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2018-01-13 08:46:43 AM  
Just goes to show, Canada can make some bone head dip stick moves too.

See: the kid who died of an asthma attack in 2012 because the school wouldn't allow him to carry a puffer.
 
2018-01-13 09:54:09 AM  
Now if only we could convince the "leaders" in the U.S. to view the magical invisible sky men they currently take orders from as a lighthearted joke.
 
2018-01-13 09:54:26 AM  
If it's for fun and not fraud, who cares?

Palmistry pretenders and tarot tricksters will now run amok!

Amok, I say!
 
2018-01-13 09:54:36 AM  
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Relieved
 
2018-01-13 09:55:07 AM  
As long as the magic is at least 51% Canadian magic.
 
2018-01-13 09:55:40 AM  
Unfortunately, it's still illegal in Canada to put squirrels down your pants for the purposes of gambling.
 
2018-01-13 09:56:47 AM  
This is dumb. The law specifically states the fraud regarding magic. Basically it protects people from claiming to be magic and taking your money. It doesn't involve people dressing up for fun or religious reasons or whatever.
 
2018-01-13 09:57:59 AM  
Goody Fishwife most dismayed
 
2018-01-13 09:59:07 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Unfortunately, it's still illegal in Canada to put squirrels down your pants for the purposes of gambling.


They can catch and charge me if they want me to stop. The squirrel is willing enough, as long as he gets to touch nuts.
 
2018-01-13 09:59:48 AM  
"an occult or crafty science"

Science is finally legal again!  Take that, science haters!
 
2018-01-13 10:00:57 AM  
"...help prevent people from fraud and being manipulated by false promises."

Hmm, sounds like there's a law on the books against the Prosperity Gospel freaks...
 
2018-01-13 10:01:45 AM  

Speef: Now if only we could convince the "leaders" in the U.S. to view the magical invisible sky men they currently take orders from as a lighthearted joke.


Two posts, not bad but we can do better
 
2018-01-13 10:05:53 AM  
So, it's not 'Strictly Taboo' any more?

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2018-01-13 10:07:21 AM  
The law seems to specify "pretends". Which means it's really aimed at the muggles.
 
2018-01-13 10:07:52 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Unfortunately, it's still illegal in Canada to put squirrels down your pants for the purposes of gambling.


What about cat juggling? What's the policy on that in the great north unknown?

Asking for a friend. He's a real jerk.
 
2018-01-13 10:09:19 AM  
Good news for weaver95
 
2018-01-13 10:09:25 AM  

big pig peaches: The law seems to specify "pretends". Which means it's really aimed at the muggles.


It's the squib mudbloods that are the real problem.
 
2018-01-13 10:10:33 AM  
Do you want it to be colder than a witch's tit? Because that's how you make it colder than a witch's tit.
 
2018-01-13 10:10:39 AM  
The conservatives make an excellent point that the law exists to protect people from fraud.  We should amend the law so that it is okay to pretend to have supernatural powers, so long as you are not using the claim of being able to talk to spiritual forces, in order to make money off the unsuspecting...wait that would make all religions illegal.
 
2018-01-13 10:17:52 AM  
"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance"

― Carl SaganThe Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

Real cool guys.
 
2018-01-13 10:19:11 AM  
The only catch is that you have to cast spells in both French and English.
 
2018-01-13 10:19:42 AM  
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2018-01-13 10:26:52 AM  
So let's say you try to poison your husband with what you believe to be rat poison. However, the rat poison turns out to be an innocuous substance. That's attempted murder even though you acted on an incorrect assumption. Intent and action were present.

Now let's say you cast a spell on a person which you believe will kill them. Intent and action are present. Is that attempted murder? Why or why not?
 
2018-01-13 10:32:26 AM  
Dungeons and Dragons 'larpers', which I do not know much about but which my staff assure me is a thing

LOL.
 
2018-01-13 10:38:59 AM  
What am I supposed to do with all these ducks and scales now?
 
2018-01-13 10:45:59 AM  

Arthen: "... when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few..."

Real cool guys.


The trick is to do everything in your power to make sure that you're one of the "very few".
 
2018-01-13 10:48:42 AM  
Satoris seen celebrating in a field somewhere..

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2018-01-13 11:02:56 AM  
Homeopathic Medicine prohibited?
It's magic for money, isn't it?
 
2018-01-13 11:10:22 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: So let's say you try to poison your husband with what you believe to be rat poison. However, the rat poison turns out to be an innocuous substance. That's attempted murder even though you acted on an incorrect assumption. Intent and action were present.

Now let's say you cast a spell on a person which you believe will kill them. Intent and action are present. Is that attempted murder? Why or why not?


Possibly, but since you apparently believe magical spells will work, you are obviously not mentally competent to be tried for the crime.
 
2018-01-13 11:14:39 AM  
Calm down, fear mongers. Canada does indeed have laws against fraud which already encompass the scenario dreamt up by the tories.
 
2018-01-13 11:24:28 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Dungeons and Dragons 'larpers', which I do not know much about but which my staff assure me is a thing

LOL.


I thought all of the cool kid larpers did Vampire: the Masquerade. or at least that's what a friend told me
 
2018-01-13 11:26:52 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: So let's say you try to poison your husband with what you believe to be rat poison. However, the rat poison turns out to be an innocuous substance. That's attempted murder even though you acted on an incorrect assumption. Intent and action were present.

Now let's say you cast a spell on a person which you believe will kill them. Intent and action are present. Is that attempted murder?


Nope.

Why or why not?

Because with the "rat poison" a credible attempt was made, even if it didn't work out, while merely chanting some pseudo-Latin is never going to be a credible threat. A person who found out (s)he took a teaspoon from the wrong package might try again with real rat poison. A person who found out the spell didn't work might try a different spell, which also won't work.

/If we consider spells to be attempted murder, would it count as an "attempted murder" when you tell someone to drop dead?
 
2018-01-13 11:34:13 AM  
FTA:

Wayne Stetski Kootenay, an NDP MP, ..."In addition to the fact that it impinges on the rights of some religions, and would confuse the U.S. President who is certain that he is the target of a witch hunt....."

*snert* nice job getting a jab in there at he who shall not be named!
 
2018-01-13 11:48:50 AM  
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2018-01-13 11:50:39 AM  
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2018-01-13 11:53:11 AM  
I think the key word in the law is "fraudulently". The people complaining about the law want to make fraud legal, as long as you call it "witchcraft" or "sorcery". Not a good idea. I'm thinking we're going to see lots of self-described "financial wizards" getting out of jail free.

If your kid dresses up and plays Harry Potter, there's no problem. If your kid buys a "magic broom" and tries to jump off a building because the seller told him it's real, he needs help, and the seller needs to be punished.
 
2018-01-13 12:04:16 PM  
So until now, all Canadian witches were naughty witches?
 
2018-01-13 12:08:19 PM  

holdmybones: Thong_of_Zardoz: Unfortunately, it's still illegal in Canada to put squirrels down your pants for the purposes of gambling.

What about cat juggling? What's the policy on that in the great north unknown?

Asking for a friend. He's a real jerk.


Is it this guy?

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Christ, what an asshole.
 
2018-01-13 12:09:26 PM  
Wow... that explains my "cool story" -
In the early 90s, as an embedded systems developer, I was traveling a lot in Canada, helping to install industrial systems. Flying into Edmonton, a customs officer spotted my Ultima VI spell book, which prompted him to begin grilling me about my supposedly practicing witchcraft.

My thoughts at the time were like "WTF? I thought you guys had freedom of religion?"
 
2018-01-13 12:12:45 PM  

slackananda: holdmybones: Thong_of_Zardoz: Unfortunately, it's still illegal in Canada to put squirrels down your pants for the purposes of gambling.

What about cat juggling? What's the policy on that in the great north unknown?

Asking for a friend. He's a real jerk.

Is it this guy?

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Christ, what an asshole.


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2018-01-13 12:17:12 PM  
I put on my robe and wizard hat. And hockey skates
 
2018-01-13 12:18:32 PM  
We were witchy witchy white women - Electric Six - Flashy
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2018-01-13 12:24:56 PM  
As Canadian dice-chuckin' pen & paper roleplayer back in my university days and a card-carrying member of my university's roleplaying guild, even we made fun of the LARPers.

Lightning bolt!  Lightning bolt!
 
2018-01-13 12:29:25 PM  

Bmorrison: ArcadianRefugee: Dungeons and Dragons 'larpers', which I do not know much about but which my staff assure me is a thing

LOL.

I thought all of the cool kid larpers did Vampire: the Masquerade. or at least that's what a friend told me


I don't know about the cool kids, but that's where all the hot girl larper's are.
 
2018-01-13 12:31:49 PM  

LesserEvil: Wow... that explains my "cool story" -
In the early 90s, as an embedded systems developer, I was traveling a lot in Canada, helping to install industrial systems. Flying into Edmonton, a customs officer spotted my Ultima VI spell book, which prompted him to begin grilling me about my supposedly practicing witchcraft.

My thoughts at the time were like "WTF? I thought you guys had freedom of religion?"


The real problem was that you went to Edmonton. And brought a book.
 
2018-01-13 12:34:57 PM  

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maybe you're just not hip enough
Decorator: Part 1 - The Kids in the Hall
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2018-01-13 01:34:17 PM  

winedrinkingman: The conservatives make an excellent point that the law exists to protect people from fraud.  We should amend the law so that it is okay to pretend to have supernatural powers, so long as you are not using the claim of being able to talk to spiritual forces, in order to make money off the unsuspecting...wait that would make all religions illegal.


The law as written is already a fraud law.  It's got nothing to do with dressing up or religious beliefs.  It's about clarifying that a particular sort of con is illegal.  You can still engage in fortune telling for novelty, religious or entertainment purposes.
 
2018-01-13 01:34:40 PM  
Just in time to apply to the Chair for the Study of Conjuring Arts at Carleton University
 https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada​/a​re-you-the-magic-candidate-for-new-con​juring-arts-job-at-ottawa-university-1​.3756751
 
2018-01-13 01:35:31 PM  
But is it still strictly taboo?
 
2018-01-13 01:36:13 PM  
Ha! Ha!

H.P. Lovecraft, bite me!
 
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