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2018-05-15 09:49:02 PM  
I always love these threads, since there are no Baby Boomers in my family, nor any Millennials.

/in before Soylent Green references
 
2018-05-15 10:32:15 PM  
1999:
"Combined with a form of fusion, the machines had found all the energy they would ever need...and then I saw the fields with my own eyes. Watched them liquefy the dead so they could be fed intravenously to the living."
"Oh my God, that's horrible."

2018:
"...and then I saw the fields with my own eyes. Watched them liquefy the dead so they could be fed intravenously to the living..."
"OK...so can I sign them up on my phone or do you still use paper? Nevermind, I found it. Done."
"Wait, don't you want to know more about the red pill?"
"Oh Jesus, you're one of those assholes?"
 
2018-05-15 11:16:34 PM  
I'm putting my dad, a trained meteorologist, ex-navy climate-change denier in a home. I ain't ashamed.
 
2018-05-16 12:13:55 AM  
My parents are almost too good about not being a burden. As in, one of them had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor, and they didn't bother to inform my brother or I until after surgery.

Which is kind of cool in a lot of ways, but also kind of f*cked up because if something had gone wrong...
 
2018-05-16 12:14:44 AM  

walkerhound: trained meteorologist...climate-change denier


Wow...
 
2018-05-16 12:21:15 AM  

Sid_6.7: My parents are almost too good about not being a burden. As in, one of them had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor, and they didn't bother to inform my brother or I until after surgery.

Which is kind of cool in a lot of ways, but also kind of f*cked up because if something had gone wrong...


I think the more f*cked up thing is that you and your brother refer to your younger sister as a cancerous tumor, even if she doesn't deserve any of the inheritance.
 
2018-05-16 12:23:52 AM  

Dr.Fey: Sid_6.7: My parents are almost too good about not being a burden. As in, one of them had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor, and they didn't bother to inform my brother or I until after surgery.

Which is kind of cool in a lot of ways, but also kind of f*cked up because if something had gone wrong...

I think the more f*cked up thing is that you and your brother refer to your younger sister as a cancerous tumor, even if she doesn't deserve any of the inheritance.


Yeah, I'm sure my dad was carrying another baby at 63.
 
2018-05-16 01:35:29 AM  
ice floe option

Kiss my grits, subby.

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2018-05-16 01:42:19 AM  

Dr.Fey: I always love these threads, since there are no Baby Boomers in my family, nor any Millennials.

/in before Soylent Green references


I love how people get grouped in time frames that really don't make sense, then take it way too seriously.  Clickbait works though.
 
2018-05-16 03:00:24 AM  
This is why we're trying to get them all on board with the Mars idea. One-way ticket away from the world they're screwing up.
 
2018-05-16 03:50:39 AM  

Dr.Fey: I always love these threads, since there are no Baby Boomers in my family, nor any Millennials.

/in before Soylent Green references


Damn, no one over the age of 60? Like, your immediate family? If so, I hope you hated them, because that sounds lonely. Getting old sucks, I guess.
 
2018-05-16 03:53:23 AM  
Take care of the Boomers? The generation that mastered the art of climbing the ladder and then kicking it over? Take care of them?
 
2018-05-16 03:55:31 AM  
It would help if politicians would prioritize workers who provide home care over burger flippers, instead of doing the exact opposite and then proclaiming themselves "compassionate." 

Can't blame the entry-level working stiff for choosing $12/hr at McDonald's over $10/hr helping an 88-year-old around the house - but if you're going to play the game of tweaking minimum wages based on job category, maybe you start with the societally valuable jobs instead.
 
2018-05-16 04:02:29 AM  
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2018-05-16 04:05:02 AM  
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2018-05-16 04:08:38 AM  

walkerhound: I'm putting my dad, a trained meteorologist, ex-navy climate-change denier in a home. I ain't ashamed.


My mom is 84 and we had to get her a spot in assisted living. She can't live alone with her Parkinson's and even though she stayed with my sister for two years it got to be too much. I thought she would hate it but she seems to be taking to it.

I'm curious where I'll end up when my kids decide it's time to put the old man away.
 
2018-05-16 04:15:42 AM  
My dad is 61. He also has frontotemporal dementia. Initially we tried taking turns caring for him at home, but it was very difficult. We have agreed to put him in a nursing home once he starts deteriorating more.
 
2018-05-16 04:19:42 AM  
I've spent more handling my parents than they ever spent on me in the 17 years I lived at home.  They are the single largest expense I have had in my life.  And at this point neither has had to be put in a home or had the major medical crisis.

When their times come, I hope they pass quickly, but I can imagine their lack of planning and the US healthcare system completely wiping out my life savings.  Yay.
 
2018-05-16 04:28:36 AM  
For all the holier-than-thou folk in the thread talking about how these generations are just arbitrary names given to people born between arbitrary dates...

You're right.

But that's really kind of irrelevant, the point is clear. The younger generations increasingly lack the means of caring for the older generations.
 
2018-05-16 04:29:01 AM  
I'm Gen X and my dad had surgery yesterday to replace his titanium Terminator knee with a new titanium Terminator knee.

He's 87. West Pointer. Order of the Oozlefinch.

And he will kill you all.

But if you ask him about the cybers, he might just get confused.

So if you threaten him with defrag, you'll probably survive.

/You're welcome
 
2018-05-16 04:29:36 AM  
We're going to make a nice boat out of all the plastic they used over their lives and float them out to one of the great garbage patches in the pacific or atlantic oceans.
 
2018-05-16 04:30:54 AM  
Actually this problem has been solved. For some reason the admins posted it to politics earlier today when links this helpful belong in main.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/okla​h​oma-gop-candidate-proposes-euthanasia-​disabled-poor-avoid-food-stamps/?utm_s​ource=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_cam​paign=im&utm_tracker=1737131x84899
 
2018-05-16 04:42:33 AM  
Both of my parents died very quickly of cancer at age 60, despite living totally different lifestyles -- one super healthy, the other super not-healthy.

As bad as it was, I do realize that this is sometimes not the worst thing that could happen.
I'm 40, so i'm planning for the next 20 years and that's about it.

Carousel!
 
2018-05-16 04:47:51 AM  

Dr.Fey: I always love these threads, since there are no Baby Boomers in my family, nor any Millennials.

/in before Soylent Green references


Lucky you.
 
2018-05-16 05:08:38 AM  
You've Gotta Love Millennials - Micah Tyler
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2018-05-16 05:15:46 AM  
Not to worry. Life span is decreasing- and likely will continue to do so for all age groups.
 
2018-05-16 05:16:23 AM  

SFC Army Retired: [Youtube hLpE1Pa8vvI image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8​vvI]


Man, that is a some serious red-meat for old people hate-boners.  Kudos.
 
2018-05-16 05:22:43 AM  
My father died about ten years ago from cancer. He and I were very close and my only child is named after him.

My mother is still alive. She was very toxic in my life by emotionally and verbally abusing me because I dare to have mental health issues (some of which were partially caused by her). I attempted to reopen the lines of communication when my son was born since he is her only grandchild (I'm an only child and I had a hysterectomy several months ago because of benign but painful tumors). She behaved herself for three or four calls before reverting to her abusive ways. We haven't spoken since (well I wrote a living will and medical power of attorney before my hysterectomy to ensure that my SO and son get everything and mailed it to her).

So I hope she has good insurance when it comes time to placing her in a home. *shrugs*
 
2018-05-16 05:46:16 AM  

aevorea: My father died about ten years ago from cancer. He and I were very close and my only child is named after him.

My mother is still alive. She was very toxic in my life by emotionally and verbally abusing me because I dare to have mental health issues (some of which were partially caused by her). I attempted to reopen the lines of communication when my son was born since he is her only grandchild (I'm an only child and I had a hysterectomy several months ago because of benign but painful tumors). She behaved herself for three or four calls before reverting to her abusive ways. We haven't spoken since (well I wrote a living will and medical power of attorney before my hysterectomy to ensure that my SO and son get everything and mailed it to her).

So I hope she has good insurance when it comes time to placing her in a home. *shrugs*


I realize that I sound extremely callous by standing between her and my son. I don't want him to experience the same abuse that I experienced as a child.

Lately, I've been reconnecting with my dad's side of the family. When my mother and I were speaking she had told me that they were dead or had left the country. They're very much alive and live only six hours away from me. Hopefully I'll be able to visit them soon with my son and hear them tell stories about my dad.
 
2018-05-16 05:54:42 AM  
I'm so glad that the one parent I am in contact with is very organized and has already planned basically everything (she is YEARS from needing a nursing home but has already picked it out and probably put down a contingency deposit). The other one turned into an emotionally abusive nightmare as he got older and has only seen one of his grandkids because we ran into him in the grocery store. (And that was BEFORE I sent him the "ok we're done" message - despite living 15 minutes away, never contacted us after his first grandkid was born). So. I'm kind of ok saying good riddance on that one.
 
2018-05-16 05:56:09 AM  

brilett: Not to worry. Life span is decreasing- and likely will continue to do so for all age groups.


So what you are saying is millenials should die before the boomers and leave them without carers? Well, I guess that would show 'em.
 
2018-05-16 06:02:47 AM  
aevorea: ...I realize that I sound extremely callous by standing between her and my son. I don't want him to experience the same abuse that I experienced as a child.

I say kudos to you, your first responsibility is to consider the welfare of your child. Sometimes you have to close the door and lock people out, not to be mean, but to preserve your own well being. Keeping toxic people in your life is pointless and basically just plain stupid.
 
2018-05-16 06:11:13 AM  
Average price for a nursing home in Florida is $240 per DAY. I hope you're rich.
 
2018-05-16 06:13:38 AM  
We still have lava flows.
 
2018-05-16 06:30:17 AM  

Ishkur: Take care of the Boomers? The generation that mastered the art of climbing the ladder and then kicking it over? Take care of them?


right? fark them right in the hole. rot in hell you bastards.
 
2018-05-16 06:38:30 AM  
once the boomers start to get outvoted, there will be legal weed, mushrooms, and euthanasia everywhere.
it'll be fine.

end of life care will transform drastically into ending life on ones own terms.
 
2018-05-16 06:38:51 AM  
Boomers: Millennials are killing everything!!!
Also Boomers: Millennials need to care for us when we're old.
 
2018-05-16 06:40:18 AM  
It's a serious issue. Neither my wife's parents nor my mother is financially well off and with the current state of the economy we can barely afford a house that fits us let alone the three possible families that are going to need care and assistance in their old age.  My brother can probably help some but my wife's family will end up being wholly dependent on her as her siblings are barely solvent, if they even are.
 
2018-05-16 06:43:25 AM  
My dad turns 69 tomorrow and has completely let himself go since my mom passed 5 years ago.
He is a stubborn man and will live out his days at home. No way he goes to assisted living.
 
2018-05-16 06:49:12 AM  
If my dad ever needs care, I assume my sisters will be the ones providing it,  mostly because of proximity, since they live in the same state and it's not a 4 hour drive for them.

As for me, I am on the Hunter S. Thompson plan... I'll give away all my books and collectibles and it's done. I don't have any desire to live in a home, and am childfree. And even if it wasn't, I wouldn't expect to be taken care of by my own kids, anyway. They're not born to be slaves to their parents.
 
2018-05-16 07:09:33 AM  
I was going to use a rubber raft.
All I need to do to keep them safe is keep pine cones away from dad, slipped on one friday, and step ladders away  from mom, she has fallen off a few.
 
2018-05-16 07:14:15 AM  
I'd take care of Mom however she feels is necessary, and however much I can afford. My father on the other hand can suck it.
 
2018-05-16 07:14:15 AM  
I still maintain that we need to go back to the "estate" model for family dynamics: multiple generations living under one roof.

1. It encourages the young to actually care about something other than themselves.

2. It would help put the kibosh on the subdivision industry, which is both economically and environmentally unsustainable.

The family would have a large manor house...and the family stays in that large manor house.
 
2018-05-16 07:18:34 AM  

jadeheart6: Average price for a nursing home in Florida is $240 per DAY. I hope you're rich.


It's close to twice that in New York. $12-15K a month.

And the paperwork to apply for Medicaid for mom/dad is a joy, by which I mean "foot-thick soul-crushing paperwork hell, for starters."
 
2018-05-16 07:28:25 AM  
If you lived through the period of greatest wealth increase in history and didn't manage to put away something for retirement, or raise enough kids well enough to both be willing and able to take care of you then I just have no idea what to say.

I was watching something about Canadian retirees and the average amount saved for people 55-64 is something like $3000.  For that age range without a workplace pension, its down to $250.  Those are, respectively, about 3 month's and a week's work of living expenses (and thats assuming a paid off house, and that those amounts aren't taxable).  I have no idea what is going to happen up here.
 
2018-05-16 07:31:20 AM  
Not a millenial, but my parents are boomers.  I've made it quite clear to them that I have no intention of doing anything for them in their old age, and that they need to make sure there's money to provide for their care.  They've assured me that there will be, despite their near constant travel and other expensive purchases.  I ask nothing of them, and I fully expect them to blow any potential inheritance I might otherwise have. That's their right.
 
2018-05-16 08:06:41 AM  

BafflerMeal: I've spent more handling my parents than they ever spent on me in the 17 years I lived at home.  They are the single largest expense I have had in my life.  And at this point neither has had to be put in a home or had the major medical crisis.

When their times come, I hope they pass quickly, but I can imagine their lack of planning and the US healthcare system completely wiping out my life savings.  Yay.


That's what medicaid is for.  It will be based on your parents' income, and it will pay for their nursing home care.  Middle class families benefit greatly from medicaid - not just the poor.
 
2018-05-16 08:26:20 AM  

Ishkur: Take care of the Boomers? The generation that mastered the art of climbing the ladder and then kicking it over? Take care of them?


Millenials take care of *someone else*?  They can't even take care of themselves...
 
2018-05-16 08:28:19 AM  
My dads done well and paying his own way and being cared for.  Mom's passed on.  He has helped us a lot and I would do anything for him and would never turn my back.  Same goes for my siblings, we are there for each other if needed, it wouldn't be any other way.  I thought our family was nuts when I was growing up but have come to appreciate how much love there was in the house when I see others.  Feel lucky.
 
2018-05-16 08:44:12 AM  

TheAlgebraist: If you lived through the period of greatest wealth increase in history and didn't manage to put away something for retirement, or raise enough kids well enough to both be willing and able to take care of you then I just have no idea what to say.

I was watching something about Canadian retirees and the average amount saved for people 55-64 is something like $3000.  For that age range without a workplace pension, its down to $250.  Those are, respectively, about 3 month's and a week's work of living expenses (and thats assuming a paid off house, and that those amounts aren't taxable).  I have no idea what is going to happen up here.


My wife and I are in our 30s and we already have over 100k in retirement funds between us. We are planning ahead. Others my age though don't seem to be planning given then number of photos of cuban vacations and new vehicles and way to large houses my wife shows me from her facebook feed.  My bet is that the government will tax the shiat out of me to pay for the assholes who didn't plan ahead. Same as it ever was.
 
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