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(CBC)   In what is sure to be not controversial at all, we now have a 2nd amendment solution to those annoying bike-sharing docks that are popping up around the world   ( cbc.ca) divider line
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2018-05-16 03:57:47 PM  
Illinois congressman Mike Quigley joined in the discussion on Monday, tweeting that 60 per cent of recovered Chicago crime guns come from out of state.

"Getting a gun shouldn't be as easy as renting a bike - but in many cases, it is," the Democrat said.

Quigley said the exhibit "reminds us just how dangerously simple it can be for an everyday civilian to obtain a weapon of war."


Does he propose just making obtaining such devices less "simple", something that I can support, or does he only accept a solution where obtaining them is completely impossible?
 
2018-05-16 05:20:41 PM  
Rent-a-Gun kiosks outside middle schools?
 
2018-05-16 05:55:02 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Rent-a-Gun kiosks outside middle schools?


I think we should just have several fully loaded ARs on a wall rack in each classroom because you just never know.
 
2018-05-16 05:57:18 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Rent-a-Gun kiosks outside middle schools?


Also known as "Freedom Learning™"
 
2018-05-16 05:57:44 PM  
WOW
 
2018-05-16 05:59:03 PM  
Public art that is actually challenging and interesting!?!  How the hell did that happen!?!

The Chicago-based Escape Pod advertising agency partnered with the Brady Centre to Prevent Gun Violence to launch the exhibit in Daley Plaza.

Oh, that explains it.  No government art council was involved.
 
2018-05-16 05:59:15 PM  
That's it I'm moving in with the Newfies and learning their gibberish
 
2018-05-16 05:59:59 PM  
This is going to be reported as a serious attempt by liberals to give criminals in Chicago guns. Wait for it.
 
2018-05-16 06:00:07 PM  
Before posting, please remember this week's theme on Fark:

Art that highlights a social issue is useless unless it provides a solution to that issue.
 
2018-05-16 06:00:49 PM  
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2018-05-16 06:01:22 PM  
A bit of an exaggeration to say it is that easy to get a gun, you still have background checks as long as you are not buying them from a private sale.  Interesting enough, even though you are not required to get a background check for a private sale, there are private services popping up that arrange them, because even a lot of gun owning NRA types are just not comfortable selling a weapon to just anybody on the street, or even their friends and neighbors, without some kind of check.  You would think if that kind of private industry could thrive on its own when it wasn't required, you could get a law passed to make it a necessity.  You would be wrong.
 
2018-05-16 06:02:49 PM  
The fact that this can't actually exist proves the piece is B's. Try making a real one, see what happens.
 
2018-05-16 06:03:21 PM  

Dimensio: "Getting a gun shouldn't be as easy as renting a bike - but in many cases, it is," the Democrat said.

Quigley said the exhibit "reminds us just how dangerously simple it can be for an everyday civilian to obtain a weapon of war."

Does he propose just making obtaining such devices less "simple", something that I can support, or does he only accept a solution where obtaining them is completely impossible?


Are we talking bikes or guns?
 
2018-05-16 06:03:53 PM  
You know what we have too much of? Laws that aren't enforced.

What else? Ineffective government agencies and politicians. Inaccessible mental health facilities.

But no...lets blame the guns, the tools, not the reasons behind the ever-increasing, misplaced outrage.

What a scumbag .
 
2018-05-16 06:04:27 PM  

skepticultist: Public art that is actually challenging and interesting!?!  How the hell did that happen!?!

The Chicago-based Escape Pod advertising agency partnered with the Brady Centre to Prevent Gun Violence to launch the exhibit in Daley Plaza.

Oh, that explains it.  No government art council was involved.


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Posted just in case anyone forgot who Brady was or why he might not like guns.
 
2018-05-16 06:05:30 PM  
Tom Marvolo Bombadil: El Ammo Bandito]
Oh god don't get me started on Bioshock 2.
 
2018-05-16 06:05:42 PM  
What is annoying about bike sharing?
 
2018-05-16 06:06:05 PM  
Nothing will change until the second amendment is amended.
 
2018-05-16 06:06:25 PM  

UsikFark: Posted just in case anyone forgot who Brady was or why he might not like guns.


He's the guy who joined the Democrats so they'd stop shooting at him.
 
2018-05-16 06:06:45 PM  

This text is now purple: Dimensio: Does he propose just making obtaining such devices less "simple", something that I can support, or does he only accept a solution where obtaining them is completely impossible?

Are we talking bikes or guns?


Why not both!

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2018-05-16 06:07:10 PM  

SomeAmerican: This text is now purple: Dimensio: Does he propose just making obtaining such devices less "simple", something that I can support, or does he only accept a solution where obtaining them is completely impossible?

Are we talking bikes or guns?

Why not both!

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In all seriousness, I've been menaced more often by adults on bikes than by adults with guns.
 
2018-05-16 06:07:57 PM  
Sweet, one step closer to the suicide booth.
 
2018-05-16 06:08:06 PM  
I'd like to hear them say exactly how restrictive it has to be before these folks figure we've made it difficult enough.
 
2018-05-16 06:08:11 PM  

This text is now purple: In all seriousness, I've been menaced more often by adults on bikes than by adults with guns.


Clearly, the solution is more bikes.
 
2018-05-16 06:10:03 PM  

UsikFark: skepticultist: Public art that is actually challenging and interesting!?!  How the hell did that happen!?!

The Chicago-based Escape Pod advertising agency partnered with the Brady Centre to Prevent Gun Violence to launch the exhibit in Daley Plaza.

Oh, that explains it.  No government art council was involved.

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Posted just in case anyone forgot who Brady was or why he might not like guns.


Some people think that incel terrorists are a new thing, but they aren't.
 
2018-05-16 06:10:24 PM  
 
2018-05-16 06:14:18 PM  

SomeAmerican: This text is now purple: Dimensio: Does he propose just making obtaining such devices less "simple", something that I can support, or does he only accept a solution where obtaining them is completely impossible?

Are we talking bikes or guns?

Why not both!

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Back in the day, it wasn't uncommon for a cyclist to carry a small gun for shooting dogs, muggers, etc.

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2018-05-16 06:14:22 PM  
farking stupid.
 
2018-05-16 06:17:08 PM  

albuquerquehalsey: there is no strong correlation between gun ownership and gun murder rates. . .anywhere


You linked to a stack exchange politics thread. Just FYI.
 
2018-05-16 06:18:34 PM  
This is the only important information in the article
"A sign near the display suggests some of the tightening of gun laws needs to occur at the federal level. It says the neighbouring state of Indiana has some of laxest gun control laws in the country, and that "one in five Chicago crime guns come from Indiana."
"The sign says Chicago has a high rate of gun deaths, despite Illinois having some of the country's toughest gun control laws in the U.S."

Framed properly, it says that despite some of the toughest gun control laws in the U.S., 4 out of 5 crime guns (okay, lets call it 3.5 for rounding errors) are obtained locally.

Bad laws don't work. Criminals don't obey laws. Think smart and people will support good changes. Speak stupid, like this article, and you just look like the idiot you are.
 
2018-05-16 06:18:40 PM  
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable
 
2018-05-16 06:19:21 PM  
Oh dear, gun violence in the US is largely relegated to certain cities and actually to certain neighborhoods in certain cities. Is Chicago a crime ridden hell hole full of non stop shooting? Well actually no, the shootings are in certain neighborhoods in the west and south sides of the city. Saying that is super un PC so lets just call me racist and ignore it. I live in a large southern city. We have "high crime" yet the "high crime" is located to a certain few neighborhoods on a specific side of town. I don't lock my front door or my car, I am completely safe, no crime here regardless that I am in a "high crime city." Unless you are willing to deal with these realities, the crime rate won't change. Violence isn't evenly distributed even in "bad places" so why don't we look at why crime's occurring in specific areas and tailor law enforcement to meet specific demands. It'd be racist to do so.
 
2018-05-16 06:19:33 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: What is annoying about bike sharing?


Right?  Bike sharing is great because it helps reduce the number of bikes on the metro which actually can be slightly annoying.
 
2018-05-16 06:23:14 PM  
If I can't own a gun how am I supposed to take on the US military if the government wants to use MY money to build schools?
 
2018-05-16 06:23:50 PM  
1) IIRC, this is a repeat.
2) I have rented bikes and bought firearms from businesses, and buying a firearm is not as simple as renting a bike.
 
2018-05-16 06:24:38 PM  
Semi-automatic assault rifle? That's like calling a car manual automatic
 
2018-05-16 06:27:40 PM  

The_Sponge: 1) IIRC, this is a repeat.
2) I have rented bikes and bought firearms from businesses, and buying a firearm is not as simple as renting a bike.


1. It's a Canadian website with funding from the federal government
2. With a known liberal and antigun bias
4. Seems to be changing their tune and have brought up criticism of Bill C71 almost like they know in the next Federal election things may be moving a tad more right as PM Fancy Socks hasn't really lived up to his promises
 
2018-05-16 06:27:55 PM  

rikkards: Semi-automatic assault rifle? That's like calling a car manual automatic


Isn't this the standard term for it?  Have you never heard of Semi-automatic weapons?  The gun requires one trigger pull for each round fired, however reloads automatically.  So it's partially automatic as opposed to fully automatic which requires one trigger pull for multiple rounds to be fired.
 
2018-05-16 06:28:47 PM  

skyotter: Before posting, please remember this week's theme on Fark:

Art that highlights a social issue is useless unless it provides a solution to that issue.


You'd need to do some things to address concerns on both sides:

Dramatic increase in funding for searching out stolen firearms and enforcing gun laws already in effect.

Universal firearm registry and background checks for all sales.

Make it illegal to access, publish, share, or otherwise use the registry for any reason other than verifying who can have weapons and who can't.

Affirm in law the right to have a firearm at home for personal defense.

Severe penalties for anyone who helps someone bypass the registry or background check prices.

A general amnesty for anyone who registers their gun on the new registry, regardless of its prior legality

A due process means of removing the ability of certain people from having firearms (temporarily or permanently). There should be no automatic disqualifiers and everyone should have a right to defend themselves in court.

Banning bump stocks and other devices designed to fire a firearm faster than a typical person can fire them.

Comprehensive gun safety education in all schools including proper handling, safe shooting, and conflict de-escalation and resolution.

Significant increase in funding for mental health care and suicide awareness (suicide by firearm is much more common than firearm homicide).

This won't eliminate firearm deaths but it should help reduce gun accidents, guns in the hands of criminals, domestic violence with guns, and the numbers dead in mass shootings.
 
2018-05-16 06:29:46 PM  

Russ1642: Nothing will change until the second amendment is amended.


There's plenty that we can do that would still be Constitutional.
 
2018-05-16 06:33:50 PM  

UsikFark: albuquerquehalsey: there is no strong correlation between gun ownership and gun murder rates. . .anywhere

You linked to a stack exchange politics thread. Just FYI.


https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/vio​l​ent-crimes-and-handgun-ownership/
 
2018-05-16 06:34:43 PM  

UsikFark: albuquerquehalsey: there is no strong correlation between gun ownership and gun murder rates. . .anywhere

You linked to a stack exchange politics thread. Just FYI.


https://www.theguardian.com/news/data​b​log/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownershi​p-world-list
 
2018-05-16 06:35:23 PM  
Forced to pay to rent a gun?

WHAT PART OF SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???
 
2018-05-16 06:37:05 PM  

Steakzilla: rikkards: Semi-automatic assault rifle? That's like calling a car manual automatic

Isn't this the standard term for it?  Have you never heard of Semi-automatic weapons?  The gun requires one trigger pull for each round fired, however reloads automatically.  So it's partially automatic as opposed to fully automatic which requires one trigger pull for multiple rounds to be fired.


Quite aware, I own 4 and 2 of them are ARs.
Assault rifles are defined as:
Uses Intermediate size round
 Magazine fed
selectable fire which means they are also fully automatic.

This description efines the meme quite well

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2018-05-16 06:41:24 PM  

Dimensio: "Getting a gun shouldn't be as easy as renting a bike - but in many cases, it is," the Democrat said."


Honestly I have rented bikes before, it is not that easy.  Buying a gun is literally way easy, if your in Texas and drive through a town sort of slow, they'll toss one in your car (the gun, not a bike...no bikes in Texas)
 
2018-05-16 06:47:41 PM  

DaShredda: If I can't own a gun how am I supposed to take on the US military if the government wants to use MY money to build schools?


The plan is to kill as many US government invaders as possible before shooting themselves. Or just shooting themselves. "From my cold, dead hands" was the exact choice of words.
 
2018-05-16 06:48:59 PM  

rikkards: Semi-automatic assault rifle? That's like calling a car manual automatic


An automatic car is still manual.  Unless you're in some kind of bumper-car type car that magically knows to shift from forward to reverse.
 
2018-05-16 06:49:10 PM  
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2018-05-16 06:50:29 PM  

berylman: Tom Marvolo Bombadil: El Ammo Bandito]
Oh god don't get me started on Bioshock 2.


The launched mini-turrets were pretty damn useful.
 
2018-05-16 06:52:42 PM  

meanmutton: skyotter: Before posting, please remember this week's theme on Fark:

Art that highlights a social issue is useless unless it provides a solution to that issue.

You'd need to do some things to address concerns on both sides:

Dramatic increase in funding for searching out stolen firearms and enforcing gun laws already in effect.

Universal firearm registry and background checks for all sales.

Make it illegal to access, publish, share, or otherwise use the registry for any reason other than verifying who can have weapons and who can't.

Affirm in law the right to have a firearm at home for personal defense.

Severe penalties for anyone who helps someone bypass the registry or background check prices.

A general amnesty for anyone who registers their gun on the new registry, regardless of its prior legality

A due process means of removing the ability of certain people from having firearms (temporarily or permanently). There should be no automatic disqualifiers and everyone should have a right to defend themselves in court.

Banning bump stocks and other devices designed to fire a firearm faster than a typical person can fire them.

Comprehensive gun safety education in all schools including proper handling, safe shooting, and conflict de-escalation and resolution.

Significant increase in funding for mental health care and suicide awareness (suicide by firearm is much more common than firearm homicide).

This won't eliminate firearm deaths but it should help reduce gun accidents, guns in the hands of criminals, domestic violence with guns, and the numbers dead in mass shootings.


IIlike most of it but  the banning bumpstock needs to be flexible to allow further restrictions based on imaginative vendors who can work around the law (ie bumpstock or organ grinder) but still allow things like 2 stage triggers and shoot reset which do not speed up the rate of fire ( that one bill that git squashed after Vegas was too restrictive)
 
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