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2018-05-16 09:50:45 AM  
goons?  hired goons?
 
2018-05-16 09:54:49 AM  
Basketball is kind of a pansy game without body checks and tackles.
 
2018-05-16 09:55:12 AM  
Don't search for gooning on Google image search.
 
2018-05-16 10:00:45 AM  
Kurt Rambis and Bill Laimbeer scoff at Subby.
 
2018-05-16 11:13:23 AM  
"Does it matter?" Thompson asked in response to a question regarding what Morris said. "I'm not a Chatty Patty

Chatty Patty? Is there anything the non-Bron Cavs can do right?

/Guess the Roomba gets more minutes next season.
 
2018-05-16 11:14:53 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Kurt Rambis and Bill Laimbeer scoff at Subby.


Rambis was a glue guy.

Laimbeer (and even Oakley) were valuable PFs/Cs. Laimbeer was an early Euro-center and the only guy to outrebound Rodman on the same team.

A goon is someone like Perkins. Useless, other than for his 6 fouls per game.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/p​layers/p/perkike01.html
 
2018-05-16 11:19:23 AM  
The Cavs didn't have a problem the last several years with Dellavadova diving at knees and rolling into ankles, err, I mean, showing great hustle.  Real lunch-pail guy that Delly.
 
2018-05-16 11:33:56 AM  

This text is now purple: OtherLittleGuy: Kurt Rambis and Bill Laimbeer scoff at Subby.

Rambis was a glue guy.

Laimbeer (and even Oakley) were valuable PFs/Cs. Laimbeer was an early Euro-center and the only guy to outrebound Rodman on the same team.

A goon is someone like Perkins. Useless, other than for his 6 fouls per game.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/p​layers/p/perkike01.html


Laimbeer understood his limitations and did the best he could capitalizing on his strengths...at first. When the whole "Bad Boys" took off I bought into it because I myself am an oversized, slow white guy who can't jump. But then as it spiraled out of control and he and Mahorn played up the hype more and more, he was just an asshole.
 
2018-05-16 11:35:39 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Kurt Rambis and Bill Laimbeer scoff at Subby.


More like Maurice Lucas and Rick Mahorn
 
2018-05-16 11:43:18 AM  
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2018-05-16 11:46:42 AM  

Crewmannumber6: This text is now purple: OtherLittleGuy: Kurt Rambis and Bill Laimbeer scoff at Subby.

Rambis was a glue guy.

Laimbeer (and even Oakley) were valuable PFs/Cs. Laimbeer was an early Euro-center and the only guy to outrebound Rodman on the same team.

A goon is someone like Perkins. Useless, other than for his 6 fouls per game.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/p​layers/p/perkike01.html

Laimbeer understood his limitations and did the best he could capitalizing on his strengths...at first. When the whole "Bad Boys" took off I bought into it because I myself am an oversized, slow white guy who can't jump. But then as it spiraled out of control and he and Mahorn played up the hype more and more, he was just an asshole.


He was always an asshole.

But from 86-91 he was also a 14-10 guy who shot .850-.510-.340 for a title contender. His player comps are Wes Unseld, Mutombo, Sikma, Lanier, and Mourning. He was a Hall of Very Good guy.

Oakley was better than I remembered, but a step down from Laimbeer.

Perkins is black Scot Pollard.
 
2018-05-16 11:53:12 AM  
Im glad the Warriors arent like that
 
2018-05-16 11:55:12 AM  
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2018-05-16 12:01:53 PM  
Silly Tag because of the tickle fights that happen in baskeball?  Well played
 
2018-05-16 12:12:43 PM  

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An overhead view for basketball is such a terrible idea. That and the weird thing games had with the 3/4 isometric view in the early NBA Live PS1 titles.
 
2018-05-16 01:52:43 PM  
Wasn't there a "wack-a-Shaq" strategy used in days of yore?  I even think I heard the term used in Chicago to described the Bull's method of dealing with Shaq.
 
2018-05-16 01:54:55 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Wasn't there a "wack-a-Shaq" strategy used in days of yore?  I even think I heard the term used in Chicago to described the Bull's method of dealing with Shaq.


You mean, send the guy who can't hit a free throw to the free throw line?

That strategy existed even before Fu-Schnickens formed. It was called "making them earn it."
 
2018-05-16 01:59:19 PM  
Marcus Smart should have been a hockey player and I mean that as a compliment.  He would have been a Hall of Fame defenseman.
 
2018-05-16 02:19:33 PM  

EyeballKid: yet_another_wumpus: Wasn't there a "wack-a-Shaq" strategy used in days of yore?  I even think I heard the term used in Chicago to described the Bull's method of dealing with Shaq.

You mean, send the guy who can't hit a free throw to the free throw line?

That strategy existed even before Fu-Schnickens formed. It was called "making them earn it."


There have been different levels of it.

One level is making them earn it - that's when you foul guys to prevent them from finishing a play near the rim.

Hack-A-Shaq was the next level. That's when people just started fouling Shaq as soon as he got the ball, because they felt like he would make plays through fouls.

Then they got to the next level in recent years, where they foul a dude away from the ball, completely abandoning any pretext of playing basketball.

THAT level of it is horsesh*t.

/this is unrelated to whatever happened in this game, wherein JR Smith sucked so many dicks that he decided to start fouling people to distract from the fact that he played 30 minutes and didn't score a friggin' point.
 
2018-05-16 02:34:11 PM  
Marc Iavaroni, anyone?
 
2018-05-16 02:40:21 PM  
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2018-05-16 02:50:29 PM  
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2018-05-16 02:55:05 PM  

IAmRight: EyeballKid: yet_another_wumpus: Wasn't there a "wack-a-Shaq" strategy used in days of yore?  I even think I heard the term used in Chicago to described the Bull's method of dealing with Shaq.

You mean, send the guy who can't hit a free throw to the free throw line?

That strategy existed even before Fu-Schnickens formed. It was called "making them earn it."

There have been different levels of it.

One level is making them earn it - that's when you foul guys to prevent them from finishing a play near the rim.

Hack-A-Shaq was the next level. That's when people just started fouling Shaq as soon as he got the ball, because they felt like he would make plays through fouls.

Then they got to the next level in recent years, where they foul a dude away from the ball, completely abandoning any pretext of playing basketball.

THAT level of it is horsesh*t.

/this is unrelated to whatever happened in this game, wherein JR Smith sucked so many dicks that he decided to start fouling people to distract from the fact that he played 30 minutes and didn't score a friggin' point.


Yeah this.  JR Smith just can't play at this level anymore and it's a shame he gets the minutes over others hungry to play.  His play deserved a flagrant 1 and he agreed but the reaction from Smart was probably over the top.  All players are taught to foul hard to prevent the and-1, this is nothing new.

I didn't see how the Celtics were "gooning it up" beyond Morris getting over-excited on that one play.  But whatever excuses keeps your job there Coach Lue.
 
2018-05-16 03:18:13 PM  
In the 1984 Finals, the Celtics bullied thier way to a championship. The Lakers were soft and couldn't handle it. I can't find the quote ir remember who said it, but the quote states that the Lakers fast breaked whenever they pleased. Then after McHale clotheslined Rambis, the Lakers were tentative and played as if they had to look both ways before crossing the street.
 
2018-05-16 08:03:53 PM  

Lochaber_Axe: the reaction from Smart was probably over the top.


Running over and yelling at Smith was "over the top"? Sheesh, what kind of pansy shiat is that? It's not like he tackled him or even really pushed him.
 
2018-05-16 09:58:28 PM  

doglover: Basketball is kind of a pansy game without body checks and tackles.


So any non contact or non violent sport is for pansies?? Seems ignorant.
 
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