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2018-01-13 01:25:04 PM  
I love me a good flour tortilla.

But subby:
 
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2018-01-13 01:42:01 PM  
CSB:

One time, while living in Minnesota, I proposed to a couple of friends that we make quesadillas. One said, "Cool" and the other said, "What's that?" When I described a quesadilla he said, "I make those all the time! I call them Mexican grilled cheese sandwiches!"

/CSB
 
2018-01-13 01:53:44 PM  
Do you mean burrito coverings?

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THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT!
 
2018-01-13 02:25:35 PM  
"Recent Mexican immigrants deride flour tortillas as a gringo quirk... The American capital of flour tortillas, though, is Arizona, where they are prepared in a manner virtually identical to that of the ones across the border in Sonora"

This article contradicts itself and the author seems completely unaware that Mexico, like the US is made up of vastly different regions called States which have their own cultural quirks and tastes.

Just had some fresh hand made harina tortillas Thursday morning at a little road side shack popular with Truckers just outside of Santa Ana in Sonora during a pit stop on the drive down from Puerto Peñasco, and my god they were delicious
 
2018-01-13 02:41:54 PM  

rcain: "Recent Mexican immigrants deride flour tortillas as a gringo quirk... The American capital of flour tortillas, though, is Arizona, where they are prepared in a manner virtually identical to that of the ones across the border in Sonora"

This article contradicts itself and the author seems completely unaware that Mexico, like the US is made up of vastly different regions called States which have their own cultural quirks and tastes.

Just had some fresh hand made harina tortillas Thursday morning at a little road side shack popular with Truckers just outside of Santa Ana in Sonora during a pit stop on the drive down from Puerto Peñasco, and my god they were delicious


Yeah. This.  I make my own from a recipe my mother picked up in Ecuador.  They're amazing.
 
2018-01-13 03:24:24 PM  
No
corn tortillas are better
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2018-01-13 03:25:11 PM  

rcain: "Recent Mexican immigrants deride flour tortillas as a gringo quirk... The American capital of flour tortillas, though, is Arizona, where they are prepared in a manner virtually identical to that of the ones across the border in Sonora"

This article contradicts itself and the author seems completely unaware that Mexico, like the US is made up of vastly different regions called States which have their own cultural quirks and tastes.

Just had some fresh hand made harina tortillas Thursday morning at a little road side shack popular with Truckers just outside of Santa Ana in Sonora during a pit stop on the drive down from Puerto Peñasco, and my god they were delicious


Distinct social castes as well, and that effects the type of food you eat.
 
2018-01-13 03:25:47 PM  
Corn tortillas are good if you're having a street taco, but flour tortillas are important for any kind of serious Mexican meal.
 
2018-01-13 03:25:48 PM  

slackananda: CSB:

One time, while living in Minnesota, I proposed to a couple of friends that we make quesadillas. One said, "Cool" and the other said, "What's that?" When I described a quesadilla he said, "I make those all the time! I call them Mexican grilled cheese sandwiches!"

/CSB


I've heard people refer to tortillas as "burrito shells".
 
2018-01-13 03:28:02 PM  

rcain: "Recent Mexican immigrants deride flour tortillas as a gringo quirk... The American capital of flour tortillas, though, is Arizona, where they are prepared in a manner virtually identical to that of the ones across the border in Sonora"

This article contradicts itself and the author seems completely unaware that Mexico, like the US is made up of vastly different regions called States which have their own cultural quirks and tastes.

Just had some fresh hand made harina tortillas Thursday morning at a little road side shack popular with Truckers just outside of Santa Ana in Sonora during a pit stop on the drive down from Puerto Peñasco, and my god they were delicious


Mexican food can have differences in the US depending on which state you're in as well. I know a couple that runs a Mexican restaurant who used to be from California, but moved out to the Midwest. The wife told me she found it weird how much cheese we put on everything. She said Mexican places in California didn't put so much cheese on their food as we do so she had to change the way she prepped food to account for Midwesterners' desire to die of a heart attack in their 30s.
 
2018-01-13 03:29:28 PM  
Man I live in Germany where a fresh flour tortilla or hell a taco truck is but a dream for this Texan expat. It's for this reason that I had to learn to make my own flour tortillas from scratch. None of that white wings instant nonsense. Mine are just about perfect now. I started using a kitchen aid to get work the dough and that worked wonders. However, last weekend I was gonna make a batch of chorizo and egg so I decided to ditch the kitchen aid and just work the dough by hand but for 10 minutes instead of 5. More satisfying with thw hands I must say. Achieved a similar texture as that with the mixer.
 
2018-01-13 03:29:30 PM  
A proper Mexican sandwich is made with a bolillo.
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2018-01-13 03:30:17 PM  
corn tortillas or die
 
2018-01-13 03:31:11 PM  
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2018-01-13 03:34:37 PM  
Burritos and tacos are sandwiches now?

They have tortas you know.
 
2018-01-13 03:34:41 PM  
 One major benefit of having parents who grew up in Santa Fe is fresh, homemade, flour tortillas every time I go over to their house.
 
2018-01-13 03:34:57 PM  
I see that we need to refer to this again.

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2018-01-13 03:39:14 PM  
If I'm having a burrito, I prefer flour tortillas for their size and structural integrity when filled and rolled up. For tacos, I go for corn tortillas for the flavor. For sandwiches, I use bread.
 
2018-01-13 03:41:53 PM  
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2018-01-13 03:43:15 PM  
Nothing worse than a crappy tortilla to ruin what would have been a perfectly cromulent burrito.
 
2018-01-13 03:43:15 PM  

rcain: "Recent Mexican immigrants deride flour tortillas as a gringo quirk... The American capital of flour tortillas, though, is Arizona, where they are prepared in a manner virtually identical to that of the ones across the border in Sonora"

This article contradicts itself and the author seems completely unaware that Mexico, like the US is made up of vastly different regions called States which have their own cultural quirks and tastes.

Just had some fresh hand made harina tortillas Thursday morning at a little road side shack popular with Truckers just outside of Santa Ana in Sonora during a pit stop on the drive down from Puerto Peñasco, and my god they were delicious


The author isn't wrong though that people  from some Mexican states think of flour tortillas as gabacho food.

I imagine it's similar to the arguments Americans have over what proper barbeque is, or what is a proper pizza, or what chains make good hamburgers.

There are quite a few Mexican immigrants that don't appreciate how diverse their country of origin is.  That's not a surprising problem for people that don't have the money to travel for recreation, or more than the most basic education.
 
2018-01-13 03:45:03 PM  
Flour tortillas are currency where I grew up in S. Colorado - if you had a friend whose abuela made good tortillas and sopapillas, you were set.
 
2018-01-13 03:45:22 PM  
Fresh corn tortillas, nice and warm are the best.

But if it's some tex Mex dish using the pre-bought ones that I'm making as a weeknight dish, the flour ones hold up better and are more convenient.
 
2018-01-13 03:46:33 PM  
If you're using it as a food ingredient, use corn.  Flour tortillas are good for chasing jalapenos and mopping up stray green chili.
 
2018-01-13 03:50:00 PM  
This year I started making a lot of Mex/New Mex dishes. I figured having access to hatch green Chile and a few dozen native New Mexican opinions and recipes through work I should try. I've got tortillas down pretty good. Alot of native New Mexicans with any Hispanic roots consider themselves as much Spanish as Mexican. And tortillas are definitely not a gabacho thing here.
 
2018-01-13 03:53:27 PM  

Gordon Bennett: I see that we need to refer to this again.

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2018-01-13 03:54:01 PM  
Flour tortillas are ok, but nothing beats a freshly made corn tortilla.

Find a taco truck that makes homemade tortillas, and you're golden.

"Dos tacos de lengua, y un de cabeza con todo, por favor" - Only words you need to know to have a good time at a taco truck. Substitute carnitas and carne asada if you're less adventurous.
 
2018-01-13 03:54:35 PM  
On weekends when I'm making Carne Adovado and I have the time, I'll break out the tortilla press and make fresh corn tortillas.  There's nothing better.  But, on a Wednesday evening when I'm trying to figure out what to do with some leftover chicken, stir fry rice, and half a jalapeno, it's always flours tortillas that save the day.
 
2018-01-13 03:58:39 PM  

moothemagiccow: No
corn tortillas are better
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Not better. Just different.
 
2018-01-13 03:59:34 PM  
I never had a "real" flour tortilla until I moved to San Antonio. Up to that time, I'd only ever had the paper-thin industrialized ones that are ubiquitous elsewhere. The first time I had one in Texas, I couldn't believe the difference: they were thick, bready and chewy, but most of all, they had flavor. They were delicious, a meal in themselves. They just make whatever you put on or in them taste better. Man, I wish I had some hot outta the cocina right now.
 
2018-01-13 04:00:07 PM  

cretinbob: corn tortillas or die


Preach!
 
2018-01-13 04:03:26 PM  

SoCalChris: Flour tortillas are ok, but nothing beats a freshly made corn tortilla.

Find a taco truck that makes homemade tortillas, and you're golden.

"Dos tacos de lengua, y un de cabeza con todo, por favor" - Only words you need to know to have a good time at a taco truck. Substitute carnitas and carne asada if you're less adventurous.


Tongue and head?

*barf*
 
2018-01-13 04:09:04 PM  

Krieghund: I love me a good flour tortilla.

But subby:
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I remember a thread a ways back about what your favorite burrito was, and "wraps are burritos".

In jest/protest, I described a Reuben sandwich.

What was funny, is that a couple people took me seriously.
 
2018-01-13 04:12:41 PM  
I always keep both in the house. Tacos absolutely have to be corn, same with enchiladas but we use flour for burritos and quesadillas.
 
2018-01-13 04:15:08 PM  

whosits_112: SoCalChris: Flour tortillas are ok, but nothing beats a freshly made corn tortilla.

Find a taco truck that makes homemade tortillas, and you're golden.

"Dos tacos de lengua, y un de cabeza con todo, por favor" - Only words you need to know to have a good time at a taco truck. Substitute carnitas and carne asada if you're less adventurous.

Tongue and head?

*barf*


Don't knock it until you've tried it. The tongue is like the most tender roast you'll ever have, it's extremely tender and flavorful. The head isn't brain or anything, it's the muscles in the head. It's very fatty, very tender, and tastes farking incredible. Don't be afraid to try them if you get a chance.
 
2018-01-13 04:15:29 PM  

blodyholy: cretinbob: corn tortillas or die

Preach!


Don't eat white bread either
 
2018-01-13 04:17:14 PM  
I once used them for lutefisk roll-ups when I ran out of potato lefse.  It was then that I realized I would always be a Midwesterner.
 
2018-01-13 04:19:45 PM  
Corn is of the Americas. Wheat/flour was imported.

Besides, Chicomecoátl, the goddess of corn, will smite you and your flour quesadilla.

And flour chilaquiles? As if!
 
2018-01-13 04:28:12 PM  

SoCalChris: whosits_112: SoCalChris: Flour tortillas are ok, but nothing beats a freshly made corn tortilla.

Find a taco truck that makes homemade tortillas, and you're golden.

"Dos tacos de lengua, y un de cabeza con todo, por favor" - Only words you need to know to have a good time at a taco truck. Substitute carnitas and carne asada if you're less adventurous.

Tongue and head?

*barf*

Don't knock it until you've tried it. The tongue is like the most tender roast you'll ever have, it's extremely tender and flavorful. The head isn't brain or anything, it's the muscles in the head. It's very fatty, very tender, and tastes farking incredible. Don't be afraid to try them if you get a chance.


I've had lengua before. It wasn't that pleasant, I must say. And if "cabeza" is similar to barbacoa, then I can concede that part. I had read about tacos made with cow eyes before, and was hoping you weren't referring to something similar.

I get queasy when the subject of eating organs pops up.
 
2018-01-13 04:36:48 PM  

whosits_112: SoCalChris: Flour tortillas are ok, but nothing beats a freshly made corn tortilla.

Find a taco truck that makes homemade tortillas, and you're golden.

"Dos tacos de lengua, y un de cabeza con todo, por favor" - Only words you need to know to have a good time at a taco truck. Substitute carnitas and carne asada if you're less adventurous.

Tongue and head?

*barf*


You misspelled ***YUM***
 
2018-01-13 04:37:40 PM  

rcain: "Recent Mexican immigrants deride flour tortillas as a gringo quirk... The American capital of flour tortillas, though, is Arizona, where they are prepared in a manner virtually identical to that of the ones across the border in Sonora"

This article contradicts itself and the author seems completely unaware that Mexico, like the US is made up of vastly different regions called States which have their own cultural quirks and tastes.

Just had some fresh hand made harina tortillas Thursday morning at a little road side shack popular with Truckers just outside of Santa Ana in Sonora during a pit stop on the drive down from Puerto Peñasco, and my god they were delicious


...literally the sentence right before the part you reference says:

"The trend for young, middle-class Mexican-Americans in Southern California today is to seek artisan flour tortillas de agua, prepped in the airy, translucent style of the Mexican state of Sonora, with only flour, water, and salt."

/Read the whole damn thing and don't skim before you try to suggest you know more than the writer
 
2018-01-13 04:38:53 PM  

whosits_112: SoCalChris: whosits_112: SoCalChris: Flour tortillas are ok, but nothing beats a freshly made corn tortilla.

Find a taco truck that makes homemade tortillas, and you're golden.

"Dos tacos de lengua, y un de cabeza con todo, por favor" - Only words you need to know to have a good time at a taco truck. Substitute carnitas and carne asada if you're less adventurous.

Tongue and head?

*barf*

Don't knock it until you've tried it. The tongue is like the most tender roast you'll ever have, it's extremely tender and flavorful. The head isn't brain or anything, it's the muscles in the head. It's very fatty, very tender, and tastes farking incredible. Don't be afraid to try them if you get a chance.

I've had lengua before. It wasn't that pleasant, I must say. And if "cabeza" is similar to barbacoa, then I can concede that part. I had read about tacos made with cow eyes before, and was hoping you weren't referring to something similar.

I get queasy when the subject of eating organs pops up.


I guess my favorite taco would probably bother you then.

/It's buche
//Pig stomach
 
2018-01-13 04:39:15 PM  

moothemagiccow: No corn tortillas are better


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2018-01-13 04:40:23 PM  
Ever check the sodium in them?

/sigh
 
2018-01-13 04:42:07 PM  
Not made with tortillas:

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2018-01-13 04:46:43 PM  
If it is a flour tortilla, it is not a tortilla. Except only by its shape. Corn only please.
 
2018-01-13 04:46:59 PM  
Mrs. Skyking learned to make flour tortillas a while back.  Also, New Mexico style red chile, which has nothing to do with the chili you buy in a can (for the people unfamiliar with NM chile).  Her green chile was already good; the red is trickier because you have to make a roux.
 
2018-01-13 04:52:04 PM  

eyeq360: A proper Mexican sandwich is made with a bolillo.
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Yup.

Seems to me the a tortilla is the worst way to ingest grain or corn. Let's move on. The Aztec are gone.
 
2018-01-13 04:52:31 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Corn tortillas are good if you're having a street taco, but flour tortillas are important for any kind of serious Mexican meal.


Flour tortillas are for burritos, or heavy meals requiring something to mop up the sauce or something to set it all on to keep the plate clean.
 
2018-01-13 04:54:06 PM  
Ive got a taco trailer near where I used to work where the corn tortillas are handmade and delicious.  Get them with your tacos (traditional is carnitas, onions, queso fresco and cilantro) or to go 5 for a dollar.  I actually go with carnitas, grilled onions, queso fresco and lettuce.  I hate cilantro.  Anyway Id take those corn tortillas over a flour tortilla any day.  Flour tortillas have their place, namely for burritos and quesadillas. The trailer actually started offering quesadillas last time I was there.  They were pretty damn good.  Big ass carnitas quesadilla for less than $5? Yes please.
 
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