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(Forbes)   An analysis of over 40,000 weapons confiscated from ISIS fighters indicates that the weapons are coming from inside the Kremlin   ( forbes.com) divider line
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2018-01-01 09:42:16 PM  
43% Chinese, 9% Russia. C'mon stubby..
 
2018-01-01 10:15:18 PM  
ugh forbes
 
2018-01-01 10:25:24 PM  
I've  been told pretty authoritatively that ISIS was created and armed by Obama.
And people 'interpreting' the insane chirping of 'Q' would certainly know what's true.
 
2018-01-01 11:44:03 PM  
Well, at least British made weapons are only causing havoc in Yemen.

Was interested to see the entry for East Germany in there.  Given that they are allowing countries that no longer exist, and the apparent age of some of the weaponry, I wonder how much or the Russian weapons should actually be listed as USSR.
 
2018-01-02 02:11:53 AM  

Sliding Carp: I've  been told pretty authoritatively that ISIS was created and armed by Obama.
And people 'interpreting' the insane chirping of 'Q' would certainly know what's true.


Psh, no one wants an M4 in the desert.
 
2018-01-02 02:12:27 AM  

Reasonable Human: Well, at least British made weapons are only causing havoc in Yemen.

Was interested to see the entry for East Germany in there.  Given that they are allowing countries that no longer exist, and the apparent age of some of the weaponry, I wonder how much or the Russian weapons should actually be listed as USSR.

Thats a big point the article forgot to mention.  AK's don't die, they just get sold to the next conflict.  Been happening for 60 years so of course the bulk of them are cold war era manufactures.

 
2018-01-02 02:15:01 AM  

IgG4: ugh forbes


Exactly. Forbes which now runs on contributors who are looking to drive traffic and build backlinks.

Your blog sucks
 
2018-01-02 02:16:30 AM  
Firewater for the natives?
 
2018-01-02 02:18:34 AM  

Hassan Ben Sobr: 43% Chinese, 9% Russia. C'mon stubby..


Isn't Russia like a quarter of global arms sales? Nine percent seems disproportionately low.
 
2018-01-02 02:19:39 AM  
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2018-01-02 02:24:04 AM  
If by "Kremlin" you mean "China" then, yes, most of the weapons come from the Kremlin.
 
2018-01-02 02:25:18 AM  

Sliding Carp: I've  been told pretty authoritatively that ISIS was created and armed by Obama.
And people 'interpreting' the insane chirping of 'Q' would certainly know what's true.


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2018-01-02 02:25:38 AM  
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2018-01-02 02:27:17 AM  

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2018-01-02 02:29:08 AM  

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/meh, just the first GIS that came up
 
2018-01-02 02:31:22 AM  
Good thing them ISIS sombiatches ain't got there hands on a Sharps Carbine.
 
2018-01-02 02:32:09 AM  
These are manufacturing nations, not distributing nations.

But this implies one of two things: SOMEONE (take a guess) is getting a shiat-ton of weapons from China, or China itself is involved in global warfare.
 
2018-01-02 02:39:22 AM  

puffy999: But this implies one of two things: SOMEONE (take a guess) is getting a shiat-ton of weapons from China, or China itself is involved in global warfare.


Yeah, I think that's the interesting part subby glossed over. The PRC, with a large Uyghur population in Xinjiang, has little love for Muslim extremists so it seems unlikely they'd want anything to do with ISIL, but someone was moving in a lot of weapons. For a country where trafficking in firearms is a capital crime, they sure do like the revenue they get from exporting them.
 
2018-01-02 02:41:08 AM  
I can't believe no one's said shiat about the 1% from "Extraterrestrial Sources". That's concerning.
 
2018-01-02 02:42:09 AM  
Don'tcha just hate it when your heroes get fat and old?

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2018-01-02 02:45:48 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: puffy999: But this implies one of two things: SOMEONE (take a guess) is getting a shiat-ton of weapons from China, or China itself is involved in global warfare.

Yeah, I think that's the interesting part subby glossed over. The PRC, with a large Uyghur population in Xinjiang, has little love for Muslim extremists so it seems unlikely they'd want anything to do with ISIL, but someone was moving in a lot of weapons. For a country where trafficking in firearms is a capital crime, they sure do like the revenue they get from exporting them.


I mean... the PRC really does not seem to like Uyghur peoples all that much... but to your possible point, driving Muslim extremism elsewhere may bring it home to China.
 
2018-01-02 02:48:32 AM  

puffy999: driving Muslim extremism elsewhere may bring it home to China.


Yeah, exactly. It seems hard to imagine it was part of some government policy to support ISIL and more like, some businessmen are getting rich by selling off weapons without caring much where they go.
 
2018-01-02 02:48:34 AM  
Totally not from Iran.
 
2018-01-02 02:51:10 AM  
Guys, guys. As interesting as this is, the world declared victory over ISIS three weeks ago. Thus solving the problem once and for all.
 
2018-01-02 02:53:17 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Don'tcha just hate it when your heroes get fat and old?

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Guy can still crank on a guitar but he was always too full of himself to be anyone's hero.
 
2018-01-02 02:53:21 AM  

Old Smokie: Totally not from Iran.


While I DNRTFA, because f*ck Forbes, I would have guessed our beloved allies in the house of Saud would be in the mix somewhere.

/ not that they would ever support extremists or anything
 
2018-01-02 02:54:22 AM  

BafflerMeal: Guys, guys. As interesting as this is, the world declared victory over ISIS three weeks ago. Thus solving the problem once and for all.


So the Mission was Accomplished?
 
2018-01-02 02:54:22 AM  

Old Smokie: Totally not from Iran.


ISIS seems to be Sunnis and mercenaries led by pissed off ex-Baathists.  Not exactly favorable towards Iran.
 
2018-01-02 02:58:37 AM  

wax_on: fragMasterFlash: Don'tcha just hate it when your heroes get fat and old?

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/D4OxW_0q​qv8]

Guy can still crank on a guitar but he was always too full of himself to be anyone's hero.


Used to be that old line "The only two manmade things you can see from space are the Great Wall of China and Yngwie's wall of Marshalls". Doubt he can even see his feet these days.

/ can still rip it though
// no idea why this is in this thread
 
2018-01-02 03:01:17 AM  

Reasonable Human: Well, at least British made weapons are only causing havoc in Yemen.

Was interested to see the entry for East Germany in there.  Given that they are allowing countries that no longer exist, and the apparent age of some of the weaponry, I wonder how much or the Russian weapons should actually be listed as USSR.


Came in here to say this as soon as I saw that entry. And the serious use of "Warsaw Pact" in the introduction; just how old and out of touch are the staff writers at Forbes?
 
2018-01-02 03:02:46 AM  

gunsmack: Old Smokie: Totally not from Iran.

While I DNRTFA, because f*ck Forbes, I would have guessed our beloved allies in the house of Saud would be in the mix somewhere.

/ not that they would ever support extremists or anything


The Saudis have always been brokers, not manufacturers. They make oil, and everything else they just trade and facilitate. Less exposure and more profit that way.
 
2018-01-02 03:07:30 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: puffy999: driving Muslim extremism elsewhere may bring it home to China.

Yeah, exactly. It seems hard to imagine it was part of some government policy to support ISIL and more like, some businessmen are getting rich by selling off weapons without caring much where they go.


That assumes the information is accessed.

But there's also a sad reality, too. A place like China, with a relative limitation on information access, could have "events" take place which do not make the news. Even if they do here, they may not make the news in China.

Sadly, watching Chinese leaders, our leaders, and Russian leaders... I honest-to-God don't believe these people give a damn unless they get theirs, right now. I honestly do not believe they care if the world destroys itself in 50 years, because #winning.
 
2018-01-02 03:10:24 AM  
For the record, I live in an American community with thousands of people.... the local newspaper and TV station used to cover virtually every local news happening, at least if someone's safety or property were involved. Now? Not at all. Last year, a car went off of a highway and crashed into a local business, within a block of my house. ... not even a single news report.

We ARE becoming China/Russia.
 
2018-01-02 03:17:57 AM  
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2018-01-02 03:20:11 AM  

foxyshadis: gunsmack: Old Smokie: Totally not from Iran.

While I DNRTFA, because f*ck Forbes, I would have guessed our beloved allies in the house of Saud would be in the mix somewhere.

/ not that they would ever support extremists or anything

The Saudis have always been brokers, not manufacturers. They make oil, and everything else they just trade and facilitate. Less exposure and more profit that way.


Exactly. While they may not have been of Saudi origin, I'd be really surprised if they don't have a few receipts lying around that could tell us where a substantial number of these weapons came from.

/ be even more surprised if there weren't any Israeli weapons found
// ideology is one thing, but look what you save on shipping
 
2018-01-02 03:20:13 AM  

puffy999: For the record, I live in an American community with thousands of people.... the local newspaper and TV station used to cover virtually every local news happening, at least if someone's safety or property were involved. Now? Not at all. Last year, a car went off of a highway and crashed into a local business, within a block of my house. ... not even a single news report.

We ARE becoming China/Russia.


Wait what?
 
2018-01-02 03:45:26 AM  
I'm assuming many of the Chinese ones are captures or diversions from Syrian defensive forces.
 
2018-01-02 04:23:03 AM  

LewDux: puffy999: For the record, I live in an American community with thousands of people.... the local newspaper and TV station used to cover virtually every local news happening, at least if someone's safety or property were involved. Now? Not at all. Last year, a car went off of a highway and crashed into a local business, within a block of my house. ... not even a single news report.

We ARE becoming China/Russia.

Wait what?


When I said "thousands of people" I meant "tens of thousands of people."

And when I said "news report," I meant, this didn't even make a back-page article or "police incident report" (whatever it's termed) in the local newspaper, nor was it on the local news television station. Literally, nothing.

This event closed the only major US highway in the city for nearly 5 hours. And it wasn't even a blip on the news.
 
2018-01-02 04:29:00 AM  
Before (whoever owns the newspaper... I think the company that owns the St. Louis Post Dispatch?) and Sinclair (local TV broadcast owners) happened into the area, we *actually* had news reports, with actual news and actual events and actual things (good and bad) happening in the community.

Now? It's literally boiling down to AP articles, "Breaking News" headlines from the "main" TV outlet in the region, and local fluff pieces talking about how awesome local business owners happen to be (they aren't, by the way).

Oh, and the local newspaper was charging $4 for their weekend edition this Holiday season. NOT because the newspaper has original content, local news, or anything of that nature, but because places like WalMart, Fred Meyer (Kroger subsidiary), and others had holiday ads. They charge extra money for things that companies PAY to place into a newspaper.
 
2018-01-02 04:33:27 AM  
BUT IT'S TOTALLY OKAY!!!

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2018-01-02 05:50:37 AM  

Reasonable Human: Well, at least British made weapons are only causing havoc in Yemen.

Was interested to see the entry for East Germany in there.  Given that they are allowing countries that no longer exist, and the apparent age of some of the weaponry, I wonder how much or the Russian weapons should actually be listed as USSR.


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2018-01-02 06:01:51 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: puffy999: But this implies one of two things: SOMEONE (take a guess) is getting a shiat-ton of weapons from China, or China itself is involved in global warfare.

Yeah, I think that's the interesting part subby glossed over. The PRC, with a large Uyghur population in Xinjiang, has little love for Muslim extremists so it seems unlikely they'd want anything to do with ISIL, but someone was moving in a lot of weapons. For a country where trafficking in firearms is a capital crime, they sure do like the revenue they get from exporting them.


People who export revolutions don't want revolutions back home?!
You don't say.
 
2018-01-02 06:47:55 AM  

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/meh, just the first GIS that came up


Thats a funny way to spell NRA.
 
2018-01-02 06:59:39 AM  
The Russians were starved for cash after shooting down that airliner over Ukraine so all they could do was flood the market with their arms. It's not like they have any consumer goods to sell.
 
2018-01-02 07:24:00 AM  

puffy999: These are manufacturing nations, not distributing nations.

But this implies one of two things: SOMEONE (take a guess) is getting a shiat-ton of weapons from China, or China itself is involved in global warfare.


I remember reading when the US first started to support the Afghan fighters in the 80s most of those weapons were not of US manufacter. But I think it was pretty obvious we were involved when stingers started shooting down Russian helicopters.
 
2018-01-02 07:27:50 AM  

Pinko_Commie: Reasonable Human: Well, at least British made weapons are only causing havoc in Yemen.

Was interested to see the entry for East Germany in there.  Given that they are allowing countries that no longer exist, and the apparent age of some of the weaponry, I wonder how much or the Russian weapons should actually be listed as USSR.

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I just noticed some of those are AK's. What were the Marines doing with AK's?
 
2018-01-02 07:29:13 AM  
There is a huge bleed-over component to arms sales.

Because America supplies arms to the Iraq government, American weapons are found all over Iraq.  Because Russia supplies arms to the Syrian government, Russian weapons are found all over Syria.

It's the arms that don't come from the American and Russian governments that are interesting.  Mostly they've been coming from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Libya, Lebanon, Eastern Europe, and Turkey.

And those weapons had to be made somewhere... so where does an arms merchant get large quantities of weapons they want to pass on to forces who may be fighting Russia and / or the US from?  China.
 
2018-01-02 07:51:29 AM  
 
2018-01-02 07:56:29 AM  

Hassan Ben Sobr: 43% Chinese, 9% Russia. C'mon stubby..


and don't forget the 112 Billion arms deal Trump signed with Saudi Arabia for military hardware, including small arms.
have a nice day!
 
2018-01-02 07:58:28 AM  

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That guy is indeed firearms jesus.  Big fan of his youtube videos on obscure historic stuff.
 
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