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(Al Jazeera)   Sword-wielding men attack Sumatran police station in terror act immediately claimed by ISIS, who apparently can't afford guns anymore   ( aljazeera.com) divider line
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2018-05-16 09:49:24 AM  
There can be only one.
 
2018-05-16 09:53:38 AM  
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2018-05-16 01:00:35 PM  

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Ayup. My first thought as well.
 
2018-05-16 01:35:01 PM  
Was it a scimitar?
 
2018-05-16 01:35:42 PM  
Watch out, they will work up to light sabers.

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2018-05-16 01:38:09 PM  

Snarfangel: Watch out, they will work up to light sabers.

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This is how you end up with an arms race...

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2018-05-16 01:38:27 PM  
FTA:
"Four men armed with samurai swords and firearms have attacked a police station in the Indonesian island of Sumatra, killing one officer and wounding two others before being shot dead by security forces."

/no-one here will care that the terrorists also carried guns
//see that's the thing about terrorism, it can happen anywhere, to anyone, with or without tools; it doesn't matter how inept or conversely effective terrorists are, all that matters is making the news
///yeah, this is Fark, I get it
 
2018-05-16 01:38:49 PM  
It's a planned response to Trump claiming knives are just as dangerous as guns.
 
2018-05-16 01:43:06 PM  

Erma Gerdd: RJReves: [img.fark.net image 424x185]

Ayup. My first thought as well.


The problem with your imagining is that it assumes the guy with the sword is going to stand there like a yotz, widdling his sword around for funsies.  Also, that you don't ventilate a bystander if you miss.  Most guys who try this do not start yelling and running down the street seven blocks away.  They attack from out of a crowd or jump you in an alley.  Then they have all the advantages, since you are not in a prime position to aim, or even bring your gun to bear, while they have a thing designed for most of its length to be the hurty bit.  In a white room scenario, the gun always wins; in actuality it is way more complicated than a Spielberg movie.
 
2018-05-16 01:43:14 PM  
Ask Theo Van Gogh about the symbolism of being on the receiving end of a real good, down home, Islamic hacking to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_va​n​_Gogh_(film_director)

Or Fusilier Lee Rigby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_​o​f_Lee_Rigby

Or Shia Cleric Abdul Majid al-Khoei

https://www.theguardian.com/world/200​3​/apr/11/iraq.ianblack

Sometimes the sword is mightier than the penis substitute.
 
2018-05-16 01:47:19 PM  
It's really a cultural thing. If you gave them a horse, they'd ride around brandishing the sword.
 
2018-05-16 02:01:07 PM  
They alighted from the van. This was not a van full of ballerinas.
 
2018-05-16 02:14:01 PM  
Going amok is an Indonesian tradition. In fact, that's where the word comes from. It's usually an elaborate form of assisted suicide. I am disappointed they used a Japanese sword instead of the many excellent native ones.
 
2018-05-16 02:16:51 PM  

Lord_Baull: It's a planned response to Trump claiming knives are just as dangerous as guns.


They're harder to find too, because apparently you can't buy knives with money.

Surf Ninjas Money Can't Buy Knives
Youtube KbLyWfwczbQ
 
2018-05-16 02:20:11 PM  
It worked on D-Day.

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2018-05-16 02:32:02 PM  

priapic_abandon2: It worked on D-Day.

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One of my favorite historical figures. Reading up on him just now...

In the spring of 1948, just before the end of the British mandate in the region, he became involved in another conflict. Along with twelve of his soldiers, he attempted to assist the Hadassah medical convoy that came under attack by Arab forces.[14] Churchill was one of the first men on the scene and banged on a bus

Man. I don't see how that was the right time for that, but still, apparently there wasn't a situation too dangerous for him to draw his sword.
 
2018-05-16 02:34:27 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Ask Theo Van Gogh about the symbolism of being on the receiving end of a real good, down home, Islamic hacking to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van​_Gogh_(film_director)

Or Fusilier Lee Rigby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_o​f_Lee_Rigby

Or Shia Cleric Abdul Majid al-Khoei

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003​/apr/11/iraq.ianblack

Sometimes the sword is mightier than the penis substitute.


OI BIN THOSE LINKS! THOSE ARE ISLAMOPHOBIC MATE!
 
2018-05-16 03:06:07 PM  

BigNumber12: priapic_abandon2: It worked on D-Day.

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One of my favorite historical figures. Reading up on him just now...

In the spring of 1948, just before the end of the British mandate in the region, he became involved in another conflict. Along with twelve of his soldiers, he attempted to assist the Hadassah medical convoy that came under attack by Arab forces.[14] Churchill was one of the first men on the scene and banged on a bus


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Who knew history was that interesting?

/safest pic I could find
//at work
///Churchill was the coolest PM evaaaar
 
2018-05-16 03:16:07 PM  
Does anyone actually check into whether or not Daesh did it, or do we just go by them claiming it? I mean...it seems like an easy way for them to get publicity, just claim some random nutjob running around shooting people as theirs and sit back. Shouldn't there be some kind of evidence if they were radicalized?
 
2018-05-16 03:24:02 PM  

PsiChick: Does anyone actually check into whether or not Daesh did it


This isn't a meaningful phrase. A major part of their MO, from the very beginning, has been inspiring susceptible people in Western nations to commit attacks on their own.

PsiChick: or do we just go by them claiming it?


Why does it matter either way? What will change?

PsiChick: Shouldn't there be some kind of evidence if they were radicalized?


No. Not all radicalized people leave a paper trail.
 
2018-05-16 03:27:18 PM  

phalamir: Erma Gerdd: RJReves: [img.fark.net image 424x185]

Ayup. My first thought as well.

The problem with your imagining is that it assumes the guy with the sword is going to stand there like a yotz, widdling his sword around for funsies.  Also, that you don't ventilate a bystander if you miss.  Most guys who try this do not start yelling and running down the street seven blocks away.  They attack from out of a crowd or jump you in an alley.  Then they have all the advantages, since you are not in a prime position to aim, or even bring your gun to bear, while they have a thing designed for most of its length to be the hurty bit.  In a white room scenario, the gun always wins; in actuality it is way more complicated than a Spielberg movie.


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2018-05-16 04:15:37 PM  
Eventually they are going to run out of suicidal idiots.
 
2018-05-16 04:24:44 PM  

ex-nuke: Eventually they are going to run out of suicidal idiots.


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Don't hold your breath.
 
2018-05-16 04:51:58 PM  

PsiChick: Does anyone actually check into whether or not Daesh did it, or do we just go by them claiming it? I mean...it seems like an easy way for them to get publicity, just claim some random nutjob running around shooting people as theirs and sit back. Shouldn't there be some kind of evidence if they were radicalized?


Who cares? What difference does it make?
What did they want? What was the purpose?  What was their message?
It's just criminal violence without those things, so what does it matter if it was ISIS or the Rotary Club?
 
2018-05-16 05:26:56 PM  
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
 
2018-05-16 07:11:22 PM  

Logistics Man: phalamir: Erma Gerdd: RJReves: [img.fark.net image 424x185]

Ayup. My first thought as well.

The problem with your imagining is that it assumes the guy with the sword is going to stand there like a yotz, widdling his sword around for funsies.  Also, that you don't ventilate a bystander if you miss.  Most guys who try this do not start yelling and running down the street seven blocks away.  They attack from out of a crowd or jump you in an alley.  Then they have all the advantages, since you are not in a prime position to aim, or even bring your gun to bear, while they have a thing designed for most of its length to be the hurty bit.  In a white room scenario, the gun always wins; in actuality it is way more complicated than a Spielberg movie.

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I can't.  Some farker shoved 2 feet of sharp metal in my spleen.
 
2018-05-16 07:30:27 PM  

BigNumber12: PsiChick: Does anyone actually check into whether or not Daesh did it

This isn't a meaningful phrase. A major part of their MO, from the very beginning, has been inspiring susceptible people in Western nations to commit attacks on their own.

PsiChick: or do we just go by them claiming it?

Why does it matter either way? What will change?

PsiChick: Shouldn't there be some kind of evidence if they were radicalized?

No. Not all radicalized people leave a paper trail.


Well, if Daesh is full of shiat, it might go a long way to making them look like dumbasses by saying it. It's worth an effort.
 
2018-05-16 07:35:54 PM  

PsiChick: BigNumber12: PsiChick: Does anyone actually check into whether or not Daesh did it

This isn't a meaningful phrase. A major part of their MO, from the very beginning, has been inspiring susceptible people in Western nations to commit attacks on their own.

PsiChick: or do we just go by them claiming it?

Why does it matter either way? What will change?

PsiChick: Shouldn't there be some kind of evidence if they were radicalized?

No. Not all radicalized people leave a paper trail.

Well, if Daesh is full of shiat, it might go a long way to making them look like dumbasses by saying it. It's worth an effort.


Who all's still on the fence at this point? If some person is at risk for taking up arms in ISIS's name, they aren't going to go "Well hold on, ISIS claimed an attack one time, but it was never substantively proven that they actually provided material support to the perpetrator. These guys may not be totally on the up-and-up. Maybe I won't be radicalized after all."

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2018-05-16 11:05:04 PM  

BigNumber12: PsiChick: BigNumber12: PsiChick: Does anyone actually check into whether or not Daesh did it

This isn't a meaningful phrase. A major part of their MO, from the very beginning, has been inspiring susceptible people in Western nations to commit attacks on their own.

PsiChick: or do we just go by them claiming it?

Why does it matter either way? What will change?

PsiChick: Shouldn't there be some kind of evidence if they were radicalized?

No. Not all radicalized people leave a paper trail.

Well, if Daesh is full of shiat, it might go a long way to making them look like dumbasses by saying it. It's worth an effort.

Who all's still on the fence at this point? If some person is at risk for taking up arms in ISIS's name, they aren't going to go "Well hold on, ISIS claimed an attack one time, but it was never substantively proven that they actually provided material support to the perpetrator. These guys may not be totally on the up-and-up. Maybe I won't be radicalized after all."

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No one gets up one day and just says "I want to be radicalized".  They see themselves - rightly or wrongly - marginalized, and then someone comes along saying "I can fix this".  But the mark isn't going to join someone who doesn't show they can fix the situation, at least on some level, or at least make some progress toward fixing the situation.  And if you are faffing about in an obvious manner, people tend to drift off.  So "we're the dumbcoonts who can't shoot straight" does have an effect.  Some may go off to join other, smaller groups, which are less effective due to lack of economy of scale.  Or they just don't join.  Most people have a "radicalization actualization threshhold" - below that point, they may seethe, but they aren't going to jump of the balcony at the matinee showing of Bambi with chainsaws strapped to each limb.  If their option for Unstable Sociopathic Flavor of the Month are complete losers, your average Ahmed ibn Muhammad is going to just stew impotently, and not join up because they couldn't get his RAT high enough.  You can see this dynamic in the KKK or IRA, who were considered juggernauts when they were strong, but when they started looking like chumps, membership plummeted - the number of niBOING/Pom-haters didn't change that much, but the number willing to burn crosses and bomb cars went down significantly.  This is also why terrorist groups often claim responsibility for things they manifestly couldn't have done - it attracts the fencesitters by creating an aura of competence.
 
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