike conduct", which I thought was what would happen.

The hole location on that green wasn't fair to the field because the USGA did not consider the weather factor. That happened on more than a few holes, and they admitted it. Phil made a dick move, probably saved a few strokes, and probably dropped a few notches in the eyes of a lot of fans. Seems like everyone lost out on that whole deal.
 
2018-06-19 12:04:46 PM  

snowybunting: The hole location on that green wasn't fair to the field because the USGA did not consider the weather factor. That happened on more than a few holes, and they admitted it. Phil made a dick move, probably saved a few strokes, and probably dropped a few notches in the eyes of a lot of fans. Seems like everyone lost out on that whole deal.


pretty sure it was the US Open 5-6 years ago where the course was dry as fark, the greens were like basketball courts and scores were soaring.  then in the mid afternoon, the groundskeepers were directed to water the shiat out of the greens.  I remember seeing one of the golfers losing his shiat as he had just putted the green.  he was pissed that the USGA was sponging the greens, after he had probably just, whatever, 4  putted.
 
2018-06-19 12:13:47 PM  
If he was as smart as he thinks he is, he would have let it roll out, declared it unplayable, and replaced it on the green within two clubs lengths (no closer to the hole) for only a one stroke penalty and perhaps a more forgiving angle.
 
2018-06-19 12:16:17 PM  

rickythepenguin: snowybunting: The hole location on that green wasn't fair to the field because the USGA did not consider the weather factor. That happened on more than a few holes, and they admitted it. Phil made a dick move, probably saved a few strokes, and probably dropped a few notches in the eyes of a lot of fans. Seems like everyone lost out on that whole deal.

pretty sure it was the US Open 5-6 years ago where the course was dry as fark, the greens were like basketball courts and scores were soaring.  then in the mid afternoon, the groundskeepers were directed to water the shiat out of the greens.  I remember seeing one of the golfers losing his shiat as he had just putted the green.  he was pissed that the USGA was sponging the greens, after he had probably just, whatever, 4  putted.


I've seen them water greens in regular tournaments, not in the US Open, but it's definitely possible. After the debacle in 2004 at Shinnecock where the USGA actually burned the greens up by cutting them so close and not watering, you'd think they'd learn. They are so intent on having the winner of *their* tournament be the "best" player, it appears they sometimes lose sight on what is fair. I think tight fairways, heavy rough, and fast but fair greens would be the ultimate test, but more often than not it comes down to who can luckbox the most par putts on greens cut so close and tight they're like bathtubs.
 
2018-06-19 12:35:29 PM  

snowybunting: I've seen them water greens in regular tournaments, not in the US Open, but it's definitely possible. After the debacle in 2004 at Shinnecock where the USGA actually burned the greens up by cutting them so close and not watering, you'd think they'd learn


I'm 99% certain it was the Open.  I'm not a huge golf viewer, i basically only watch the Majors.  I know it wasn't Augusta or the British, and I generally DGAF about the player's championship or whatever the last major is.  im certain it was the US.
 
2018-06-19 12:41:43 PM  

snowybunting: he knew the repercussions would be a 2-stroke penalty, and he concluded he would save a few shots


I only know sailing rules (and I ain't great at that), but does golf not have a Rule #1 (or, for the racing rules of sailing, Rule 2, but Rule 1 (safety) doesn't really apply to walking around on a lawn):  Play in a sportsmanlike manner?  That is, if breaking the rule *intentionally* gains you more than the penalty for a -transgression-,  the rule being broken is not the minor infraction, but much more fundamental, with a MUCH harsher penalty?  Or is it officially okey-dokey to break the rules to gain in the big picture?  'cuz that seems shiatty, *especially* with how "OMG! We're SO gentlemanly!" golfers portray themselves as....

rickythepenguin: nice that some slapdick tourney on Oceana NAB polices golf more than the USGA on a major


Perhaps that says nice things about the Navy, and not so nice things about golfers / the USGA.

If there's -any- validity to the "golf is a gentleman's game" bs, Mr. Mickelson should have retired; when he didn't, officials should have tossed him.  Since they didn't...

/ not a big fan of golf, but a huge fan of playing by the rules... which has cost me plenty of race positions, but I can sleep at night
 
2018-06-19 01:40:50 PM  

SFSailor: Perhaps that says nice things about the Navy, and not so nice things about golfers / the USGA.


weird memory i have.  me and this huge LCDR were in one cart, my "mentor" and his pal the other, for the foursome.  I was on the beach as I said, and i took my 3,4,5 whatever swings.  after i hit and got out (and raked it up as i said) he, with like, not anger, but ....some knid of ruffled feathers, was like, "you know, you could be disqualified or blah blah blah, that's a 2 stroke penalty per swing, so you're hitting your 14th shot coming up."  he was like, offended, i guess, that i didn't know that specific rule.  hey man, sorry, i wasn't raised in the sport.  and it's godamn Oceana naval track, it isn't Augusta National.  chill the fark out buddy!
 
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