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(TwinCities.com)   Running a stop sign with 2x the legal limit of alcohol in your blood is no way to celebrate New Years, Your Honor   ( twincities.com) divider line
    More: Dumbass, Appeal, Atwal, G. Tony Atwal, Ramsey County, Criminal law, Atwal's breath, Alcohol law, County District Court  
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2018-01-02 06:21:33 PM  
Wouldn't 2x a legal limit be, like, doubly legal? Dumbass libs. #MAGA
 
2018-01-02 06:55:25 PM  
Ladies and gentlemen, the next pick to replace a dead or retiring Supreme Court Justice.
 
2018-01-02 08:22:35 PM  
Two times the legal limit is less than the old average BAC they used to start pulling people over at.

0.08 is a ridiculous goldbricking limit.  Either  nut up and make impairmentthe crime and only pull over people who are swerving or wise up and make it eight hours bottle to throttle like aircraft and stick one of those DUI locks on all human operated vehicles.

The idea that there's a uniform legal limit to how much alchol people can have in their systems is stupid enough, but setting that legal limit at such a low point relative to drinkers' BACs? Could only be for revenue purposes.
 
2018-01-02 09:53:55 PM  

doglover: Two times the legal limit is less than the old average BAC they used to start pulling people over at.

0.08 is a ridiculous goldbricking limit.  Either  nut up and make impairmentthe crime and only pull over people who are swerving or wise up and make it eight hours bottle to throttle like aircraft and stick one of those DUI locks on all human operated vehicles.

The idea that there's a uniform legal limit to how much alchol people can have in their systems is stupid enough, but setting that legal limit at such a low point relative to drinkers' BACs? Could only be for revenue purposes.


In many countries the limit is as low as 0.01, and first time offenses can net some heavy jail time and financial penalties and years of license revocation. The US is actually rather lenient by comparison
 
2018-01-02 09:56:53 PM  
rcain:

Because if you actually address drunk driving with sensible legislation, it's no longer a profitable sin tax.
 
2018-01-02 10:13:45 PM  

doglover: Two times the legal limit is less than the old average BAC they used to start pulling people over at.

0.08 is a ridiculous goldbricking limit.  Either  nut up and make impairmentthe crime and only pull over people who are swerving or wise up and make it eight hours bottle to throttle like aircraft and stick one of those DUI locks on all human operated vehicles.

The idea that there's a uniform legal limit to how much alchol people can have in their systems is stupid enough, but setting that legal limit at such a low point relative to drinkers' BACs? Could only be for revenue purposes.


It's not about "swerving", it's about reaction times.  Can you state with 100% certainty that your reaction times in a car accident are exactly the same with a level of 0.08 compared to a level of 0.00?  Even a small reduction in reaction time can make a huge difference.
 
2018-01-02 10:14:30 PM  
Case dismissed.
 
2018-01-02 10:19:17 PM  
Hollywood has me convinced that only beautiful people should work in law.

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Point.

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Counter-point.

I rest my case.
 
2018-01-02 10:27:33 PM  

stuartp9: doglover: Two times the legal limit is less than the old average BAC they used to start pulling people over at.

0.08 is a ridiculous goldbricking limit.  Either  nut up and make impairmentthe crime and only pull over people who are swerving or wise up and make it eight hours bottle to throttle like aircraft and stick one of those DUI locks on all human operated vehicles.

The idea that there's a uniform legal limit to how much alchol people can have in their systems is stupid enough, but setting that legal limit at such a low point relative to drinkers' BACs? Could only be for revenue purposes.

It's not about "swerving", it's about reaction times.  Can you state with 100% certainty that your reaction times in a car accident are exactly the same with a level of 0.08 compared to a level of 0.00?  Even a small reduction in reaction time can make a huge difference.


Interesting proposal, especially since reaction time is something you can test.  Send out the officers with a gameboy and charge everyone who doesn't pass with impairment.  This will broaden the net to capture drinkers, stoners, prescription med abusers, the tired, and even old people.

Win, win, win, win.

/I actually believe this would be a good test, and something that should probably go along with the vision test when you get your license to start screening out the elderly
 
2018-01-02 10:30:18 PM  
" reiger!!!!!!"
 
2018-01-02 10:37:42 PM  
Atwal qualified to serve his 20-day sentence on electronic home monitoring vs. at the Ramsey County workhouse... Cotter said Atwal "took responsibility and he's accepted the sentence, which is consistent with what any other citizen would receive..." Atwal pleaded guilty to a DWI charge in 2007 in Washington County.

Yeah, repeat offenders get 18 days of house arrest along with two days in jail, happens all the time.
 
2018-01-02 10:44:35 PM  

BLayingBeads: Atwal qualified to serve his 20-day sentence on electronic home monitoring vs. at the Ramsey County workhouse... Cotter said Atwal "took responsibility and he's accepted the sentence, which is consistent with what any other citizen would receive..." Atwal pleaded guilty to a DWI charge in 2007 in Washington County.

Yeah, repeat offenders get 18 days of house arrest along with two days in jail, happens all the time.


You're sarcastic, but in most of the US, that really is how it works, plus or minus a few days depending on the state. California is unusually harsh, and even here it's 0-10 days of house arrest or community service for a first, 45 for a second, and 120 for a third. (All days in jail are worth two on the outside, so half that for those who elect to do their time.) The real penalty is the $2000 fine per conviction, plus all the DMV, insurance, and mandatory weekly rehab meetings for a year.
 
2018-01-02 11:00:22 PM  
Does the judge have a fark handle?
 
2018-01-02 11:16:55 PM  

foxyshadis: BLayingBeads: Atwal qualified to serve his 20-day sentence on electronic home monitoring vs. at the Ramsey County workhouse... Cotter said Atwal "took responsibility and he's accepted the sentence, which is consistent with what any other citizen would receive..." Atwal pleaded guilty to a DWI charge in 2007 in Washington County.

Yeah, repeat offenders get 18 days of house arrest along with two days in jail, happens all the time.

You're sarcastic, but in most of the US, that really is how it works, plus or minus a few days depending on the state. California is unusually harsh, and even here it's 0-10 days of house arrest or community service for a first, 45 for a second, and 120 for a third. (All days in jail are worth two on the outside, so half that for those who elect to do their time.) The real penalty is the $2000 fine per conviction, plus all the DMV, insurance, and mandatory weekly rehab meetings for a year.


CHA-ching!!

But tell me again how it's about milliseconds' worth of safety.

Especially in places where you can get a "DUI"  simply by being near the car when it's parked
 
2018-01-02 11:35:14 PM  

The Lurker at Your Threshold: Counter-point.


Huh.  Who'd have guessed Frankie Carbone would have become a judge after that minor incident with the refrigerated truck?
 
2018-01-03 12:53:33 AM  
Book him ..
 
2018-01-03 05:37:23 AM  

Prey4reign: Ladies and gentlemen, the next pick to replace a dead or retiring Supreme Court Justice.


From TFA:
Gov. Mark Dayton appointed Atwal to be a Ramsey County judge in May 2016 and his term is due to expire next January.


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2018-01-03 06:13:37 AM  

Prey4reign: Ladies and gentlemen, the next pick to replace a dead or retiring Supreme Court Justice.


Nah doesn't seem he would fit in with the Trump administration. This guy took personal responsibility for his mistake.
 
2018-01-03 10:23:12 AM  
The Lurker at Your Threshold:
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Counter-point.

I rest my case.


Seen a LOT ooglier than that in the legal field, on a pretty regular basis.

That's more like your average public defender dude stuck at the courthouse dealing with indigent plea deals.   They say at least that being attractive helps as a lawyer, but I've seen some that are weird/ugly looking and work it on purpose.  Seems effective for at least some of them.  Used to be a civil attorney where a friend of mine worked that pretty much looked like Orville Redenbacher after a couple years of chemo - he actually dressed to accentuate it.  Apparently he made himself look odd enough that people would pay attention, if nothing else out of a sort of horrified fascination maybe?  In any case, he had quite a good win record and was a full partner so hey - hard to argue with.
 
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