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(Daily Mail)   Chinese-made cameras installed at a US Army base in Missouri have been removed because of potential 'negative perception' surrounding the equipment. That and there's the possibility that the Chinese government is watching   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
    More: Interesting, Daniel Roth, 1991, 1982, 1966, 1988, EST  
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6 days ago  
Chuckles Mandarin-Ly
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6 days ago  
Who's Way Ching?
 
6 days ago  
 
6 days ago  
there's the possibility that the Chinese government is wayching

Everybody Wang Chung instead!
Wang Chung - Everybody Have Fun Tonight
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6 days ago  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Who's Way Ching?


The Chinese Government is.
 
6 days ago  
After the OPM debacle, our information may actually be safer in the hands of PLA cyber warfare units anyway.
 
6 days ago  
So the Chinese are already in your network?
The cameras are the least of your problems
 
6 days ago  
My iPhone is made in china! Crap! Does that mean the chicoms sees everything through my camera phone?
On 2nd thought perhaps it better they see it then one made in USA... I definitely do not want Uncle Sam to see what my camera has seen.
 
6 days ago  
Watchingchong

Egg rolls off the tongue better...imo...
 
6 days ago  
Probably just a better safe than sorry thing.  I remember when the US used to be tops at espionage.  You know, before Republicans took over.
 
6 days ago  

SuperNinjaToad: My iPhone is made in china! Crap! Does that mean the chicoms sees everything through my camera phone?
On 2nd thought perhaps it better they see it then one made in USA... I definitely do not want Uncle Sam to see what my camera has seen.


Remember James Comey said he puts tape over his webcam...
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
wayching?

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6 days ago  

SuperNinjaToad: My iPhone is made in china! Crap! Does that mean the chicoms sees everything through my camera phone?
On 2nd thought perhaps it better they see it then one made in USA... I definitely do not want Uncle Sam to see what my camera has seen.


Also, install Kaspersky.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
It would seem to me that the U.S. military would have the resources to design, construct, maintain and utilize its OWN security equipment.
 
6 days ago  

doyner: there's the possibility that the Chinese government is wayching

Everybody Wang Chung instead!
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"On the edge of oblivion
All the world is Babylon
And all the love and ev'ryone
A ship of fools sailing on"

Sounds about right.
 
6 days ago  

Zevon's Evil Twin: It would seem to me that the U.S. military would have the resources to design, construct, maintain and utilize its OWN security equipment.


You'd think unless the military's budget was cut with an increase in mission necessitating more and more reliance on off-the-shelf technology to meet requirements.
 
6 days ago  
I remember a movie I associate with Dan Akroyd in the early 1990s where all the encryptions were broke. The secret is to have no more secrets. Operate in the clear. Do nothing that needs concealment.
 
6 days ago  

Summoner101: Zevon's Evil Twin: It would seem to me that the U.S. military would have the resources to design, construct, maintain and utilize its OWN security equipment.

You'd think unless the military's budget was cut with an increase in mission necessitating more and more reliance on off-the-shelf technology to meet requirements.


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6 days ago  

Allen262: Summoner101: Zevon's Evil Twin: It would seem to me that the U.S. military would have the resources to design, construct, maintain and utilize its OWN security equipment.

You'd think unless the military's budget was cut with an increase in mission necessitating more and more reliance on off-the-shelf technology to meet requirements.

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You may have forgotten already, but there was this thing a couple years ago called the Sequestration which also affected the DoD.
 
6 days ago  

Allen262: Summoner101: Zevon's Evil Twin: It would seem to me that the U.S. military would have the resources to design, construct, maintain and utilize its OWN security equipment.

You'd think unless the military's budget was cut with an increase in mission necessitating more and more reliance on off-the-shelf technology to meet requirements.

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Guy has a contagious laugh, even just visually.
:D

As for the military cameras, I'm sure the military can come up with their own cameras. I'm also sure they probably won't cost less than $2000 each camera. At least.
 
6 days ago  

fragMasterFlash: wayching?

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6 days ago  
Daily Fail?  Now I'm skeptical of Missouri's existence.
 
6 days ago  
Also, the Chinese have gone strongly into mobile networks and routers. Winning big projects with good products for very low bidding prices.
That's interesting.
 
6 days ago  
I'm not worried about the Chinese spying on me through my webcam, I mean, how can they even see anything anyway, you know, with all that pollution in their cities?
 
6 days ago  
If afraid of spy virus or bad ware, please to be running Kaspersky anti virus. Is finest product, used all over world.
 
6 days ago  
America's "big red button" fires nukes at China.
China's "big red button" turns off every computer in America.
 
6 days ago  
Then there's that rumored Second PeePee Tape of some general from some military base with the title of Got Wood.
 
6 days ago  
 Hey, any you guys know anything about any launch codes?
 
6 days ago  
I spent time at Fort Leonard Wood. That farking place is truly the shiathole Trump talks about.  If China is watching that place, it is only to provide severe punishment to some poor desk jockey who prays for early death.
 
6 days ago  
shouldn't we want china to spy on us thru our own cameras in the US?

so they can see how awesome it is over here with all our freedoms?  once a few thousand chinese spy's start seeing every jethro's big-ass fries and pickup trucks, they will overthrow the Chinese gov't and become the 51st state of Unitied States, we will call it Very West Virginia
 
6 days ago  
Just wait until they investigate the Coca-Cola served in the cafeteria. .....
 
6 days ago  
But but but.. embedding backdoors into hardware for the govt is OUR thing!!!

No fair!
 
6 days ago  
Spying on the US military?  "Hickvision" indeed.
 
6 days ago  

ToeKnee666: SuperNinjaToad: My iPhone is made in china! Crap! Does that mean the chicoms sees everything through my camera phone?
On 2nd thought perhaps it better they see it then one made in USA... I definitely do not want Uncle Sam to see what my camera has seen.

Also, install Kaspersky.


It took Congress to tell the military to stop using Kaspersky.
 
6 days ago  

edmo: ToeKnee666: SuperNinjaToad: My iPhone is made in china! Crap! Does that mean the chicoms sees everything through my camera phone?
On 2nd thought perhaps it better they see it then one made in USA... I definitely do not want Uncle Sam to see what my camera has seen.

Also, install Kaspersky.

It took Congress to tell the military to stop using Kaspersky.


And then they switched to McAfee, so no real improvement there.
 
6 days ago  

ToeKnee666: SuperNinjaToad: My iPhone is made in china! Crap! Does that mean the chicoms sees everything through my camera phone?
On 2nd thought perhaps it better they see it then one made in USA... I definitely do not want Uncle Sam to see what my camera has seen.

Also, install Kaspersky.


Kaspersky rocks.
 
6 days ago  
Hikvision  PTZ cams suck balls over the internet even if you are not concerned about security. They only work with internet explorer now
 
6 days ago  
I remember a tale from about thirty years back, of how the CIA arranged for the photocopiers at a Russian embassy to store an extra image of everything the copier saw, saved to a replaceable toner cartridge that was either picked up by the regular maintenance guy or pulled out of the trash later.  The hard part was not in doctoring the Trojan copiers, because at the time they were new and complex technology and people just accepted what they saw without trying to reverse-engineer every last bolt and circuit.

The hard part was clandestinely inserting the doctored copiers in a logistics chain of normal copiers where the Russians, wary of dealing direct with a Yankee company like IBM or Xerox, would unsuspectingly acquire them by theft or thru blind, cash-basis third-party purchases in a different country, made to avoid paying tariffs or publicly being seen buying American products.

So the idea that low-cost electronic goods from China are being loaded with spyware and back-doors is easy for me to believe.  I'd bet pretty much every phone and USB memory stick we own has been compromised like this to one extent or another.  Those digital picture frame things were a famous source of Chinese hacks; came pre-infected right off the line, and the only "safe" way to handle them was to use your camera as the intermediary to wipe the memory card and transfer pictures into them. If you used the USB hookup, you got pwned.
 
6 days ago  
Grorious Peoples' Lepublic win row-bid contlact fair and square, cookie boy!  Why u no rike Capitarism, Amelicans??!??  Flee Entelplise!!!
 
6 days ago  

Any Pie Left: I remember a tale from about thirty years back, of how the CIA arranged for the photocopiers at a Russian embassy to store an extra image of everything the copier saw, saved to a replaceable toner cartridge that was either picked up by the regular maintenance guy or pulled out of the trash later.  The hard part was not in doctoring the Trojan copiers, because at the time they were new and complex technology and people just accepted what they saw without trying to reverse-engineer every last bolt and circuit.

The hard part was clandestinely inserting the doctored copiers in a logistics chain of normal copiers where the Russians, wary of dealing direct with a Yankee company like IBM or Xerox, would unsuspectingly acquire them by theft or thru blind, cash-basis third-party purchases in a different country, made to avoid paying tariffs or publicly being seen buying American products.

So the idea that low-cost electronic goods from China are being loaded with spyware and back-doors is easy for me to believe.  I'd bet pretty much every phone and USB memory stick we own has been compromised like this to one extent or another.  Those digital picture frame things were a famous source of Chinese hacks; came pre-infected right off the line, and the only "safe" way to handle them was to use your camera as the intermediary to wipe the memory card and transfer pictures into them. If you used the USB hookup, you got pwned.


"Siri, please eavesdrop on me to collect Kompromat, and track my shopping habits to devise the easiest way to buy and subvert my loyalty."
 
6 days ago  
Not the first Chinese product to be found with spy wear.
 
6 days ago  
So that army base no longer has a single security camera.  Because what other country makes them?
 
5 days ago  

Zevon's Evil Twin: It would seem to me that the U.S. military would have the resources to design, construct, maintain and utilize its OWN security equipment.


Nope.  The US military rarely constructs or fabricates its own gear.  It sometimes even contracts out operations of non-combat equipment, both CONUS and overseas.
 
5 days ago  

pissnmoan: I spent time at Fort Leonard Wood. That farking place is truly the shiathole Trump talks about.  If China is watching that place, it is only to provide severe punishment to some poor desk jockey who prays for early death.


Not a fan of Waynesvegas and Big Louie's? Well excuse me Mr. Fancypants.
 
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