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2018-05-29 9:11:46 AM  
I liked it.
 
2018-05-29 9:33:39 AM  

BalugaJoe: I liked it.


The sad part is that this will be the most insightful and well-argued post in the entire thread.
 
2018-05-29 9:42:15 AM  
The wife doesn't want to go with me to see this, so I guess you could say I'm going...(puts on sunglasses)...by myself.
 
2018-05-29 9:42:25 AM  

Mike_LowELL: BalugaJoe: I liked it.

The sad part is that this will be the most insightful and well-argued post in the entire thread.


You would be punctilious in assuming that
 
2018-05-29 9:42:29 AM  
I'm interested to see if how much of a fall-off there is to the next week. Solo started out on its back foot because it isn't a story that fans initially wanted to see and because of rumors of the various developmental fiascos. So there were a lot of people with reservations about seeing it.

But it's an enjoyable piece of entertainment. Word of mouth may draw in the people who were skeptical next weekend.
 
2018-05-29 9:42:38 AM  

BalugaJoe: I liked it.


I liked it too. It wasn't perfect but it was definitely good. I'd probably have liked it more if it didn't have such strong competition since I'd just seen Infinity War and Deadpool 2.

There's a huge number of people out there pissed off beyond all reason that the EU was thrown away and the new movies aren't what they wanted. Of course, they all wanted slightly different things so they were always going to be disappointed anyway.

Disney is building a cinematic universe out of what had been a single, very popular, story. There's going to be growing pains, and haters who wanted nothing but the old stories... but I think it's going to work out well.

Plus I've taken up acting, so  the more Star Wars movies there are the better my chances of getting to be a Jedi some day! ;)
 
2018-05-29 9:42:53 AM  
i don't get the hate. Went to an 8pm show last night. The theater was empty 10 minutes before start when we got there.

it was a good movie. The guy that played Han had all the moves and swagger that Ford had.

but Christ, for all those who are pissed he's not the "f*ck the universe" rogue that we met in ANH, he's a young, arrogant upstart. The bitterness has only begun. And frankly, he pulls it off well.

and the Han/Chewie shower scene was great.

/Lando was spot on
//even the voice, i had to make sure they didn't overdub with Billy Dee Williams
 
2018-05-29 9:43:46 AM  
Can't wait until the movie about the weed-smoking rastafarian who fuels the Millenium Falcon (you didn't see it because it was off camera while the MULTIPASS movie was going on).
 
2018-05-29 9:44:05 AM  
"Will Solo's abysmal box office draw force Disney to rethink their oversaturated Star Wars strategy? No"

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2018-05-29 9:45:04 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Can't wait until the movie about the weed-smoking rastafarian who fuels the Millenium Falcon (you didn't see it because it was off camera while the MULTIPASS movie was going on).


Fifth Element - WE NEED SOME HEAT HERE MAN!
Youtube kVaU0UOZozI
 
2018-05-29 9:45:16 AM  
Man, there are some serious whining bastards. It did the highest box office for the weekend, and competing against both DP2 and Infinity War still in theaters.

It wasn't going to be a blockbuster, as that's not the focus of the film. It's a solid, well written, funny, and otherwise enjoyable backstory to the Han Solo character. It was actually done a little safer than I expected, but especially the interplay with Lando was awesome (Donald Glover needs his movie, stat)

There's a lot of butthurt fanboys upset that Disney continues to expand the SW universe. It's gonna happen, and they've been a hell of a lot more respectful of the franchise than Lucas was with the goddamn Prequels himself.

Lighten up, Francis.
 
2018-05-29 9:45:21 AM  

Mike_LowELL: BalugaJoe: I liked it.

The sad part is that this will be the most insightful and well-argued post in the entire thread.


The Red Letter Media review just came out.
 
2018-05-29 9:45:26 AM  
I chalk this one up to bad marketing, and the lesson is that Star Wars doesn't market itself.

The trailers were pretty vague with what the movie was about - they just showed us that Han, Chewie and Lando were in it, as well as the Falcon. No mention of who the bad guy is and what's at stake if he wins. And the visuals featured in the trailers were a bit underwhelming (whereas the Rogue One trailers had some really beautiful shots that weren't even in the final cut).
 
2018-05-29 9:46:02 AM  
$tar War$

 
2018-05-29 9:46:40 AM  
First Star Wars movie I haven't seen in theaters. I just...don't care. Han Solo was not in need of his own prequel. Tell me new stories and do new things. Don't just write high-budget fan fiction. My favorite of the Disney set is Last Jedi though, so take this opinion with the appropriate grain of salt.
 
2018-05-29 9:46:49 AM  

DecemberNitro: SockMonkeyHolocaust: Can't wait until the movie about the weed-smoking rastafarian who fuels the Millenium Falcon (you didn't see it because it was off camera while the MULTIPASS movie was going on).

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/kVaU0UOZ​ozI]


Thinking finding out WHY we need some heat is good for a trilogy, at least.
 
2018-05-29 9:47:16 AM  
And when Han isn't on screen... all the other characters should keep asking, "Hey, where's Han?"
 
2018-05-29 9:47:28 AM  
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2018-05-29 9:48:33 AM  
My company bought out a theater to take everyone to go see it last Friday, but I didn't go. I wanted to see it by myself.
 
2018-05-29 9:48:33 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: DecemberNitro: SockMonkeyHolocaust: Can't wait until the movie about the weed-smoking rastafarian who fuels the Millenium Falcon (you didn't see it because it was off camera while the MULTIPASS movie was going on).

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/kVaU0UOZ​ozI]

Thinking finding out WHY we need some heat is good for a trilogy, at least.


I'd like a trilogy about those little parasites and their struggle against said heat.
 
2018-05-29 9:50:12 AM  
I thought it was gonna blow and was a priori a bad idea to have a prequel of a character who goes from rogue to good guy.

They pulled it off
 
2018-05-29 9:50:46 AM  
Short Answer:  No.

Next Up Princess Leia: The backstory of the most famous princess of a galaxy far, far, away.  Pretty soon, your daughters will want a Princess Leia white princess dress with Dr. Dre Beats Headphones that look like cinnamon buns (yeah.  Spaceballs did it but they don't own it).  Then, they can, uh, mature in to that other Princess costume.  Oh yeah....
 
2018-05-29 9:51:10 AM  

vwarb: First Star Wars movie I haven't seen in theaters. I just...don't care. Han Solo was not in need of his own prequel. Tell me new stories and do new things. Don't just write high-budget fan fiction. My favorite of the Disney set is Last Jedi though, so take this opinion with the appropriate grain of salt.


I mean, it's still a new story about an existing character...

Also they used it to set up what I'm assuming will be a "prequel" universe.
 
2018-05-29 9:51:14 AM  

vwarb: First Star Wars movie I haven't seen in theaters. I just...don't care. Han Solo was not in need of his own prequel. Tell me new stories and do new things. Don't just write high-budget fan fiction. My favorite of the Disney set is Last Jedi though, so take this opinion with the appropriate grain of salt.


I enjoyed TLJ also. But I enjoyed Solo too. It fleshes out the non-Jedi aspects of the galaxy. The main series gets too myopic about the Force sometimes. In Solo you get to see Sabbacc, Kessel, and the criminal underground in a way that we haven't seen since the EU was thrown out.
 
2018-05-29 9:51:22 AM  

vwarb: First Star Wars movie I haven't seen in theaters. I just...don't care. Han Solo was not in need of his own prequel. Tell me new stories and do new things. Don't just write high-budget fan fiction. My favorite of the Disney set is Last Jedi though, so take this opinion with the appropriate grain of salt.


well, start writing
 
2018-05-29 9:52:17 AM  
As a Disney shareholder, good.  I hope they monetize every single bit of this franchise.  I want a C-3PO movie out of this.  The least they could do is bring back the cereal.
 
2018-05-29 9:52:50 AM  

Fano: You would be punctilious in assuming that


The thing is, I'm the only person on Fark with enough brainpower to make a good post about the Han Solo movie, since I'm apparently the only person who thinks that Jar Jar is beloved by all.

And yes, my IQ has been measured, I got a one-hundred on the SATs, I'm quite possibly the most powerful organism in the entire galaxy.  Just be happy that I am posting on this message board, instead of ripping the fabric of the universe apart.
 
2018-05-29 9:52:51 AM  
I enjoyed Solo, but it was incredibly inessential/inconsequential, even for a Star Wars movie. I'd say it's the worst of the Disney-era Star Wars movies, but that doesn't make it a bad movie. There's just not a whole lot of "there" there.

I'd hazard a guess that part of the poorer box office compared to more recent Star Wars movies is that it opened against two other movies that are very much targeting the same demographic(s), Disney's own Avengers: Infinity War and Deadpool 2. I think it would have made a lot more sense as a December release, since Disney's big Christmas  release this year is Mary Poppins Returns, which wouldn't seem to have a lot of demographic overlap with Solo.
 
2018-05-29 9:53:35 AM  

somedude210: i don't get the hate. Went to an 8pm show last night. The theater was empty 10 minutes before start when we got there.

it was a good movie. The guy that played Han had all the moves and swagger that Ford had.

but Christ, for all those who are pissed he's not the "f*ck the universe" rogue that we met in ANH, he's a young, arrogant upstart. The bitterness has only begun. And frankly, he pulls it off well.

and the Han/Chewie shower scene was great.

/Lando was spot on
//even the voice, i had to make sure they didn't overdub with Billy Dee Williams


There's no real hate. It just didn't make its projected profits, plus it has a bit more riding on said profits due to the sunk cost of the reshoots. People just want to see Star Wars fail for whatever reason so they're ready to shiat all over the first movie that doesn't make stupid money. R1 would have gotten the same hate if it didn't meet projections. We'll get another thread of "This is all because they ruined Star Wars with The Last Jedi now Star Wars has gone into the weeds and they're ruining the franchise" any minute now.
 
2018-05-29 9:54:08 AM  

BalugaJoe: Mike_LowELL: BalugaJoe: I liked it.

The sad part is that this will be the most insightful and well-argued post in the entire thread.

The Red Letter Media review just came out.


Pfft.  Experts.  What do they know?
 
2018-05-29 9:54:41 AM  

vwarb: First Star Wars movie I haven't seen in theaters. I just...don't care. Han Solo was not in need of his own prequel. Tell me new stories and do new things. Don't just write high-budget fan fiction. My favorite of the Disney set is Last Jedi though, so take this opinion with the appropriate grain of salt.


but it does flesh out new characters and locations. Hell, we see Corellia for the first time in franchise history (barring some games...maybe some cartoons)
 
2018-05-29 9:54:47 AM  

vudukungfu: $tar War$


HAs been teh case since 1977. There's a reason ol' Georgie Boy wanted merchandising/sequel rights.
 
2018-05-29 9:55:07 AM  
Still waiting for a Cannonball Run style movie.
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2018-05-29 9:57:35 AM  
I don't care how good Solo is. I'm not going to see it out of spite in order to protest the horrible mess that was The Last Jedi.
 
2018-05-29 9:58:54 AM  

KingBiefWhistle: somedude210: i don't get the hate. Went to an 8pm show last night. The theater was empty 10 minutes before start when we got there.

it was a good movie. The guy that played Han had all the moves and swagger that Ford had.

but Christ, for all those who are pissed he's not the "f*ck the universe" rogue that we met in ANH, he's a young, arrogant upstart. The bitterness has only begun. And frankly, he pulls it off well.

and the Han/Chewie shower scene was great.

/Lando was spot on
//even the voice, i had to make sure they didn't overdub with Billy Dee Williams

There's no real hate. It just didn't make its projected profits, plus it has a bit more riding on said profits due to the sunk cost of the reshoots. People just want to see Star Wars fail for whatever reason so they're ready to shiat all over the first movie that doesn't make stupid money. R1 would have gotten the same hate if it didn't meet projections. We'll get another thread of "This is all because they ruined Star Wars with The Last Jedi now Star Wars has gone into the weeds and they're ruining the franchise" any minute now.


fairly certain the piss poor reviews that came out last week soured a lot of perception on the film going into the holiday weekend.

that said, the reviews shiatting on it were wrong. This was a good SW movie
 
2018-05-29 10:01:26 AM  

cgraves67: I'm interested to see if how much of a fall-off there is to the next week. Solo started out on its back foot because it isn't a story that fans initially wanted to see and because of rumors of the various developmental fiascos. So there were a lot of people with reservations about seeing it.

But it's an enjoyable piece of entertainment. Word of mouth may draw in the people who were skeptical next weekend.


Fall-off will be about typical. But, Solo has the advantage of school letting out now, along with no real competition for about 3 weeks. It'll get close to the projected $500 million worldwide break-even, then make up the difference in secondary income (licensing, digital and Blu ray sales and rentals, etc.)

Considering all the problems with replacing directors and reshoots, I'm sure Disney is just happy they don't have a Pluto Nash on their hands.
 
2018-05-29 10:01:36 AM  

houstondragon: that Disney continues to expand the SW universe.


Reusing plots from the OT and giving backstories that no one wanted and expanding to ludicrosity the superdeeduperdy weapon from the first and third movie (It's not a moon or a spacestation, it's a manufactured planet! It sucks its power from a sun and shoots guided laser beams!) is NOT expanding the universe.

/want a space zatoichi
//and maybe a jedi lone wolf and cub
///both would be better than the recursive pablum
 
2018-05-29 10:02:12 AM  
This seems as good a place as any to complain about The Last Jedi again.  Point the First....
 
2018-05-29 10:03:33 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: I don't care how good Solo is. I'm not going to see it out of spite in order to protest the horrible mess that was The Last Jedi.


No1curr.
 
2018-05-29 10:04:44 AM  

vwarb: First Star Wars movie I haven't seen in theaters. I just...don't care. Han Solo was not in need of his own prequel. Tell me new stories and do new things. Don't just write high-budget fan fiction. My favorite of the Disney set is Last Jedi though, so take this opinion with the appropriate grain of salt.


This.

I'm all Star Wars'd out. I just have no desire for more Star Wars. First the shiatty prequels. Then the sequels have been..... OK.... And now spin-off movies about shiat I never needed to see. I'm just through with Star Wars at this point. They were fun, but now it's just sad to see the way the IP is being wrung to squeeze out every last penny.

"We've never see planet X!" or
"We never saw how Han got the Millennium Falcon!"

All that shiat doesn't appeal to me. I don't need to have every detail of their backstory laid out, I don't need to see that stuff - and it takes away some of the mystery when you do.
 
2018-05-29 10:06:34 AM  
I liked Solo. But my expectations were diminished by TLJ. 

I wanted to like TLJ, but I couldn't get over some of the story/plot issues that didn't make sense.

I discussed Solo with all of my SW friends, and they all agreed that it would suffer from TLJ dislike. I think Solo will have better legs from positive word of mouth, and will go on to not be a loss for Disney. I think an awesomely beautiful Memorial Day weekend for much of the country, coupled with stiff competition for attention at the box office along with former SW fans staying away because they're still stinging from TLJ all combined to leave the extra $50 million on the table that Disney was hoping for.

All in all, Solo was a pretty good movie.

So as to gauge whether my opinion matches with what you like, here's my SW rankings:

1) Empire Strikes Back
2) A New Hope
3) Return of the Jedi
4) Revenge of the Sith
5) Rogue One
6) Force Awakens
7) Solo
8) Phantom Menace
9) Attack of the Clones
10) The Last Jedi
 
2018-05-29 10:09:04 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: I don't care how good Solo is. I'm not going to see it out of spite in order to protest the horrible mess that was The Last Jedi.


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2018-05-29 10:10:24 AM  
I thought Solo was a really good Star Wars flick.  Much better than any of the prequels and The Last Jedi.
 
2018-05-29 10:12:44 AM  

stoli n coke: cgraves67: I'm interested to see if how much of a fall-off there is to the next week. Solo started out on its back foot because it isn't a story that fans initially wanted to see and because of rumors of the various developmental fiascos. So there were a lot of people with reservations about seeing it.

But it's an enjoyable piece of entertainment. Word of mouth may draw in the people who were skeptical next weekend.

Fall-off will be about typical. But, Solo has the advantage of school letting out now, along with no real competition for about 3 weeks. It'll get close to the projected $500 million worldwide break-even, then make up the difference in secondary income (licensing, digital and Blu ray sales and rentals, etc.)

Considering all the problems with replacing directors and reshoots, I'm sure Disney is just happy they don't have a Pluto Nash on their hands.


This is the Star Wars Ant-man. The movie nobody wanted with a troubled production, that is surprisingly good.
 
2018-05-29 10:13:57 AM  
1. A New Hope
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. Rogue One
4. The Last Jedi
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. Return of the Jedi
7. The Force Awakens
8. The Phantom Menace
9. Solo
10. Attack of the Clones
 
2018-05-29 10:15:25 AM  
I really liked Solo.  I've said it in other threads and I'll say it again.  I would really like to see Lando return in ep9.  Han is dead, Luke is dead, Leia is gone now that Carrie is dead(not sure how they are going to square that circle) so the original group is gone except for Chewie, 3PO and R2.  I don't think Chewie is a good character for being the wise mentor to the new young heros due to dialog limitations because he's a wookie and the droids are droids.  In steps Lando to pull the resistance back together and pilot the Millenium Falcon with Chewie against impossible odds once again.  The dude did fire the shot that destroyed DS2.

He could be the link between the original and the wise mentor character.  And who else has the charisma to bring in enough people to oppose the First Order?
 
2018-05-29 10:16:51 AM  

Fano: stoli n coke: cgraves67: I'm interested to see if how much of a fall-off there is to the next week. Solo started out on its back foot because it isn't a story that fans initially wanted to see and because of rumors of the various developmental fiascos. So there were a lot of people with reservations about seeing it.

But it's an enjoyable piece of entertainment. Word of mouth may draw in the people who were skeptical next weekend.

Fall-off will be about typical. But, Solo has the advantage of school letting out now, along with no real competition for about 3 weeks. It'll get close to the projected $500 million worldwide break-even, then make up the difference in secondary income (licensing, digital and Blu ray sales and rentals, etc.)

Considering all the problems with replacing directors and reshoots, I'm sure Disney is just happy they don't have a Pluto Nash on their hands.

This is the Star Wars Ant-man. The movie nobody wanted with a troubled production, that is surprisingly good.


Except Ant-man overperformed at the box office.
 
2018-05-29 10:17:26 AM  

Callous: I really liked Solo.  I've said it in other threads and I'll say it again.  I would really like to see Lando return in ep9.  Han is dead, Luke is dead, Leia is gone now that Carrie is dead(not sure how they are going to square that circle) so the original group is gone except for Chewie, 3PO and R2.  I don't think Chewie is a good character for being the wise mentor to the new young heros due to dialog limitations because he's a wookie and the droids are droids.  In steps Lando to pull the resistance back together and pilot the Millenium Falcon with Chewie against impossible odds once again.  The dude did fire the shot that destroyed DS2.

He could be the link between the original and the wise mentor character.  And who else has the charisma to bring in enough people to oppose the First Order?


Force Ghost Luke will be the mentor character, I bet. I suspect Lando will have a recurring role in the Solo sequels.
 
2018-05-29 10:18:28 AM  

icebergcomics: along with former SW fans staying away because they're still stinging from TLJ


There's that bullshiat again. You don't speak for me, and I thought TLJ was exactly the kind of movie/story Star Wars needed. It was by no means perfect but it didn't "ruin" Star Wars any more than the Prequels did.
 
2018-05-29 10:18:58 AM  
I've seen a dozen films in the theater at this point this year.

Solo is a solid outing. Not the best, nowhere near the worst.

I am kind of fascinated with how they've now made 2 complete movies based off of 2 sentences from Episode 5.
 
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