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(National Post)   Woman wants cab driver fired after he left her son on a rural road in -37 C weather, which is the temperature at which most Canadians will start to consider putting on a hat   ( nationalpost.com) divider line
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2018-01-03 12:01:22 PM  
22 votes:
I gotta go with the son on this one.  He told the driver how much he had and the driver agreed to drive him...
2018-01-03 12:33:22 PM  
20 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: I gotta go with the son on this one.  He told the driver how much he had and the driver agreed to drive him...


What doesn't make sense to me is why he still had the meter running. If you hop into a cab, tell the driver how much you have, he says that it's enough to get you home then you've agreed on a $40 flat rate. He should turn off the meter and drive you to your intended destination.

Unless the kid saw the meter running and it hit $40 so he decided on his own to get out because he thought he might be causing trouble and he'd walk the rest home. Apparently he said, "mom I don't want to bug you" when he eventually called her for a ride, so that might just be how he is.
2018-01-03 12:27:38 PM  
15 votes:
Yeah, at the VERY least, the cab driver lets the guy out and IMMEDIATELY radios dispatch to tell them what's up. It gives him some kind of credibility, especially as it would show that he was concerned with the weather. Instead, just dumping him out and driving off doesn't make him look at all worried about the kid's chances of surviving.

Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?
2018-01-03 12:57:25 PM  
14 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: Bedstead Polisher: bigfatbuddhist: I gotta go with the son on this one.  He told the driver how much he had and the driver agreed to drive him...

What doesn't make sense to me is why he still had the meter running. If you hop into a cab, tell the driver how much you have, he says that it's enough to get you home then you've agreed on a $40 flat rate. He should turn off the meter and drive you to your intended destination.

Unless the kid saw the meter running and it hit $40 so he decided on his own to get out because he thought he might be causing trouble and he'd walk the rest home. Apparently he said, "mom I don't want to bug you" when he eventually called her for a ride, so that might just be how he is.

[rereads post]  Actually, that makes sense...


At which point the cabbie should have said, "Fark you kid, someone at your house can pay me or I'll eat the loss before I read about your frozen corpse being found in a snowbank in the spring."

If the kid insists on getting out and walking in that weather you radio in to have them send the cops or you call the cops yourself and let them handle the idiot.  You don't leave someone dressed that way in that weather to, quite likely, expire.
2018-01-03 12:57:39 PM  
13 votes:

Bedstead Polisher: bigfatbuddhist: I gotta go with the son on this one.  He told the driver how much he had and the driver agreed to drive him...

What doesn't make sense to me is why he still had the meter running. If you hop into a cab, tell the driver how much you have, he says that it's enough to get you home then you've agreed on a $40 flat rate. He should turn off the meter and drive you to your intended destination.

Unless the kid saw the meter running and it hit $40 so he decided on his own to get out because he thought he might be causing trouble and he'd walk the rest home. Apparently he said, "mom I don't want to bug you" when he eventually called her for a ride, so that might just be how he is.


That kind of sounds like something I'd have done at 19. Very polite, unassertive, and the decision making skills of a 19 year old.
2018-01-03 12:33:19 PM  
9 votes:
I travelled to Winnipeg in February a few years ago. It was there that I learned the -40 is where the Fahrenheit and Celsius scales meet.

I could have gone a lifetime not knowing that.
2018-01-03 12:36:52 PM  
8 votes:
Giving the driver more money upon arrival was not an option?
2018-01-03 12:55:48 PM  
7 votes:

Snarfangel: Woman wants cab driver fired after he left her son on a rural road in -37 C weather

Iced is the word you are looking for. She wants the cab driver iced.


Dont bring me into this.

Maybe the son is just dumb. I knew a girl that once she realized she had left her pass at home wanted to leave the train in the middle of nowhere and just remain there, late at night just so she wouldnt have to talk to the ticket audit guy and explain the situation or ask one of the persons with her to pay for her ticket. Some people push shyness into dumb situations.
2018-01-03 12:38:29 PM  
7 votes:

Mikey1969: Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?

Terpsma said her son had been drinking that night but was not drunk or belligerent.


Kids who drink don't make the best decisions. I'm not sure mom is getting the whole truth.
2018-01-03 12:16:17 PM  
7 votes:
It's possible the cabbie is telling the truth, but the optics on this are not good given local history.
2018-01-03 12:00:52 PM  
6 votes:
Jesus Christ, positive 37 degrees would make me try to find a Tauntaun to crawl into.
2018-01-03 12:44:49 PM  
5 votes:
Sounds like cab driver saw an easy way to make a few bucks, never thought he would get caught.  Probably figured he was dealing with a drunk frat bro.  Cab company better do something, just to save face, unless they've got a recording of the kid demanding to be let out of the cab.
2018-01-03 12:32:20 PM  
5 votes:
*sigh*
*Puts on old man beard*

Back in my day, they'd only close down the schools for -50F and below, and yes, I'd walk a mile in the snow to and from the buss stop every day.

/Uphill, both ways.
//Dry cold is manageable with proper cloths. Just don't stop moving.
///Cabbie is still an idiot.
2018-01-03 01:46:46 PM  
4 votes:
Years ago I took the VIA rail from Vancouver to Toronto during the winter.  We stopped outside of some small town for a passenger to exit. It was -30 and no one was there to pick the person up, so the engineer backed the train up until we we're near houses and a road crossing.  The engineer then informed the rest of the passengers we were waiting until the person entered one of the houses to wait for their ride.

I never expected that level of customer  service from a train company.
2018-01-03 01:04:00 PM  
4 votes:

Wave Of Anal Fury: Wearing just a hat and a hoodie, pants and dress shoes

Although I side with the kid, if this is the way he dressed in that weather, Darwin will eventually claim him.


FTFA: "He was ringing in the new year with friends before they took a limo to The Ranch bar in south Edmonton, but they had to wait in line outside and he decided he'd rather go home.

Terpsma said her son gave his coat to his girlfriend so she could have another layer against the cold"

Nice kid who left his coat with his girlfriend because she was going to be waiting outside and he was taking a cab. Sounds like he was dressed appropriately when you do not expect to be outside long.
2018-01-03 12:59:19 PM  
4 votes:

Bawdy George: bigfatbuddhist: I gotta go with the son on this one.  He told the driver how much he had and the driver agreed to drive him...

I'd like to see the follow-up to this one, because that kid's story sounds like unmitigated bullshiat to me.


He's Canadian.  They aren't like us...
2018-01-03 12:54:35 PM  
4 votes:
You don't leave someone outside in that weather in that condition. Period. Unless the kid was punching the cabbie you can't excuse it.
2018-01-03 12:36:56 PM  
4 votes:

Toxophil: //Dry cold is manageable with proper cloths. Just don't stop moving.


Oh, I've had far worse days in +4C here in Malmö at 85% humidity and blowing, than I had in Norrland with -19C and dryasabone. Same clothes, too.
2018-01-03 12:25:25 PM  
4 votes:

Mugato: Jesus Christ, positive 37 degrees would make me try to find a Tauntaun to crawl into.


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2018-01-03 02:03:56 PM  
3 votes:
19? He's a grown man. He should be smart enough to not go out in that kind of weather in just a hoodie and shouldn't need his mommy to fight his battles for him.  Or cuddle him to warm him up ewwwww.
2018-01-03 01:05:25 PM  
3 votes:

WTP 2: walk and THEN call ???
i would have called the second i got out.
yep, something is weird here...


Don't leave his friends and coat behind.  Call his mom instead of the cab.  Call his mom while in the cab watching the fare approach 40 bucks.  Tell the cab driver he has a debit card.  Tell the cab driver his mom would come outside to pay.   Call his mom as soon as he exited the cab.
2018-01-03 12:57:31 PM  
3 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: I gotta go with the son on this one.  He told the driver how much he had and the driver agreed to drive him...


I'd like to see the follow-up to this one, because that kid's story sounds like unmitigated bullshiat to me.
2018-01-03 12:54:38 PM  
3 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: I gotta go with the son on this one.  He told the driver how much he had and the driver agreed to drive him...


This. He'd have likely stayed with his friends or found other transportation otherwise.
2018-01-03 12:29:37 PM  
3 votes:
FTFA: More than anything, she said, her son is shy of the media attention he's getting and embarrassed that he got out of the cab in the first place.

Thanks Mom!
2018-01-03 03:32:06 PM  
2 votes:

Prince George: 19? He's a grown man. He should be smart enough to not go out in that kind of weather in just a hoodie and shouldn't need his mommy to fight his battles for him.  Or cuddle him to warm him up ewwwww.


Grown people make bad decisions from time to time.  I would hope that if I made such a foolish decision someone would care enough to step in and say "Hey I can't just stand by and watch something terrible happen to you."
2018-01-03 02:04:00 PM  
2 votes:

mama2tnt: He should've decided to have an adventure instead:

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Stealing it...because, at 16 yrs old, my best friend in high school did exactly this. He drove to my house. Twenty minutes after we left, he told me where the car came from.

/it was a hotel on Miami Beach
//gotdammit, David!
///ditched it 2 miles from hotel
2018-01-03 02:00:16 PM  
2 votes:

Richard Saunders: Article says he walked twenty minutes (approx. 1 km) before calling mom.


Right.   There were half a dozen choices he made that resulted in him being in the cold for more than a few minutes.
2018-01-03 01:51:13 PM  
2 votes:

Bedstead Polisher: He should turn off the meter and drive you to your intended destination.


In Alberta it's mostly illegal to run without the meter except for regulated flat-rate routes.  It's to protect tourists from being gouged and to prevent drivers from working under the table.  Meters are even sealed to prevent tampering.  He was supposed to shut off the meter at the agreed price.
2018-01-03 01:07:26 PM  
2 votes:

ReverendLoki: henryhill: Giving the driver more money upon arrival was not an option?

FTFA:

He knows now that he could have told the cabbie that he had a bank card he could use, or that his mother could pay him the rest of the fare at home.

"It never even crossed his mind."


Yup. This is where the underdeveloped kid brain took over. A true "duh!" moment.
2018-01-03 01:05:55 PM  
2 votes:

Nick Nostril: Our resident Canadian here at work (alright, actually from Milwaukee, but sounds Canadian and is close enough anyway) wore a coat to work today. That should be cause for closing our place of business due to weather.


Got a call today that my youngest son went to school without a coat... it's 5 degrees (F) out.  Granted we live half a mile from school but I was like WTF.  He said he couldn't find it so he went to school like that.  Freaking kids now I'm sure the school is like wth is wrong with that family.
2018-01-03 12:53:49 PM  
2 votes:
No lie, local school district in WNY has already cancelled classed for FRIDAY in anticipation of cold temps.
2018-01-03 12:45:31 PM  
2 votes:
A few years back now, I called myself a cab to get home from a drunken escapade. When it arrived, and the driver and I were discussing the fare, I realized I had spent my last $20 and had no cash on me. I apologized, and got out. The cabbie advised that he was calling the police because I was trying to skip the fare. We hadn't even driven away. So just before he took off, I stuck my foot in front of his tire, and when he ran it over I screamed like a banshee and told him I was going to sue him and his cab company for every penny they had. He did not call the police.
2018-01-03 12:43:52 PM  
2 votes:
Wearing just a hat and a hoodie, pants and dress shoes

Although I side with the kid, if this is the way he dressed in that weather, Darwin will eventually claim him.
2018-01-03 12:43:15 PM  
2 votes:

Bedstead Polisher: bigfatbuddhist: I gotta go with the son on this one.  He told the driver how much he had and the driver agreed to drive him...

What doesn't make sense to me is why he still had the meter running. If you hop into a cab, tell the driver how much you have, he says that it's enough to get you home then you've agreed on a $40 flat rate. He should turn off the meter and drive you to your intended destination.

Unless the kid saw the meter running and it hit $40 so he decided on his own to get out because he thought he might be causing trouble and he'd walk the rest home. Apparently he said, "mom I don't want to bug you" when he eventually called her for a ride, so that might just be how he is.


[rereads post]  Actually, that makes sense...
2018-01-03 12:34:50 PM  
2 votes:
I believe it's called a toque.

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2018-01-03 12:29:11 PM  
2 votes:
Our resident Canadian here at work (alright, actually from Milwaukee, but sounds Canadian and is close enough anyway) wore a coat to work today. That should be cause for closing our place of business due to weather.
2018-01-04 01:00:18 AM  
1 vote:

lack of warmth: I did read it, and I also know no matter what policy is, a grown 19 yro brat has the right to get out of a cab. What is the cabby going to say?


Hey, genius.  The cab company has a policy of not dropping folks into dangerous situations.  Even if the cabby couldn't stop the kid from getting out, he had a legal responsibility to let someone know about what happened.  Did he?

/I seriously doubt the existence of your kids.
//There may have been offspring, but you're no parent.


Well, aren't you a swell example of humanity.

/At least we know what you are, right?
2018-01-04 12:57:06 AM  
1 vote:

madethistopost: Sign of the ages and helicopter mom has her son wrapped in bubble wrap.  No need for you to take responsibility son, we will just hold everyone else accountable.  As the mother of a 19 year old son who you are still breast feeding by going to the news,  should you not have made sure he had enough money?  To have the cabbie lose his job over your little special flower not being prepared by your lack of parenting is disgraceful. I only hope she reads Fark (but we all know she probably doesn't)


Which does nothing to excuse the cabbie.  It doesn't matter one whit what the kid did or didn't do, or how much extrapolating you do.  Cabbies cannot abandon their fares in dangerous circumstances. That's not a difficult concept.
2018-01-04 12:02:28 AM  
1 vote:

lack of warmth: knobmaker: What surprises me a little about the Fark reaction to this story is the number of stupid Farkers who actually believe the cabby. I have to assume they've never taken a cab in their entire bucolic lives.

Stupid Farkers? I take it you don't have much experience with kids who do something stupid, then cover for themselves by telling mom a different story.


I take it you didn't read the article.  The cabbie violated the policy of his own company, as well as basic human decency, so it doesn't matter at all if the kid lied about what happened.  The maturity or judgment of the kid has nothing to do with the fact that the cabby farked up by the standards of his own employer.

/to be fair, my kids are a lot smarter than the Farkers who didn't bother to read the whole article before jumping on the get off my lawn bus.
2018-01-03 11:31:32 PM  
1 vote:

Mikey1969: mongbiohazard: Mikey1969: Yeah, at the VERY least, the cab driver lets the guy out and IMMEDIATELY radios dispatch to tell them what's up. It gives him some kind of credibility, especially as it would show that he was concerned with the weather. Instead, just dumping him out and driving off doesn't make him look at all worried about the kid's chances of surviving.

Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?

Why would anyone who has done anything blatantly stupid and unwise have done it? No idea.... but it happens. If you've ever had a job where you interact with the general population at large on a regular basis you'd have dealt with people many, many times who make choices so obviously stupid that you wonder how the fark they managed to get out of their own house alive again today.

So sure, the cabby's assertion is quite possibly BS...... but it's also possible he's telling the truth. This young man doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier. I could go either way.

And what the cabbie SHOULD do in a situation like this is call dispatch at the very least and report this immediately. And that's the least... In reality, he should call the police and mention it, so they at least know where to look for the frozen body.


Absolutely.
2018-01-03 07:37:15 PM  
1 vote:

knobmaker: What surprises me a little about the Fark reaction to this story is the number of stupid Farkers who actually believe the cabby.  I have to assume they've never taken a cab in their entire bucolic lives.


Stupid Farkers?  I take it you don't have much experience with kids who do something stupid, then cover for themselves by telling mom a different story.  Because if you had, you would understand why they're not jumping on the cabbie with full force rage.  I'm not going to jump on the cabby either, the kid may have decided to get out, thinking the meter was going to continue to run, and he'll get in trouble for the amount.  I'm calling him a kid, because he seems to lack life experiences to survive on his own.  I have a bro in his 30s who would screw this up.  Are there bad cabbies out there, sure, but don't always assume anything.
2018-01-03 06:32:28 PM  
1 vote:
What surprises me a little about the Fark reaction to this story is the number of stupid Farkers who actually believe the cabby.  I have to assume they've never taken a cab in their entire bucolic lives.
2018-01-03 04:23:06 PM  
1 vote:
Adult makes series of bad decisions.

Mommy wants someone else to lose their job for that.
2018-01-03 03:35:13 PM  
1 vote:

NotThatGuyAgain: Two stories, one from the cabbie and one from someone who had been drinking.  Meh, flip a coin.


If the kid had been drinking it actually makes it worse for the driver.

"It's policy that drivers don't drop off passengers when it's unsafe - even if they don't have money, Strong said."
2018-01-03 03:08:14 PM  
1 vote:

mongbiohazard: Mikey1969: Yeah, at the VERY least, the cab driver lets the guy out and IMMEDIATELY radios dispatch to tell them what's up. It gives him some kind of credibility, especially as it would show that he was concerned with the weather. Instead, just dumping him out and driving off doesn't make him look at all worried about the kid's chances of surviving.

Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?

Why would anyone who has done anything blatantly stupid and unwise have done it? No idea.... but it happens. If you've ever had a job where you interact with the general population at large on a regular basis you'd have dealt with people many, many times who make choices so obviously stupid that you wonder how the fark they managed to get out of their own house alive again today.

So sure, the cabby's assertion is quite possibly BS...... but it's also possible he's telling the truth. This young man doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier. I could go either way.


And what the cabbie SHOULD do in a situation like this is call dispatch at the very least and report this immediately. And that's the least... In reality, he should call the police and mention it, so they at least know where to look for the frozen body.
2018-01-03 02:24:48 PM  
1 vote:

Mikey1969: Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?


Either 1) His parents are the type who would whoop his ass if he showed up at the door with an angry cab driver demanding money, or 2) He has an ego the size of Texas and cannot fathom having to ask his parents for money to bail him out of a situation he put himself in.

I've seen young people do stupider shiat than that rather than ask for help, or admit they farked up.
2018-01-03 02:07:04 PM  
1 vote:

dv-ous: It's possible the cabbie is telling the truth, but the optics on this are not good given local history.


c'mon, rural alberta and saskatoon are way apart.
2018-01-03 01:32:53 PM  
1 vote:

Mikey1969: Yeah, at the VERY least, the cab driver lets the guy out and IMMEDIATELY radios dispatch to tell them what's up. It gives him some kind of credibility, especially as it would show that he was concerned with the weather. Instead, just dumping him out and driving off doesn't make him look at all worried about the kid's chances of surviving.

Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?


Why would anyone who has done anything blatantly stupid and unwise have done it? No idea.... but it happens. If you've ever had a job where you interact with the general population at large on a regular basis you'd have dealt with people many, many times who make choices so obviously stupid that you wonder how the fark they managed to get out of their own house alive again today.

So sure, the cabby's assertion is quite possibly BS...... but it's also possible he's telling the truth. This young man doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier. I could go either way.
2018-01-03 01:27:53 PM  
1 vote:
Every cab I've been in since about 5 years ago has cameras or other recording equipment in them.  Where's the footage from this one?
2018-01-03 01:14:58 PM  
1 vote:

SkipTracer: No lie, local school district in WNY has already cancelled classed for FRIDAY in anticipation of cold temps.


It's going to be -9 in the morning with 13mph winds means it's going to feel like -30+ so according to:
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that means 10mins to get frostbite... I know I've been outside waiting on a bus longer than that.  I don't blame them.
2018-01-03 01:07:35 PM  
1 vote:

Englebert Slaptyback: "We can give you two now, and another fifteen when we reach Alderaan."

We all know how well that worked out.


To be fair, they never did reach Alderaan.
2018-01-03 12:55:09 PM  
1 vote:

Wave Of Anal Fury: Wearing just a hat and a hoodie, pants and dress shoes

Although I side with the kid, if this is the way he dressed in that weather, Darwin will eventually claim him.


Article says he gave his jacket to his girlfriend before getting in the cab.
2018-01-03 12:49:37 PM  
1 vote:

henryhill: Giving the driver more money upon arrival was not an option?


FTFA:

He knows now that he could have told the cabbie that he had a bank card he could use, or that his mother could pay him the rest of the fare at home.

"It never even crossed his mind."
2018-01-03 12:48:42 PM  
1 vote:
Her 19 year old son.
2018-01-03 12:46:09 PM  
1 vote:
walk and THEN call ???
i would have called the second i got out.
yep, something is weird here...
2018-01-03 12:41:04 PM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Jesus Christ, positive 37 degrees would make me try to find a Tauntaun to crawl into.


Yeah but the smell.  You think they smell bad on the outside?
2018-01-03 12:39:57 PM  
1 vote:

Toxophil: *sigh*
*Puts on old man beard*

Back in my day, they'd only close down the schools for -50F and below, and yes, I'd walk a mile in the snow to and from the buss stop every day.

/Uphill, both ways.
//Dry cold is manageable with proper cloths. Just don't stop moving.
///Cabbie is still an idiot.


Yeah, layers are the key. You still don't kick someone out of a cab in the middle of the night when it's that cold, especially if they're just in a hoodie and a hat.

I don't wear much here in Salt Lake(Doesn't get to be -37 very often), even when the temp is down around 0, because you're only cold from the door to the car and vice-versa, so I wouldn't be bundled up, either. I'd have something more substantial than a hoodie, but I wouldn't be dressed like I was going to hang out in Antarctica or anything.
2018-01-03 12:30:50 PM  
1 vote:
Woman wants cab driver fired after he left her son on a rural road in -37 C weather

Iced is the word you are looking for. She wants the cab driver iced.
2018-01-03 12:26:37 PM  
1 vote:

Once Terpsma got him home, she cuddled with him to get his body temperature up, she said.



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