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(The Root)   Not news: Black person stopped by cops without cause. Fark: It was singer Erykah Badu and they're really big fans, so they pulled her over after running her tags   ( thegrapevine.theroot.com) divider line
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2018-01-02 12:20:54 PM  
I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.
 
2018-01-02 12:31:00 PM  

edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.


On the one hand, I support this policy 100% because everyone deserves privacy.

On the other:  if they're fans, I can't fault them for their enthusiasm, just their judgement.
 
2018-01-02 12:31:11 PM  
"Why, no, those with power in the United States have never and would never abuse it!"

Ya know, if someone pulled me over "just to say hi" (and I were famous), I'm pretty sure my answer would be something like, "My lawyer hates it when that happens! What's your name?"
 
2018-01-02 12:31:29 PM  
Should they have done this? No.

Should someone lose their job? Probably not.

Should they write a very polite letter of apology and perhaps receive a reprimand? Sure.


People do stupid things when they are around famous people.
 
2018-01-02 12:32:11 PM  

mama2tnt: "Why, no, those with power in the United States have never and would never abuse it!"

Ya know, if someone pulled me over "just to say hi" (and I were famous), I'm pretty sure my answer would be something like, "My lawyer hates it when that happens! What's your name?"


Bet you're fun at parties.
 
2018-01-02 12:34:53 PM  

gar1013: mama2tnt: "Why, no, those with power in the United States have never and would never abuse it!"

Ya know, if someone pulled me over "just to say hi" (and I were famous), I'm pretty sure my answer would be something like, "My lawyer hates it when that happens! What's your name?"

Bet you're fun at parties.


Why would I go to parties?
 
2018-01-02 12:45:03 PM  
I'm calling bullshiat. There are no really big Erykah Badu fans.
 
2018-01-02 12:51:18 PM  
Zero tolerance.  Fire the cops involved.
 
2018-01-02 12:52:04 PM  

JerseyTim: I'm calling bullshiat. There are no really big Erykah Badu fans.


I might pull her over to say hi to Andre 3000's baby mama.
 
2018-01-02 12:52:52 PM  
Cops pull over young attractive women all the time....because.   In other news, large numbers of cops are creeps.
 
2018-01-02 12:53:27 PM  
If you're a public figure you should register your car to an LLC.
 
2018-01-02 12:55:07 PM  

gar1013: People do stupid things when they are around famous people.


Sure, but the people who have the power to extrajudicially kill us should probably be held to a slightly higher standard than the general population.
 
2018-01-02 12:55:33 PM  
The mothership can't save them, so their asses are gonna get it
 
2018-01-02 12:56:02 PM  

gar1013: Should they have done this? No.

Should someone lose their job? Probably not.

Should they write a very polite letter of apology and perhaps receive a reprimand? Sure.


People do stupid things when they are around famous people.


When I lived in LA, it was good form to be cool about such things.
 
2018-01-02 12:56:34 PM  
 
2018-01-02 12:56:52 PM  

edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.


Use of the LEADS system for anything except for legitimate law enforcement purposes is a firing offense and is possibly a jail term. I hope the autograph session was worth it.
 
2018-01-02 12:57:05 PM  

edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.


You can randomly run tags to look for warrants and stolen cars.  As far as discipline, they will be lucky if only suspended and not fired.  Shootings are complicated messes that are often justified.  Randomly pulling over someone, because you like them, is always a clear violation of their rights.  There is no way to justify it.
 
2018-01-02 12:57:13 PM  
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2018-01-02 12:57:26 PM  

gar1013: Should they have done this? No.

Should someone lose their job? Probably not.

Should they write a very polite letter of apology and perhaps receive a reprimand? Sure.


People do stupid things when they are around famous people.


Sorry, but cops have to uphold a higher standard than that. If you're pulling people over just to get autographs, at the very least you need to be taken off the streets and stuck behind a desk.
 
2018-01-02 12:58:19 PM  
Cops:  "We're big fans but we're also cops.  You're gonna have to take a light beat down.  We have our cred too, you know."

and or

Cop Supervisor:  While you guys were making nice-nice with  Erica Bandoo, street gangs stole several streets!
 
2018-01-02 12:58:37 PM  
Clearly their judgment is not the best. And they shouldn't have pulled her over like that.
 
2018-01-02 12:58:46 PM  
It's basic a lack of respect for the citizens they are supposed to be looking after, not looking up for their own amusement.  Pretty sure that's at least an ethics / policy violation in most place, if not illegal too.  I know LA hospitals routinely fire people for browsing celebrity medical records.  At least the cops were in a good mood and forgot to shoot her.
 
2018-01-02 12:58:50 PM  

rummonkey: edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.

Use of the LEADS system for anything except for legitimate law enforcement purposes is a firing offense and is possibly a jail term. I hope the autograph session was worth it.



Laws may have changed but less than 10 years ago I had a subscription to Texas DPS database for like $35 per year.  Reverse plate lookups and DL info.
 
2018-01-02 12:59:35 PM  
 
2018-01-02 01:01:15 PM  

JerseyTim: I'm calling bullshiat. There are no really big Erykah Badu fans.


*rimshot*
 
2018-01-02 01:02:40 PM  
i was driving alongside Chris Brown on the city streets, and witnessed him get pulled over for no damn reason.  He was in that red lamborghini.   I actually felt sorry for him (in that isolated moment).
 
2018-01-02 01:02:54 PM  
If it hasn't been said before, I don't care how big of a fan you are, that is an invasion of privacy.  You'll be lucky to not get sued for that.
 
2018-01-02 01:03:58 PM  
I live in Dallas. This can totally be taken with a grain of salt.
 
2018-01-02 01:04:39 PM  
What part of badges grant you extra rights don't you citizens understand?
 
2018-01-02 01:04:55 PM  

JerseyTim: I'm calling bullshiat. There are no really big Erykah Badu fans.


I'm a fan of Badu, but I'm not really big, not big at all.

A commenter in TFA sites a Supreme Court case about reasonable suspicion being the standard for pulling someone over.
I'm not so sure suspecting Badu is driving meets that requirement.
 
2018-01-02 01:06:32 PM  

edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.


You can run any license plate you see while on patrol. in fact, it's routine, and one of the ways car theft is combated.

However, pulling someone over "Cause you wanted to meet them" is probably going to get you yelled at.
 
2018-01-02 01:06:52 PM  

uber humper: rummonkey: edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.

Use of the LEADS system for anything except for legitimate law enforcement purposes is a firing offense and is possibly a jail term. I hope the autograph session was worth it.


Laws may have changed but less than 10 years ago I had a subscription to Texas DPS database for like $35 per year.  Reverse plate lookups and DL info.


That info is public data, its a little creepy that it is for sale as a subscription.

The LEADS database has a lot more than that in it. I was able to look at everything a person has ever officially done (or had done to them) using that system.

 I know that recently there have been efforts to make it so that businesses can subscribe to a portion of the list that allows them to report mandatory data to LEOs.
 
2018-01-02 01:07:24 PM  
HAHA they harassed a person for no reason, but they did it because they're fans, so it's cool! No. It's not cool or funny or anything else. It's exactly why people don't like cops. They forced a motorist to stop for nothing but their amusement.
 
2018-01-02 01:07:27 PM  
Running a cars tags is what cops do, looking for a reason to pull a person over for whatever reason. Stopping a person because you are a fan is really poor judgement.
 
2018-01-02 01:07:53 PM  
I can only imagine how frustrating that would be, to be constantly pestered for autographs.  Especially from the police.  I mean, I was asked for an autograph from a cop not too long ago.  Though, it looks like other people already wrote on his pad of paper.  One guy had this weird name of "65/45."  Weird.
 
2018-01-02 01:09:50 PM  

EdgeRunner: gar1013: Should they have done this? No.

Should someone lose their job? Probably not.

Should they write a very polite letter of apology and perhaps receive a reprimand? Sure.


People do stupid things when they are around famous people.

Sorry, but cops have to uphold a higher standard than that. If you're pulling people over just to get autographs, at the very least you need to be taken off the streets and stuck behind a desk.


Their jobs should be automatically gone. Its disconcerting enough to the general population that law enforcement has the powers and tools we do, to show us using them for something as stupid at a forced meet and greet for a famous person is completely unacceptable. It does not matter what their intentions were, their actions are the type that erode what trust is left.
 
2018-01-02 01:12:18 PM  

netizencain: Zero tolerance.  Fire the cops involved.


That's a pretty strong sentiment.  If he'd shot her, he'd only get two weeks of paid administrative leave.
 
2018-01-02 01:12:46 PM  

edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.


Depends on the state and department policy.  Now pulling someone over for no reason is a clear violation of the 4th Amendment.  A traffic stop is a seizure.
 
2018-01-02 01:13:36 PM  

rummonkey: edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.

Use of the LEADS system for anything except for legitimate law enforcement purposes is a firing offense and is possibly a jail term. I hope the autograph session was worth it.


They used SCMODS instead.
But they done pissed off Queen Moussette. Hopefully she turned them to stone.
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2018-01-02 01:13:50 PM  

edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.


Always would when I was a dispatcher.  One of the first things they tell you, when going to school to
run the computer system, is ALL DATA IS PRIVATE.  NO personal use.  Not only could you get in
trouble, they could yank your agency of the ability to run stuff.
Local stuff, state stuff, and nationwide stuff.  NCIC (not to be confused with NCIS) IS VERY PICKY!
They run audits (as does the state),and the paper trail better have all the T's crossed and I's dotted!
 
2018-01-02 01:15:59 PM  

JerseyTim: I'm calling bullshiat. There are no really big Erykah Badu fans.


I love Erykah Badu, I think she's very talented.
 
2018-01-02 01:22:08 PM  
My wife has a black name.  Back when we used to drive a Cadillac we would get pulled over all the time.  Sometimes the police would laugh once they got a look at her.  Now we own a couple of Subarus.  Haven't been pulled over once since we switched brands. Must be the cars.
 
2018-01-02 01:25:18 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: A traffic stop is a seizure.


Yes however, in the interest of accuracy, it's not by definition an "unreasonable" one.  SCOTUS has upheld pulling vehicles over without prior cause as a legitimate component of DUI checkpoints, Immigration checkpoints, Child Restraint inspection programs and various other occasions due to the Compelling Interest test.

BUT in this case there was certainly no reasonable LE reason to stop her. Had they smelled weed or found a gun, or even seen a dead hooker in the back seat, any evidence would have been inadmissible because they lacked any good faith reason for the stop.
 
2018-01-02 01:25:19 PM  
What's the problem here? Government demands the right to drool over your fame.
 
2018-01-02 01:27:48 PM  
I had a cop pull me over once to say hi. Turned out to be an old friend of mine from high school

Of course, he ran my plates because my registration was expired, so I guess ANY cop would pulled me over. But this one said hi and let me go with a warning
 
2018-01-02 01:28:08 PM  

anustart: rummonkey: edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.

Use of the LEADS system for anything except for legitimate law enforcement purposes is a firing offense and is possibly a jail term. I hope the autograph session was worth it.

They used SCMODS instead.
But they done pissed off Queen Moussette. Hopefully she turned them to stone.
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SCMODS is the same as LEADS, just on a state wide level. the same level of trust and potential punishment should be expected.
 
2018-01-02 01:29:08 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Now we own a couple of Subarus.  Haven't been pulled over once since we switched brands. Must be the cars.


Do you resemble a Golden Retriever?  If you do, they might just be assuming your Subaru-driving wife is a lesbian simply going about her day.
 
2018-01-02 01:30:27 PM  
A similar thing once happened to Sandra Bland.
 
2018-01-02 01:30:40 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.

Depends on the state and department policy.  Now pulling someone over for no reason is a clear violation of the 4th Amendment.  A traffic stop is a seizure.


A traffic stop is a detention, If I keep your car or confiscate something from it then it is a seizure. I see where you were trying to go with it, just wanted to head off any misconceptions. There is no defending these actions.
 
2018-01-02 01:31:02 PM  

rummonkey: anustart: rummonkey: edmo: I don't know about running the tags but I do know randomly looking up personal info in the LE databases will earn a suspension.

Use of the LEADS system for anything except for legitimate law enforcement purposes is a firing offense and is possibly a jail term. I hope the autograph session was worth it.

They used SCMODS instead.
But they done pissed off Queen Moussette. Hopefully she turned them to stone.
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SCMODS is the same as LEADS, just on a state wide level. the same level of trust and potential punishment should be expected.


I can't even.

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