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(CBC)   Joshua Boyle, the Canadian man held hostage by the Taliban for five years, appears to have picked up some bad habits from his captors, now faces 15 domestic violence-related criminal charges   ( cbc.ca) divider line
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2018-01-03 10:53:50 AM  
40 votes:
PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.
2018-01-03 10:53:53 AM  
35 votes:
Yep, because he was all sunshine and rainbows before he was captured...
2018-01-03 11:02:51 AM  
32 votes:
I remember a farker in another thread claimed that he knew the both of them before all this via a MMO and claimed that Joshua was an idiotic egotistical edgelord, it's not that far off from abusive chucklefark...

I hope she divorces him and runs off with the kids, he ruined her life.

/Surprised this isn't about why he went to Afganistan in the first place, suspicious af
2018-01-03 11:10:07 AM  
23 votes:

Magorn: robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.

I agree.  hard to im agine how awful that time was, the guy isn;t even sure his kids are his, and while that SHOULDN'T matter to him (speaking as an adoptive father myself) in his case it's a constant reminder that he failed at protecting his wife, that he let other people hurt her and was pwoerless to stop them, and THAT can really leave a mark, but it is still no excuse, because there ARE no excuses for DV (and trust me, working the protective order desk for five years I have heard every single one, and they are all crap)


He failed at protecting the wife he literally led willing into a Taliban camp?
2018-01-03 10:53:50 AM  
21 votes:
I am surprised he is still wearing a beard and she is still in scarfs.   Stockholm syndrome much?
2018-01-03 11:47:11 AM  
19 votes:
As someone who's known them both, Josh was a horrible person before he even was captured. He routinely stalked his ex and threatened suicide to keep in contact with her. So, hopefully this farker goes away for a long, long time.
2018-01-03 11:12:16 AM  
19 votes:
I feel horrible for the victims, but read the story start to finish.  From the fishy backpacking story, to the refusal to get on an American plane, to this.

Guy is a piece of human garbage.
2018-01-03 01:14:23 PM  
17 votes:

whidbey: SirEattonHogg: whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.

I'll bite.  How exactly is it is islamophobic?

It's a fairly straightforward article relatively devoid of commentary.  The use of the word "barbaric" refers to their time in captivity, which I presume is accurate and not an enjoyable time.

subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.


This is why no one takes you seriously. You're a posterchild for what's wrong with identity politics. Subby suggests that a person learned violent behavior from violent terrorists, or barbaric behavior from barbarians, and you immediately fly off the handle about Islam.

It must be a lot of work, being a volunteer victim-by-proxy 24/7.
2018-01-03 10:58:41 AM  
17 votes:

robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.


Yeah, those who aren't caught backpacking around Afghanistan are right in the head. Its the capturing that messes them up.
2018-01-03 11:06:19 AM  
16 votes:

IlGreven: Yep, because he was all sunshine and rainbows before he was captured...


This.
He was a farking mess before and should have been locked up long ago.  Psycho.
2018-01-03 10:57:54 AM  
16 votes:
They cannot mention two of the victims, that might mean their kids, and if that's the case, then this guy needs to be put away for a long time. PTSD or not, that is some unredeemable shiat.
2018-01-03 11:18:25 AM  
15 votes:
This guy's whole story is sketchy as hell and personally I don't believe he's telling the truth about the reasons for taking his pregnant wife backing packing in Afghanistan in the first place.
2018-01-03 11:01:15 AM  
13 votes:
AND our prime minister got his picture taken with him!

/Donald isn't the only idiot leader
2018-01-03 11:19:04 AM  
12 votes:

robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.


I doubt this is just about PTSD.  Who the hell brings their family hiking in Afghanistan?  It makes no sense.
2018-01-03 10:54:24 AM  
11 votes:
Oh but he's a just victim of having been a prisoner and can't 'really' be held responsible for his actions or something, right?
2018-01-03 11:49:50 AM  
10 votes:

Twist2005: Dude's probably been severely farked over by his experience. Hoping that time and a treatment center help him.


I don't really think that much sympathy for him is warranted. For her, yes. For him, no.

Remember, his first wife was Zaynab Khadr, the sister of a radical terrorist killer, Omar Khadr, who was in Guantanamo at the time. Dude lobbied for the release of Omar. Then this guy took his cute little pregnant wife with him to Afghanistan to join the Taliban. Maybe things didn't work out as he planned, maybe they did. He hasn't really released any details publicly. All we know is that he and the wife continue to dress like they are culturally conservative (possibly radical) middle easterners. They guy is a POS and he's apparently decided that he can institute his own little Taliban society in Canada.
2018-01-03 11:05:27 AM  
10 votes:
Send his stupid ass back.
Waste of humanity.
2018-01-03 10:53:54 AM  
10 votes:
Dude's probably been severely farked over by his experience. Hoping that time and a treatment center help him.
2018-01-03 11:05:46 AM  
9 votes:
I feel bad for his wife.  I hope she gets the help and support she needs.
2018-01-03 12:35:51 PM  
8 votes:
The guy's a complete idiot. First he marries into the #1 terrorist family in Canada (Khadr) and after remarrying, he takes a "vacation" to back pack in Afghanistan...sure, vacation. The guy was a dick or a mental case long before he was "captured".
2018-01-03 11:26:04 AM  
8 votes:

robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.


Yeah, no. fark this noise.

PTSD doesn't make you a violent spouse abuser.

/PTSD.
2018-01-03 10:59:55 AM  
8 votes:

Nurglitch: BigNumber12: One count of administering a noxious thing

Really though, let he among us who hasn't done that cast the first stone.

I haven't tried to poison my family, no.


Pssst, he was making a fart joke.
2018-01-03 01:25:23 PM  
7 votes:

BumpInTheNight: whidbey: subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.

I'm kind of serious now:  Are you for real?


FWIW, he's had this tag from me for a while

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2018-01-03 12:56:18 PM  
7 votes:

whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.


OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.
2018-01-03 11:18:40 AM  
7 votes:

Ms Challenge: I feel horrible for the victims, but read the story start to finish.  From the fishy backpacking story, to the refusal to get on an American plane, to this.

Guy is a piece of human garbage.


The backpacking is suspicious, possibly even damning. But getting on a non-American plane is alright with me, he says the wrong things he might have found himself in a US prison on suspicion of joining the Taliban rather than rely on facts. I want the Canadian CSIS to keep an eye on him (and the wife too, as far as I know they both went willingly on this trip), but I don't want him in prison unless he's actually been proven to have done something wrong by a court of law (which these assault and other charges will probably do).
2018-01-03 11:11:21 AM  
7 votes:

groininjury: AND our prime minister got his picture taken with him!

/Donald isn't the only idiot leader


eyeroll
2018-01-03 01:15:05 PM  
6 votes:

whidbey: SirEattonHogg: whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.

I'll bite.  How exactly is it is islamophobic?

It's a fairly straightforward article relatively devoid of commentary.  The use of the word "barbaric" refers to their time in captivity, which I presume is accurate and not an enjoyable time.

subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.


So the Taliban represents all muslims then? One cannot look down on the Taliban or daesh without hating muslims irrationally?
2018-01-03 01:13:42 PM  
6 votes:

whidbey: SirEattonHogg: whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.

I'll bite.  How exactly is it is islamophobic?

It's a fairly straightforward article relatively devoid of commentary.  The use of the word "barbaric" refers to their time in captivity, which I presume is accurate and not an enjoyable time.

subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.


I disagree.  The Taliban is an extremist organization no more representative of a whole faith than say, Westboro Baptists are representative of Christians as a whole.

Being this is Fark, I'll probably get some blowback on the later statement.
2018-01-03 11:18:52 AM  
6 votes:

IlGreven: Yep, because he was all sunshine and rainbows before he was captured...


Was gonna say this.  Seems like he started off as an asshole (exhibit A, big vacation to farking Afghanistan with your pregnant wife duh or crazy or both).
2018-01-03 11:16:11 AM  
6 votes:

craxyd: Oh but he's a just victim of having been a prisoner and can't 'really' be held responsible for his actions or something, right?


This is Canada so yes, we did try to treat mental illnesses seriously and and something to be cured, not armed.
2018-01-03 01:29:49 PM  
5 votes:

whidbey: BumpInTheNight: whidbey: subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.

I'm kind of serious now:  Are you for real?

What's wrong with my objection here? How am I not being clear?


Son, you need better bait then.  Not even the most tone-deaf SJW (DRINK!) would try to equate that headline with suggesting they'd identify his captors as islamic rather then the more specific label of terrorists.  Learning bad behavior from terrorists is the implication, not their faith.

I am now dumber for spelling that out for you, aren't I :(
2018-01-03 01:04:44 PM  
5 votes:

whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.


Man you live up to your tag in every thread.
2018-01-03 11:46:12 AM  
5 votes:
Guy probably wanted to join the Taliban in the first place, he's clearly a POS.
2018-01-03 11:37:33 AM  
5 votes:
Not 

hardinparamedic: robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.

Yeah, no. fark this noise.

PTSD doesn't make you a violent spouse abuser.

/PTSD.


Not to mention he wasn't quite husband of the year before the hostage situation.  Who takes their pregnant wife to do humanitarian work in Taliban controlled towns and not expect things to go south.
2018-01-03 11:06:19 AM  
5 votes:

robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.


I agree.  hard to im agine how awful that time was, the guy isn;t even sure his kids are his, and while that SHOULDN'T matter to him (speaking as an adoptive father myself) in his case it's a constant reminder that he failed at protecting his wife, that he let other people hurt her and was pwoerless to stop them, and THAT can really leave a mark, but it is still no excuse, because there ARE no excuses for DV (and trust me, working the protective order desk for five years I have heard every single one, and they are all crap)
2018-01-03 11:02:00 AM  
5 votes:

robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.


TFA doesn't say anything about Domestic Abuse, although subby assumed it.

"Boyle was charged with:
Eight counts of assault.
Two counts of sexual assault.
Two counts of unlawful confinement.
One count of uttering threats.
One count of public mischief.
One count of administering a noxious thing.
It is alleged the offences happened in Ottawa between Oct. 14 and Dec. 30. The court records show there are two alleged victims, however, their identities are subject to a publication ban and can't be reported. "

We can safely assume PTSD and probably that it is domestic.  I'm actually rather surprised that the whole family isn't in some kind of therapy, if he were from the states I could see not being able to afford it after getting back, because we're so awesome at not providing people with healthcare, but Canada?  Eh?

If it was his wife/kids, I hope they get out alive and all get help.  Living under a PTSD parent sucks enough to make you not want to see adulthood yourself, I know.
2018-01-03 04:32:39 PM  
4 votes:

whidbey: SirEattonHogg: whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.

I'll bite.  How exactly is it is islamophobic?

It's a fairly straightforward article relatively devoid of commentary.  The use of the word "barbaric" refers to their time in captivity, which I presume is accurate and not an enjoyable time.

subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.


His captors, who are not every single Muslim on the planet, or even necessarily representative of the Taliban as a while, both beat and raped his wife, the very things he is accused of doing.  The headline meant no more of less than that

/Subby
2018-01-03 03:34:11 PM  
4 votes:

Twist2005: Dude's probably been severely farked over by his experience. Hoping that time and a treatment center help him.


Given he decided to go backpacking with his family in a war-torn country that generally hates Westerners, I'm going with farked over before as well.
2018-01-03 01:32:52 PM  
4 votes:

whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.


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Oftentimes, those offended by things that aren't there are the ones thinking the same things they're supposedly offended by.
2018-01-03 11:45:20 AM  
4 votes:

dehler: Not hardinparamedic: robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.

Yeah, no. fark this noise.

PTSD doesn't make you a violent spouse abuser.

/PTSD.

Not to mention he wasn't quite husband of the year before the hostage situation.  Who takes their pregnant wife to do humanitarian work in Taliban controlled towns and not expect things to go south.


Someone who isn't there for humanitarian work?
2018-01-03 11:24:31 AM  
4 votes:

shortymac: I remember a farker in another thread claimed that he knew the both of them before all this via a MMO and claimed that Joshua was an idiotic egotistical edgelord, it's not that far off from abusive chucklefark...

I hope she divorces him and runs off with the kids, he ruined her life.

/Surprised this isn't about why he went to Afganistan in the first place, suspicious af


Oh lordy story checks out.  Quotes from this dude are soaked in smarm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/201​7​/oct/13/us-hostage-afghanistan
2018-01-03 11:02:26 AM  
4 votes:
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2018-01-03 04:28:32 PM  
3 votes:
Sounds like the guy was disillusioned when his sojourn in the Ummah came with a "not all Muslims are created equal " lesson from the Taliban.  Lock him up forever.
2018-01-03 01:48:29 PM  
3 votes:

BigNumber12: redmid17: BumpInTheNight: whidbey: subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.

I'm kind of serious now:  Are you for real?

FWIW, he's had this tag from me for a while

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Shoot, you've got plenty of room left there. "Evidence ostrich" is another appropriate one.


I can't and won't give him that. He is just awful at trolling. He's worse at posting legitimate thoughts but man a failed troll is just sad.
2018-01-03 01:22:52 PM  
3 votes:

whidbey: subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.


I'm kind of serious now:  Are you for real?
2018-01-03 12:23:53 PM  
3 votes:

shortymac: FIDoAlmighty82: As someone who's known them both, Josh was a horrible person before he even was captured. He routinely stalked his ex and threatened suicide to keep in contact with her. So, hopefully this farker goes away for a long, long time.

Are you the farker that knew them via the MMO I mentioned in my post?


No, I knew them from a message board they both used to frequent. I actually met him in person when I went to meet my friend and I am friends with his ex as well. We all knew each other. He was always a twisted person.
2018-01-03 12:10:30 PM  
3 votes:
Victims with a publication ban are children, not wives. The dude is having trouble being a father to his children and punishing them appropriately for misadventures.

No matter what he was like before, what he went through, whatever. Imagine what his children went through. You wanna talk about Mr. Boyle having PTSD? The kids. The kids are probably just about impossible to keep a handle on. They were born in captivity. They probably need quite special care now, and Boyle probably doesn't know how to provide that.
2018-01-03 11:39:39 AM  
3 votes:

nijika: IlGreven: Yep, because he was all sunshine and rainbows before he was captured...

Was gonna say this.  Seems like he started off as an asshole (exhibit A, big vacation to farking Afghanistan with your pregnant wife duh or crazy or both).


I keep seeing this sort of thing repeated.

Did his wife not have a say in where they were going?  Wasn't going there something they both did?  Is there any indication he somehow forced her to go?  She was an adult at the time, right?  Not just some possession he had, some porcelain doll that society decided he was responsible for making sure never got hurt (because it's not the doll's job, clearly).
2018-01-03 11:25:18 AM  
3 votes:

rikkards_alt: Bedstead Polisher: drayno76: I'm actually rather surprised that the whole family isn't in some kind of therapy, if he were from the states I could see not being able to afford it after getting back, because we're so awesome at not providing people with healthcare, but Canada? Eh?

Psychologists and psychiatrists are not covered by the universal healthcare. There are a few options for the uninsured but there's often a waitlist (several months in some cases) and it may not be top quality.

There are also psychotherapists which also are not covered by healthcare and in some cases are more than adequate for treating (and usually a bit more affordable). That all said anyone who has insurance coverage through their work would be better off paying out of pocket and using the insurance for something else. Most third party coverages only allow about 500 a year which with psychologists usually starting at $220 an hour you get 2 sessions out of them and the first is usually only intake.


Didn't finish thought. Most who end up using their third party benefits get the first 2 free and then end up moving to a more affordable therapist so they would get better use of their insurance in other ways.
FIL is a psychologist who works the EAP system which the thirdparty providers work mostly through in Ontario, usually at best the client gets 5 sessions covered by EAP and then they are on their own. Most people don't see improvements within that time (if they did they probably didn't need therapy).
Wife is a Psychotherapist who has seen enough people who have wasted their time using the EAP systems.
2018-01-03 11:20:12 AM  
3 votes:

Twist2005: Dude's probably been severely farked over by his experience. Hoping that time and a treatment center help him.


How centered was he to begin with - if he decided that he wanted to take his family hiking in Afghanistan?
2018-01-03 11:12:19 AM  
3 votes:

drayno76: I'm actually rather surprised that the whole family isn't in some kind of therapy, if he were from the states I could see not being able to afford it after getting back, because we're so awesome at not providing people with healthcare, but Canada? Eh?


Psychologists and psychiatrists are not covered by the universal healthcare. There are a few options for the uninsured but there's often a waitlist (several months in some cases) and it may not be top quality.
2018-01-03 06:06:54 PM  
2 votes:

IamAwake: Are people saying that calling their treatment while captive* barbaric, which by all accounts was pretty barbaric, is Islamophobic?


Relax, it's just whidbey.
2018-01-03 04:23:29 PM  
2 votes:

sithon: mrshowrules: sithon: seriously.though: They cannot mention two of the victims, that might mean their kids, and if that's the case, then this guy needs to be put away for a long time. PTSD or not, that is some unredeemable shiat.

No, in Canada victims of sexual assault never have their name released no matter their age.

sithon: seriously.though: They cannot mention two of the victims, that might mean their kids, and if that's the case, then this guy needs to be put away for a long time. PTSD or not, that is some unredeemable shiat.

No, in Canada victims of sexual assault never have their name released no matter their age.

Are you sure about that.  In this case their is a specific publication ban.  I think the names are in the court documents so technically released - the press is just not able to report them.

Publication bans are common in criminal trials in Canada.

Here


Thanks.  The judge has the authority (frequently exercised) but not automatic.  Interesting problem.   I think publication bans are still useful (especially when kids are involved) but it seems they are being applied to frequently and it is not in the public interest.
2018-01-03 02:41:58 PM  
2 votes:
whidbey: subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.


Only if you think ISIS are representative of Muslims in general. Do you?
2018-01-03 02:38:30 PM  
2 votes:

steklo: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x340]


Exactly this guy needs to be watched like a hawk (which is I suspect what's happening.)  The kids, too, since they grew up with these nutjobs.  There you go folks.  A few people with contact with radical Islam in your country, and you need generations of monitoring.  Meanwhile some people want to let in thousands.
2018-01-03 02:02:21 PM  
2 votes:

shortymac: I remember a farker in another thread claimed that he knew the both of them before all this via a MMO and claimed that Joshua was an idiotic egotistical edgelord, it's not that far off from abusive chucklefark...

I hope she divorces him and runs off with the kids, he ruined her life.

/Surprised this isn't about why he went to Afganistan in the first place, suspicious af


That Farker was me. It wasn't via an MMO, but I won't split hairs here. This is of zero surprise to me or anybody else in my group who knew them both. I knew Caitlan more than Josh, but everybody knew that he had issues and that this would bring them out in full force.

Right now, I just want the best for Caitlan and their kids and hope that she can find one damn good divorce attorney, she has been through enough with this shiatshow.
2018-01-03 01:54:04 PM  
2 votes:

LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.


Subby isn't even really slamming the Taliban.  He's taking a shot at the Taliban members who held people captive.

Hell, subby isn't really even attacking the captors.  He basically just saying the captors did the type of things captors do.
2018-01-03 01:28:50 PM  
2 votes:

whidbey: BumpInTheNight: whidbey: subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.

I'm kind of serious now:  Are you for real?

What's wrong with my objection here? How am I not being clear?


Using words in a fashion that belies their meaning, mostly. I am sure you'll muddle it more with non-sensical ranting per usual.
2018-01-03 01:27:48 PM  
2 votes:

whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.


Thou who smelt it, must have dealt it.
2018-01-03 01:05:40 PM  
2 votes:

whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.


I'll bite.  How exactly is it is islamophobic?

It's a fairly straightforward article relatively devoid of commentary.  The use of the word "barbaric" refers to their time in captivity, which I presume is accurate and not an enjoyable time.
2018-01-03 11:58:12 AM  
2 votes:
Can we get a change on the headline? There's nothing that I've seen that says this is domestic and this quote from his wife in the Toronto Star yesterday [link] suggests the victims are not anyone in their immediate family:

"Obviously, he is responsible for his own actions," she wrote, "but it is with compassion and forgiveness that I say I hope help and healing can be found for him. As to the rest of us, myself and the children, we are healthy and holding up as well as we can."

Also note that article says the victims and witnesses are under a publication ban, so you'd think they'd have to leave Coleman out if she was involved.
2018-01-03 11:42:13 AM  
2 votes:
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2018-01-03 11:36:51 AM  
2 votes:
Let's all agree. It was The Russians who were at fault.

Not My Hostage
2018-01-03 11:13:29 AM  
2 votes:
Funny how internet anonymity brings out the judgement in folks.

We talk about his PTSD, what about hers? How much of the DV is mutual combat?
2018-01-03 11:00:40 AM  
2 votes:
"the couple were abducted while on a backpacking trip in Afghanistan"


What, they couldn't get to North Korea?
2018-01-03 10:55:39 AM  
2 votes:
One count of administering a noxious thing

Really though, let he among us who hasn't done that cast the first stone.
2018-01-03 10:45:06 AM  
2 votes:
Well, looks like he's been keeping himself busy.

Can they send him back for a refund?
2018-01-04 12:45:13 PM  
1 vote:

JohnnyFark: LavenderWolf: whidbey: SirEattonHogg: whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.

I'll bite.  How exactly is it is islamophobic?

It's a fairly straightforward article relatively devoid of commentary.  The use of the word "barbaric" refers to their time in captivity, which I presume is accurate and not an enjoyable time.

subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.

His captors were the Taliban. Not Islamic people in general.

Hyper-sensitive much?

Caucasian-American much?
You don't even know how to racist!


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2018-01-04 02:03:59 AM  
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whidbey: SirEattonHogg: whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.

I'll bite.  How exactly is it is islamophobic?

It's a fairly straightforward article relatively devoid of commentary.  The use of the word "barbaric" refers to their time in captivity, which I presume is accurate and not an enjoyable time.

subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.


His captors were the Taliban. Not Islamic people in general.

Hyper-sensitive much?
2018-01-03 04:47:55 PM  
1 vote:

shortymac: I remember a farker in another thread claimed that he knew the both of them before all this via a MMO and claimed that Joshua was an idiotic egotistical edgelord, it's not that far off from abusive chucklefark...

I hope she divorces him and runs off with the kids, he ruined her life.

/Surprised this isn't about why he went to Afganistan in the first place, suspicious af


She went with him, though.
2018-01-03 02:40:14 PM  
1 vote:

sithon: seriously.though: They cannot mention two of the victims, that might mean their kids, and if that's the case, then this guy needs to be put away for a long time. PTSD or not, that is some unredeemable shiat.

No, in Canada victims of sexual assault never have their name released no matter their age.


sithon: seriously.though: They cannot mention two of the victims, that might mean their kids, and if that's the case, then this guy needs to be put away for a long time. PTSD or not, that is some unredeemable shiat.

No, in Canada victims of sexual assault never have their name released no matter their age.


Are you sure about that.  In this case their is a specific publication ban.  I think the names are in the court documents so technically released - the press is just not able to report them.

Publication bans are common in criminal trials in Canada.
2018-01-03 01:59:19 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: BumpInTheNight: whidbey: subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.

I'm kind of serious now:  Are you for real?

What's wrong with my objection here? How am I not being clear?


Perhaps you are overreacting a bit.  This is not about anti-Muslim/Islam bigotry (although that is quite common on Fark typically).

The Taliban is as much a political group as a religious group and they are a f$cked up people living in a f$cked up part of the world.  That outside forces f$cked up that part of the world is another subject.
2018-01-03 01:35:37 PM  
1 vote:

seriously.though: They cannot mention two of the victims, that might mean their kids, and if that's the case, then this guy needs to be put away for a long time. PTSD or not, that is some unredeemable shiat.


No, in Canada victims of sexual assault never have their name released no matter their age.
2018-01-03 01:16:54 PM  
1 vote:

CrackHeadMatt: I am surprised he is still wearing a beard and she is still in scarfs.   Stockholm syndrome much?


I heard there was a big influx of Islamic immigrants into Sweden, but wasn't aware it was worth naming a syndrome.

/I kid, I kid...
2018-01-03 01:15:41 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: SirEattonHogg: whidbey: LavenderWolf: whidbey: Fark off, subby, it's pretty obvious the dude has some major issues from being in captivity.

Fark you and your "Muslims cause people to be violent" farking bullshiat.

OP didn't say that or anything like that. Don't put hateful words in other peoples' mouths.

Unless you think the Taliban is representative of Muslims. Which.. would be spectacularly dumb.

I smell Islamophobia in this article, sorry.

I'll bite.  How exactly is it is islamophobic?

It's a fairly straightforward article relatively devoid of commentary.  The use of the word "barbaric" refers to their time in captivity, which I presume is accurate and not an enjoyable time.

subby's comment seems to imply that the person in question "learned" some bad manners from his captives.

It's totally Islamophobic bullshiat.


If it is islamaphobic to be scared of this particular individual, then colour me Islamaphobic. Guy is obviously off his rocker.
2018-01-03 12:50:30 PM  
1 vote:

NullReferenceException: Looks like he's already setting up grounds for an appeal. Can anyone get a fair trial with a beard like that?


In the Leprechaun court maybe
2018-01-03 12:31:36 PM  
1 vote:
This guy is an idiot. Goes backpacking through Afghanistan with his wife in 2012, after the country had been torn apart by war and terrorism for 9 years already. A country that has spent more time at war or being occupied than it has spent otherwise. Dafuq did he think would happen?
2018-01-03 11:58:33 AM  
1 vote:
Didn't they go over there to join the Taliban in the first place?  Methinks he was farked in the head and a social reject of the Nth degree to begin with.
2018-01-03 11:37:49 AM  
1 vote:
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2018-01-03 11:37:37 AM  
1 vote:
The children were born in captivity

Can they be released back into the wild, or have they become too domesticated?
2018-01-03 11:37:32 AM  
1 vote:

hardinparamedic: robodog: PTSD is a biatch, hope he gets the help he needs and for her sake and the sake of the kids I hope his wife leaves him ASAP. Unfortunately if she doesn't this has murder suicide written all over it.

Yeah, no. fark this noise.

PTSD doesn't make you a violent spouse abuser.

/PTSD.


You'd have to meet the spouse to know that.
2018-01-03 11:36:42 AM  
1 vote:
I'm glad we got him out of Afghanistan so that we could lock him up here instead.

/really, I am.
2018-01-03 11:18:30 AM  
1 vote:

Bedstead Polisher: drayno76: I'm actually rather surprised that the whole family isn't in some kind of therapy, if he were from the states I could see not being able to afford it after getting back, because we're so awesome at not providing people with healthcare, but Canada? Eh?

Psychologists and psychiatrists are not covered by the universal healthcare. There are a few options for the uninsured but there's often a waitlist (several months in some cases) and it may not be top quality.


There are also psychotherapists which also are not covered by healthcare and in some cases are more than adequate for treating (and usually a bit more affordable). That all said anyone who has insurance coverage through their work would be better off paying out of pocket and using the insurance for something else. Most third party coverages only allow about 500 a year which with psychologists usually starting at $220 an hour you get 2 sessions out of them and the first is usually only intake.
2018-01-03 11:18:29 AM  
1 vote:
Hey, let's go back packing, it'll be fun.
2018-01-03 11:14:35 AM  
1 vote:
Where is FOX? They are the best at trying people in the media.
2018-01-03 11:09:12 AM  
1 vote:

NullReferenceException: Looks like he's already setting up grounds for an appeal. Can anyone get a fair trial with a beard like that?


Not in Canada; it's too short.
2018-01-03 11:05:50 AM  
1 vote:
Same thing happened to me when i returned to canada after years abroad. They are a bit weird about it here.
2018-01-03 11:00:01 AM  
1 vote:
He was always a favorite.

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2018-01-03 10:58:02 AM  
1 vote:
Looks like he's already setting up grounds for an appeal. Can anyone get a fair trial with a beard like that?
2018-01-03 10:57:55 AM  
1 vote:

BigNumber12: One count of administering a noxious thing

Really though, let he among us who hasn't done that cast the first stone.


I haven't tried to poison my family, no.
2018-01-03 10:51:37 AM  
1 vote:
Susan Boyle is okay though right? She can still sing?
2018-01-03 10:29:56 AM  
1 vote:
Quite the Milkshake Duck
 
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