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Jon Stewart to Reddit: you don't matter 
Posted by Drew at 2010-11-01 2:41:26 PM, edited 2010-11-01 4:13:48 PM (5914 comments) | Permalink
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Backstory: Reddit has been pushing support for the Stewart/Colbert rally since its inception, possibly since before its inception.



At the Rally For Sanity press conference on Saturday, Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of Reddit, asked Stewart and Colbert a question: what role did the Internet play in convincing you to hold this rally? The response: "it didn't hurt."

Question at around 1:40
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-and-stephen-colbert-hold-post-rally-to- re store-sanity-press-conference/

Did you hear that Reddit? All that work you put into getting the word out, organizing meetups, and convincing people to go "didn't hurt". All that initial support in getting the ball rolling on this rally a few months back was great, but it wasn't a factor. Thanks for your meaningless and futile support that Comedy Central really didn't need at the end of the day to get a surprise crowd of 250,000 people to the rally. Did you hear that Internet? You had no role in this either, it was all Comedy Central all the way.

Colbert doesn't get a pass on this either, his "thanks Reddit for raising half a million dollars for our charity but it didn't affect attendence one way or the other" comment is a backhanded compliment at best.

And to say this all live, in a press conference, to the co-founder of a community of millions that did everything in its power to get the word out past its own readers to the greater internet, that is flat out disrespectful and wrong. Alexis is a friend of mine, and he's a super nice guy. He would never dream of saying this to Jon Stewart but I will: you owe Alexis an apology and you owe Reddit an apology. I'll stop short at saying you owe The Internet an apology because honestly I think The Internet owes us all an apology for a number of things, Justin Bieber notwithstanding.

In the clip you'll notice Stewart uses part of his answer to Alexis' question to make the point that Comedy Central had the idea for this rally "months" before Reddit did. Which is really odd considering Alexis didn't ask or imply that Reddit gave Comedy Central the idea for the rally in the first place. Sounds like someone feels a litle guilty about something. Who thought of it first doesn't matter, it is impossible to deny that Reddit's actions encouraged Comedy Central to actually pull the trigger. Except Stewart did, right to Alexis Ohanian's face, in a live press conference.

Why am I so bent about this? First and foremost, because a friend of mine got smacked down on live TV by a guy he helped, and I can't stand by and do nothing about it without at least saying something. But also because Daily Show writers have been doing essentially the same thing to me, every single day for the past 10 years. They use Fark every day to source material, and haven't mentioned Fark on air even one single time. It's the same attitude toward Reddit: "sure doesn't hurt, but not a significant contribution." Thanks to Fark, your writers don't have to go far to fill your shows up with material for you to use. Every writer I've met thanks me vociferously for Fark and tells me how much easier it makes their jobs. Sure that's not worth a daily mention, but I would think at least one in the last 10 years. It has yet to happen. I've learned to live with it, but Alexis is my friend and he does not deserve this kind of treatment. Especially considering the effort Reddit put into promoting the rally.

I'm not implying they owe Reddit or Fark any credit for the success of the Rally, that's definitely not the case. Comedy Central did the bulk of the work, that can't be disputed. This is about common courtesy. If someone does you a favor, a thank you is a kind and appropriate response. In Reddit's case, "it doesn't hurt" is a slap in the face. It discounts all the effort they went through - and they went through a lot. And they weren't the only ones, several other large web communities pitched in as well.

Here's my proposal: Jon Stewart should apologize for discounting the impact that Reddit and other Internet communities had on this rally, or next time The Internet should remember Comedy Central thinks they don't count and should show them what happens when "The Internet" actively works to convince people to not attend. Because if Reddit had put similar effort into convincing people not to attend, the crowd size would have been far smaller than anticipated. And if you don't believe me, let's see how it goes next time if Stewart makes the wrong decision.

PS: pretty sure this post will guarantee that I and/or Fark never get a mention on The Daily Show but that wasn't happening anyhow.
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2010-11-04 04:36:55 PM  
ravenssettle: lefty posting makes LP not fair.

i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 04:38:10 PM  
I don't know who that is.
 
2010-11-04 04:38:13 PM  
ravenssettle: Good news: Upon some research I have discovered that blogs do indeed close.

Continue with your regularly scheduled LP.


darog.smbks.net
 
2010-11-04 04:38:26 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 04:40:20 PM  
sxacho: As long as I stay behind my desk, I think it'd be alright if I took my pants off.

If you haven't figured out how to do it without removing or unzipping your pants than you aren't all that horny.
 
2010-11-04 04:40:33 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 04:41:06 PM  
Merkin Muffley: sxacho: As long as I stay behind my desk, I think it'd be alright if I took my pants off.

If you haven't figured out how to do it without removing or unzipping your pants than you aren't all that horny.


Or that used to being in public.
 
2010-11-04 04:41:08 PM  
2010-11-04 04:41:26 PM
 
2010-11-04 04:41:54 PM  
Well, I should like to think that this whole episode has taught us something.

Bad kitty.
 
2010-11-04 04:41:57 PM  
Damn. That's harder than it looks.
 
2010-11-04 04:45:04 PM  
sxacho: Damn. That's harder than it looks.

That's what she said...
 
2010-11-04 04:45:09 PM  
That's what your mom said.
 
2010-11-04 04:46:00 PM  
My dick is so big it's 42.
 
2010-11-04 04:46:21 PM  
sxacho: Damn. That's harder than it looks.

Using preview makes it easier.
 
2010-11-04 04:47:41 PM  
daRog: That's what your mom said.

Yeah, she never was the same after the Chicago Bears pulled that train on her after their Super Bowl XX win...
 
2010-11-04 04:48:50 PM  
dhambrick: daRog: That's what your mom said.

Yeah, she never was the same after the Chicago Bears pulled that train on her after their Super Bowl XX win...


She provided the extra X?
 
2010-11-04 04:50:34 PM  
I just farted and it smells like stale popcorn.
 
2010-11-04 04:52:59 PM  
Done in 5477.
 
2010-11-04 04:53:14 PM  
ravenssettle: I just farted and it smells like stale popcorn.

That's what she said.
 
2010-11-04 04:53:29 PM  
ravenssettle: dhambrick: daRog: That's what your mom said.

Yeah, she never was the same after the Chicago Bears pulled that train on her after their Super Bowl XX win...

She provided the extra X?


Actually the "Y"
 
2010-11-04 04:57:15 PM  
Someone else go to work for me. I don't wanna.
 
2010-11-04 05:00:37 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 05:01:13 PM  
I'd fark that bunny.
 
2010-11-04 05:01:50 PM  
Not Bugs, but the yellow one.
 
2010-11-04 05:06:50 PM  
What is this "work" of which you speak?
 
2010-11-04 05:08:10 PM  
Special Guest: What is this "work" of which you speak?

Today involves painting a room with machinery running in it.
 
2010-11-04 05:12:06 PM  
Why do I continue to jog if their are now machines that can do it for me?

/jk; I don't jog
 
2010-11-04 05:13:37 PM  
I only run if I have to.
 
2010-11-04 05:17:47 PM  
I think everything's been said that can be said.
 
2010-11-04 05:19:16 PM  
So then we'll just keep saying random bullshiat until this closes.
 
2010-11-04 05:24:15 PM  
ravenssettle: So then we'll just keep saying random bullshiat until this closes.

So it's just like every other Fark thread?
 
2010-11-04 05:24:47 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 05:25:07 PM  
thread is as irrelevant now as it was in the beginning
 
2010-11-04 05:25:40 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 05:26:21 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 05:26:38 PM  
dave1y: thread is as irrelevant now as it was in the beginning

Hey. This thread and Drew's post got quoted in Fox News.

Oh, wait.
 
2010-11-04 05:27:13 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 05:28:07 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 05:30:56 PM  
Ya rly Tim.
 
2010-11-04 05:32:32 PM  
How in the hell is this thread still going?

5500 posts? I haven't been in a thread this big since MJ died.
 
2010-11-04 05:33:40 PM  
I wonder what thread has the most posts.
 
2010-11-04 05:34:50 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 05:39:44 PM  
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-04 05:40:45 PM  
Shouldn't this be locked by now?
 
2010-11-04 05:45:31 PM  
No_47: Shouldn't this be locked by now?

I'll lock you!
 
2010-11-04 05:46:14 PM  
I <3 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510
 
2010-11-04 05:48:34 PM  
I know this much of pi by heart: 3.14159265
 
2010-11-04 05:48:45 PM  
Smokey the Bare: How in the hell is this thread still going?

5500 posts? I haven't been in a thread this big since MJ died.


WTF, Michael Jackson died!? When the fark did this happen???

/I just checked, OMG, WTF?
 
2010-11-04 05:52:47 PM  
Merkin Muffley: Smokey the Bare: How in the hell is this thread still going?

5500 posts? I haven't been in a thread this big since MJ died.

WTF, Michael Jackson died!? When the fark did this happen???

/I just checked, OMG, WTF?


I'm trying to decide if I like this thread the most....

I think Boobquake was my favorite.
 
2010-11-04 05:56:09 PM  
Smokey the Bare: Merkin Muffley: Smokey the Bare: How in the hell is this thread still going?

5500 posts? I haven't been in a thread this big since MJ died.

WTF, Michael Jackson died!? When the fark did this happen???

/I just checked, OMG, WTF?

I'm trying to decide if I like this thread the most....

I think Boobquake was my favorite.


Read all 5552 comments and get back to me.
 
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