Funny how the announcers are all "This is bad, throwing stuff is bad, Matt and Harvick getting into one another is bad..."

Well buddies, every Nascar fan I know (and that's quite a lot, growing up on the outskirts of Charlotte) is all about some cooler throwing and pissed off racers wrecking one another during a caution.

In other news, it's wicked cool to see an empty dorm catch fire. 10 fire trucks at 2:00am... go Catamounts

Fans in all sports in the USA lately have been having a thing-chucking problem. You see it in NASCAR, where crap on the track can get someone killed. Baseball, basketball, football. The only sport where it's alright to throw things on the playing surface is hockey when there's a hat-trick, and even that's annoying. C'mon fans, throw insults, not stuff.

'turning left not a sport' flamewar in: earnhardt, 2, 1...

/just wanted to use that joke.

it should be a dumbass tag

"The backup flagman for Sunday's Pocono 500 at Pocono Raceway, Jimmy Howell, was struck by a foam cooler filled with beer cans thrown from a fan in the grandstands as the race drew to a close under caution."

What was wrong with that idiot? Wasting that beer like that. I mean, c'mon. Beer is expensive enough as it--

Huh? What? Oh, it was full of Coors Light? Well, that's different.

/Dale Jr. fan

All I have to say is that I am winston cup fan. I have lost all intrest since the nextel b.s. moved in. The points system is a disaster waiting to happen.

The rednecks and the hicks that give the sport a bad name are ones like this reject who throws a beer filled cooler at the flagman for throwing the caution when it started raining.

Well "clyde" next time it starts raining strap in and go into turn one at 180mph you will do the world a favor. Take all your non-middle school graduating/attending friends with you.

I hate to vent like this but: this guy proves my theory that mothers should be allowed to eat the weak and stupid young so that they cannot drag down society even more.

The rednecks and the hicks that give the sport a bad name are ones like this reject who throws a beer filled cooler at the flagman for throwing the caution when it started raining.

worst sentence ever.

The guy should have been charged. 30 days in the cooler I say!

that's racin' (phrase): Expresses frustration or emotion. 1. When a small part costing just a few dollars fails and stops a $150,000 race car, that's racin'. 2. When you race a competitor for 500 miles and lose to him by just a few feet, that's racin'. 3. When a hot dog wrapper blows out of the stands, gets caught across the air vent on the front of your car and causes your engine to overheat, that's racin'.

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The 1967 Daytona 500, the year Mario Andretti won, was my first and last NASCAR race. The only "sport" where fans pay for a seat and then stand the entire race. After having to look at a persons butt for 30 minutes, I left. I have been to several F-1 races in Europe as well as SCCA etc. at US tracks, other than the left turn events, I like racing.

Nascar is the only sporting event that allowed you to bring in a cooler filled with beer and food. If people keep throwing crap on the track, it will end up like other sporting events. No more bringing your own beer and food, and then you have to spend 100 bucks for 3 beers, a hotdog, and fries.

While I really like the Pocono Raceway, the only real racing is F1 and rally, in my humble opinion. NASCAR is logos going in circles for three hours.

I say good. Goddamn flag-wavin', race-ruinin' semi-official bastids.

I'm from (as you can see in my profile) Long Island, NY. Not too many NASCAR fans here. I dated a girl from NW PA not too long ago and would travel back and forth all the time. The number of knuckledragging slack-jawed yokels that are fans of this "sport" is staggering. I had to listen to these people dissect the finer points of "Chevy v. Ford" like they're discussing something important or even worthy of human discussion. The schmuck who threw the cooler is just indicative of the brand of asshole this type of thing attracts.

I swear one of the things I found to be truly unattractive about her was when I would hear her discuss this crap with people.

/*Glad I don't date her anymore - why date white trash that's 500 miles away when I got plenty o' white trash to date right in my own backyard???*/

/*And that's right folks, that's a SQL comment block right there since I've seen the UNIX folks getting bent out of shape about "/" being used as a PS. */

Slight correction LiTeSp3eD:

flame war in Earnhardt, Wallace, Nemechek ...

/still funny though

exanimate: "then you have to spend 100 bucks for 3 beers, a hotdog, and fries"

Didn't think you could get a second mortgage on a trailer.

#had to be said
#yet another commenting alternative

Slight correction Bob The Nob:

Flame war in Montoya, Raikkonen, Schumacher...

One more reason to hate NASCAR...

Round and round and round and round...

Give me CART or Formula1 anyday.

lets see here... football games, basketball games, baseball games... they are played at the speed a human can run... just to give it some lee way... lets say approx 30mph (i know that's a pretty high estimate for an entire game average but eh it works for this comparison) i've seen them all stoped at one time or another for debri on the field... why then is it unreasonable to do so for a sport that is played at 170+ mph (i wanna say 112 was the average for pocono this weekend still a big difference)? no answer huh? thought so... and if you think nascar takes no talent... try making your thirty mile commute at 60mph in shorts and a tshirt without air conditioning in your car... sux huh (it does for me i live in houston tx) now put on 3 layers of flam retardant clothing covering your entire body and helmet on... drive for FIVE HOURS at 170+ mph these guys deserve some credit... as do the pit crews... and for all of you indy/cart whatever fans... they have their share of roundy rounds too... so get the fark of of you high horse

oh... and i'm not just a nascar fan... i like ALL racing... i turn whichever way the road does....

Some of it is a combo of frustration, and beer on the the fans parts. Because of the cost of going to race(Tickets, Hotel/camping fees,traveling and other costs will general cost 500 to 1000 for an event) fans will need to save up and can afford to only go to one or 2 races a year. After having to save up only to see the event end under caution I would be pissed tooo..But,throwing stuff on the track or at the flagman isn't the way it should be expressed. There are other ways they should've express their angry..Because of "Changes" in NASCAR my Wife and I have decided to stop going to the Brickyard 400, and have chooseing to spend our money on going to ARCA/ASA racings, and visting the local short tracks like Toledo and Flat Rock speedways more. A lot of cheaper, alot better racing, and they don't end under the yellow.

statmanBBB - We'll also accept the double slash // the semicolon, ;, or the hash, #, as buscemi has already brought out, for all your commenting needs.

Calling NASCAR racing a sport is rediculous. I can sit in a car for 3 hours and turn left. You don't have to be an athlete to have move your hands from 10 and 2 to 9 and 1. I love golf, but golf is most certainly not a sport. It a game. Now that I think about it, NASCAR can't even be called a game either. Lets call it...stupid.

Yes, but you've never sat in a car for three hours and turned left while going 180 miles per hour and surrounded by other drivers who are trying to run you off the course or into the wall.

Sure I have. It's called I-95 during late afternoon rush hour when everyone is heading for the shore on a Friday afternoon, so it's first one to any one of the bridges into Jersey is the winner. Hell, people do that in crappy cars for no prize money on the highways around here.

A buddy of mine owned a campground/rented cottages in the Pocono area. I used to see the kind of inbred retards that would throw coolers and other projectiles during the race. The worst part is that most of them have kids.

LONG POND....

They should have just drowned all of them in it....

zack morris phone and kregh99

Seriously, 2 posts that farking stupid that close to each other? You are cousins arent you? That married and have tard kids running around the trailer? Please tell me you are, because whats in my mind is much worse...

Man, am I sick of hearing people saying that racing isn't a sport.

My brother-in-law and I have a stock car we run at our local race track. Nothing fancy, really just a hobby class. All I can say is, anyone who thinks that racing isn't a sport has never tried it. I'm in pretty good shape. I lift weights, run about 50 miles a week, generally healthy. It takes me about 20 minutes in the race car to be completely exhausted, more so than running for the same amount of time. Just have to do it to find out how much work it is.

Besides, do I go to your bowling alley and tell you it isn't a sport? So if you haven't tried racing, leave it alone.

I'm not surprised that the flag man didn't press charges, but you would think the cops would have arrested him and trumped up some charges like "public intoxication" or "being a douche".

As for cautions, all races have them except rallyes thought they do have liason stages and the cars can be slowed by another car if it is left on the course or traveling slowly. But I digress, my point was going to be that

1.soccer has tens of minutes of boring nothing where at least one of the goalies and two other players could be taking a nap
2.hockey is just as much going in circles as Nascar
3.basketball is cool, they are usually doing something
4.baseball GODDAMN how many minutes do they piss off with all the standing around and calling people in and out? Watching a game on TV is absoulutely insufferable. In person it never seems to take as long.
5.Football is cool, but still, if they aren't wasting time out there then why does two minutes on the clock turn into 15 minutes of pre-empted Futurama?

Oh, and if the personals chick does beat me at air hockey, do I have to play for the Bears?

StabmanBBB: I'm from Long Island, too, and I'm now 17. I've been a NASCAR fan for all of my life, my dad started going to the Pocono races back in the early 80s.
It used to be nobody liked NASCAR, had no idea what it was about. Now you can't go out for more than 15 minutes without seeing a 3 sticker on somebody's rear window.

And we're not white trash on Long Island, we're guidos. And of course, Wyandanch.

2004-06-14 10:18:43 AM deevo

I've noticed that its gotten more popular over time. But let's imagine the following scenario: you walk into a bar, alone. (something I guess you're not so likely to do just yet, give it time, you will) You sit down and order a beer and start watching TV with the other people in the bar. And the conversation turns to sports. In redneck places like NW PA, you're MUCH more likely to encounter a conversation about what driver they're rooting for and endless, senseless babble about the races. On LI or in NYC, you're THOUSANDS of times more likely to encounter a conversation that makes some farkin sense, like a conversation about baseball, football, basketball or hockey.

Go visit these backwards lands. It'll make you appreciate living among the civilized that much more.

He wasn't hurt. Must have been light beer.

the reason they finished under yellow is that the race lasts 500 miles... once 500 miles have been driven it is over... in a foot race olympic style... if a runner falls but the winner has still run the 400yards... the race is farking over... done... if the winner of a car race has driven 500 miles... the race is over.. if it were a straight line race say from la to new york you couldn't just say "oh but he finnished under yellow... make him go back to buffalo and try again" if they had red flagged it they would have required at least 2 laps of yellow to restart... again... the 500 miles would have been complete... it's part of the rules... if you don't like them find another sport... i would surmise that cart/f1/indy etc have similar rules. you don't use basketball rules for football because they are different sports. so stop trying to use them as examples here. Just because you think nascar fans don't have the same kind of education as you doesn't mean they aren't as smart. Just because I don't know how to change a person's heart out doesn't mean i'm not as smart as a cardiac surgeon. Hell I know there are plenty of doctors out there that don't even knwo what a carbeurator does much less how to change one does that make them stupid? no just alternatively educated (how's that for a new PC word? hahaha) so shut the fark up you closed minded simpletons. if you hate nascar so much ignore the nascar threads.

and rtflakfizer mad props... keep racing (i wish i could afford to)

I was at the track on Sunday and saw this happen.. and let me say, it was one hell of a throw. He beaned the guy smack in the head from a good 50 feet away, if not more. Quite an accurate toss for a drunk. Doesn't say it in the article, but this happened after the checkered flag flew and the race was over. Everyone, including myself, was pissed they didn't stop the race to clean up the oil and then restart it to run the last 2 or 3 laps.

chiefs_11 check my previous post for why a red-flag/restart would not have been feasable.

ps chiefs... the closed minded simpleton part doesn't exactly apply to you for wanting the red/restart, i would have too. It only applies to the ones who toataly hate NASCAR

(oh and i do prefer the days when stock cars realy were STOCK!)

Pretty sure the caution came out on lap 196. They even stopped the field briefly on the backstretch on 197, but then restarted them again. Seems to me they could have restarted on lap 200 and had one lap shootout finish. But, I'm not aware of what NASCAR stated would be the red flag cutoff lap. If it was after that, then sure.. makes sense. But I still don't have to like it.

I'm surprised they didn't throw the caution on the previous lap when the first engine blew in turn 3. Had they done that they certainly could have redflagged and restarted. Not sure why they didn't when they threw the caution for a simple tire rub in turn 2 a few laps before.

/racist

Yeah give it to the farkin white trash that watch NASCAR, they are human filth!

/crowd cheers

Yeah - lets all just slam white trash some more, always good fun that no one would consider offensive.

/sarcasm

By the way the end of that race deserved some thrown objects, this post should have a LAME RACE tag on it instead of a stupid.

chief i can't argue with you there... i agree i prefer to see a greenflag ending... and yea a one lap shootout would have been awesome i think they should do that more often just for the hell of it... yellow flag it at every 50 laps of a 200 lap race just to see who can consistently get the hole shot! woohoo! i'm with you cheif... i was just stating my understanding of the rules...