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Drew's interview about Iran and the disputed re-election of President Ahmatotaldouchebag. Also, some of Fark's favorite Headlines of the Week 6/14 - 6/20 
Posted by Drew at 2009-06-22 12:58:23 PM (128 comments) | Permalink
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I was going to write up a posting this week discussing the Iran thing that we've been following, but since I already discussed it in the following video, I figured it would be faster to just link to it:

With Iran on the razor's edge, Fark takes sides


Also, some of our favorite headlines from last week.

Headlines Of The Week for Sun 2009-06-14 to Sat 2009-06-20:

img1.fark.net  Lightning strikes kill 16 cows standing in a puddle. Well done    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Blind and deaf man to lead Amazon expedition. As far as he knows    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  North Korea warns the U.S. of a "thousand fold" military action. Great, now they are attacking us with origami    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Good news: searchers have recovered 400 pieces of Air France 447 wreckage. Bad news: that's two pieces of wreckage per passenger, so from here on out folks need to start paying the $25 additional wreckage piece fee    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  British Prime Minister sets up a PMS "working group". Bloody hell    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Driving buses is just like starring in porn films, you wait ages and then three come at once    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Nude Hiking Day is Sunday. Watch out for bares    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Bookshops apologise for including 'The Crimes of Josef Fritzl' in their 'Gifts for Father's Day' displays; Have promised that from now on they'll keep them in best-cellars    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  St. Anthony statue stolen from chapel. If only there was a patron saint of lost items the faithful could pray to in hopes of finding it    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Researchers in Maine find a sturgeon, for the very first time. A stuuurrrgeon. Oooh, oooh, oooh    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  British weigh 'I before E' rule, seize on surfeit of exceptions, deign to let teachers' consciences be sovereign in paying it obeisance    img.fark.net


Sports:

img1.fark.net  Phil Mickelson says his wife wants a US Open trophy. In other news, Phil Mickelson's wife now dating Tiger Woods    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Disgraced ex-NBA ref out of prison. The striped uniforms didn't bother him, but he's still pissed about the hard fouls from behind    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Kim Jong Il scores 48 bicycle-kick goals to qualify North Korea for World Cup    img.fark.net


Geek:

img1.fark.net  Scientists discover dinosaur that looked and acted like a parrot, say it appears to have shown some level of symbiosis with the Western Piratesaur    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Scientists discuss "sonic" black hole that sucks in all sound, are surprised no one seems to have heard of it before    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  The downside of red hot chili peppers is that they are less drought tolerant, more vulnerable to ant attacks, and every fourth song is about California    img.fark.net


Showbiz:

img1.fark.net  Hundreds of celebrities and hangers-on honor David Carradine at funeral    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Drew Carey's cameo appearance to make CBS' "The Bold and the Beautiful" 50% less accurate    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Bündchendeoven    img.fark.net


Politics:

img1.fark.net  Ahmasteelinyurelection insists that there are no serious challenges to the election results, has always been at war with Eastasia, these are not the droids you are looking for    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Republican Senator admits to extramarital affair WITH A WOMAN    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Australian senate removes screaming baby from Parliament chambers. One down, seventy-six to go    img.fark.net


Music:

img1.fark.net  Def Leppard closes Download Festival with stirring tribute to drummer Rick Allen. Out of respect, fans held their applause    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Aerosmith grateful for "Guitar Hero", botox, Viagra    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Moby says the RIAA needs to be dissolved. This was followed by 8 minutes of him repeating the same sentence to various drum beats backed by violins and guitars    img.fark.net


Business:

img1.fark.net  MySpace slashes itself by 30%, a move that resonates with its user base    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Best Buy unveils new commercial touting that their employees are more knowledgeable than Walmart's. No mention that so are several forms of phytoplankton, amoebas and bean dip    img.fark.net

img1.fark.net  Report: Chinese company Geely to buy Volvo, move to suburb, raise children    img.fark.net
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2009-06-22 05:34:02 PM
I was going to post a joke complaint that there are no google hits for "bambi francisco naked" and then ask Drew for pics, but there actually *are* 44 results for "bambi francisco naked".

Now I'm afraid to click.
 
2009-06-22 05:34:20 PM
Crocodilly_Pontifex: lol its not him. ITs everyone. If you trust someone so much that you don check their information, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

Well...I get all my stuff from NPR. My opinion is that they report everything, even if it's stupid and makes them look like fools. I gotta admire that.

If it's something I'm actually interested in learning more about, I'll go out and look it up.
 
2009-06-22 05:35:16 PM
Therion: Now I'm afraid to click.

pissing.
 
2009-06-22 05:39:17 PM
Bambi Francisco.

How is that not a great porn name?
 
2009-06-22 05:40:13 PM
Raccoon Dog: Well...I get all my stuff from NPR. My opinion is that they report everything, even if it's stupid and makes them look like fools. I gotta admire that.

I, too, listen to NPR, their stations are on my radio's speed-tune.

But I also tend to check and see whether their reports mesh with reality. Sometimes the people they bring on to give info have their own issues you need to examine, whether or not NPR itself has a specific agenda.
 
2009-06-22 05:45:00 PM
Thanks for backing me up on the Boobies comment, Drew.
 
2009-06-22 05:48:39 PM
Raccoon Dog: Crocodilly_Pontifex: lol its not him. ITs everyone. If you trust someone so much that you don check their information, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

Well...I get all my stuff from NPR. My opinion is that they report everything, even if it's stupid and makes them look like fools. I gotta admire that.

If it's something I'm actually interested in learning more about, I'll go out and look it up.


I get my info from newspapers

All of them

/ Thanks, Sarah Palin. That was comedy gold for 2 hours. Now it's my occasional snark to "I listen/read/watch to..." comments.
 
2009-06-22 05:48:40 PM
QueenOfHearts: My head just asploded.

That was a good headline. I'm glad it was in the headline roundup, because I missed it entirely. Bravo to whoever wrote that one.
 
2009-06-22 05:50:01 PM
Crocodilly_Pontifex: TheShavingofOccam123: I would say what has occurred in Iran recently is in no way a revolution. If you and others inist that it is by repeating that statement in headlines and each initial entry, well, that is your opinion.

we've been able to recieve confirmation through several seperate sources that the regular army is defying direct orders from the supreme leader, and defending the protestors against the Basij militias.

What do YOU call it when people are shouting for the destruction of their government and the army suddenly takes their side?


An AP report from three hours ago contains the following statement:

The Guard statement ordered demonstrators to "end the sabotage and rioting activities" and said their resistance is a "conspiracy" against Iran. On Sunday, acting joint chief of the armed forces Gen. Gholam Ali Rashid issued a thinly veiled warning to Mousavi, saying "we are determined to confront plots by enemies aimed at creating a rift in the nation.

It is clear to me that the head of the Iran military is more than willing to unleash loyal units against any protesting the election results. That does not mean some units of the military don't support the protestors. You need to remember the Tienanmen protesters were killed by units of the Peoples Liberation Army drawn from the outer provinces--places where people don't hold to kindly to protest tying up their country. I'm sure--and it has been practiced already in busting up current Iranian protests--that the Iranian authorities can find plenty of people across the countryside willing to put down protest with force.

Now let me summarize:

I said I had a beef. My beef was that every thread began with a required posting from a farker who has in the past posted other initial thread entries of extremely biased content and in no small way related to the Iranian protests.

I didn't object to the content; I didn't object to the source. I objected to the requirement that all Iran threads contain these postings as their initial posting.

And my original solution to my problem with these postings was to do what I normally do when I see something that bothers me on Fark--I quit reading the thread and moved onto another thread.

Having read the link in the beginning of this thread:

With Iran on the razor's edge, Fark takes sides


I decided to voice my beef that Fark--not farkers but Fark--is indeed taking sides by the moderators allowing content and posting decisions to be made by individual farkers. And I pointed out that, much like the non-existence of an incidence in the Gulf of Tonkin which resulted in a generation lost in Vietnam, people who say things may be say untruthful things or saying things based on their agendas.

And most importantly, I never said anyone shouldn't be allowed to say anything. I merely said I felt that Fark was giving tacit approval to facts and opinions by allowing posting and content rules other than official Fark rules.
 
2009-06-22 06:02:48 PM
at80eighty: TheShavingofOccam123: But fark does a real disservice to farkers by allowing opinionated content to be listed as approved facts.

I hear what youre saying - but I dunno man , I think people can judge for themselves what they feel is fact v/s opinion? I try to approach most of the info here with critical thinking , and i'd like to give that same benefit of doubt to others I guess


For sure. I have done more googling because of shiat that Tatsuma says than almost any other Farker. I sure as hell don't believe anything I read in a Fark thread without double-checking first. If people are dumb enough to do that it's their own damn fault.

Besides, it's a pretty rules-free site. How on earth do these people expect to control what gets said? Is a moderator gonna have to fact-check Tatsuma's whole round up? What a joke.
 
2009-06-22 06:04:40 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Now let me summarize:

I said I had a beef. My beef was that every thread began with a required posting from a farker who has in the past posted other initial thread entries of extremely biased content and in no small way related to the Iranian protests.

I didn't object to the content; I didn't object to the source. I objected to the requirement that all Iran threads contain these postings as their initial posting.

I decided to voice my beef that Fark--not farkers but Fark--is indeed taking sides by the moderators allowing content and posting decisions to be made by individual farkers.


Send Drew an email. He's a reasonable guy.
 
2009-06-22 06:19:22 PM
Way to kill the mood.
Who gives a shiat about semantics and the way you perceive information?

Seriously, does it not hold any merit that Drew drank Bambi's beer and said "douchebag' 50 times in one interview? I now know why Bambi was uncomfortable during the interview...

http://bambi.blogs.com/bambi_francisco/faith/

"I am an Orthodox Christian in the lineage of Calvinist theology. That is, I believe in original sin, and the corrupt nature of man. I believe in...blah blah blah"

Seriously people, no body cares if Drew was accurate about Ahmedinajihad, or whether Fark is an accurate news source. Think about the details here, think about what MATTERS, and right now what matters is Bambi Francisco and douchebags.
 
2009-06-22 06:20:01 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: The Guard statement ordered demonstrators to "end the sabotage and rioting activities" and said their resistance is a "conspiracy" against Iran. On Sunday, acting joint chief of the armed forces Gen. Gholam Ali Rashid issued a thinly veiled warning to Mousavi, saying "we are determined to confront plots by enemies aimed at creating a rift in the nation.

It is clear to me that the head of the Iran military is more than willing to unleash loyal units against any protesting the election results. That does not mean some units of the military don't support the protestors. You need to remember the Tienanmen protesters were killed by units of the Peoples Liberation Army drawn from the outer provinces--places where people don't hold to kindly to protest tying up their country. I'm sure--and it has been practiced already in busting up current Iranian protests--that the Iranian authorities can find plenty of people across the countryside willing to put down protest with force.

Now let me summarize:

I said I had a beef. My beef was that every thread began with a required posting from a farker who has in the past posted other initial thread entries of extremely biased content and in no small way related to the Iranian protests.

I didn't object to the content; I didn't object to the source. I objected to the requirement that all Iran threads contain these postings as their initial posting.

And my original solution to my problem with these postings was to do what I normally do when I see something that bothers me on Fark--I quit reading the thread and moved onto another thread.

Having read the link in the beginning of this thread:

With Iran on the razor's edge, Fark takes sides

I decided to voice my beef that Fark--not farkers but Fark--is indeed taking sides by the moderators allowing content and posting decisions to be made by individual farkers. And I pointed out that, much like the non-existence of an incidence in the Gulf of Tonkin which resulted in a generation lost in Vietnam, people who say things may be say untruthful things or saying things based on their agendas.

And most importantly, I never said anyone shouldn't be allowed to say anything. I merely said I felt that Fark was giving tacit approval to facts and opinions by allowing posting and content rules other than official Fark rules.


Srs cat is Srs.... I understand your issue but seriously his slant has been very minor. I too have been following a lot of the things going on via sources outside of Tatsuma and it really does look like it might be revolution or in the very least an uprising that is about to be met with a very brutal oppression.

That aside, the reasons Tatsuma's post is going up first in all the threads is because it was his initial lead and energy that breathed life into those Iranian threads. Now I suspect it is merely custom and tradition that are keeping it going that way. But there already have been a couple of unofficial Iran related threads today that didn't have his post in them. Further, I find it handy to quickly glance at and see what's changed to see what his latest take on the days events are. That at least provides me a jumping off point.

That all being said, I heavily disagree with a lot of what he posts in the IP threads and usually stop reading them when they get to the whargrbbl point. I still look at everything he posts and decide for myself what is opionion, what is a fact I should look into, and even look for things his posts are silent on that I should be looking into. I have CFI on my twitter and follow others from time to time as well. And as others have been saying, if you take anything anyone says on the internet as 100% truth at any time you are asking for a big let down. That's just a reality of the way information is disseminated anymore, everyone spins it.

I think though that this is more a problem with people have an issue of separating a man from his past and putting aside emotions, such as anger, he has engendered with some of his past comments.

FYI the guard is pro government but so far has been holding off on major action, the military is a nother body politic and where they'll jump is still up in the air last I heard.
 
2009-06-22 06:32:44 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Now let me summarize:

I said I had a beef. ... I felt that Fark was giving tacit approval to facts and opinions by allowing posting and content rules other than official Fark rules.


There were quite some number of farkers that was requesting to see Tatsuma's summary about Iran considering it was comprehensive with links provided for most of the info. To prevent constant requests for this specific information, it was posted at the beginning of the thread.

Your beef is personal. You clearly did not care where the info was from, what the contents are and whether or not if it was useful.

Look at it this way - If O'rielly or Lumbaugh all of sudden dropped their vitriol and actually started to provide solid news the way Tatusma has been doing, I would start paying attention to them - especially if the events has massive geopolitical repercussions...

Sometimes, some things are far larger than men and people realizes that and drops the BS. Look at 9/11, Sri Lanka's Tsunami and Katrina.

If everyone clung to concepts and perceptions the way you are currently doing, the world would not change for the better.

Please...

Just try to keep an open mind, encourage skepticism and just leave it at that. No need to hold grudges and beefs.
 
2009-06-22 06:35:18 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Blegh drool durr.

Dude. It's Drew Curtis' Fark.com. Whatever the fark you think it ought to be, it ain't. If Drew wants to make Tatsuma Jewish Princess for the Week, it's his call. If he wants to say that generally he's against genocidal maniacs in pursuit of nukular weapons, it's his call. Make a TSO.com and see if you can get folks to give a flaming bucket of spit. I doubt it.

 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2009-06-22 06:36:34 PM
I just ignore the Iran threads except for reading the daily summary every couple days. I checked the middle of one to see if there was anything worth my attention going on within, and there didn't seem to be.
 
2009-06-22 06:47:58 PM
symbolset: TheShavingofOccam123: Blegh drool durr.
Dude. It's Drew Curtis' Fark.com. Whatever the fark you think it ought to be, it ain't. If Drew wants to make Tatsuma Jewish Princess for the Week, it's his call. If he wants to say that generally he's against genocidal maniacs in pursuit of nukular weapons, it's his call. Make a TSO.com and see if you can get folks to give a flaming bucket of spit. I doubt it.


I'd let people post pics of naked people. Tasteful. No fatties.
 
2009-06-22 06:57:03 PM
Wait just a cotton pickin minute.

Drew went to Luther? in IOWA?

Soccer and pancakes anyone?
 
2009-06-22 07:04:36 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: I'd let people post pics of naked people. Tasteful. No fatties.

That explains so much about you.
 
2009-06-22 07:30:25 PM
img39.picoodle.com
 
2009-06-22 07:31:58 PM
Drew, you magnificent bastard.
I just got home and watched this.
I owe you a beer as you are a really great person.
Knowing that while our country is run by people who will start an illegal war, then run and hide behind diplomatic gentility, that there is one countryman, such as yourself, that would have the balls to call a douchebag a douchebag, warms my heart, and chills the beer I rightfully owe you, if you ever get your ass to Vermont.
I can't fly to a Fark party,. due to the TSA doucebags.
I cannot drive to them due to the fact that I belong to a minority of people who waork almost every day of the year. And Montrsal is out due to The douchebags at homeland security who have my name on some farking list.
But yo uhgave a cold growler waiting for you when you make northern Vermont a stop.
/Dont bring Bush or Cheney, they are still wanted up here.
//Really, they are openly called douchebags on a daily basis.
///still.
 
2009-06-22 08:07:25 PM
Crocodilly_Pontifex:
If i said " I dont care what you say, i'm buying a machine gun," and then said " that motherfarker deserves to die" in the same sentence, what would you think i meant?


i169.photobucket.com

YES, THEY DESERVED TO DIE AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL!!!

/Mmm, Mmm biatch
 
2009-06-22 08:57:15 PM
Nice. If I had a hat, I'd tip it.
 
2009-06-23 02:26:56 AM
Great interview. I loved the stealth shout-out. WooT.
 
2009-06-23 08:41:20 AM
Drew, you do man!!!
 
2009-06-23 09:51:47 AM
Republican Senator admits to extramarital affair WITH A WOMAN

At first glance, I thought they were talking about a female Republican senator. Yes, with a woman.
 
2009-06-23 07:04:33 PM
TofuTheAlmighty: Why would anyone interview Drew about Iran? Isn't that like interviewing Kobe Bryant about Star Wars?


Stratfor (defense analysts) pretty much said that it's no surprise that A-dinnerjacket won...so this could just be another election of Douche vs. Turd.

Link (new window)
 
2009-06-23 07:10:25 PM
Crap...I meant to link to the June 16 article not today's article (though both are about Iran)

Link (new window)
 
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