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2018-01-03 01:31:01 PM  
For those of us whose years have given us some 'issues' with safety...

I carry a jug of ice melt in my car to be used as necessary to increase traction.
Sometimes it's so icy that one's feet slide when trying to get out of the car...Not Good.

Carrying the jug of ice melt lets me sprinkle salt in my path so that I don't slip.
It's UGLY when I fall, even if I don't break anything...I need assistance to get back on me feet.
So, "How about we do our best to just not go there?" is my thinking...
 
2018-01-03 01:37:57 PM  

syzygy whizz: For those of us whose years have given us some 'issues' with safety...

I carry a jug of ice melt in my car to be used as necessary to increase traction.
Sometimes it's so icy that one's feet slide when trying to get out of the car...Not Good.

Carrying the jug of ice melt lets me sprinkle salt in my path so that I don't slip.
It's UGLY when I fall, even if I don't break anything...I need assistance to get back on me feet.
So, "How about we do our best to just not go there?" is my thinking...


I've also heard to carry a bag of kitty litter too. Apparently if you get stuck, you can put some kitty litter under the tires for traction and you can sprinkle some out under your feet when you exit your car so you don't slip.

I fell in some ice a few years back. Took nearly a month for me to get better.
 
2018-01-03 01:42:13 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: idrow: My friend in FL keeps saying, "We're freezing here, too.  50 feels like 30, so you have to take that into account."  Meanwhile, I woke up to -1 the other day and could see my breath in my living room.  What kills me is we grew up together in the Adirondack region and she only moved to FL last year.  Didn't take her long to get in the FL mindset.

It's not a mindset, it has something to do with constant hot weather and platelets.  A phlebotomist in FL explained it to me and...you see about all I remember.


My ni-chan was born and raised in Japan, and for some reason he chose Montana as the place to finish his schooling (and I'm glad he did!).

His first winter was a misery to him...until he got acclimated. When he'd go home to Japan to visit his family they were AMAZED at what he considered 'shirt-sleeve weather' and how he didn't feel the need for a jacket when the temp was in the high forties-low fifties (Farenheit...they use Centigrade in Japan).
 
2018-01-03 01:44:11 PM  

steklo: I'm in NY and I don't have any pity for the FLA folks.

Been driving since 1984 or so and I am well aware of my abilities on how to drive in weather related situations. However, I never trust the other guys on the road and find it safer just to stay home and off the roads for my own safety and to save my car from being wrecked by people who don't know how to drive/act in bad snow/ice.

Life is too short for that nonsense.


This sort of highlights the big problem.
Most Floridians probably go out, slip slightly on the way to the car, think sod this and either stay home or find alternate modes of transportation if they don't at least have all-round tires on.

But you'll always have a minority of idiots think "it'll be fine. I got this" and gets behind the wheel with their summer slickest on. And that's the problem.
 
2018-01-03 01:46:40 PM  

Sid_the_sadist: "Hurr durr, you stupid southerners don't know how to drive in snow! 30 degrees isn't cold! Hurr durr"

You're right cupcake, it doesn't happen regularly down here, we're not used to it.
However, this summer, when the heat wave hits you and it's 110 degrees and old people are stroking out and dying, we won't be mocking you for it, we'll just simply say, "Bless your hearts" and send thoughts and prayers your way.

/Because we have class
//You go low, we go high
/// F5 F5 F5 F5


Thirty degrees (Fahrenheit) may not feel cold on short exposure...but it IS below the freezing temperature of water.
That's when things start getting interesting...and potentially dangerous.
I'm just sayin'...
 
2018-01-03 01:51:26 PM  

wickedragon: steklo: I'm in NY and I don't have any pity for the FLA folks.

Been driving since 1984 or so and I am well aware of my abilities on how to drive in weather related situations. However, I never trust the other guys on the road and find it safer just to stay home and off the roads for my own safety and to save my car from being wrecked by people who don't know how to drive/act in bad snow/ice.

Life is too short for that nonsense.

This sort of highlights the big problem.
Most Floridians probably go out, slip slightly on the way to the car, think sod this and either stay home or find alternate modes of transportation if they don't at least have all-round tires on.

But you'll always have a minority of idiots think "it'll be fine. I got this" and gets behind the wheel with their summer slickest on. And that's the problem.


I'm a boring person, just a normal "joe" and when bad weather hits, i'll just stay at home until its safe to go out on the roads again. Even in good weather, I never trust anyone on the roads. Snow/Ice just makes it worse. Why take the chance if I don't have to. The cost of health care, a wrecked car, loss of work, going on disability, dealing with the insurance companies, the court cases, the bullshiat that surrounds a weather related crash is just not worth it when I can stay home, be with family, sit around the fireplace, etc.
 
2018-01-03 02:00:45 PM  

syzygy whizz: How the fark do they manage to clear something like that?!


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2018-01-03 02:04:13 PM  

Mouren: syzygy whizz: Kouta: Meanwhile, in Japan ...

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How the fark do they manage to clear something like that?!

(read awe, admiration...and not a little trepidation into the tone of the words)

Lots of dozers and bowers, apparently.
/I was hoping for a really big machine, Japan style


That was a cool (so to speak...) read, thanks
 
2018-01-03 02:08:38 PM  

lindalouwho: skinink: When Las Vegas got rain, people would continue driving as if there was no rain. But then, they don't get much of it. It wouldn't shock me that Florida would have problems with an inch of snow.

Not an inch, one tenth of an inch.
But they had freezing rain beforehand, so I'd imagine roads were slick.


I'm not buying it. These "tenths of a inch" are like some kind of mythical beast like unicorns or a Detroit Tigers superbowl ring.

Fractions of an inch are measured as fractions. If they said they had received 3/32" I'd believe it.
 
2018-01-03 02:12:57 PM  

phalamir: Also, this is not a condition Florida is used to.  They have not had any chance to develop any experience driving on that type of road conditions.

/Live in SE KY
//From N FL
/// My family have now had more snow this winter than I have.


Well, many of the people who live in Florida are retired from "up north."  They've driven in and dealt with snow and ice before.
 
2018-01-03 02:29:40 PM  
I've lived in Chicago almost my whole life and am used to snow, ice and cold. I take the garbage out when it's 10 degrees wearing only a pair of shorts and shoes. Won't put on a hat until it hits zero and gloves are for when it's -10 and I'm pumping gas. I know how to drive on snow and ice and the only time I ever slipped into a ditch was because the person in front of me downshifted instead of braking so I had no warning that they were slowing down.

I watch people from the southern US freak out when there are only two snowflakes falling and I think about the winter we took a bunch of foreign exchange students to Wisconsin. Kids from southern Italy, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt who had never seen snow except on TV and movies. They loved it! Snowball fights, sledding, building snowmen, learning to ski. It was magical. Sure, the cold was a surprise but they quickly adjusted. Our boy from Italy asked if he could try using our snowblower so I showed him how it worked. He had so much fun he asked if it would be OK if he did the neighbor's driveway. I told him to go for it and went inside. 2 hours later he was back, face red, nose running and grinning from ear to ear, proudly telling how he cleaned a dozen driveways, sidewalks and even the street in front of the mailboxes.

Snow is going to happen, it does every year in almost the entire country. Accept it, prepare yourself, don't panic, be careful and, occasionally, try to look at it through more innocent eyes and you might learn to appreciate its wonder.
 
2018-01-03 02:40:25 PM  
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Been trying to tell you folks to clean up your act.  Now you have really screwed the weather machine
 
2018-01-03 02:40:55 PM  
Mouren:

Awesome. Thank you.

/lernt something new today
 
2018-01-03 03:02:14 PM  

Mouren: Remember Floridians, the yellow snow isn't for eating.


Richard Saunders: Mouren:

Awesome. Thank you.

/lernt something new today

 
2018-01-03 03:18:41 PM  
Reminds me of when my late wife and I were living in Austin, TX. Every 3-4 years, we'd get somewhere between 1'8" and 1/4" of snow - HUUUUGGGEEE drifts, y'know, and no one could remember that far back in history. The city would literally shut down, schools, everything, and half the people would be doing 5mph, and the other half still trying to do 80. And all they had to put on the roads was ashes.

I'd laugh myself silly. My late wife, having lived a few years in north Texas, could drive in it, but didn't care to, so she declared me to be the Designated Yankee.
 
2018-01-03 03:40:48 PM  

steklo: I don't care what anyone says. Driving on ice is treacherous.

4 wheel drive does not always mean, 4 wheel stop.


At least in the snow you have control. You have no control on ice unless you have metal studs or chained tires.
 
2018-01-03 03:43:14 PM  

phalamir: lindalouwho: skinink: When Las Vegas got rain, people would continue driving as if there was no rain. But then, they don't get much of it. It wouldn't shock me that Florida would have problems with an inch of snow.

Not an inch, one tenth of an inch.
But they had freezing rain beforehand, so I'd imagine roads were slick.

Also, this is not a condition Florida is used to.  They have not had any chance to develop any experience driving on that type of road conditions.

/Live in SE KY
//From N FL
/// My family have now had more snow this winter than I have.


You're right, but I lived in St.Pete for a few years, and their sudden intense 15 minute rainstorms every day caused lots of hydroplaning.
I spun around 3 times once (luckily wasn't in an accident), never did that on snow or ice.
 
2018-01-03 03:44:52 PM  

MythDragon: fsufan: lindalouwho: skinink: When Las Vegas got rain, people would continue driving as if there was no rain. But then, they don't get much of it. It wouldn't shock me that Florida would have problems with an inch of snow.

Not an inch, one tenth of an inch.
But they had freezing rain beforehand, so I'd imagine roads were slick.

^^^ This ^^^
I woke up to ice on the car this morning.  Had to scrape it off with a scraper I keep in the trunk that I bought after visiting some friends up north one Christmas.

Handy tip. If you have ice on your windshield, get a pitcher of very hot water. Boiling from the stove. And pour that all over your windshield. Very soon you won't have any ice obscuring your vision.
Ever again.


You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.
 
2018-01-03 03:48:34 PM  

Spikescape: lindalouwho: skinink: When Las Vegas got rain, people would continue driving as if there was no rain. But then, they don't get much of it. It wouldn't shock me that Florida would have problems with an inch of snow.

Not an inch, one tenth of an inch.
But they had freezing rain beforehand, so I'd imagine roads were slick.

I'm not buying it. These "tenths of a inch" are like some kind of mythical beast like unicorns or a Detroit Tigers superbowl ring.

Fractions of an inch are measured as fractions. If they said they had received 3/32" I'd believe it.


Your profile says you break shiat for a living. Many have tried, but the metric system is unbreakable.
 
2018-01-03 03:49:23 PM  
*wishes I could see the headscratching*
 
2018-01-03 03:52:28 PM  

germ78: steklo: I don't care what anyone says. Driving on ice is treacherous.

4 wheel drive does not always mean, 4 wheel stop.

At least in the snow you have control. You have no control on ice unless you have metal studs or chained tires.


Back in the 80s there was one year when we had many feet of snow, total. The next summer, a whole bunch of guys went out and bought 4x4 trucks with snow plow attachments, figuring they were going to pay for the truck by plowing snow. The following winter, there was very little snow but a lot of freezing rain (also known as ice). The guys in the 4x4s would go flying down the road like "WAHOOO! I'M INVINCIBLE!" only to spin out and end up in a ditch. It was a very good winter for tow truck operators.
 
2018-01-03 05:18:15 PM  

lindalouwho: MythDragon: fsufan: lindalouwho: skinink: When Las Vegas got rain, people would continue driving as if there was no rain. But then, they don't get much of it. It wouldn't shock me that Florida would have problems with an inch of snow.

Not an inch, one tenth of an inch.
But they had freezing rain beforehand, so I'd imagine roads were slick.

^^^ This ^^^
I woke up to ice on the car this morning.  Had to scrape it off with a scraper I keep in the trunk that I bought after visiting some friends up north one Christmas.

Handy tip. If you have ice on your windshield, get a pitcher of very hot water. Boiling from the stove. And pour that all over your windshield. Very soon you won't have any ice obscuring your vision.
Ever again.

You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.


I consider a myself a teacher of science.
 
2018-01-03 05:32:24 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: germ78: steklo: I don't care what anyone says. Driving on ice is treacherous.

4 wheel drive does not always mean, 4 wheel stop.

At least in the snow you have control. You have no control on ice unless you have metal studs or chained tires.

Back in the 80s there was one year when we had many feet of snow, total. The next summer, a whole bunch of guys went out and bought 4x4 trucks with snow plow attachments, figuring they were going to pay for the truck by plowing snow. The following winter, there was very little snow but a lot of freezing rain (also known as ice). The guys in the 4x4s would go flying down the road like "WAHOOO! I'M INVINCIBLE!" only to spin out and end up in a ditch. It was a very good winter for tow truck operators.


Yep... When I was living in Ohio and there were snowy/icy conditions on the road, there was always some asshat in a big truck or SUV flying past everyone in the fast lane while the rest of the cars were cautiously crawling along the other two lanes.  And 9 times out of 10, about 5 miles down the road, you'd see them stuck in a ditch or down a ravine with their hazard lights on, standing beside their vehicles looking sheepish.

/Ice doesn't care if you have 4 wheel drive
 
2018-01-03 06:01:41 PM  

lindalouwho: phalamir: lindalouwho: skinink: When Las Vegas got rain, people would continue driving as if there was no rain. But then, they don't get much of it. It wouldn't shock me that Florida would have problems with an inch of snow.

Not an inch, one tenth of an inch.
But they had freezing rain beforehand, so I'd imagine roads were slick.

Also, this is not a condition Florida is used to.  They have not had any chance to develop any experience driving on that type of road conditions.

/Live in SE KY
//From N FL
/// My family have now had more snow this winter than I have.

You're right, but I lived in St.Pete for a few years, and their sudden intense 15 minute rainstorms every day caused lots of hydroplaning.
I spun around 3 times once (luckily wasn't in an accident), never did that on snow or ice.


Phoenicians (the ones in Arizona, not the ancient ones) do incredibly stupid things when it starts raining. They keep going 85 on the freeways in town, until one of the '98 Honda Civics with no tread on the tires starts hydroplaning, hits two more cars, and shuts down the I-10 westbound or the US-60 eastbound. That's when ALL traffic in the Valley of The Sun slows to 35 because they have to take the surface streets if they want to get home before Tomorrow-thirty.

I had to set aside a good chunk of "discretionary" (read "vodak and casino") money from a few paychecks, and dropped the money on some really good Bridgestone all-seasons for up here in the mountains of Arizona. I've got good tread, and with Electronic Stability Control, ABS, and anti-skid, my Camry actually drives better in winter conditions than my 4x4 Subaru. It's actually impressive how good software helps control your car better than dumb luck. I miss my Subie for the ground clearance here in the mountains, but I love how a computer can help me at least a little from making a bonehead mistake. And I'm glad I didn't buy two dedicated winter tires instead because we've had ZERO precipitation since September. It's cold, but we're gearing up for a forest fire up here because it's so damn dry.

My house up here at 7200 feet was 39 degrees at 6:00 yesterday. It was the same at my sister's house in Williston, Florida. That's nuts.
 
2018-01-03 07:08:03 PM  
This is a difficult thread. Florida passed New York in population due to baby boomers retiring, etc., so I'm wondering why we have so many Yankees who can't drive in a bit of snow here? Is it because of the flip-flops?

/native Floridian
//why would you live anywhere where weather makes a difference about what you do day-to-day?
///no, I don't wear socks.
 
2018-01-03 07:50:05 PM  

frisbee3: This is a difficult thread. Florida passed New York in population due to baby boomers retiring, etc., so I'm wondering why we have so many Yankees who can't drive in a bit of snow here? Is it because of the flip-flops?

/native Floridian
//why would you live anywhere where weather makes a difference about what you do day-to-day?
///no, I don't wear socks.


Why would we?
Variety is the spice of life, yo.
 
2018-01-04 01:50:34 AM  
Didn't read the comments, so probably already said before.

As someone from central Illinois living in central Florida, 0.1 inches of snow here is enough to keep me of the roads due to the number of people who have no idea how to drive in such conditions and no city preparation for ice on roads.
 
2018-01-04 02:42:22 AM  

steklo: I've also heard to carry a bag of kitty litter too.


and remember to leave kitty at home.
 
2018-01-04 02:47:05 AM  

EyeHaveRisen:

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Been trying to tell you folks to clean up your act.  Now you have really screwed the weather machine


Wow, manbearpig has gotten fat.
 
2018-01-04 11:16:20 AM  
CoysOdie:
Wow, manbearpig

DRINK!

has gotten fat.

If AL GORE! is wrong because he's "fat", what does that say about the Flim Flam Führer?
 
2018-01-04 01:35:26 PM  
As others have mentioned, the real issue is that FL lacks any equipment to deal with colder temperatures.

Cities don't have road salt nor equipment to spread it with.   Airports don't have deicing equipment.  Many buildings here don't even have heat. The last two places I worked lacked central heat.  Similarly, you can't buy real winter clothes in stores in Florida.   They just don't carry them.

Considering it's probably been ~30-35 years since it's been this cold here, there's no reason to bother with it.  Even up north they have "snow days" where much of the city shuts down due to weather conditions.

/I fired up a stack of decommissioned servers running BOINC last night to help heat this office.  Worked pretty good.
 
2018-01-04 10:18:14 PM  

frisbee3: This is a difficult thread. Florida passed New York in population due to baby boomers retiring, etc., so I'm wondering why we have so many Yankees who can't drive in a bit of snow here? Is it because of the flip-flops?

/native Floridian
//why would you live anywhere where weather makes a difference about what you do day-to-day?
///no, I don't wear socks.


Because the old farks are blind, belligerent and DGAF anymore. Most of them shouldn't be driving.

Floridas weather is wacky. It is sunny and raining at the same time. In the winter we get drowned in rain and in the summer we do even more. It gets cold, down below freezing and then warms up by lunch or its hot and muggy all the time. Most of Florida would be miserable without AC or modern conveniences.

If you want stable reliable weather, move to SoCal.
 
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