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(The Hill)   Trump is going to cut funding to weather researchers studying hurricanes and other dangerous weather phenomenon, so you may not see the next Irma coming until it's too late   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2018-01-03 08:33:11 AM  
I guess 'Act of God' is about to make a big comeback on insurance claim rejections too.
 
2018-01-03 08:43:35 AM  
How can you give out reconstruction contracts if stuff doesn't get wrecked? How can you sell refugees water and food and basics if they don't become homeless? How can you buy up ruined plots if they don't get ruined in the first place? Sheesh, people...think for a minute.
 
2018-01-03 08:43:35 AM  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Ga​l​veston_hurricane

Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States. It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people

Owing to contradictory forecasts, the people of Galveston felt no alarm until the official hurricane warning of September 7. The next morning, a storm surge of 15 ft (4.6 m) washed over the long, flat island-city, which was only 8 ft (2.4 m) above sea level, knocking buildings off their foundations and destroying over 3,600 homes.
 
2018-01-03 08:43:38 AM  
The article makes it sound like funding is being cut for predictive forecast research rather than the identification and tracking of major storms like hurricanes that can cause devastating damage and loss of life.  Thanks for opening my eyes to the truth, submitter!
 
2018-01-03 08:56:32 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Ga​l​veston_hurricane

Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States. It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people

Owing to contradictory forecasts, the people of Galveston felt no alarm until the official hurricane warning of September 7. The next morning, a storm surge of 15 ft (4.6 m) washed over the long, flat island-city, which was only 8 ft (2.4 m) above sea level, knocking buildings off their foundations and destroying over 3,600 homes.


Expect some reruns, is what I'm saying.
 
2018-01-03 08:57:09 AM  
At this rate, he's determined to make Florida a solid blue state by 2020.
 
2018-01-03 08:57:30 AM  
He needs the money to fund his new awards show.

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The President of the United States of America, everyone!
 
2018-01-03 08:58:47 AM  
To be fair, we have chosen to tell the US citizens in Puerto Rico that they are on their own and to lave them totally farked in the aftermath of a devastating hurricane. We might as well stop pretending that the US gives a shiat about helping it's own citizens coping with natural disasters.
 
2018-01-03 09:00:35 AM  

Archidude: To be fair, we have chosen to tell the US citizens in Puerto Rico that they are on their own and to lave them totally farked in the aftermath of a devastating hurricane. We might as well stop pretending that the US gives a shiat about helping it's own citizens coping with natural disasters.


Trump gives a shiat, but only about helping the people in states that voted for him.

Texas or Florida gets hit by a hurricane? Send in FEMA

Puerto Rico gets hit by a hurricane? Crickets
 
2018-01-03 09:00:50 AM  

Kegluneq: Garza and the Supermutants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Gal​veston_hurricane

Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States. It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people

Owing to contradictory forecasts, the people of Galveston felt no alarm until the official hurricane warning of September 7. The next morning, a storm surge of 15 ft (4.6 m) washed over the long, flat island-city, which was only 8 ft (2.4 m) above sea level, knocking buildings off their foundations and destroying over 3,600 homes.

Expect some reruns, is what I'm saying.


A lib probably got stugged, so I'm okay with this.

GO BOOTSTRAPS JESUS!
 
2018-01-03 09:02:54 AM  
That's because climate doesn't change.  Why waste money studying it that could be better spent building the invisible 60 foot tall solar powered wall down south?
 
2018-01-03 09:02:55 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people


A benefit of the black plague in Europe was that it concentrated wealth in the hands of survivors. I guess MAGA will work by letting god reduce the population back to 1950's levels and concentrating the wealth. It is a plan. Not a good plan, or a moral plan but a plan.
 
2018-01-03 09:05:14 AM  
Science is for libs. All a patriot needs is faith.

/Conservative logic
 
2018-01-03 09:05:32 AM  
If they promised to name every storm after him I'll bet they'd see a 500% budget increase.
 
2018-01-03 09:06:09 AM  
If you're properly prepared to handle the remainder of the Trump presidency then something as comparatively minor as a Category 5 hurricane shouldn't be a problem to get through.
 
2018-01-03 09:06:25 AM  
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2018-01-03 09:07:50 AM  
He doesn't want them going and proving a link between human driven climate change and bad storms.
 
2018-01-03 09:07:55 AM  

abhorrent1: He needs the money to fund his new awards show.

[img.fark.net image 463x233]

The President of the United States of America, everyone!


Goddamn, he is unfit trash.  If only someone had warned us over and over and over and over and over.
 
2018-01-03 09:08:46 AM  

Cache: Science is for libs. All a patriot needs is faith.

/Conservative logic


I know far too many people that believe this. They will state, "the weather guy said we'd get 6-10in of rain but we only got 5.9 inches. Cant trust them!
 
2018-01-03 09:09:06 AM  
ah there it is...

from the JPSS wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo​int_Po​lar_Satellite_System

"JPSS was created by the White House in February 2010"
 
2018-01-03 09:09:25 AM  

qorkfiend: Archidude: To be fair, we have chosen to tell the US citizens in Puerto Rico that they are on their own and to lave them totally farked in the aftermath of a devastating hurricane. We might as well stop pretending that the US gives a shiat about helping it's own citizens coping with natural disasters.

Trump gives a shiat, but only about helping the people in states that voted for him.

Texas or Florida gets hit by a hurricane? Send in FEMA

Puerto Rico gets hit by a hurricane? Crickets


At least crickets are a good source of protein. The hot air he usually sends is not very filling.
 
2018-01-03 09:10:49 AM  
My weather forecast is the Bible
 
2018-01-03 09:14:51 AM  

NewportBarGuy: If they promised to name every storm after him I'll bet they'd see a 500% budget increase.


"If Hurricane Hot Garbage tracks a little further west it could impact areas that were already damaged by Hurricane Dotard and Hurriance Egads What a Moron earlier this summer"
 
2018-01-03 09:15:39 AM  
have the sattelites everbeen better than ben franklins almanac predictions that he made 200 years without sarrelites.
 
2018-01-03 09:19:11 AM  
If a hurricane forms and no one reports it, did it really happen?
Chex Mix Libtards
 
2018-01-03 09:19:42 AM  

Lucky LaRue: The article makes it sound like funding is being cut for predictive forecast research rather than the identification and tracking of major storms like hurricanes that can cause devastating damage and loss of life.  Thanks for opening my eyes to the truth, submitter!


Yeah, it's not like we have a hurricane prediction model that is laughably inaccurate compared to the European model or anything:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/​0​9/us-forecast-models-have-been-pretty-​terrible-during-hurricane-irma/

It really hurts evacuations when you have one pretty accurate model showing a direct hit while NOAA is publishing models that show the hurricane going off in a wildly different direction. It undermines public trust in the ability to forecast these storms, which is getting really good under the Euro model.
 
2018-01-03 09:22:13 AM  
Someone should tell Trump that weather researchers all look like this.
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2018-01-03 09:24:54 AM  

snowshovel: have the sattelites everbeen better than ben franklins almanac predictions that he made 200 years without sarrelites.


I am also drunk.
 
2018-01-03 09:26:03 AM  
The free market will decide whether or not we need weather forecasts.
 
2018-01-03 09:26:04 AM  

snowshovel: have the sattelites everbeen better than ben franklins almanac predictions that he made 200 years without sarrelites.


Just like health care, Europe seems to be a lot better than us at forecasting the weather:

http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2016/06​/​us-numerical-weather-prediction-is.htm​l?m=1

It's almost as if the government can do a really good job if you believe in science enough to fund it properly instead of undermining it at every turn.
 
2018-01-03 09:26:20 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Lucky LaRue: The article makes it sound like funding is being cut for predictive forecast research rather than the identification and tracking of major storms like hurricanes that can cause devastating damage and loss of life.  Thanks for opening my eyes to the truth, submitter!

Yeah, it's not like we have a hurricane prediction model that is laughably inaccurate compared to the European model or anything:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/0​9/us-forecast-models-have-been-pretty-​terrible-during-hurricane-irma/

It really hurts evacuations when you have one pretty accurate model showing a direct hit while NOAA is publishing models that show the hurricane going off in a wildly different direction. It undermines public trust in the ability to forecast these storms, which is getting really good under the Euro model.


Oh.. so that's why subby is using alarmist language to make the article sound like it's about how Trump is going to kill people?  I knew there had to be some reason for obfuscating the message.
 
2018-01-03 09:27:22 AM  
That's fine. I'm sure the free market will step in and take care of that. Businesses need to know what the weather will be, so the private sector will undoubtedly be happy to all chip in and start their own weather research organization. Even if it means a few dollars less to the Shareholders (praise be upon them) in dividend payments this quarter, in the long run it will be a good thing, so I'm sure they'll get right on that.
 
2018-01-03 09:29:57 AM  

Lucky LaRue: The article makes it sound like funding is being cut for predictive forecast research rather than the identification and tracking of major storms like hurricanes that can cause devastating damage and loss of life.  Thanks for opening my eyes to the truth, submitter!


I am confident that I speak for the whole TX coast when I say "fark you".

/We need more predictive research
//imagine not knowing that Harvey was coming
///another shout out to the SpaceCityWeathet guys
 
2018-01-03 09:29:57 AM  
FTFA : "The recurrence of extreme weather is nearly assured. Funding for the JPSS program is not. The JPSS program will continue until 2038 - if Congress continues to fund it. "

... so Congress... not Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_o​f​_the_purse

/ not saying it won't be the same, but Congress controls the purse strings.
 
2018-01-03 09:30:09 AM  

abhorrent1: He needs the money to fund his new awards show.

[img.fark.net image 463x233]

The President of the United States of America, everyone!



I think Drew needs to come up with a "sad" voting button
 
2018-01-03 09:30:26 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Ga​l​veston_hurricane

Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States. It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people

Owing to contradictory forecasts, the people of Galveston felt no alarm until the official hurricane warning of September 7. The next morning, a storm surge of 15 ft (4.6 m) washed over the long, flat island-city, which was only 8 ft (2.4 m) above sea level, knocking buildings off their foundations and destroying over 3,600 homes.


If anyone is interested Erik Larsen wrote a book about this huricane called Isaac's Storm, which is a terrific read.
 
2018-01-03 09:32:40 AM  

stoli n coke: At this rate, he's determined to make Florida a solid blue state by 2020.


Northern Floridians will still vote for him, but there will be less of them. So there's that.
 
2018-01-03 09:33:25 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Just like health care, Europe seems to be a lot better than us at forecasting the weather:


Bullshiat. They don't even know how to temperature. If the weather man here says the high is 30 I'm in my Carhartt overalls; you can't trust the european weather man, if he says 30 you assume he is totally wrong and it will actually be 90.
 
2018-01-03 09:33:40 AM  

snowshovel: have

Have the sattelitessatellites everbeen ever been better than ben franklinsBen Franklin's almanac^'s predictions that he made 200 years, (This is not how almanacs work)without sarrelitessatellites .?

Seriously, English and coherent thoughts don't come naturally to you do they? Seriously only 5 words were used correctly, and spelled correctly at the same time. Your grammar is atrocious, your sentence structure, and general knowledge of what things are needs a lot of work.
 
2018-01-03 09:34:19 AM  
For someone who pretends to be concerned with government spending, he sure has no problem dramatically increasing the costs that the government will incur due to weather.  This is why he has so many failed businesses.  He's just very, very bad at math.
 
2018-01-03 09:36:33 AM  

dennysgod: abhorrent1: He needs the money to fund his new awards show.

[img.fark.net image 463x233]

The President of the United States of America, everyone!


I think Drew needs to come up with a "sad" voting button


I'm doing my part.  Asked once today, yesterday, and the day before that.

#FSB
(Fark Sad Button)
 
2018-01-03 09:40:14 AM  

Chewb1zz: snowshovel: haveHave the sattelitessatellites everbeen ever been better than ben franklinsBen Franklin's almanac^'s predictions that he made 200 years, (This is not how almanacs work)without sarrelitessatellites .?

Seriously, English and coherent thoughts don't come naturally to you do they? Seriously, only 5 words were used correctly, and spelled correctly at the same time. Your grammar is atrocious, your sentence structure, and general knowledge of what things are needs a lot of work.


You suck with commas....
 
2018-01-03 09:41:49 AM  
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2018-01-03 09:42:59 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Ga​l​veston_hurricane

Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States. It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people

Owing to contradictory forecasts, the people of Galveston felt no alarm until the official hurricane warning of September 7. The next morning, a storm surge of 15 ft (4.6 m) washed over the long, flat island-city, which was only 8 ft (2.4 m) above sea level, knocking buildings off their foundations and destroying over 3,600 homes.


And just down the road a bit, Indianola, Texas  was wiped off the map in 1886 by a huge Cat 4 hurricane, they had no idea it was coming. The entire city was destroyed, leading to Galveston becoming the biggest port of entry for Texas. Until it got clobbered in 1900..
Then Houston became the port of entry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1886_In​d​ianola_hurricane


This is what Indianola looks like now:
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2018-01-03 09:44:22 AM  

abhorrent1: He needs the money to fund his new awards show.

[img.fark.net image 463x233]

The President of the United States of America, everyone!


That's not real, is it? I can't tell anymore.
 
2018-01-03 09:45:22 AM  

coffeeburns: abhorrent1: He needs the money to fund his new awards show.

[img.fark.net image 463x233]

The President of the United States of America, everyone!

That's not real, is it? I can't tell anymore.


Oh, it's real.
 
2018-01-03 09:48:35 AM  

coffeeburns: abhorrent1: He needs the money to fund his new awards show.

[img.fark.net image 463x233]

The President of the United States of America, everyone!

That's not real, is it? I can't tell anymore.


#FSB
 
2018-01-03 09:54:29 AM  
Submitter:

FYI the European model was used for Irma, and probably will be for all future hurricanes, because they know their shiat.
 
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2018-01-03 09:59:35 AM  
I don't understand why the government needs to spend all this money on satellites and other weather stuff when I can get go to accuweather
 
2018-01-03 09:59:54 AM  

born_yesterday: coffeeburns: abhorrent1: He needs the money to fund his new awards show.

[img.fark.net image 463x233]

The President of the United States of America, everyone!

That's not real, is it? I can't tell anymore.

Oh, it's real.


If it seems so impossibly ridiculous that you think it can't possibly be real, that means it's real.

/new normal
//not normal
 
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